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My Response to Terrence Howard 17:02

My Response to Terrence Howard

StarTalk · May 10, 2026
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I recently learned I got name checked by
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Terrence Howard on his recent appearance
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on Joe Rogan I reached out to Neil
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Degrassi Tyson Neil degrass Tyson he was
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like hey man yeah I'd love for you to
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come on my show do my radio do my TV
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thing would love that I was like yeah
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but let me I've got something I want to
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introduce to you I got name checked
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because 8 years ago he sent me a 36 page
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treaties and it was only 36 pages so
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this is Terence
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Howard attempting to reinvent
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mathematics and physics a little
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backstory there I took initial interest
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in Terrence because my mother said to me
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do you know Terrence Howard I said yeah
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I know you mean the actor she said yeah
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well I heard him interviewed on NPR on
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there he said that like when he was a
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kid he wanted to be like a scientist and
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study the Universe I said well that's
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cool okay maybe we'll get him on Star
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Talk we love talk to celebrities who
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have a soft geek underbelly at the time
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I didn't quite know how to get in touch
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with him but we met at a something
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called the upfronts which is where
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networks present their next season's TV
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shows I saw him at an event um uh
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upfront and then this came in in my
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inbox in this particular case since I
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basically solicited it from him I
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actually spent time reading every line
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of all 36 pages and I commented my
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comments are in red here you see that so
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I spent a lot of time on it and I
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thought out of respect for him what I
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should
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do is give him my most informed critical
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analysis that I can in my field we call
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that a peer review you come up with an
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idea you present it either at a
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conference or you first write it up and
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you send it to your colleagues it is
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their duty to alert you of things about
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your ideas that are either misguided or
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wrong or or there's a Mis the
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calculation doesn't work out or the the
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logic doesn't comport that's their job
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not all ideas will turn out to be
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correct most won't be but to get to that
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point you need to know things like what
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has everyone else said about this same
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subject am I repeating someone else's
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work is this a new insight that no one
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else has had but has foundations that
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are authentic or legitimate or
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objectively true am I making a false
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assumption am I makinging an assumption
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that someone else has already shown to
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be false all of this goes on on the
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frontier of science let me make it clear
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that I'm delighted when I see people
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with active Minds trying to tackle the
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great unknowns in the universe it's a
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beautiful thing that people want to
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participate on this Frontier what can
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happen is if you're a fan of a subject
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let's say a hobbyist let's call it it's
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possible to know enough about that
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subject to think you're right but not
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enough about that subject to know that
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you're wrong and so there's this sort of
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Valley in there a valley of false
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confidence this has been studied by
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others and it's called the Dunning
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Krueger effect it's the phenomenon where
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a little bit of knowledge you over
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assess how much of that subject you
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actually know and then when you learn
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even more you realize no I didn't know
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as much as I thought I did so then
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there's a sort of a lull there and then
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when you learn even more you come back
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up ultimately learning enough to know
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whether you are right or wrong to become
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an expert means you spend all this time
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it doesn't happen overnight you can't
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just sit in an armchair and say I'm now
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an expert it requires years and years of
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study especially looking through
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journals where new ideas are published
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and contested that's what we have
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learned learned is the most effective
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means of establishing that which is
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objectively true or determining that
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which is objectively false both of those
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work hand in hand to move the needle on
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our understanding of the universe I'm
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going to read you just my opening line
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here it's titled 1 * 1 equal 2 so I lead
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off by saying this is an ambitious work
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that is a clear indication of a Restless
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active mind with in these Pages however
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there are many assumptions and
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statements that are underinformative
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greater than the initial number squared
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for that would expose a loose thread
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within the fabric of our understanding a
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loose thread capable of unraveling the
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very ground rules of mathematics that's
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a bold statement so then I I just say
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this opening thesis is false there are
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plenty of examples of this that have
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escaped your attention his statement is
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shown to be false for every number
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that's less than one and greater than Z
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for example the square root of 64 is8 8
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is bigger than 64 and it's a larger
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number than the original and 64 squared
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=
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496 a smaller number than the original
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to the extent that the next 35 Pages
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depends on your stated
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thesis this fact undermines your claims
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and assumptions and conclusions it's not
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about feelings here it's about objective
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reality so at the time I I considered
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Terren a strong acquaintance and we hung
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out a bit and had much exchange we
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haven't spoken much since then but go to
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page two and in here he mentions people
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who he declares were persecuted because
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their Vision exceeded the myopic view of
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their contemporaries and he mentions
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Walter Russell Nicola Tesla John Keeley
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and many many more regarding you L your
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list of people who have made Brave
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sacrifices I note that to be a genius is
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to be misunderstood but to be
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misunderstood is not to be a genius the
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work of Russell Walter Russell has
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eluded any experimental support and the
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work of Keeley is generally not
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reproducible science is about
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reproducibility I can have the most
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brilliant crazy fun idea ever and if I
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perform an experiment and no one else
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can duplicate that experiment it belongs
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in the trash Heap it's me in my own
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world think I have landed on an
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objective truth when in fact I haven't
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that's how science works the
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reproducibility of results as for the
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work of Tesla much of it had very real
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value to physics and our understanding
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of electromagnetism and that value is
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duly recognized by my community in the
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naming of a unit of electromagnetism
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after him you can't get more badass than
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having a unit named after you Newton has
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a unit named after him for example the
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metric unit of force is a Newton much of
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the rest of his work was Fringe and
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unrealized either for violating known
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laws of physics or for being simply
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impractical just because you do some
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good stuff doesn't mean everything you
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ever did is going to be great I will
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further affirm that just because an idea
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sounds crazy doesn't make it wrong the
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system of research and Publications in
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peer-review journals has the capacity to
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spot crazy but true ideas provided they
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supporting by compelling arguments and
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ultimately supported by experiments and
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observations Newton's Laws Einstein's
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relativity quantum physics were all
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revolutionary ideas that appeared in
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peer-review settings or journals
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meanwhile most of the work of Russell
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and Keeley had no such success with
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their ideas so I think on Rogan Terren
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said that I trashed those three
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researchers attack that I had immediate
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that I talked about Walter Russell and
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Victor Shaw Berger and John Keeley as
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and Tesla as the people that I looked up
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to so he threw on on he was like
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well Tesla Tesla stuff worked but Tesla
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was never really respected and out there
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when I'm just simply stating the fact I
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don't think of that as trashing I think
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of that as being honest I mean I could
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have softened it but I don't think
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that's what people who care about you
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should do people who care will be honest
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with you about ideas about thoughts the
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world is changing so quickly and so is
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everything around us unfortunately we
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have chosen to remain handcuffed to
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Antiquated and obsolete beliefs we have
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put an enormous amount of faith faith
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into the methods and practices of old
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that are as dead today as The Men Who
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propagated the notion that the world was
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flat so I say here regarding your world
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was flat reference
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it's not widely appreciated that the
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idea of a flat Earth predates the
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introduction and development of the
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methods and tools of science as we
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practice them today those processes date
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back to around 1600 coincident with the
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invention of the microscope and
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Telescope before then truths were
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whatever seemed right to the senses
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afterwards and to this day truth was
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whatever the verified data obtained by
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your instruments forced you to believe
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if your senses otherwise contradicted
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the data this fact means that there's no
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such misunderstanding on the scale of
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the Flat Earth in the era of modern
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science and in multiple places
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throughout the
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treaties he's attaching a number to a
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physical idea or a physical object that
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idea goes way back by the way go back to
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Pythagoras famous for the Pythagorean
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theorem which we all learned in 8th
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grade was it or nth grade Pythagoras was
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also a philosopher who tried to
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understand how things worked he felt
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among others in his group that if you
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assign a number to something the number
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can abue that object with certain
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meaning and significance which means
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then if you manipulate the numbers that
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you gain insight into the objects
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themselves once you've assigned a number
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to it there's a lot of that that
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permeates this document uh but it's a
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long disproven approach to the world
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again there's nothing wrong with a
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failed idea now other people know to not
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do it right that has value if we place a
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candle in front of a mirror the
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measurement of light is doubled is it
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not it does not measure as only one
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light source we actually see two lights
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a light meter will show twice the
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intensity of light this is false he
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attacked it so with such
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vitro maybe that's too blunt what else
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should I say I'm a scientist that's what
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I would tell a colleague a colleague who
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then say would thank you and then we go
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out for beer after cuz that's how that
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works and there's an old saying I first
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heard it from Michael Dell of Dell
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Technologies if one day you find
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yourself the smartest person in the room
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change rooms I say this is false the
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light in the mirror appears dimmer than
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the source of light itself for several
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reasons starting with the fact that no
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mirror is 100% reflective but more
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importantly the candle in the mirror is
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always is farther away from you than the
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candle itself so the light meter will
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always read less than twice the actual
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value of the candle itself I will
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note that from this work Terren produces
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art sculptural art which I find to be
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intriguing even beautiful to me more
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intriguing than beautiful because you
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got to look at it and you keep looking
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at it what is that and what's going on
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there I just want to read you my end and
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comments here I could not follow the
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reasoning on these last few pages but
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the illustrations that derive from them
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are beautiful regardless of how they
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were derived my notes have been strongly
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critical of your reasoning and
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conclusions I was candid and blunt out
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of respect for the energy you have
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clearly invested in this work but if
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you're sure that you are still right and
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that I have completely misunderstood
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your thesis then you will need to look
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for another person to evaluate what you
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have done and solicit their comments in
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any case like I say above the images and
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illustrations in your final pages are
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beautiful works of art unlike any I have
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seen best to you Neil so in case people
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wanted to know what actually went down 8
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years ago just always be cautious of the
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Dunning Krueger effect you put in a
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little bit of work and you have an idea
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and then you think your idea is right
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and that Einstein is wrong and Newton is
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wrong and that everybody's wrong and
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that all of modern astrophysicists are
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wrong that's
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bold that's B audacious
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Bodacious when continental drift was
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proposed it was like what land masses
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are moving on Earth Sur that's a weird
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idea that's going to be a hard cell we
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think there's sort of up swelling of the
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yes locally but whole continence move
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that's crazy it would take a few decades
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until ultimately when we're mapping the
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bottom of the ocean we find that there's
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a Mid-Atlantic Ridge that the ridges are
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separating it's like bada bing so the
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resistance to jumping on the idea that
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continents
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move was not because people were
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stubborn it was because people are
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cautious any new idea needs to be put
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through the ringer that's how science
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works you put it through the ringer
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every possible test you can not just cuz
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it happens to look like South America
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fits with Africa any better evidence
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than that oh wait a minute fossils
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matched between the west coast of South
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America and the east coast of Africa not
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recent fossils fossils from millions of
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years ago that's interesting things that
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make you go hm that brought some more
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people over to the camp you keep that up
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and you reach a point where enough
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evidence is brought to bear on the
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question and then you have a new
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emerging truth but at the the vibrant
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energy that goes on it conferences and
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the contest of ideas that's how we roll
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that's how it works when Einstein came
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out with relativity saying SpaceTime
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curves Albert Al what are you saying
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what are you doing well you can test it
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the total solar eclipse so the idea
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comes out in 1915 is published in 1916
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1919 we measured light around the edge
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of a total so during a total solar
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eclipse cuz you can't see the stars
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during the daytime you see the light the
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light rays bent from their actual
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coordinate positions on the sky Sir
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Arthur Edington an astrophysicist
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provided the first experimental evidence
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for Einstein's general theory of
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relativity which by the way was
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published in a peer-review journal crazy
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idea the platform to be accepted for the
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ideas is not social media it is not Joe
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Rogan it is not my podcast it is
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research journals
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where attention can be given on a
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level that at the end of the day offers
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no higher respect for your energy and
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intellect than by declaring that what's
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in it is either right or wrong or worthy
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of publication or not I wanted to post
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this to my website so you can see my
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comments mixed in with his treaties but
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uh you got the sense of it thanks for
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listening thanks for watching
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Neil degrass Tyson here as always keep
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looking up
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