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Who Are God’s Chosen People? Tucker Waits Patiently as Mike Huckabee Scrambles (Hilarious)
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May 10, 2026
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Who are the people?
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>> Who who are the modern? Yes. Who are who
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are the descendants? So, we know and I
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believe and I agree with you as a
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Christian that God promised
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>> this land from modern day Iraq to modern
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day Egypt to this people, the Jews, to
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Abram's actually not to the to Abram's
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descendants as it says in Genesis 15.
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Who are his descendants now? And how do
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we know who they are?
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>> I think they're the Jews. And we know
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who they are because they've always been
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a Jewish people. There has been an
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unbroken line of Jewish people and
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they've lived in this land for 3,800
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years. Sometimes not very many of them
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because they were chased out all over
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the world. They were hunted down. They
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were almost annihilated during the
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Holocaust. They came back to this day.
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Tucker, they represent, you know, how
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many Jews there are in the whole world.
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>> Please, I understand. First of all, the
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greatest genocide of Jews no one ever
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mentions was by the Romans where they
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were literally banned from Jerusalem for
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500 years.
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>> Yeah. Of course.
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>> And and it's all awful. And I'm opposed
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to all of that. I'm opposed to mass
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killing of anybody. Period. I'm opposed
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to
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>> you say that.
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>> I mean it.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And I hope I believe that.
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>> My question is, and it's not a bumper
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sticker answer. It's a sincere answer.
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How do we know? Because what you're
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>> saying is that certain people have a
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title to a highly contested region. They
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own it in some deep sense.
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>> So I think it's fair to ask, who are
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they? And how do we know? So the current
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prime minister's ancestors weren't from
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here within recorded history. They're he
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has no deed. BB Netanyahu on one side is
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families from Poland. They're from
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Eastern Europe. So how do we know that
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he has a connection to the people
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who God promised the land to Abram's
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descendants? How do we know that? Well,
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if you take the genealogies that come
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not only from the Old but the New
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Testament, you see that there is a
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historical connection through the
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entirety of the Old and the New
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Testament that details the Jewish
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connection to this land.
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>> Does that include his family? How do we
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know that if his family scattered?
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>> But how do we know it's the same people?
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>> No. Why is that crazy? If if if you say
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to me if they speak the same language,
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if they worship the same God, if they
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follow the same Bible, if they follow
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the same cultures and traditions and
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they always pray next year in Jerusalem
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and they pray for the peace of Jerusalem
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and they pray facing toward Jerusalem,
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does that not give you a little bit of a
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clue as to who they are? Let's go
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through those things because I would
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like to have a rational This is the
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conversation I've wanted. Bless you.
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Thank you for doing this.
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>> Um, let's just go through those things.
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>> Okay. So, one of the things I admire
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most about Israel is they resurrected a
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dead language in 1948. Good for them.
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>> Well, they really didn't resurrect it.
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It It was existent.
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>> Okay. I'm not That's not That's a
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compliment. I'm not slight no. But it is
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the first time in all of human history
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that a language has survived through
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this length of time. It's it's it's I
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would call it You might not, but I would
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call it a miracle. One of many,
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>> okay, that you can attribute to this.
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>> I think it's wonderful as someone who
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loves language. Netanyahu's parents did
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not speak Hebrew. Okay? They didn't live
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in this region. Netanyahu, the founders
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of this country were mostly secular.
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Some of them were avowed atheists. They
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were not praying for the peace of
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Jerusalem. They weren't praying at all
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because they didn't believe in God.
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>> There's no genealogy linking their
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families to the people of this land
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3,000 years ago. They're none. So, how
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do we know since they didn't share a
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language? They didn't share a religion.
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They had no religion whatsoever.
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How do we know that they had a right to
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come here from Eastern Europe? And
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>> but they were scattered.
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>> They were scattered to Eastern Europe.
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They were scattered all over the world.
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There were many in Ethiopia. They were
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in Russia. They were in Poland.
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>> They were throughout Asia.
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>> Jews were all over the place, but they
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were still Jews. But they were still
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Jews.
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>> Okay. So, let me get to the nub of the
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question since again, a lot is at stake.
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A lot of money is at stake. land is very
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valuable.
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Uh, Israel has a lot of resources. By
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the way, if you're accused of a crime,
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you can hide here. That's pretty good
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passport to have. It's a good thing,
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right? So, who's entitled to it? I don't
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understand. And you're very discouraged
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in the United States from asking this
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question for some reason. It's a totally
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rational discourage.
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>> No, you're not discouraging. Others do.
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You're like the only person I have this
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conversation with. Every be like, "Shut
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up, Nazi."
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>> It It's a foundational question. Are you
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speaking of an ethnic group or a
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religious group?
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>> Well, I think you're looking at for many
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people it is religious. There are people
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who may not have a deep religious
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connection to Judaism, but they're still
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Jews.
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>> Okay? So, it's it's an ethnic category.
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>> It is ethnic, but it is also religious.
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It is rooted in religion. You can't take
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it out of it. Now, that means
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>> then how can an atheist
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>> Well, I will tell you this. There are
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some people who say, "I'm Christian."
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They never go to church. They never
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pray. They never read their Bible. They
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don't tithe.
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>> But they're not entitled to citizenship
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on the basis of that. They're not
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entitled to they still call themselves
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Christian. Even though they identify
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here's the difference. You're saying
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that people who have this identification
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have a deed to a huge chunk of land on
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the Mediterranean. Okay. So there's, you
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know, it's a it's a right. You keep
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telling me it's a right. And so it's
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totally fair to say if you come to my
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house and say I've got the title to your
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house, I get to ask, may I see it?
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Where'd you get it? And that's exactly
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what happened here. People from Europe,
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Eastern Europe, came here. In a lot of
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cases, atheists and kicked out a lot of
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people who lived here land.
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>> Well, they did not just throw people
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out.
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>> They bought a lot of land. There's no
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question about that. Buy a lot of land,
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>> but they also in 1948 kicked out a lot
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of people in the war.
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>> It was a war. I agree. I'm not, look,
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I'm not want to relitigate the history.
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I'm just saying it's a fact.
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>> Okay?
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>> Including a lot of Christians, a lot of
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Christians
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>> uh wound up fleeing
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>> and they lost their homes and they've
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never been allowed back. And all of this
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was justified on the basis of this
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identity that forms that is the ticket
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to the right that you keep referring to.
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So my question is very simple. I'm going
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to wait patiently for an answer. Does
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this right derive from religious
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affiliation
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or from genetics? And I would say it's
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both. But I would also say that when you
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said the Christians were kicked out,
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Tucker, Christianity is growing in
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Israel.
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>> Okay. But and and there is a big lie
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that goes out there. But but no, let me
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finish this because I I keep hearing
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that Christians are
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>> really not treated well in Israel.
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That's just simply that's a lie.
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>> Well, there are lots there are lots of
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different
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>> There were 34,000 Christians in Israel
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in 1948. There are 184,000 Christians
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here today.
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>> And by Israel, what are you counting?
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You talking about the land?
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>> What? What? What territory? Are you
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counting? You're counting Israel proper?
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Are you counting the West Bank as well
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and Gaza? I mean, what what do you when
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you say Israel, those numbers apply to
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what land mass?
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>> It would be in Israel proper. Okay,
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there 184,000.
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>> Now, I'll tell you where Christians are
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not doing very well. They're not doing
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very well in the Muslim control
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countries. There's almost no Christians
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in Qatar, for example, except those who
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live in the Christian ghetto who are the
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service workers.
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>> I'm sorry. Look, I don't want to argue
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with you. There there are many more
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Christians in Qatar than there are in
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Israel.
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>> That's not true.
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>> What it actually is true and I refer you
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to Wikipedia, Mr. Ambassador.
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>> Wikipedia that
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>> I refer you to the government of Qar,
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the government of Israel. These are
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knowable facts. Like I'm And I'm in
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Jordan by the numbers are down. In
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Syria, the numbers are down. In Lebanon,
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the numbers are down. just tell you that
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>> about twice as many Christians,
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>> but they live in the enclave. They are
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not native Qataris.
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>> Okay, we're we're mixing so many
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different categories here. I'm just
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saying I get things wrong all the time.
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You've just gotten something wrong. And
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I think it's important to acknowledge
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it. There are many more Christians in
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Qar than there are in Israel. Fact.
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>> How many?
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>> Now, you caught me. I don't know. I
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could look at my phone, but I was just
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there and there many more like whatever.
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But I just want to get to the point
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that forms the basis of this whole
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conversation which is who has a right to
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the land.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And you said it's a mixture of religion
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and ethnicity because as I noted and you
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agree many of the founders maybe the
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majority of the founders of modern
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Israel did not believe in God at all. So
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they were not religious Jews. They
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weren't religious at all. They were
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atheists. They said they were atheists.
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I believe them.
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>> So that suggests it's ethnic. But it's
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also true, as you well know, because
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there was a famous court case about
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this, that ethnic Jews who convert to
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Christianity do not have the right of
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return. That was settled by the Israeli
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Supreme Court.
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I'm very confused. So, that would
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suggest it's not ethnicity because you
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invalidate your Jewishness by converting
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to Christianity.
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>> There are a number of Messianic Jews who
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live in Israel,
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who are here. I'm aware of this. I'm
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aware of that number, but you're not
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contesting what I'm saying because it's
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a very famous court case.
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>> The right of return has to do with your
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mother, your grandmother. It has to do
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with family ties. Ethnic
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>> there is a lot of sure ethnicity is a
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big part of the right of return to make
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aliyah to come to Israel to live here.
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Then if I if both of your parents are
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Jewish and you have an ethnic right to
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land, you are one of Abram's
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descendants,
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but you convert to Christianity. How is
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it you don't have the right to return?
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I'm totally confused.
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>> But I know a number of people who have
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returned as Christians, but have Jewish
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history.
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>> Are you saying that Jews who convert to
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Christianity have a right, a legal right
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to return? Cuz I
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>> I know that they do. Whether when you
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say do they have a right to return do
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they prove
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>> it's a it's a legal category as in any
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government by their family history their
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grandmother their mother and there are
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many aspects of that
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>> I've read it I think I know that these
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were people who were Christian and they
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came here made aliyah they had Jewish
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blood Jewish history they were Christian
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messianic but they came here and they
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were welcomed here
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>> and they were given full legal rights
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and a passport. So, so clearly
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>> that's not it's not true that you
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invalidate your right of return by
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converting to Christianity. That's just
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false.
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>> I'm not aware of that. I I know that
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there are a number of Christians here. I
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go to church with Christians every week
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here.
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>> Of course. But do you have a right to
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come and say I am an ethnic Jew even
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though I practice Christianity.
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Therefore, I have every bit as much
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right to move into a settlement in the
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West Bank or into East Jerusale or
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anywhere I want, Galilee, anywhere
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because I am returning to the land of my
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forefathers of a legal right in the
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state of Israel even though I've
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converted to Christianity. You're saying
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that's true.
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>> I'm saying I know people have done it.
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Now, can can I tell you what the law
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specifically is? I'm not sure because
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>> Well, it's really a Christian. I'm not I
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don't have any Jewish roots, so
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therefore I cannot quote you the law. If
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you want me to do that, I'll look at
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>> Well, it really matters because you're
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saying, in fact, people in the United
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States are being called anti-semites.
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>> A lot of them, including me, because
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they somehow don't believe that Israel
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has a right to this land.
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>> Do you think Israel has a right to this
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land?
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>> No. You haven't defined what the land
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is, and you haven't defined who Israel
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is, so I really don't know.
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>> No, it is the land they're living in
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now. The borders that they have,
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>> the borders are moving. The borders have
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moved in the last year.
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>> What do you mean the borders have moved
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in the last
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>> Well, they they are the 1967 borders.
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I'm including, you know, the the West
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>> East Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria.
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>> What are the borders of Judea and
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Samaria?
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>> Well, you basically take the Jordan
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River and it's west of the Jordan River
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to the Mediterranean Sea to the Lebanon
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border and uh Israel did have control of
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the Sinai. They gave that to Egypt. They
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had control of it,
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>> right?
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>> They gave it away in 1979 in the peace
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agreement.
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>> Um,
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>> but okay. So, we whatever you call it,
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the land that was taken from Jordan in
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1967, you call it Judea and Samaria.
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There's a significance to that that I
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>> don't fully understand. I'm against it.
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I don't know what it it's 80% of the
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Bible happened in Judea and Samaria. But
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we've also established that the Bible
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gives Jews the right to occupy the land
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from the Nile to the Euphrates. So I'm
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very confused by why we've shrunk the
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land and why we're dis
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>> Israel has shrunk the land. They have
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made that decision. That's why they gave
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away.
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>> Now my land given away a lot of things.
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>> Abram's descendants are the ones who
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have the right to have this land.
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Correct.
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>> Yes.
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>> Okay. Why don't we do genetic testing on
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everybody in the land and find out who
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Abram's descendants are? It's really
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simple. We've cracked the human genome.
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We can do that. Why don't we do that?
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Would you be against doing that?
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>> I I have no idea what that would prove.
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I mean, maybe it would be
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>> What do you mean what it would? It would
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prove who Abram's descendants are and
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who has a a right to live here and who
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doesn't according to the theology that
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you yourself just explained. And so I'm
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very confused as to why we don't do
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that. If you believe the theology that
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you've just explained to me, would we do
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that all over the world? Everybody,
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>> this is the only country in the world
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that you've said has
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this covenant with God, that this people
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have a moral and legal right to the
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land.
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>> What about people who convert to
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Judaism? Would they have a right?
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>> Well, you've just
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you've just said to Judaism, so you just
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told me
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>> they can make aliyah. They may not have
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you just told me that it doesn't matter.
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You told me moments ago, trying to keep
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track,
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>> okay,
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>> that it doesn't matter whether or not
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you believe in God or whether or not you
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practice Torah Judaism or rabbitic
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Judaism, which is something else that I
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I don't even know if we should I don't
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even know what that means. But it
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doesn't matter whether you're quote a
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religious Jew or not. What matters is
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that you are part of the Jewish people
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to whom God gave this land that extends
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from the Nile to the Euphrates. And so
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if you believe that, wouldn't you want
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to know with a burning passion who those
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people are? And because of science, we
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can now know who those people are.
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>> So why aren't we finding out?
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>> I guess you could propose a DNA test for
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everybody who comes here, everybody who
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lives here. But the point
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>> I'm comfortable with secular nation
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states where it's none of this is done
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on the basis of blood. I'm uncomfortable
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with that. I'll just say that. But there
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are people who may not have bloodlines
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but who have converted to Judaism.
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Are they going to be able to live here?
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Are you going to kick them out?
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>> By your standards, they can't live here
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because you just said that they have a
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right to live here because God gave them
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the land because they're the descendants
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of Abram.
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>> They're the descendants of Abraham. But
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if they're the spiritual descendants of
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Abraham and they've now decided that
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they're converting to Judaism,
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then do they have a right to live in
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Israel? I well there's a whole legal
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literature in Israel on that question
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and my understanding is that certain
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types of modern Judaism qualify a person
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and other types don't is that your
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understanding
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>> I don't believe that people converted
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and I could have this wrong but I know
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people who've faced this personally know
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people I don't believe people who've
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converted in a reform synagogue have the
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right of return. I I don't think that is
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because I know people who've married
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into Jewish families and they find out
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they don't have the right of return. So
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that is perplexing to me.
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