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Special Lecture: F-22 Flight Controls 1:06:48

Special Lecture: F-22 Flight Controls

MIT OpenCourseWare · May 11, 2026
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Transcript ~13486 words · 1:06:48
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Well, guys,
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you have picked the coolest
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independent activities period class you
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could ever do with ground school. This
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is the most awesome thing possible when
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I saw the course offerings. So, kudos to
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Tina and Phil for teaching this. This is
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a good good gig.
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Uh I go by Laz. It's a fighter pilot
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thing. All fighter pilots have call
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signs.
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Um they're not like what you see in the
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movies. By the way, Top Gun is the worst
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movie for any fighter pilot to watch.
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It's terrible. Drives you crazy. No one
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is called Maverick because they're the
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most awesome thing on the face of the
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planet. Never happens that way. Uh
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you're always named for something silly.
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So, the previous discussion about uh
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crew resource management, if you're
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single seat, you still have air traffic
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control, you have other guys. Uh I am
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living proof that that's 100% true. So,
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I won't get into it too much, but
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suffice to say if you know the biblical
1:04
story of Lazarus, you know a lot about
1:06
how I got my name and I'll leave it at
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that. Normally, that's over a beer
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afterwards. So, we're here to talk about
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uh F-22 flight control stuff. I'm going
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to give you the the punchline right at
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the start. I'm here to tell you that
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everything you're learning So, who who's
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actually flown airplanes here already?
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Like sailplanes. So, a lot of guys,
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right? So, a lot of guys So, first time
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then for probably the other half of the
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class or so. Uh so, here's what I'm here
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to tell you. The same stuff that you're
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learning with respect to Cessnas and all
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the stuff with respect to the ground
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school, um there's no difference
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between this and between my beloved
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Raptor. It's the same thing. So, there's
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great relevance. And you as MIT guys
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have the ability to derive and figure
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out what makes the Raptor look the way
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that it does and we can talk a lot about
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the flight controls. It's not cosmic. We
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can go through that.
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So, with that, uh they always have the
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standard personal background slide. Um
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here's here's the gig. I'll keep it
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really simple. I am a test pilot. Uh
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which means I am a fighter pilot and I'm
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also an engineer. It means I like Beavis
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and Butt-Head greatly and I read Carl
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Sagan. It's the same thing to me. Uh so,
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as a fighter test pilot, you live in the
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world of being a fighter pilot, uh but
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you also have the ability to understand
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MATLAB and to be able to do cool neat
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MIT-ish kind of things because all of
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the stuff that you're working with as a
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test pilot are brand new things. Uh new
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weapons, new avionics, new airplanes in
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some cases. And that's not the world of
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a fighter pilot. Fighter pilots are
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exceptionally good at taking this
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airplane to combat and doing the normal
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kind of missions with it, but when
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there's something new on board, that
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requires an engineer. So, uh I have a
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deep deep connection with this
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institution. I graduated here finished
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up here last year in 2018 and then a
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whole bunch of other kind of funky stuff
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along the way.
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Uh two combat tours. Uh that was a lot
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of fun. I'll tell you flying is one of
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my great passions. Flying and getting
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shot at and missed is my second great
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passion. That's much cooler. Um and then
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when you can fly and you can use that
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airplane to actually protect people from
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bad guys, that's that's that's life
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fulfilling, right? To go get a chance to
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go do that. So, we can talk a little bit
3:04
more through that as well. Um test
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pilot, we get a chance to fly a lot of
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different stuff. So, you'll see this uh
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76 different airplanes. Uh that might
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sound weird to kind of the rest of the
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world, but in the world of flight test,
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that's pretty normal. And the reason
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that's there is it's just like like So,
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I By the way, warning, right? To the
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class. I I talk a lot in terms of
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movies, right? Game of Thrones shows or
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whatever television shows and sports
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because no matter where you come from,
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those three topics always tend to bring
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everybody all together. So, it is just
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like what you've, you know, when you've
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gone car shopping and you sit in this
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car and go, "Ah, man, I really like this
3:40
way the steering wheel feels, but I hate
3:42
the way the radio is set up." And you go
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to another car and you go, "Ah, man,
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this is great from a, you know, from the
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sunroof or whatever, but this stinks."
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Uh that same kind of the discernment
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that you have when you're shopping for
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cars, you know, that this airplane is a
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couple hundred million dollars. You
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don't want to be wrong about that. And
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so, you want your test pilots very very
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experienced in a lot of different
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airplanes. So, I've got a chance to fly
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helicopters. Spectacular. In pilot
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training, I don't know why, but we send
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our worst pilot training students to
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helicopters. It's the dumbest idea
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because helicopters are really really
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challenging to go fly. Um but we've had
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a chance to fly helicopters. Your
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discussion, Tina, earlier about right
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away, I was laughing with that cuz I've
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flown a zeppelin uh an airship. It It's
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quite spectacular. It's a big lazy boy
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couch
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uh with a big trim wheel and big engines
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that actually pivot on the outside so
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you can turn the whole ship based on
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that. Um that's pretty normal for for
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being a test pilot is getting a chance
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to fly a lot of different airplanes more
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so than just one particular airplane
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your whole life. Most of my stuff is in
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fighters.
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Um so, I've flown every frontline
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fighter with the exception of the F-35.
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Hopefully, I'll fix that soon shortly in
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a few months.
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Um but a lot of stuff. So, MIT guy,
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Harvard guy, uh did some stuff. It's
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it's been a good life. Um really at the
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end of the day, what I want to impress
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on you is uh I am 100% zero different
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from anybody in this room. I just have
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more battle scars on me just from a
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lifetime of doing this. Uh I started off
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flying Cessnas. I did that for several
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years in my life. I still do it. I um
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love it. Fly sailplanes. Still do it.
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Love it.
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Uh and all the stuff that you learn with
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this has direct applicability to the
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more advanced fighter airplanes. In
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fact, I'll tell you, this is actually
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harder to fly than the Raptor. And we'll
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talk a little bit more about that as we
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go through. All right. So, more fun and
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games. All right. So, now comes the
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class participation part. Uh my my talks
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are very interactive. I love to kind of
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hear what you guys think. So, we'll do a
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quick thought exercise. I'll try and
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keep a mental note cuz I stink at
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writing on a chalkboard.
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Um but we'll chat through this. Just so
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you can understand that there's really
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not that much difference from what
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you're learning now to go off to do
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something like that. So, why does a
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Cessna look the way that it does? And
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why does a Raptor look the way that it
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does? What were the engineers trying to
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do? And just just call them out. You
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know where we're going. Guys, just
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shoot.
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Is it related to the Raptor? Okay, so
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explain. Um you have um way more area
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that's clear. The wings are uh swept
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back and are kind of below you in the
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back so you can go. Yeah. See over
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there, right? So, you you've brought up
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two things. One is the position of the
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wings, right? So, in a Cessna,
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uh the wings are obviously
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Well, in a lot of airplanes really, not
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just Cessnas, but in a Cessna, the wings
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are directly above you. Big Hershey bar
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wing. You know, why do they put the
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wings this way in a Cessna?
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You're You're doing great so far. Keep
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going, man. I'm I'm going to answer
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that. Get get in or out of a Cirrus in
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the heavy rain and you will immediately
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see the value of that Cessna wing. Yeah.
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They did this so that my wife doesn't
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yell at me in bad weather conditions so
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that you can get inside the airplane
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without getting completely wet. The
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other part about the high wing is it's
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great for visibility. Looking down,
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right? Um where this is terrible is if
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you're turning and you have to be able
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to see through the wing because you're
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kind of doing the old, you know, looking
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over the side to see uh kind of out the
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outside. So, that's one advantage,
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right? Of where Raptor, right? It's not
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a high wing or it's kind of like a mid
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wing, if you will, but that wing is well
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after the cockpit for what reason?
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Visibility? Yeah.
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That's that's the big huge reason why.
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And then you also brought up the idea of
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the swept wings.
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All right. Uh why the swept wings
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compared to, say, straight wings?
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Um well, when they have an aerodynamic
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advantage. Okay. What's that What's
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What's that advantage? Um
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something about um
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You got a winglet or like wingtip
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vortices?
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Close.
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Close. I'll I'll I'll stop picking on
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you because you're a bold and went
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first. Go ahead.
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Yeah, Mach. So, so explain Mach.
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Uh fast Closer you get to the speed of
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sound, more compressibility is
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important. Yep. Uh aerodynamically, the
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wing really behaves
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like it's going at the speed normal to
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the leading edge.
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Yeah. So, you ever you ever see those
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old like the first jet airplanes that
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came out? Um the wings on the jet
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airplanes had wings that looked exactly
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like this.
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Um and that was a problem. I'm going to
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do something I thought I wouldn't try to
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do, but I'll try to do it. So, here's
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your swept wing, right? Here's the air
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as it comes over the wing.
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Right? And then what ends up happening
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is uh really what you care about is the
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air that's going over top of the wing
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that's normal to the chord line of the
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wing itself. You know what I mean when I
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say chord? Right? Just like this
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imaginary line. So, on a Hershey bar
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wing, all of that air hits the wing and
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it goes directly over top of that chord
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line of the wing. So, like when we
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talked about over here, the wings have
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camber.
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So, what happens to the air as it goes
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over top of any wing? Doesn't matter if
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it's a fighter wing or whatever else.
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But what what happens to the velocity of
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the air as it goes over top?
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Goes faster, right? So, if I'm already
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going fast and air hits my wing and goes
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over top of my wing and goes faster than
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the rest of the airplane, uh that's
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going to cause a problem when you get to
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very high speeds approaching Mach cuz
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what ends up happening is you'll you'll
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get a shock wave forming on that wing.
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And the moment you get a shock wave
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forming there, that's like a big brick
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wall to the to the wind and that causes
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all types of drag downstream, slows down
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the airplane, all types of things. So,
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what they found is I can sweep the wing,
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right? When I sweep the wing, some of
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that air is normal to the chord line.
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So, if this is like the fuselage over
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here and here's the wing and it comes
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back over here. Um some of that air is
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going to be that way and some of that
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air is going to actually go out and go
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uh
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go spanwise, if you will, like this. So,
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I'm trying to draw this correctly to get
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the to get the right angles, but you you
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kind of get my point. So, some of that
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air goes spanwise.
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Some of the reason why you have wing
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winglets, right? To present prevent some
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of that drag that happens at the
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winglet. But then also, what you're
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worried about is rather than the full
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component of this wind, you're only
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worried about the wind that's normal to
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the flow
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of the way the chord line is set up. So,
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that's why they sweep the wings, right?
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Okay, so what else?
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Why does a Cessna look this way? Why
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does this look like that? Go ahead.
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Uh
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yeah, go ahead. Both.
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Uh
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stealth and payload and armor. Okay, so
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stealth. Payload is an important thing.
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Let's talk about the payload for a
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second. Actually, we'll talk about
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stealth since you brought it up. Um so
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look at that plan form and what do you
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notice with regards to stealth?
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All angles. All angles, right? That
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angle, that angle, that angle. No right
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angles. Yeah, no right angles. So the
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reason is and I'll do
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my high-tech pizza, you know, aid here,
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right?
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So who's who's EE in here? Anyone EE
10:22
from MIT? Okay. So if you're a beam of
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radar energy,
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you love this, right? You love when you
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have a nice flat thing directly to
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reflect so all that radar energy you put
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at me goes right back at you, right? Now
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what happens if I take that panel and I
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go like this a little bit, right? So
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yeah, there's not so much. Now I'll
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really mess with your mind. What happens
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if I do that, right? And now you have to
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start dealing with angles and edges,
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right? Um
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Raptor is this constant fight between
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the EE guys and the aeronautical
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engineers.
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Um when you make an airplane like this
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and you make angles like this and you
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make it there's no right angles or
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whatever else like that, you're exactly
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right. It greatly reduces the stealth.
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Now this is not Wonder Woman's airplane.
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It's not like you just become invisible
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and no one can see you. Um but it's very
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very hard to see uh on radar. Um but
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there's a challenge in that because when
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you make an airplane that looks like
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this, which the EE guys tend to like,
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the aero engineer guys tend to hate
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because it makes the airplane unstable.
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Uh so we'll talk about that. Um this
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airplane very very stable, very very
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stable. Okay, what else? Couple other
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things. So why does a Raptor look this
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way?
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Why does a Cessna look this way?
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Go ahead. Uh I feel like the Cessna is
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designed to be produced with cheap
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commodity materials.
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Yep. The Raptor probably uses exotic
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metals, exotic metals. Yep.
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Titanium, whole types of stuff, right?
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So this is an airplane people buy
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commercially.
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If you had if you were Jeff Bezos, you
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would never purchase this airplane.
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Cuz it is hyper expensive. Um
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my jets were test jets, uh which means
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they were very different, almost like
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hand-built custom F-22s. Each one
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3 to 400 million dollars a piece. Uh
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scary, right? In terms of how much it
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actually costs. Uh the canopy on this
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thing probably worth more than about 10
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of these kind of all put together.
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Um the payload part, you brought up
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payload, too. So the other part about
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the stealth, if you can see here, I've
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got doors. So there's a big main weapon
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bay door, big 17-ft doors, if you will,
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and then there's doors on the side that
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come open here. Um
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Unlike a Cessna, I mean we talked about
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you can Where'd Tina go? Oh, she
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disappeared. The dropped object,
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dropping pumpkins? Uh my pumpkins are
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1,000 lb, uh come off the airplane just
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like that, uh different missiles and
12:38
different bombs or whatever. The center
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of gravity of the airplane is right
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about where my finger is. And so I have
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these weapons that are here that when I
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release them, it's suddenly like
12:47
dropping a car off the front end of your
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airplane. And so there's a huge center
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of gravity shift that happens
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just like that. And so the flight
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controls need to be able to compensate
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for something like that. Last piece I'll
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give you just for sake of time is what's
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the speed envelope, if you will, that
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this airplane kind of operates.
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What's that?
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Oh, I wish 200. Man, I wish 200. I would
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buy one right now if I could go 200 in
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this thing.
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160. Yeah, I mean on a good day, right?
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You might get you know, if you were to
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get a really really high-end general
13:22
aviation airplane, 160 knots or so
13:25
something like that. You can get more
13:26
than that, but then you start getting to
13:27
some real like Mercedes-Benz exotic
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class kind of general aviation airplanes
13:32
that are like the Cirrus
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that go beyond there. Um in general,
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you're talking somewhere between 80 and
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about 140, 150 for most of them or
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something like that. Uh this airplane,
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if believe it or not, this airplane can
13:43
actually fly as slow as the Cessna. But
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it also can fly two times the speed of
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sound.
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Um and it does that pretty easily,
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believe it or not. Um also this
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airplane, um 60° of bank starts to get
13:57
really extreme, a little bit
13:58
uncomfortable. This airplane
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fully aerobatic, doesn't care, pulls 9
14:02
Gs. You guys know what Gs are? The
14:04
accelerations of gravity. So everything,
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you know, my human head, well, MIT MIT
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heads weigh about 20 lb or so, a little
14:09
bit more than the than the norm. So at 9
14:12
Gs, everything on your body weighs nine
14:13
times as much. So that's 180 lb with
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your neck has to be able to support
14:18
that. Imagine everything on this
14:19
airplane has to be stressed such that it
14:21
can tolerate that load and more. Also
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can go negative G as well. Uh
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altitude-wise, I think the highest I've
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ever had a Cessna was about 14,000 ft
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and it was wheezing. I mean it was
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really really hard for it to get up
14:34
there. Uh this airplane goes 0 ft all
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the way up to about 60 to 65,000 ft. So
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it flies twice as high of what you would
14:42
see on your commercial airliners. What
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I'm trying to impress on you is it's a
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huge flight envelope with a very
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different solution set
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um compared to what you might have on a
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Cessna. The only other thing I would say
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with Raptor is uh this was something
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that took me a while. My first combat
14:58
mission, I really understood this.
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Uh in a Cessna, if I have a problem,
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I can land and most likely people will
15:04
come out to help me and call home and
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let everybody know I'm okay.
15:08
Uh in bad guy land,
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uh if people are coming to get me,
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they're they really are coming to get
15:12
me.
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Uh so you're in very hostile territory
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where you do not want to leave the
15:17
airplane if you can avoid it. So there's
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a tremendous amount of redundancy that's
15:22
kind of built into this airplane. Uh
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we'll talk more through that a little
15:25
bit. So anyway, um you've essentially
15:27
derived all of the challenges that a
15:30
flight control engineer would have to
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deal with. um
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I'll put this here just for sake of
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making it easy to rest.
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This airplane has what's called
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reversible flight control system. What
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does that mean?
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You guys talked about that yet? Go
15:46
ahead. It means you It's basically
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cables or when you move
15:50
Yep. say the direction of the ailerons.
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Yep. So not only when you move the
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stick. What happens if you go outside
15:54
the airplane, grab the aileron, move
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that up and down? What happens inside?
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The stick moves, right? So it's
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reversible, right? So I move the stick
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and the flight control surfaces will
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deflect or I move the flight control
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surfaces and the stick will deflect. So
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they are directly connected with pulleys
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and cables to one another. Um
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For the guys who have flown, what does
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the airplane feel like when you get to
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100, 120, 130, 140 mph? I mean you're
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really getting What what what does it
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feel like on the control surfaces?
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Yeah, lots. It gets heavy, right? It
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gets real stick kind of heavy. Same
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thing if you're slow, everything gets
16:25
kind of sloppy, if you will, and very
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cuz you are directly feeling the air
16:29
loads on the airplane as transmitted to
16:31
the stick. Um in this airplane,
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uh these flight control surfaces, this
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this tail surface back here is about the
16:38
size of a lot of fighter wings. It's
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huge. Um
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and you can imagine at 120, 130, the
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airplane's really hard to really move.
16:46
Well, what happens if you're going 1,000
16:48
mph? Um you could be Arnold
16:50
Schwarzenegger, you do not have the
16:51
strength to maneuver these controls
16:53
around. So this airplane has a very very
16:56
exotic hydraulic system and an computer
16:59
system and an electric system that
17:00
allows all that to operate. From the
17:02
hydraulics, I'm not kidding, there's
17:04
like 4,000 PSI of hydraulic fluid uh
17:08
that moves this whole thing around,
17:10
swings it back and forth.
17:12
Um from the electric standpoint, now
17:14
again, this is a reversible flight
17:16
control system, all manual. Um the
17:18
flight controls in this airplane don't
17:19
work unless the electrics are turned on
17:21
to go do it. Uh so your flight controls
17:25
are electrically
17:27
controlled, hydraulically powered but
17:29
electrically controlled, which is a
17:30
little weird when you think about it
17:33
because now all of a sudden electrical
17:35
problems in this airplane start
17:37
impacting your ability to fly the
17:39
airplane, which gets a little bit
17:41
strange. Um you guys ever hear of a
17:43
thing called a permanent magnetic
17:44
generator? Do you know what that is? A
17:46
little bit of a technical term.
17:48
Who knows? You know a lot, go ahead. Uh
17:50
is it a type of Is it a type of
17:52
generator that uses permanent magnets to
17:54
Outstanding. Yes, you have correctly
17:56
derived the definition of a permanent
17:58
magnetic generator. Now, the way it
18:00
works is um
18:03
this airplane has six permanent magnetic
18:04
generators. They are the primary source
18:06
of flight control power. All that has to
18:09
happen is the engines have to rotate.
18:11
That's it. So even if the engines are
18:13
shut down, I can just keep wind going
18:14
through the engines and they rotate.
18:16
They will rotate sufficient to generate
18:18
power from the permanent magnetic
18:19
generators. If those fail, the airplane
18:22
also has electrical generators on board.
18:24
There's two of them. There's actually
18:25
three of them on board. They can power
18:27
the flight controls as well. Worst case
18:29
scenario for a Raptor pilot, the engines
18:31
seize up, I lose my electrical power,
18:33
the only thing I have left is a battery.
18:35
And just like anything else battery, the
18:37
more you use it, the more it depletes.
18:38
So at that point, any deflection of the
18:40
flight control surfaces depletes the
18:42
electrical energy and you don't have
18:43
that much left to actually control it.
18:46
Okay, one last thing here, we'll move on
18:47
to the next slide. We'll talk a little
18:49
bit some just some definitions. Um the
18:52
wing has this thing on the front. You
18:53
know what that is what that's called?
18:55
Leading edge flaps, right? Okay,
18:57
perfect. All right. What's that called?
19:00
Ailerons. Um
19:02
now
19:03
What I What I hear I heard something
19:03
else. Flaps.
19:05
Ah, who who said that?
19:07
Ah, okay. Explain.
19:08
Uh it's a it's combination of both flap
19:10
and aileron. Um
19:12
flaps are on the outside, ailerons are
19:14
on the inside. And no, did I get that
19:17
backwards? Yep. All the way around.
19:19
Other way around, yeah. Yep. And um
19:21
depending on which you're doing of
19:22
flight you're you're in, you either have
19:24
full use of
19:25
control surfaces or part of it is
19:27
dedicated to being the flap and part of
19:28
it is dedicated to being the ailerons.
19:30
Yeah.
19:31
Outstanding. That's good. In this
19:33
airplane, this airplane has what?
19:35
Ailerons, right?
19:36
So if I want to go right and I move the
19:38
yoke right, what happens to the ailerons
19:41
here in this airplane?
19:42
Sorry, I'll put it that way, that way
19:44
you're set up. So I'm going this way. So
19:45
this aileron is doing what? Going down.
19:48
Going down, right? This aileron is doing
19:49
what? Up. Up, right? Um
19:53
So I'll cut to the chase.
19:55
These are ailerons. These are So, these
19:57
are the flaperons. Here in the inside,
19:59
these are the ailerons.
20:01
Um
20:01
in a Raptor uh those ailerons deflect
20:04
differentially. So, just like you have
20:06
in a Cessna, they can also both deflect
20:08
up. They can also both deflect down. The
20:12
flaps on the inboard are flaps and
20:14
ailerons, flaperons. So, they can
20:16
deflect up and they can deflect down.
20:19
We'll show why. That brings up some neat
20:21
stuff. Okay? Rudder, obviously, back
20:24
here.
20:25
Um in this airplane, when I push the
20:27
rudder left, the rudder deflects left. I
20:29
deflect right. Um this has two rudders.
20:32
Uh both rudders can deflect one way.
20:33
They can deflect the other way. They can
20:35
both deflect in, and there's some
20:37
reasons why you'd want to do that. And
20:39
they can both deflect out.
20:41
Uh the last piece I'll give you is uh
20:44
back here. Normally, this would be
20:45
called an elevator. But on a supersonic
20:47
airplane, we call these uh horizontal
20:49
stabilizers. Uh if you guys have read
20:51
the story of the Bell X-1, so Chuck
20:54
Yeager, when he went supersonic, we
20:56
talked a little bit earlier about
20:57
supersonic shock waves forming on the
20:59
airplane as you start going fast. Um
21:01
what Chuck Yeager discovered is that the
21:03
elevator, like in a traditional Cessna
21:06
that horizontal stabilizer does not
21:08
move. So, the elevator at the back
21:11
moves, but the horiz- but it but this
21:13
part stays fixed. That shock wave that
21:15
would form right here would actually
21:17
blank the air back to the elevator, and
21:20
they wouldn't have any pitch control.
21:22
So, when they talk about this thing
21:23
called Mach tuck, which was a scary
21:25
scary thing that happened to a lot of
21:27
World War fighter pilots when they got
21:29
into a dive
21:30
um they would start forming shock waves
21:31
on the airplane. They didn't have the
21:33
elevator authority to pull up, and so
21:35
they would actually nose dive all the
21:36
way in cuz they go faster and faster and
21:37
faster heading down. The answer was,
21:40
rather than the back end of this thing
21:42
maneuvering, the entire surface moves.
21:46
So, as a fighter pilot, especially when
21:48
you got people walking underneath the
21:49
airplane because their maintainers are
21:51
working on things, you always always
21:53
always you show them your hands because
21:54
if you tap that stick, again, the stick
21:57
is not directly connected just like it
21:58
is. The stick is connected to a
22:00
computer. The computer votes and allows
22:02
things to happen. It then commands a
22:03
4,000 hydraulic PSI system to deflect
22:06
basically this big old wing. You can
22:07
actually take a guy's head off um with
22:09
the flight control surfaces. So, you
22:10
always always show your hands whenever
22:12
you have people walking underneath the
22:13
airplane for that. So, it's got a very
22:16
very advanced flight control system on
22:18
board. We'll talk through a little bit
22:19
about what advantages that kind of gives
22:21
you.
22:22
Last piece I'll give you is the engines
22:25
at the back, um
22:27
which are a thing of beauty. I was a
22:28
propulsion guy, aeronautics engineer
22:30
kind of thing.
22:31
Um
22:32
it's almost like modern art masterpiece
22:33
to me. Um
22:35
those engines uh are have the ability to
22:37
call what's called thrust vectoring.
22:39
They'll swing up and they'll swing down.
22:42
Uh where would you want to use that? Why
22:44
does he Why do the engines have thrust
22:46
vectoring?
22:47
You've answered a lot, Meg.
22:48
You're smart though. You know what's
22:49
going on. Go ahead. Uh very low speeds.
22:52
Very low speeds. Outstanding, yep.
22:53
Where's it Where's another regime?
22:55
Think of the flight envelope of the
22:56
airplane.
22:58
What if
22:59
Yeah, very high altitude.
23:00
Very high altitude. So, so why high
23:01
altitudes?
23:04
Uh little lift from the wings or the
23:05
wings could be Yep. Yeah, yeah. Density
23:09
goes way down as you go up in altitude.
23:11
So, if I deflect this I mean, I have to
23:12
get more deflection to move that air to
23:15
be able to move the airplane if I'm
23:16
relying just on the aero surfaces alone.
23:19
The way I get around that is I put two
23:21
35,000 thrust pound engines, if you
23:24
will, uh on board the airplane. And just
23:26
like a fire hose, if I grab a fire hose
23:27
and I move it, you would feel that
23:29
torque on your body. The same thing here
23:31
uh with with the thrust vectoring on the
23:33
back. So, with just the movement of my
23:36
hand, I can deflect 70,000 lbs of thrust
23:38
um way at the back end of the airplane.
23:40
So, we talked about center of gravity
23:42
being right about here. So, that moment
23:45
arm of that thrust force is all the way
23:47
back here, and I can deflect that up.
23:48
And at very very low speeds where the
23:51
flight control surfaces might not be
23:52
doing well I can still move the airplane
23:55
just by using the the thrust alone. At
23:58
high altitude where I don't have a lot
23:59
of density, same thing. I can maneuver
24:01
the airplane just by using the thrust
24:03
alone. So, where that helps you, cuz
24:06
again, this is a dog fighter.
24:07
Um
24:08
here's what happens, and you'll you'll
24:09
see this from time to time. So, I'll do
24:10
this with the side look. When I get to
24:13
high angle of attack, so the wind is
24:14
coming like this and it's hitting the
24:16
bottom surface of the airplane um I
24:19
don't have the ability to really
24:21
maneuver a lot because sometimes some
24:23
aero surfaces are blanked by just the
24:25
the size of that fuselage coming right
24:27
out into the wing. So, I I cheat, if you
24:29
will, by using the engines to get that
24:31
final little pitch rate. We'll see later
24:33
on in the Raptor demo video where the
24:35
airplane will go It's called a high
24:37
alpha loop, high angle of attack loop.
24:39
It'll go vertical
24:41
um and rather than doing like a loop
24:42
where you see it prescribe this whole
24:44
path over here, the airplane will go
24:46
vertical. I'll engage the thrust
24:48
vectoring, and it'll pivot. So, the
24:49
velocity vector is still heading
24:51
straight up, so the airplane is still
24:52
moving up, but it kind of does this
24:54
gymnastics thing where I've now turned
24:57
the airplane using thrust vectoring even
24:58
though the airplane is still heading
24:59
straight up. It's wacky.
25:02
It's totally cool. All right.
25:06
All right, let's talk through a couple
25:08
other things.
25:09
Okay, so that's the flight controls. How
25:11
are we doing timeline? Okay, we're
25:12
looking pretty good.
25:13
Okay.
25:14
Okay.
25:15
Anyone recognize the cockpit on uh your
25:18
left?
25:21
F-15. F-15? Yeah, outstanding. Good.
25:23
This is my very first airplane. I didn't
25:25
know any better, right? I sat down and
25:27
said, "Wow, what a cool cockpit. Look at
25:29
all these cool stuff, buttons everywhere
25:30
and switches all over the place." Um
25:33
this is an airplane of the '70s. Uh
25:35
designed when uh Richard Nixon, Jimmy
25:38
Carter, that kind of era, if you will.
25:40
Uh
25:41
very very first intro to solid-state
25:44
electronics. Really wasn't fully fleshed
25:46
out at this stage. Um this airplane had
25:48
a hydromechanical system, which meant
25:50
that just like in this airplane where
25:51
there were cables and pulleys, um the
25:53
similar kind of flight control system in
25:55
it there. Um this picture is the
25:58
Raptor's cockpit on the inside. Some
26:00
pretty dramatic differences between the
26:02
two. So, again, just call them out. What
26:04
What What do you see?
26:06
Glass cockpit. Glass cockpit. Where does
26:08
that help you?
26:11
Glass cockpit.
26:14
Go ahead. You're doing well. It's
26:15
Multi-display. What's up? You can be
26:17
multi-display. You can change it to
26:19
Oh, yeah. It's great. You can see these
26:21
new digital cockpit uh Mercedes-Benzes
26:23
and BMWs or whatever where like in the
26:25
old days you just had, you know, speed
26:26
and tach, if you will. Now, you can
26:28
configure it however you want. Um now,
26:30
these become the moment you start
26:32
putting that in there No, got it. Yeah,
26:35
the moment you start doing stuff like
26:36
that, um you start creating a software
26:39
airplane, which gives you a lot of
26:40
flexibility and a danger, right? We'll
26:43
talk about that one a little bit later
26:44
on. What else do you see?
26:48
Flight controls-wise, since we're
26:49
talking mainly about flight controls
26:50
today.
26:52
Side stick. Side stick. Yeah. So
26:55
right there
26:58
is the control stick in an F-15. It sits
27:01
directly between your knees.
27:03
Um in a Raptor
27:05
that is your control stick. It's on the
27:07
side.
27:08
Why would you ever want to put something
27:10
like that on the side? Go ahead.
27:11
I can't use I can't move my head.
27:14
That's part of it. That helps. And
27:15
there's actually you can't see it here.
27:17
It's partly there, but kind of this
27:18
little section here It's a fold-out
27:19
armrest. So, your wrist is on the stick.
27:22
Your your elbow is, if you will, it's
27:25
resting on an armrest. So, it gives you
27:26
a lot of leverage from there. Um that's
27:28
one reason. What's couple other reasons
27:30
why you'd want to go side stick versus
27:31
center stick? Your legs get in the way
27:33
on the center stick.
27:33
Legs get in the way. That's a big deal.
27:36
Um because in this airplane
27:38
you actually got got pretty good after a
27:40
while flying it where if you really need
27:41
to maneuver the stick, you'd kind of do
27:42
the leg up and kind of move over that
27:44
way to get everything out of the way. Um
27:46
the other side about it, too, it might
27:47
not be quite so obvious, but you see how
27:49
that stick That's about where your eye
27:51
height would be. Um you see how that
27:53
stick kind of gets in the way of seeing
27:54
some of the instruments?
27:56
So, it it's just sitting right there,
27:57
right? In a side stick, um that's
27:59
completely off to the side, and all of
28:01
this real estate is completely open.
28:04
Um the other thing I'll give you again,
28:05
just for sake of time,
28:06
uh it's it's a little bit of a thought
28:09
change.
28:10
Um when you have a center stick
28:14
it's like when you're driving a car
28:16
and when you're at parking, you know,
28:19
you're trying to park your car, you want
28:20
to be able to maneuver that wheel around
28:22
a lot. Uh but when you're at highway
28:25
speeds, if you were to take the wheel
28:26
and maneuver it that much again, you're
28:28
going to roll the car. Um so in a center
28:32
stick you move the stick around to be
28:36
able to deflect the flight control
28:37
surfaces. There's a physical
28:38
displacement of the stick to make that
28:40
happen. On a side stick, that stick,
28:43
initially when they first put it in, um
28:45
did not move at all. So, imagine if you
28:49
were in your car when you wanted to
28:50
steer, and rather than the wheel
28:52
actually moving, you just put pressure
28:54
on the wheel itself, and that was enough
28:55
to transmit to the computer in the car
28:57
to turn the wheels.
28:59
Uh that was a problem initially,
29:02
uh which we can talk about after the
29:03
presentation. That's a little bit of a
29:04
sidebar discussion. This is a human
29:06
factors thing. It's a side stick.
29:09
Initially, it didn't move. Eventually,
29:10
they decided I'll put in some
29:12
deflection, so I can go a half inch
29:13
left, a half inch right, about a quarter
29:16
inch forward because normally uh you
29:19
know, I go about a half inch back
29:20
because normally I really want to get
29:21
the nose going this way. Um if I had
29:23
that much deflection forward, I don't
29:24
want to fly the airplane this way. So,
29:26
you have the ability to do that. Um but
29:28
it gives you a little bit of the best of
29:29
both worlds. There's some deflection to
29:31
give you feedback that you've input
29:33
something on the stick, but not so much
29:35
deflection that it kind of gets in the
29:36
way of everything else you're trying to
29:38
do. So, there's limited real estate in a
29:39
fighter cockpit.
29:41
Uh the last piece I'll give you, and
29:42
it's a little bit hard to see here, is
29:44
um Um, all those buttons there on the
29:47
stick,
29:48
uh, you know,
29:49
what you have the ability to do, so it's
29:51
it's exactly like modern cars car
29:54
steering wheels right now. You can
29:55
control volume, radio, everything else
29:57
like that. You can do it from the
29:58
steering wheel. Same thing in a fighter.
30:00
It's called hands-on throttle and stick,
30:02
HOTAS, and it allows you to control
30:04
everything that you would want to do on
30:05
the airplane with never having to leave
30:08
uh, your your hands from the throttle
30:10
and the stick. Uh, the other piece I'll
30:11
give you is that in a Raptor, so in a
30:13
fighter like this this is your stick,
30:15
this is your throttle. In a Raptor,
30:18
because the flight control modes can
30:19
change so much, this is your right
30:21
inceptor and this is your left inceptor.
30:25
It's all considered part of the flight
30:26
control system.
30:28
All right, let's keep going.
30:31
So,
30:32
um,
30:32
just like on your car where if you want
30:34
to go to XM radio, you go to media
30:37
source or whatever and go XM satellite
30:40
radio. Um, you have buttons because it's
30:41
a software driven jet just like we saw
30:44
before and I can pull up a flight
30:45
control display uh, that shows me the
30:47
position of all my flight control
30:49
surfaces. Again,
30:51
um, the pilot is way forward on the
30:53
front end of this airplane. As I deflect
30:55
things, sometimes I can't actually see
30:57
them.
30:58
And so initially this was a flight test
30:59
display. So but I don't have to do the
31:01
old poltergeist thing and try to rotate
31:03
all the way around to be able to see to
31:04
the back end of the airplane to see if
31:06
the elevator's moving.
31:07
Uh, I basically instrument everything
31:09
and I can see it here. Now, some of the
31:11
human factor stuff that's kind of cool
31:13
with how they did this,
31:15
so this right here,
31:17
so again, this tells you at the top uh,
31:19
rudder deflection surfaces, ailerons,
31:22
where the horizontal stabilizers are at,
31:24
how the engines are doing. This is a
31:25
little weird. I don't I don't really
31:27
like how they did this one, but this is
31:28
the leading edge flaps, LE flaps or
31:30
leading edge flaps, so it just shows you
31:31
how far they're deflected, dug in, dug
31:33
down. Um, on the lower left-hand corner
31:36
it shows you center of gravity.
31:38
So there's limits.
31:40
Uh, just like what you you know, what
31:41
you would normally do on flight planning
31:42
for your Cessna. Hey, I can only put
31:44
this much fuel with this much passengers
31:45
and I got to be within this limit for
31:47
takeoff for landing and everything else.
31:48
Uh, the airplane tells you that. Now
31:50
what's cool about some of the things
31:51
they've done in Raptor is that if it's
31:53
out of limits, again, it doesn't expect
31:55
you to get out the piece of paper with
31:56
the whiz wheel and the E6B. It just
31:58
changes color and it goes red and it
32:00
gives you a warning, right? And it says,
32:02
"Hey idiot, um, you are beyond the aft
32:05
center of gravity. Um, no gauge tells
32:07
you it's just having a hard time seeing
32:09
where all the fuel is and everything
32:10
else. That's a different story. But it
32:11
tells you where what percentage of mean
32:14
aerodynamic cord that you're sitting at
32:16
um, and it's able to adjust stuff
32:17
around. So,
32:19
I'll give that to you because what this
32:20
allows is uh, oh by the way, the last
32:22
part here is flight control. So in other
32:23
words, this tells you where you've moved
32:25
your stick and it tells you trim. So you
32:27
know where the trim is set and also
32:29
tells you where the stick is set. So you
32:30
know your inputs that kind of go through
32:32
there. When you have a software driven
32:34
machine, you can customize things and
32:37
make it very simple.
32:38
Uh, you guys have seen that terrible
32:40
terrible awful movie Top Gun, right?
32:42
It's just awful, right? So that scene
32:44
where Maverick loses his engines and
32:47
they go through this engine one is out,
32:48
engine two is out and they go on this
32:50
flat spin to sea, which is a bunch of
32:52
BS. When you're in a spin, you don't
32:54
translate over the ground, you fall
32:56
straight down. So, this whole flying out
32:58
to sea thing is ridiculous. Doesn't
32:59
happen that way. Um,
33:02
in if you don't have a software driven
33:04
airplane when you lose engines like
33:05
that, then you've got to go through this
33:06
whole It's like in a for instance in the
33:08
Cessna, if you lose a motor, lose the
33:10
motor,
33:11
uh, what do you got to do, right?
33:12
Establish your glide, get everything set
33:13
up, check to see am I left, right, or
33:15
both on the fuel source, what's my
33:17
whatever, blah blah blah and everything
33:18
else. Um, in the Raptor, it's the most
33:20
awesome thing possible. You literally do
33:22
nothing.
33:23
You sit there and the computer goes,
33:25
"Oh, you've lost a motor. I've noticed
33:27
that you have a problem. Let me see if I
33:28
can help you." And it will restart the
33:30
motor for you if it can, right? If it if
33:32
it can't restart the motor, chances are
33:33
it ain't going to restart and you can
33:34
just leave it shut down if you will. Um,
33:37
it allows some neat human factor designs
33:39
because in this airplane in the Raptor,
33:42
believe it or not, when you're flying
33:43
the Raptor, you're not
33:45
thinking about flying the Raptor. You're
33:46
thinking about employing the Raptor. So
33:49
you're trying to find where all of your
33:50
wingmates are, where the bad guys are,
33:52
etc. etc. Flying is secondary.
33:56
Whereas in this plane, flying is
33:58
everything.
33:59
Um, so they tried to as much as possible
34:01
alleviate the pilot from as much burden
34:03
of responsibility of thinking about
34:05
flying the airplane by doing kind of
34:06
neat little tricks like that.
34:08
Uh, the other thing I'll give you too
34:09
about the flight controls is again, we
34:10
talked about how ailerons can go up,
34:13
ailerons can come down. Flapperons go
34:15
up, they go down. Rudders come out, go
34:17
down. On takeoff mode,
34:19
I'll show you something kind of cool.
34:21
So,
34:22
here's the nose look on here. On takeoff
34:25
mode without any input from the pilot,
34:27
so there's no flap switch in the
34:29
cockpit, there's no leading edge There's
34:30
nothing. There's nothing like that. Um,
34:32
it just knows based on the fact that
34:34
you've got the gear handle down and that
34:36
you're on the ground and it senses the
34:38
weight on wheels, it thinks this guy
34:39
wants to take off. So, the rudders will
34:42
both deflect inward. Why would you do
34:44
that?
34:46
Go on. Is it a good time to
34:48
um,
34:49
sort of rev up to the um, thrust level
34:52
that would allow takeoff so that you use
34:54
a shorter runway? So, um,
34:56
not quite. Um,
34:58
there is a tie between the flight
34:59
controls though. So in other words, if I
35:00
take the rudders and I tow them both in,
35:03
so both rudders are deflected in,
35:05
what does that do from an aerodynamic
35:07
standpoint?
35:08
Which way is the nose going to go if
35:10
these rudders are deflected in?
35:12
Up, right? So it makes it easier to
35:15
rotate the airplane on takeoff because
35:17
the rudders are deflecting in. Both of
35:19
them go in, right? Uh, the other part
35:21
about it too is,
35:23
so we talked about this. You You guys
35:24
ever see like a competition aerobatic
35:26
like one of those extra 300 kind of
35:28
airplanes? See how the aileron runs the
35:30
entire length of the whole wing? So that
35:32
the pilot all they got to do is just tap
35:34
the wing and the airplane is going to do
35:35
corkscrews and spirals. On a Raptor,
35:38
that's part of the reason why the
35:39
aileron and the flapperon can move
35:40
together as one surface. And so the
35:43
leading edge flaps will dig in, the
35:45
trailing aileron and the trailing edge
35:48
flap, that will dig in as well. So, on
35:51
takeoff
35:52
with no input from the pilot,
35:55
whereas the wing normally would look
35:57
sort of like this with a little bit of
35:58
camber on it, on takeoff, the wing looks
36:01
like this.
36:04
It's kind of cool like when you look at
36:05
it from the side.
36:06
So if you're looking at it from
36:08
directly side on, that leading edge flap
36:10
comes down, these come down, that puts
36:12
in a whole bunch of camber on the wing
36:15
and it generates a lot of lift. So and
36:18
again, that's completely independent of
36:19
the pilot. The pilot has done nothing
36:21
other than just tell it I'm on the
36:22
ground because the gear handle is down.
36:25
Last Last, what's it What would be What
36:27
would be a typical rotation speed? Yeah,
36:30
so that's a good question. What do you
36:31
guys think?
36:33
So I start on the runway. By the way, I
36:34
need 8,000 ft of runway. This whole
36:36
2,500 ft is not for a Raptor,
36:38
unfortunately.
36:39
Um, 8,000 ft of runway, but by the time
36:41
I actually get ready to pull back on
36:42
that stick to rotate, um, how fast do
36:45
you think it's going?
36:50
I wish.
36:52
Well, of course, 150 is a usual usually
36:55
so about takeoff weights. By the way,
36:57
this airplane is about 34, 35 tons on
37:01
takeoff compared to like, you know,
37:03
2,500 lbs or whatever.
37:05
Um, so it's a very heavy airplane. Uh,
37:08
it's got to get a lot of speed to be
37:09
able to get that rotation. That's about
37:10
150, 160 knots uh, on takeoff, which is
37:14
like faster than like the never exceed
37:15
speed of the Cessna
37:17
uh, as it goes.
37:18
Um, but yeah, so the flight controls are
37:20
are there to help you. Um, the other
37:21
thing I'll show you too is uh, there is
37:23
so sailplane guys. Where are my
37:25
sailplane guys? Anybody fly sailplanes?
37:27
So, on the left
37:29
in a sailplane cockpit, you typically
37:30
have a lever for the speed brakes,
37:32
spoilers, right? So these big surfaces
37:34
that pop up on the wing to slow the
37:36
airplane down, adjust glide slopes and
37:38
those sorts of things.
37:39
Um, we talked a little bit earlier about
37:41
how the electrical engineer guys want
37:42
this thing to be completely stealthy and
37:44
whatever else. The last thing you want
37:46
to do, based on the discussion we just
37:47
had, is I don't want to have a big board
37:50
stick up in the middle of this airplane
37:51
because that's going to make my radar
37:52
reflection go very very large. So they
37:54
did something kind of remarkable. They
37:56
used the flight control surfaces
37:58
themselves as the speed brakes.
38:01
So if I need to slow the airplane down,
38:03
I hit a little switch on the throttle
38:05
and immediately what happens is
38:07
uh, the leading edge flaps will come
38:08
down a bit, the ailerons will both go
38:11
up.
38:12
Um, the rudders will go out, so they'll
38:15
both tow out. Um, and it's it's using
38:17
that to help slow the airplane kind of
38:19
down. It's actually quite effective
38:21
uh, which is pretty cool.
38:24
All right, couple other things we'll go
38:25
through.
38:27
Landing mode.
38:29
Pilot's done nothing. Touchdown.
38:31
Throttles are back.
38:33
Gear handle's down.
38:34
And all of this stuff happens here. Let
38:36
me get this zoomed in here.
38:38
So, that's the aileron. It's up. Holy
38:41
crap, the other one's up, too.
38:43
Um, the flapperon goes up on either
38:45
side. Um, the rudders, you can see how
38:47
they're both kind of kind of towing in
38:49
there a little bit. Um, the reason it's
38:51
doing that is it's trying to transfer
38:53
all of that weight from the wings and
38:55
put it into the gear. So it's trying to
38:57
kill all of the lift on the wings and
38:59
transfer that to the landing gear so
39:00
that you have the maximum traction on
39:03
the wheels as you hit the brakes as you
39:04
slow down.
39:07
Also on
39:09
uh, refueling,
39:12
so when you go air refueling, there's a
39:13
little switch
39:15
uh, that you open in the jet, that opens
39:17
up this door, that tells the jet that
39:19
I'm getting ready to refuel while I'm
39:20
airborne. When it does that, it says,
39:22
"This guy isn't trying to dog fight the
39:24
airplane anymore. They're trying to get
39:25
gas, so therefore I don't need all the
39:27
full roll capability and everything else
39:29
and really what I really want is an
39:31
airplane that's really responsive with
39:32
its lift." And so again, no input from
39:36
the pilot, but the leading edge flaps
39:38
will deploy down, the trailing edge
39:40
flaps and the ailerons will also deploy
39:41
down. Again, they're trying to create
39:43
camber on that wing. This is all digital
39:45
flight controls. No input from the pilot
39:47
whatsoever. What would a typical
39:49
airspeed be when doing this air
39:51
refueling? Uh this is about Oops, I'm
39:53
sorry. Let me go back one here.
39:56
This is about uh about 300 300 knots or
39:59
so something like that. Um you got to be
40:01
able to fly So, for a Raptor, that's
40:03
kind of slow. Um for the tanker
40:05
airplane, that's somewhat fast. Um so,
40:07
you're trying to find that marriage
40:08
where both airplanes have good flying
40:10
qualities so that one's not about to
40:12
stall and the other one's in full power
40:14
trying to catch up to them.
40:16
By the way, the most unnatural act I've
40:18
ever done as a fighter pilot is to
40:20
connect up my airplane to another
40:21
airplane. I just never got used to it. I
40:23
can do it just fine, but the whole
40:25
notion of this big boom connecting my
40:27
airplane to a big airliner was just
40:29
really strange and weird to me. Never
40:31
got used to it.
40:33
Okay, some of the limiters. So,
40:36
in an F-15 cuz we talked to that a
40:38
little bit earlier. F-15 can you can get
40:40
up to 500 600 miles an hour. You can
40:42
take both hands on the stick. You can
40:44
pull that stick all the way back and you
40:46
will rip the wings off the airplane. And
40:48
you will turn it into a big ball of
40:49
metal cascading down to the ground
40:51
because you have over-G'd the airplane.
40:54
Um again, that awful terrible movie Top
40:57
Gun in which Tom Cruise departs the
40:58
airplane and gets into a spin. Uh again,
41:01
you've exceeded some capability of the
41:03
airplane and the airplane departs
41:04
controlled flight and gets into some
41:06
type of uncontrolled situation. On a
41:08
Raptor, there used to be in the pilot
41:10
operating manual a little blurb that
41:12
said, quote, "You can maneuver this
41:14
airplane with quote reckless abandon um
41:18
and you will not over-G the airplane.
41:20
You will not depart the airplane from
41:21
controlled flight." They did a
41:23
spectacular
41:25
job uh allowing this airplane to get
41:27
right to the edge of performance but not
41:29
going over the top. So, one of the neat
41:33
things that they did,
41:35
airplanes in a left-hand turn. Look at
41:36
that aileron. It's up.
41:39
Look at that aileron. It's up.
41:42
What the crap is going on there?
41:45
And if you know this one, you really do
41:46
get the model.
41:49
Cuz I didn't know this for a long time.
41:53
So, again, just for sake of time cuz I
41:54
know we got guys coming in afterwards,
41:56
center of gravity
41:58
of the airplane sits right here.
42:00
Um in your engineering classes, you
42:01
always talk about forces acting on the
42:04
center of gravity and you kind of take
42:05
this whole airplane and you model it
42:06
down to a point mass. And you say that's
42:08
what's that's you know, for for sake of
42:10
all the the you know, sum of forces
42:12
analysis. Well, in real life, uh this
42:14
airplane's about 43 ft wide. Um yeah,
42:18
you can sum the forces through there,
42:20
but there's forces acting all over this
42:21
airplane at different spots. Think about
42:24
here on the wingtip. Um I put G on the
42:26
airplane and this wingtip, it's almost
42:29
like the wings want to bend up right as
42:31
I'm coming down. So, you put a lot of
42:33
stress out on the wingtips. So, their
42:35
answer, quite ingeniously, was to
42:38
deflect the ailerons down when you're at
42:40
high maneuvering. The way you know
42:41
you're at high maneuvering is you can
42:42
kind of see these little wispies forming
42:44
off the wingtips. So, you are creating
42:47
low pressure. That's another one, too.
42:48
You can see the clouds forming on the
42:49
front edge of the wing. Low pressure um
42:52
causes that air to condense and so you
42:53
make clouds. So, you know the airplane's
42:55
really maneuvering up. And in answer to
42:57
reduce stress at the wingtips, was to
43:00
deflect the ailerons up. What happens to
43:02
the lift out at the wingtips with the
43:03
ailerons up?
43:06
Goes down, right? So, it helps to kind
43:08
of
43:08
push those wings back down again. So,
43:10
you're not trying to overstress the
43:11
airplane. Um there are limiters uh like
43:14
this all over the airplane such that you
43:16
won't over-G the airplane. You can't um
43:18
you know, literally, you can do anything
43:19
you want to this airplane. That's what
43:20
I'm telling you. It's easier to fly a
43:22
Raptor than it is to fly a Cessna
43:25
because you really have to pay attention
43:26
to what you're doing in a Cessna. In a
43:27
Raptor, I could put my kid in there and
43:29
he can do this all day at whatever speed
43:30
and nothing bad will happen to the
43:32
airplane. It's really quite spectacular
43:34
how they did that.
43:36
Uh the other part I'll give you here is
43:38
some of the command systems. So, if I'm
43:39
in a dogfight and I'm trying to shoot
43:41
the other guy, I'm going against a
43:43
maneuvering target. And so, the flight
43:46
controls transfer over to what's called
43:48
a G command system. So, if I'm
43:51
maneuvering at 4 Gs and I let go of the
43:53
stick, the airplane will stay at 4 Gs.
43:55
And if I see that the target's
43:56
maneuvering, I need to go to 6 Gs or 7
43:58
Gs, I'll put that in and the airplane
43:59
will keep that. So, in other words,
44:01
again, it's a vote, right? I'm not
44:03
physically connected to anything. I talk
44:04
to the computer and I say I want 6 Gs
44:07
and the airplane does all types of black
44:08
magic and sorcery behind me. And lo and
44:11
behold, the airplane gets to 6 to 7 Gs.
44:13
Um that really matters when you're in a
44:15
high maneuvering kind of situation. So,
44:16
it goes G command. Um when you're
44:19
slower, i.e., on landing, and I want to
44:22
put that flight path marker right on
44:25
that edge of the runway cuz that's where
44:26
I want to touch down right at the
44:27
1,000-ft markers, uh
44:30
then in that scenario, I'm not really
44:31
cared so much about G command. I care
44:34
about pitch rate. And so, it transitions
44:36
over to a pitch rate command. And if I
44:38
put no input on the stick, it says zero
44:40
pitch rate. Again, black magic and
44:42
sorcery will happen behind me. The
44:44
flight controls will do whatever they
44:45
need to do to make sure that my pitch
44:47
rate stays at zero. So, it transitions
44:49
from one type of flight control system
44:50
to the other. No pilot input whatsoever.
44:52
It's just based off of flight flight
44:54
command system.
44:57
All right. So, let's talk through a
44:58
couple of the implications of that and
44:59
then we'll go to questions at the end.
45:01
Um
45:03
Can you do the flight control video
45:04
Raptor at the top? It's about a minute.
45:07
And then
45:08
bring it up to full screen and hit
45:09
pause.
45:27
Thank you.
45:28
Okay, this one is uh full screen and
45:31
pause. Okay. And can you go back to the
45:32
beginning on it real quick?
45:36
Okay.
45:37
So, video in cockpit facing display
45:40
screens is a big no-no uh because you
45:42
could see stuff. So, we won't even
45:43
bother with that. Uh but what they did,
45:45
this is the Raptor flight demonstration
45:47
team. This is out of Langley Air Force
45:49
Base, Virginia. They mounted a camera in
45:50
the cockpit kind of facing aft. What I
45:52
love about this is again, you can see
45:55
real quick kind of what's going on with
45:56
the airplane. So, again, the leading
45:58
edge slats, there's no input from the
46:01
pilot other than just maneuvering.
46:02
They'll deploy wherever they need to.
46:04
You'll see the horizontal stabilators
46:06
and if you're close, you can actually
46:07
see what the ailerons are doing and what
46:08
the flaperons are doing. Um a neat trick
46:11
and we'll see this as they go into this
46:12
high-G demo.
46:15
Um you guys know about Have you This
46:17
gets a little bit advanced, but a thing
46:18
called static margin,
46:20
uh which is a stability thing about this
46:22
airplane. Again, this airplane in its
46:24
bare airframe configuration, no
46:26
hydraulics, no computers, nothing on
46:28
board the airplane, totally unstable. Um
46:31
what keeps it stable is the computer
46:32
itself. Um what you'll see is you'll see
46:35
this maneuver where he'll go into a G
46:36
turn and you'll see all those clouds
46:38
forming on the back end of the airplane.
46:39
Pay attention to what the leading edge
46:41
flaps are doing. They're digging in. The
46:43
horizontal stabilators, um you'll see
46:46
them initially move to get the turn
46:47
going, but then once established in the
46:49
turn, um the way it's controlling things
46:52
is it's moving around the uh aerodynamic
46:54
center and the the center of gravity.
46:57
It's doing that by dorking around a bit
46:59
with the lift on the wing and it's doing
47:00
that by deflecting the leading edge
47:01
flaps. So, that flight control surface
47:03
display I showed you earlier, the
47:04
horizontal stabilators will be
47:06
completely streamlined. And all of the
47:08
maneuvering is coming from the wing
47:09
itself, which is pretty amazing.
47:12
The next video? No, no, go go to flight
47:14
controls. We'll watch that.
47:15
I'll go back. Okay. Yep. And then we'll
47:16
just kind of watch as it goes through.
47:18
This time without the funky club music,
47:20
I guess hopefully.
47:45
Incidentally, watch flight controls in
47:47
the back.
47:49
Oh man, you need You need somebody
47:50
better here.
47:51
I know, totally.
47:58
So, at that speed again, it's a G
47:59
command system. Pilot is commanding a
48:01
certain G rate and minor deflections are
48:04
happening all the way here back along
48:05
the back edge of the airplane. Pilot has
48:07
no input on that. The system is doing
48:09
everything possible to command that G
48:11
that the pilot has asked for.
48:15
You'll see one other maneuver here.
48:16
Pause for a second.
48:19
So, what this maneuver is is and again,
48:22
right, slow speed, um airplane's going
48:25
straight up and what they're trying to
48:27
do is basically pitch forward completely
48:29
um and get the airplane So, it's almost
48:31
like you're flying an L. Like you're
48:32
going straight up and then you want to
48:33
pitch forward and then accelerate out
48:35
horizontally that way. Um the way it
48:37
gets that is through that that thrust
48:39
vector and that happens. But as that
48:40
maneuver happens, again, all the pilot
48:42
is doing is just doing a direct push
48:43
forward on the stick. Watch what happens
48:46
to all the flight controls in the back
48:47
of the airplane to keep that airplane
48:49
going exactly where the air pilot wants
48:50
it to. Play.
48:54
So, you'll see huge deflections out of
48:56
that horizontal stabilator. It's kind of
48:58
neat. You can keep playing.
49:14
So, what you're seeing there is um from
49:15
the outside of the airplane, we'll see
49:16
this more on the demo, is um the
49:19
airplane is essentially pirouetting in
49:21
the sky. So, it's falling straight down,
49:23
but it's very controllable. It's flying
49:24
at speeds about 60 to 65 mph, um but
49:28
very very controllable. And you'll see
49:29
every bit of flight control surface on
49:31
the back end of this airplane deflecting
49:33
to do what it needs to do. So, don't
49:34
think of it in terms of aileron,
49:36
elevator. It's a little bit fluid when
49:38
it comes to a Raptor. It's stuff stuff
49:41
happens back there.
49:42
Touch and go video? Okay, so this shows
49:44
a little bit of Yeah, you can go ahead
49:45
and play that.
49:51
And hit pause for a second. We'll just
49:52
do the setup.
49:55
Okay. So very quick, the setup for this
49:57
video
49:58
this is the downside of a digital flight
50:00
control system
50:01
cuz on this airplane again, it's it's
50:04
pure cables, pulleys, right? It's ratios
50:06
and gears and stuff like that, right?
50:09
This airplane, it's software code. It's
50:12
zeros and ones.
50:13
And you better get it right. And
50:15
everything is interconnected. We talked
50:17
about how moving the gear handle tells
50:19
the flight control system something
50:20
different. If I open the air refueling
50:22
door, it tells the flight control
50:23
something different. In this case, the
50:26
power setting of the airplane
50:28
tells the airplane something different.
50:32
This guy, one of my good friends, test
50:34
pilot, outstanding guy, so don't think
50:35
of this as he's a bad pilot. He's not.
50:37
He's awesome. But the jet believed
50:40
something that wasn't really true
50:42
because there was an error in how the
50:44
software was coded. And you'll see the
50:46
first approach he'll do an approach
50:48
he'll take off again at what's called
50:50
military power, so they're not using
50:51
afterburner.
50:52
And the airplane behaves just fine.
50:55
The next time around he goes around
50:57
using afterburner power, so you'll see
50:58
fire come out of the back end of the
51:00
airplane. And that changes something in
51:02
the flight system for the engines which
51:04
tells the flight control computer a
51:07
different condition. And what ended up
51:08
happening is that the gains, if you
51:11
will, of the stick were completely off.
51:13
So again, this would be like if you were
51:15
on the highway speed and that same wheel
51:17
deflection you would use to park your
51:19
car in your garage, now that little
51:20
deflection of your wheel makes that same
51:22
turn of the tires up front. So you get
51:25
into what's called a pilot induced
51:27
oscillation PIO, which basically says
51:30
you're out of phase with the airplane.
51:31
If I'm driving my car and I turn the
51:32
steering wheel right, the car's going
51:34
left. As it's going left, I'm trying to
51:36
correct it I go right. Now the thing
51:37
goes right. And so you get out of phase
51:39
with the airplane. And you'll see what
51:40
happens. Go ahead and play.
51:42
By the way, you see all the flight
51:43
control surfaces deflecting in the back?
51:45
This is now in a pitch rate system, so
51:46
he's just trying to land the airplane.
51:48
The back of the airplane does whatever
51:50
it needs to do to keep that flight path
51:51
marker exactly where it needs to go.
51:57
And again, all the flight control
51:58
surfaces deflected military power cuz
52:00
the engines are are black, if you will,
52:02
on this one. On the next time around,
52:04
you'll see him maneuver with
52:06
afterburner. And you'll see him get into
52:08
this pitch induced oscillation.
52:18
That's the chase airplane, by the way.
52:19
It's an F-16 that follows him around.
52:29
So same thing getting set up to land.
52:30
The camera goes out of focus here for a
52:32
second, comes back in.
52:34
Again, just notice everything that's
52:35
happening on the back end of this
52:36
airplane to keep that pitch rate where
52:38
the pilot has commanded it to.
52:45
Two things will happen here. He selects
52:46
afterburner and he raises the gear. That
52:48
changes the flight control laws. And the
52:50
gains were not set correctly.
52:53
There's the afterburner. And now you see
52:56
where he's out of phase with the
52:57
airplane.
52:58
And he's doing everything to keep the
52:59
airplane from hitting the ground. And
53:01
can't can't avoid it.
53:04
He's okay.
53:07
But the airplane was fairly well scraped
53:09
up, you can imagine.
53:10
So it's it's just a danger, right? The
53:12
digital flight controls allow a lot of
53:14
flexibility and creativity.
53:16
There used to be a term it's only
53:17
software, you know, we can figure it
53:19
out. Not true when you're dealing with
53:22
you know, vehicles like this where small
53:25
changes in software code can have
53:26
dramatic implications on the ability of
53:28
the airplane. So takes
53:30
amazing amount of uh
53:32
demo? Yep, you can go ahead and do
53:33
Raptor demo. And with that we can go
53:34
questions cuz I'm a little bit over. Uh
53:37
No, it's fine. Okay.
53:40
So we we can play this full speed or
53:41
full full screen, if you will.
53:47
You want to take questions while it's
53:48
running?
53:48
Yeah. Yeah, so this is from another good
53:49
buddy of mine, guy named Zeke Skalicky,
53:52
who was the Raptor demo pilot,
53:53
outstanding guy.
53:54
Um but this is the Raptor demo, if
53:56
you've ever seen it. So we'll we'll take
53:57
some questions while this is going. Go
53:58
ahead.
54:00
So on F-22 Yeah, greater than one to
54:03
one. So the airplane about 63, 64,000 lb
54:07
normally it's on takeoff.
54:09
The thrust coming out the back is 70,000
54:11
lb. So on a nice cold day, like if
54:14
you're close enough to sea level, you
54:16
will actually go faster than the speed
54:17
of sound while you're climbing up. Which
54:21
is cool.
54:23
Yeah, yeah, but please
54:24
thrust vectoring while taking off?
54:27
I Let's try to
54:29
Oh yeah, try to repeat the question if
54:30
you can. Oh, sorry. Cuz he's not miked.
54:33
So the question was Well one, the
54:35
question was is thrust to weight ratio.
54:36
It's greater than one to one, a little
54:38
bit greater than one to one on takeoff.
54:40
By the way, watch this maneuver here
54:41
real quick. So that's the thrust
54:43
vectoring
54:45
kind of kicking in to really get the
54:47
airplane. So initially that's the flight
54:48
control surfaces. And then as things
54:49
slow down, the thrust vectoring kicks in
54:51
to basically turn the airplane into a
54:52
flat plate.
54:55
Second question was about the thrust
54:57
vectoring on takeoff. So it'll put in a
54:59
little bit up, not much, just a little
55:01
bit up just to help the nose rotate.
55:02
Just just a tad.
55:05
This is that high angle of attack kind
55:07
of maneuver, if you will.
55:12
Keep going. It's all good questions.
55:14
Yeah. You said all the software's
55:16
written so basically so the plane can't
55:18
damage itself. So this is the pilot
55:20
becoming a limiter? Yes. You in
55:21
situations where it can hurt you? Yeah,
55:24
very much so. In fact, we've kind of
55:25
achieved that spot now where the pilot
55:27
very much is limiting the performance of
55:29
the airplane itself cuz the airplane can
55:31
do so much more. What you So this is
55:33
what's called a fifth generation
55:35
fighter. First generation was like an
55:37
old Korean War
55:39
like F-86 kind of airplane. And then
55:40
successively through the generations,
55:42
you arrive at this fifth generation,
55:44
which to me is the pinnacle of what you
55:46
could get with a human and an airplane
55:49
together. Sixth generation is going to
55:51
involve teaming this airplane with
55:54
unmanned airplanes. And the unmanned
55:56
airplanes are going to have a lot more
55:57
capability from a maneuvering standpoint
55:59
because they don't have the limitation
56:00
of the pilot and all the life support
56:02
systems that come with it and everything
56:04
else. So all that weight you would
56:05
normally devote to that, you can get
56:07
away with putting other stuff in there.
56:09
When I was telling you it flies about
56:10
the same speed as like a Cessna,
56:13
I mean this is those types of maneuvers
56:14
there where you can get away with that.
56:15
Again, watch the flight control surfaces
56:17
in the back and what's going on.
56:20
Later on they'll do a pass where he'll
56:22
open up the doors and you can see the
56:23
main weapon bay, which is underneath the
56:25
airplane belly. And then you'll see the
56:26
side weapon bay doors. So you can kind
56:28
of see kind of where all the weapons are
56:29
carried inside the airplane. Again, a
56:31
huge center of gravity challenge.
56:33
Incidentally, so so here's a maneuver
56:34
there so you can see the doors open.
56:39
One thing I didn't really tell you about
56:40
is so in that situation cuz you know,
56:42
missiles weigh a couple hundred pounds a
56:44
piece or so. Some of the bombs are about
56:45
a thousand pounds a piece. When you lose
56:47
all that weight immediately, it's
56:48
literally like dropping a car off the
56:50
front end of the airplane. The way that
56:52
it fixes that center of gravity issue is
56:54
by changing fuel inside the airplane. So
56:56
it sloshes fuel forward or back to keep
56:58
the center of gravity again completely
57:00
pilot There's no fuel control panel
57:02
where I go, well, move this and click
57:03
this and whatever. It does it all
57:05
completely automatically. Go ahead.
57:07
Yeah.
57:11
The sensors that you can use? So all of
57:13
the fuel tanks are are instrumented.
57:15
So you know the status of fuel in terms
57:17
of where things are set up.
57:19
It you tell it what Actually, it has the
57:22
ability to know what's on the airplane.
57:23
So when you load a missile, it goes, oh,
57:24
it's this type of missile. And it goes
57:26
it weighs this much. And it knows the
57:27
mass properties of it. And so it sets it
57:29
up from there.
57:32
So
57:34
it actually identifies that all by
57:35
itself.
57:37
So like in a in a Cirrus, you have to go
57:39
you have to actually pull up a screen on
57:40
the Cirrus and go, my passenger weighs
57:42
this and I've got this baggage on board.
57:44
And and then it gives you the picture of
57:45
where the center of gravity is. Um this
57:47
thing because it's all digital, the
57:48
missile has a little connector rod that
57:50
connects in and it says, behold, I'm a
57:52
missile.
57:54
Oh, the pilot weight doesn't matter
57:56
because they they they spec it well
57:59
it matters, but for a different reason.
58:01
It matters for the ejection seat
58:03
predominantly. Because the ejection seat
58:05
you know, I think it's like 135 lb is
58:08
the light It's something like that. 115,
58:10
135 to like 220 or something. It's
58:13
something around that spot.
58:15
So to be able to be within the safe
58:16
envelope of the ejection seat, that's
58:18
where the weight of the pilot matters.
58:21
But they they spec the center of gravity
58:23
such that so long as
58:24
really anyone can sit up front and
58:26
you're not going to throw off the CG of
58:27
the airplane. Even though you're way far
58:29
forward of the of the CG and there there
58:31
there there's a moment arm there.
58:33
But between everything else in the
58:34
cockpit, I mean that ejection seat is
58:35
ridiculously heavy. And all the avionics
58:37
that sit up front, the radars up front.
58:39
I mean all these things that sit up
58:40
there have far more of a contribution to
58:42
the center of gravity than you do.
58:45
Unless you're like Shaq or something
58:47
like that. But go ahead.
58:49
Is it on the either flight cockpit or on
58:52
the helmet screen?
58:54
So in this airplane, not yet. That's
58:57
coming along soon. Some of the older
58:58
airplanes, believe it or not, have that.
59:00
Like the F-15 that I flew, you had a
59:01
special helmet that had all of the
59:04
information displayed on the visor
59:06
itself.
59:07
So in addition to that hands-on throttle
59:09
and stick, so I don't have to take my
59:10
hands off of anything to touch anything
59:11
in the cockpit. I also don't have to
59:13
look in the cockpit to see altitude,
59:16
airspeed, heading. It's it's all
59:18
displayed to me
59:20
up front. This airplane eventually will
59:22
get that. It it didn't make the This is
59:24
a programmatic discussion now, right?
59:26
They They only had so many dollars to
59:28
spend and they said this airplane is so
59:30
awesome that it shouldn't need a helmet
59:32
mounted display system because it should
59:34
be able to see uh all the bad guys from
59:36
far enough away and not be a problem.
59:38
We fielded the airplane that way and
59:40
every pilot So, the first batch of
59:41
pilots, they all transitioned from
59:43
airplanes that had that helmet mounted
59:45
system and they came to this airplane
59:47
where it didn't have it and they were
59:48
pissed. They're like, "We We got to have
59:50
that back." Right? So, that's kind of
59:52
where a lot of the efforts now are going
59:53
to modernize the airplane a bit.
59:56
What else? Good questions. Good. Yeah.
59:58
Yeah, why do they still need humans in
1:00:00
the cockpit? Why not just go for
1:00:01
unmanned systems?
1:00:04
It is It is the great debate of the
1:00:06
fighter community right now and you're
1:00:08
really touching on something really
1:00:09
really deep. Um
1:00:12
The best answer so far is that the
1:00:16
greatest I mean, we talked a lot about
1:00:17
the hardware and the systems on board
1:00:18
the airplane. Really, the greatest piece
1:00:20
of capability on the airplane is the
1:00:21
mind of the person flying
1:00:24
uh up front. If it's a very dynamic and
1:00:27
changing environment, uh to be able to
1:00:29
tell a machine to be able to incorporate
1:00:31
all those inputs and make the right
1:00:32
decisions based on that, kind of hard to
1:00:35
do right now. I'm not saying we're not
1:00:36
going to get there. Just right now it's
1:00:38
it's difficult. Where Where we use
1:00:40
unmanned systems a lot now is like in
1:00:42
surveillance
1:00:43
uh missions where you can just launch
1:00:44
the thing and it's got a pre-programmed
1:00:46
navigation and it knows what it needs to
1:00:47
do and it can set things up. Um those
1:00:50
are
1:00:51
somewhat bounded problems. Probably the
1:00:52
best way to to describe it where you
1:00:54
could use an unmanned system for that.
1:00:56
Where it gets difficult is in combat
1:00:57
situation, it's it's extremely dynamic.
1:01:00
It's It's Battle Royale, WWF, mosh pit,
1:01:03
any possible chaotic situation you can
1:01:05
put. That's kind of what it looks like.
1:01:07
Um and so, having a human mind attached
1:01:09
in that environment to be able to adapt
1:01:11
and do what the mind does better than a
1:01:13
machine does at least right now. That's
1:01:14
the main argument to keep humans in the
1:01:17
system.
1:01:18
For now. Right?
1:01:20
Yeah.
1:01:28
Yeah, it is. Um
1:01:31
Yeah, the question is is that if you
1:01:33
operate these things remotely, so even
1:01:35
if you had so, you know, classic
1:01:37
example, we'll use Sully Sullenberger,
1:01:39
all right, as a cuz we talked about
1:01:40
Sully in the previous one. Uh you take
1:01:43
off out of LaGuardia, you lose both
1:01:44
engines. Um if you could have a remote
1:01:46
pilot sitting somewhere else that could
1:01:48
take over and decide land on the Hudson
1:01:50
because a machine most likely wouldn't
1:01:51
have made that choice.
1:01:53
Um is there a time lag issue? The answer
1:01:55
is 100% yes.
1:01:57
Um there is a time lag issue between uh
1:01:59
getting that information display down,
1:02:00
make the input, that input goes back up
1:02:02
and comes back over. Um a thing we've
1:02:05
done at test pilot school is, remember
1:02:08
we showed earlier that flight path
1:02:09
marker?
1:02:10
Uh where as a pilot you put the flight
1:02:12
path marker and that's exactly where
1:02:13
your airplane's going to go. If there's
1:02:15
a time lag, that will actually mess you
1:02:17
up because there's some second or two
1:02:18
delay between what you're seeing and
1:02:20
what the airplane's actually going. At
1:02:21
test pilot school, they actually built a
1:02:23
flight test a flight path marker that
1:02:25
accounts for that time delay. If it
1:02:28
knows that time delay, it'll actually
1:02:29
account for it. So, you could fly the
1:02:31
airplane remotely
1:02:33
um even with the time lag and still be
1:02:34
able to do very high gain tasks like
1:02:36
land the airplane for instance where
1:02:38
things are changing very rapidly. So,
1:02:39
it's it's a new science, not fully
1:02:41
fleshed out yet, but the but the proof
1:02:42
of concept has been demonstrated to
1:02:44
control an airplane remotely
1:02:46
um even with the time lag.
1:02:49
Who really cares about that right now?
1:02:50
Are the airlines.
1:02:52
Because uh to be very frank, uh the
1:02:54
pilots tend to be a pain in the butt for
1:02:56
an airline company.
1:02:57
Um and if you can remove the pilots and
1:02:58
just have a remote operating system or
1:03:00
even an autonomous system, uh to the
1:03:02
from a business standpoint, the company
1:03:04
really likes that from an aviation
1:03:06
standpoint. It triggers all types of
1:03:08
discussions in a lot of other issues.
1:03:10
Um but that's one question. Good. Let me
1:03:12
jump Let me jump in for a minute with
1:03:13
that. I think actually, to me, one of
1:03:15
the holy grails of GA safety would be to
1:03:18
have uh
1:03:21
uh
1:03:22
human co-pilot perhaps, you know, on the
1:03:24
ground. So, if you had that kind of
1:03:26
telemetry that you have in a in a drone,
1:03:29
uh you know, human somewhere else could
1:03:31
say, you know, "You're running a little
1:03:32
short on fuel." Or you forgot to change
1:03:34
tanks. All the things that a human
1:03:36
uh co-pilot could do right in the
1:03:37
cockpit, you know, most of that safety,
1:03:39
running checklist could be probably
1:03:40
enhanced Yep. Uh remotely. So, that
1:03:43
would be a great add to a Cessna or a
1:03:45
Piper even. And you see a little bit now
1:03:47
in some of the more advanced airplanes
1:03:49
like we talked a little bit about if I
1:03:50
have an engine problem in the Raptor, I
1:03:51
literally do nothing. I just sit there
1:03:53
and stare at the clouds and go, "Wow,
1:03:54
what a lovely day." And the computer
1:03:55
fixes it for me. Right? Um there are
1:03:58
other scenarios where the jet will tell
1:04:00
me, "Hey, you've got a generator
1:04:01
problem." and then immediately pull up
1:04:03
the checklist for the generator failure
1:04:05
to allow me to fix it. So, you see some
1:04:08
basic automation right now kind of
1:04:10
already in play. Couple other questions,
1:04:11
I know we're running short. Good.
1:04:13
I'm good. Yeah.
1:04:25
Yeah, if it's a uh so, it's We have two
1:04:27
terms. One's called beyond visual range,
1:04:29
which means I can't see the other guy
1:04:31
with my eyes, um but my sensors can see
1:04:33
him. Um and if I'm shooting missiles
1:04:36
long distance like that, I I don't lose
1:04:38
any seat of the pants by being remotely.
1:04:40
It's like a video game. Like literally,
1:04:41
it's it's exactly like a video game. Um
1:04:43
if it's a maneuvering environment where
1:04:45
I see the guy and we're in a dog fight,
1:04:46
then yeah, you lose a lot, right? In
1:04:47
terms of seat of the pants, eyeball,
1:04:49
just things that are hard to to
1:04:51
automate. So, it's
1:04:52
half and half, right? In a drone
1:04:54
scenario, I mean,
1:04:56
what would a drone dog fight? I don't
1:04:57
know. It's a good question. I'm not
1:04:59
really sure.
1:05:00
Good.
1:05:06
You could. Um but then I have to have
1:05:08
some way to represent the physical
1:05:10
environment that the drone is seeing. I
1:05:12
got to be able to represent that to the
1:05:14
guy on the simulator on the ground. I I
1:05:16
have to be able to kind of relay that
1:05:18
real time. Um it matters. So,
1:05:20
uh
1:05:21
Who Who plays sports? Right? Guys, you
1:05:23
know, any I mean, whenever you're
1:05:25
playing sports, you got an opponent. Uh
1:05:27
you get if you play a lot like if it's
1:05:29
racquetball or football or something
1:05:30
like that, you get very good at looking
1:05:31
at your opponent and being able to see
1:05:33
micro movements before the actual big
1:05:35
movement happens so that you know, "Oh,
1:05:37
they're about to swing this way." Or
1:05:38
they're going to throw this way. So, you
1:05:40
can read your opponent and make a
1:05:42
decision about what's about to happen a
1:05:44
second or two from now. In a fighter
1:05:46
jet, the exact same thing. If I'm
1:05:48
fighting a guy and I see a control
1:05:50
surface deflection even before the
1:05:52
airplane has gone, I know person's going
1:05:54
this way.
1:05:56
I can position myself to be there before
1:05:57
they arrive.
1:05:59
I would need some way to represent that
1:06:01
if I'm in a simulator on the ground and
1:06:03
it would have to be kind of transparent
1:06:05
to the guy in the simulator
1:06:06
what what that feels like.
1:06:09
Good.
1:06:10
Lots of good questions. It's good class.
1:06:12
Let me ask actually, where's Who's here
1:06:14
from the flying club?
1:06:16
Uh Sebastian?
1:06:17
Yeah, actually, I wonder if lads, can
1:06:19
you stay another uh 10-15 minutes?
1:06:21
Absolutely. Why don't we have Sebastian
1:06:23
jump in, give his flying club spiel, and
1:06:26
then uh both of them will be up front
1:06:28
for uh questions right afterwards.
1:06:31
Thank you, lads.
1:06:31
No worries.
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