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>> The Joe Rogan Experience.

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>> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY

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NIGHT. All day.

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>> Good to see you, sir.

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>> Thank you for having me, brothers. Big

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honor.

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>> Thank you. An honor for me, too. Very

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excited about this. Very excited to talk

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to you. There's so many different things

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to discuss. So, do you know what is

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going to be released? So supposedly this

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is the week of some kind of disclosure.

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Can you give us any insight as to what's

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going on?

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>> Oddly enough, I got a call that um that

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tomorrow at 3:00 I'm going to be briefed

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over the phone by um I think one of

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Seth's top dogs is going to go over some

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stuff with me that they've got and I

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have no earthly idea. I I don't want

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everybody to get their hopes up. I don't

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have a lot of faith in in our

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government. President Trump's always

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been great to me. He's never lied to me.

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But I I don't know that he knows the

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right questions to ask and the right

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people to talk to because I mean, this

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thing's been covered up at least since

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1947.

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And I just don't think they're going to

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they don't give up that easy. The war

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pimps at the Pentagon and everybody

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else, they just don't give up that easy.

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>> How how did you come to understand all

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this stuff? like what was your

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understanding of it before you got into

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government?

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>> I had pretty cool parents. Um, right now

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they would uh daddy was an old World War

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II marine and mama flew an airplane

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during the Second World War. I mean,

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they were they were badasses. Then they

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were good Christian people. But my daddy

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was a stone cold killer. I mean, he was

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the real deal. He was on Peloo and

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Okinawa in the Marine Corps. And of

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course, mama's oldest brother, Roy, got

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killed fighting the Nazis. And mama did

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her part. Just a little country girl.

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didn't have electricity till she's a

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senior in high school. So, I've kind of

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lived the American dream. But they would

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let me, you know, they let me get

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bloodied up and then they would patch me

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up and let me go. You know, I I could

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ride my bike to the library or the

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library if you're from East Tennessee.

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And uh and it was, you know, about a

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mile from the house and they go in there

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and they have these books set up and

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they had all this stuff on, you know,

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all this wild stuff and there's a book

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on UFOs and I just picked it up and

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started reading it. I probably wasn't, I

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don't know, seven or eight years old and

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I just always followed it, you know, the

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the magazine articles and I'd go out at

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night and hope to see a UFO. Never did,

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never have um until some of the

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briefings I've been in. But um and then

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I'm walking down the street

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>> and can I mention another news sources?

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Okay. I was walking down the street and

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TMZ was there was a guy there um this

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black fella, his name's Colin. He's a

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buddy of mine. He doesn't work for them

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anymore, but he was filming and he said,

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"Hey, Congressman," he said, "You want

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me to comment on the UFO thing?" He

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couldn't get anybody to comment. I said,

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"Why sure?" I said, "They're going to

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issue tell you they're going to issue

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you a report and it's going to be loaded

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and everybody's freaking out. It's going

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to be the greatest thing. It's going to

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be total disclosure and then they're

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going to put something out. It looked

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like somebody shot it with a dad gum 12

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gauge. It's just going to have holes in

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it. It's all redacted. And I said, "And

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they're not going to put it out this

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week. It'll be weeks later." And that's

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exactly what they did. They had a report

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I felt like had some information in that

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was new to the public. And um and they

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um did what they always do. They hid it,

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covered it up. And then uh

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everybody saw that interview and I said

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on it I said um

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>> that's the one we were talking about

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bases in the ocean.

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>> No, no, no, no, no. That a different one

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as is totally different. I this is just

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out on the street corner and then I

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started getting calls from people

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literally all over the world. I mean

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I've I've talked to legislators in

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Russia over this issue and then people

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um people start just stop me on street

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corners and say, "Hey man, I really

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appreciate you going for disclosure. I

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have doctors tell me this. have lawyers,

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engineers. I have military people that

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have seen things that they can't

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describe. I've had members of Congress.

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You know, there's a few bullies in

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Congress. They'll make fun of me and say

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smart elic stuff. But put it out there

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to your people. It's over 55% of the

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American population feels like we're not

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alone. I mean, seriously, you go out

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there and look at those every night. My

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dogs, they got to take a leak. They

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never want to take a leak at like 9:00.

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It's always 3:00 in the morning. I look

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at those dadum stars, man. And the light

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from those stars left there before the

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time of Christ. And the light from some

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of those stars, the stars have already

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combusted. I mean, they're not even

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there anymore. You know, light years to

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us is is something that's hard to

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understand. And we are more we are just,

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you know, one grain of sand on a billion

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beaches. And I still don't think we're

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the best that God can do. I, you know, I

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just can't imagine we're his shining uh

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we're we're the one they put on the

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mantel. Oh, look. you made humans. Well,

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you know, we've kind of screwed things

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up. So, I I you know, and I and I read

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my Bible and a lot of the Christian

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folks knock me. They talk about it's

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demons and I say, "Well, I'm good with

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Jesus. I'm not worrying about demons.

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I'm not going to worry about that. I

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don't think they're demons. I don't Why

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would they? They don't have to fly

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around in some craft to to, you know,

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it's just to me it's it's hard to

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imagine." But the um the underwater

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thing was I was I was getting briefed by

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an it was a former admiral came into my

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office and Joe it was it was a very

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friendly conversation and I'm always a

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little couched because or a little I

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hold back a little bit because I think

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there's a scop going on with some of

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these departments. I was uh briefed by

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one of our alphabet agencies not long

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ago and the final thing was somebody

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said well why don't we got more

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information says we just don't have the

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funding for that congressman and you

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know it's a and I know they're reading

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the polling data and they're saying you

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know well let's shake loose the money

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tree for us and that's that's part of it

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too and I warn people about that but um

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I guess in a nutshell that's pretty much

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it.

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>> So when you first got in how long have

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you been in government for? Well, eight

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years in in um Congress. I was in our

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state legislature in Tennessee 16 years

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and then I was county mayor for eight

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years.

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>> So, was it when you got into Congress

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that you first started getting inside

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information about what's going on?

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>> Yeah.

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>> So, that was was that eight years ago or

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like when was that?

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>> Uh probably six years ago. Five or six.

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Let's see. It was during Trump's first

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administration. So, it would have been

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about eight years ago.

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>> And do you remember what it was? Do you

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remember how you were introduced to it?

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>> Uh yeah. Um, we we raised we just raised

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total hell about it and then why

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>> because it's a cover up. Nobody would

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give us information.

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>> What made you think it was a cover up?

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Why did you think that?

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>> I guess I just don't trust government.

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I've been in government most of my life

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and I just don't trust it. I don't

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>> I understand that. But like was there

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something that led you to want to pursue

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this particular subject?

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>> No, just it kind of pursued me after I

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did that TMZ interview. people started

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calling me and then people would um I

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would get phone calls from people for

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>> but the TMZ interview was fairly

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recently, right?

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>> No, no, no, no. That was that was one

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that was that was that was what started

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it all. It was seven or eight years ago.

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I'm sorry. I don't I didn't explain it

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very well.

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>> So, so then so but you had an interest

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from the time you were a child and then

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getting into government. What was like

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the first introduction where you had a

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an idea that there's something going on?

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>> When I started asking questions and um

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and we just get to run around

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>> like what kind of questions?

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>> Like um what is what is this? Where are

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you seeing these things? And we would

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get people I would I had I had an

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interesting meeting in my office um with

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some people that were like uh nationally

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known and they came by to see me and

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they just wanted to talk to me about it

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and I was um and and they started

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telling me things and then I had a group

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come to my house. I said y'all just come

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by the office in DC and we'll talk. They

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said we don't feel comfortable doing

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that. And they came by the house and

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they said can we hook up to your um

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television? And I said, "Well, sure."

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You know, and they hooked up the

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computer to it. And they were showing me

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um they were showing me objects that

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were flying at And

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granted, I'm not a, you know, I'm not an

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astrophysicist by any stretch of

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imagination, but they were showing me

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things that were flying at at speeds

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that were just that nothing compares.

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And the and the angles that they were

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taking would literally, and I've said

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this before, and it grosses people out,

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but it would turn you or me into a

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ketchup package. I mean, we, you know,

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you go this way and then boom, you're

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going this way. And we have no no

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capability of any of it. And now I've

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been briefed so many times from on and

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different different groups. Um, you

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know, you know, we've we scrub missions

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because these things are out there. We

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um and then we tell everybody that's

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involved to keep your mouth shut. And

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then if you're a pilot and you come back

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and say, "Hey, I've seen this." You

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immediately pulled off the flight line.

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I'm not a pilot or military person, but

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flight line um is what I call it.

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They're not able to fly and they're

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given a psych evaluation and they're

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given an 8h hour, they call it a

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debriefing. It's I've been told by some

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of the officers that have been involved,

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it's really just an interrogation and

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then you got that hanging on your record

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and

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>> so it influences them to stop.

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>> They just keep their mouth shut. I I

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literally had a guy tell me, Joe, that

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he um he said his um um recorder, it was

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an older style plane and he said, I

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think he said it was close to his right

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knee. And when he got that on his

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recorder, he started smashing it with

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his right knee to discombobulate it so

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that it wasn't even cuz he didn't want

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anything. He did not need it. He saw it.

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He didn't need it in in on his record.

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even if he saw it and it was on a dad

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gum tape, they they drag you in. And so,

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you know, myself, Luna, and um Matt

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Gates went down to Florida to be um

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briefed by Matt was told that some some

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pilots had seen some things and they had

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some photographs. And so, we go down

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there and and again, we go in. I told

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Matt, I said, "Matt, they don't give up

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this stuff easy. We're going to go down

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there and I have a bad feeling they're

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going to turn us out. turn us out. Well,

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we went down there and Joe, they briefed

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us on some very um very serious issues

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that they were dealing with with the

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Chinese and um and and communist

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infiltration and things going on um

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around around Florida in in in the

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ocean. And but they didn't never have

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the the uh they wouldn't bring the

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pilots in. Matt said, "Hey, I understand

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all this, but this is not why we came

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down here." And Matt's um you say what

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you want to about Matt Gates, but he's

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and he's a great orator and he's a great

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attorney and he just started failing on

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them. And he told him he said, "Here's

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what's going to happen. You're going to

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jerk me around." And I said, "I'm going

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to subpoena you all. We're going to call

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y'all back to Washington." And I

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remember looking over in the corner at

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the suits. And I and I said and I I

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called them spooks cuz they were

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obviously some sort of military

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intelligence or CIA. And I leaned over

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to Matt and I said, "The spooks are

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getting nervous, brother." Cuz they were

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kind of shifting around. And they shut

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us down. They said, "No, we're not going

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to do it." And Matt said, "I'm calling

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whoever big Air Force was." He Matt was

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on the um on one of the military

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committees. And he called and um hour

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later they stuck us up in this room and

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um had microphones under the desk. I

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remember Luna reached under and

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unplugged them. And uh um they had a

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nice fruit tray that you paid for it,

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taxpayers. Thank you very much.

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[laughter] So I went and it hit like a

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jackass eating saw browsers. I was just

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eating. I didn't care. And so um finally

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[clears throat] I came back in an hour

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and the guy says, "I don't know who you

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all called, but you're going to get your

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briefing. They're bringing the pilots

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in." And literally they brought these

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pilots in and they were in their um

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their flight gear and they had just come

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out of the planes and they were the ones

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and they they described things and it's

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been reported now. It's been imported in

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public but it was um these craft that

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were hovering for extended periods of

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times and could shoot straight up at

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incredible speeds that we don't have

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capabilities of doing. And those are the

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kind of thing and and too they're um

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this was military people. These were top

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people. These are like equivalent not

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you know they just some of our top

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people and I know folks are going to say

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well it's probably the Russians. Well if

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it's the Russians dad gamut they

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wouldn't be tied up down in Ukraine for

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how many years and and Putin's such an

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egoomaniac he'd fly a saucer to

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Pennsylvania Avenue get out and probably

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wrestle Trump in the front yard or

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something. You know bare chested ride a

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unicorn or something. I don't know. If

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it's China they'd own us even more than

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they already do. And then people say,

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"Well, it's ours, Burch. It's just ours

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that they don't want to release it."

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Well, think about this. President Trump

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and he should have, and I give him great

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credit for that, that pilot that got

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knocked down over in Iran, we spent

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untold millions of dollars to bring that

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cat home. And we should have because it

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sends a message to our enemies, and it

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sends a message to our fighting men and

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women that we're not going to leave you

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behind, as many presidents have done

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many times. There's no way on God's

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green earth that they would risk a half

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a billion dollar aircraft with something

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flying around it and um and and risk

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those guys' life and all that training

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to put these guys in harm's way. And

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that's and that's exactly what they're

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doing. I mean, these things were buzzing

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cockpits. It's it's not an everyday

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occurrence. It's in certain areas. And

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that's where the um the deep water thing

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comes in. The deep water bases. I was

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sort of misqued. I was just telling what

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I was told and um but it makes a lot of

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sense that that these deep water areas

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are where we see a lot of sightings and

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we see we've seen um

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craft underwater

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that do something over 200 miles an hour

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that on the sonar pickup are as big as a

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dad gum football field. The best we have

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we don't have anything big as a football

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field maybe in length but not in not

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underwater anyway. And uh I you know the

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best we can do is maybe upper 30 m an

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hour maybe something like that. I don't

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know but 200 miles an hour that's just

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out of the question. And um these things

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don't have a heat signature and

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I hope I hope though that they they

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release some of the footage that we've

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seen and some that we haven't that we've

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been rumored that's out there. What I'm

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afraid though it's going to get so

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sanitized and it's going to get cleaned

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up. I mean, even Obama, he said, "Yeah,

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there aliens out there." And then in a

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recent interview, I saw just the last

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week or so, he's backed up on that. I

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was just kidding. I was just kidding.

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You know,

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>> well, I saw Trump when he was getting

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interviewed, he said Obama should have

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said that because it's classified. He

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goes, "But I might release it. I might

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make it unclassified."

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>> And I hope he does. And I told him that.

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I talked to the president about it and I

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said, you know, Mr. President, it's like

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it's like layers of an onion. Just keep

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peeling it back. And I hope I hope he

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does because

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>> well he might be the only one that would

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ever

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>> only one with enough guts. Only one cuz

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he's not beholden to that bunch. All

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they done is try to bury him.

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>> Right.

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>> Yeah. So when these men came to you and

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they hooked up the computer to your

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television and showed you, did they tell

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you why they wanted you to see this

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stuff?

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>> They just thought I should know about it

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because I was asking the right

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questions. And then shortly after that,

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I was in in Go ahead.

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>> I'm sorry. Were you told that you were

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not supposed to tell people about this?

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Were you?

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>> No. But it's interesting. I had that

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deep throat moment, you know, not the

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porn version, the the um Richard Nixon

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moment, you know, where I was walking in

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the in the tunnel one day and a person

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came up to me and it's always a friend.

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It's always a friend that does this and

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said, it was just the strangest

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conversation and I'll never forget it

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because he said, "Burchett," he said,

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"Uh, you know, you're really pushing on

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this UFO thing." And I go, "Yeah, yeah,

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I am." He said, "Do you really think we

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need to do this?" And I just kept

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listening. I when I was a young man, id

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have run my mouth and said, "I'll shut

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up." But I listened to what he said. He

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said he said, "I mean, you know, this

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could upset the religious community and

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and all this other I mean, some of this

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stuff's just left unknown, you know."

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And I said, "No, it's not." And the

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government has no right to decide what I

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can and cannot understand or handle or

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see. And it to me and and every time,

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Joe, let me tell you what they're going

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to do. I had a two-page bill to for

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disclosure. And Chuck Schumer had one

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that was 60 pages, I believe, and he

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modeled his after the Kennedy

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assassination

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uh committee release, which we're over

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60 years into that. And we still don't

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they haven't released everything that on

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on President Kennedy getting shot. And

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that's what they wanted to model this

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dadum thing after. Mine was two pages

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long. Of course, mine didn't get

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anywhere. I was told by a member of

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leadership they come and sit with me. I

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call it cent's row. I sit on the back

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row, second from the back on the aisle.

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Everybody gets in trouble. They come sit

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with me sometimes. And um and I was told

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by a member of leadership that um that

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the intelligence community was unhappy

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with what I was doing. And then I got a

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phone call from um a former member of um

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President Trump's staff who told me that

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I needed to um I forget his exact

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terminology, but he said, "Oh," he said,

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"You need to get some bodies around

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you."

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>> So, you know, and I I don't know what

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that means. I mean, I'm the 435th most

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powerful member of Congress, Joe. So, I

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you know, they bump me off and it's

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going to be like they'll they'll

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there'll be one tear shed on the House

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floor. They'll be because I owed

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somebody $10. I didn't pay them back and

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then they'll move on to the next guy.

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So,

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>> well, I'm sure you're aware of this

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narrative about the missing scientists

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and scientists that have turned up dead

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and been killed

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>> 100%. That's real. I think um I have a

00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:11.359
theory on that. All right. I know it's

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it's a little dangerous to throw these

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things out, but and I and I I was on

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maybe Fox one time and I just came up

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with this. I say, say your family's

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mobbed up, okay? And y'all own a nice

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Italian restaurant and it's

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worldrenowned and you're you're busting

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at the seams, you know, and you're

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franchising and putting out cookbooks

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and everything. You got this one chef

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who's who's the kingpin of all of it,

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but you're afraid he's talking to your

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competitors.

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Now, you don't bump him off. What you do

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is you rough up a few of the bus boys

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and that sends a quick dad gum message

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that you need to shut your mouth. And I

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timing is everything and nothing happens

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by accident in Washington DC. To me, I

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think it's the timing is is it's uncanny

00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:59.038
that you got a president, you know,

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we've had these hearings in Washington.

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you have a president that says he's

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going to release stuff and all in that

00:19:02.798 --> 00:19:07.599
same time frame before and after that

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you're having some of these high um high

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ranking officials disappear and to me

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that's nobody disappears in this country

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unless they they want to disappear. You

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know, there's cameras everywhere and it

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Limited time offer. Yeah, I thought one

00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:46.079
of the things that I thought of is one

00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:47.359
of the subjects that these people were

00:20:46.079 --> 00:20:48.960
all they're all working on different

00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:50.798
things, but they're working on

00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:52.798
alternative energy sources.

00:20:50.798 --> 00:20:54.319
>> Yeah, that's that's the um that's the

00:20:52.798 --> 00:20:56.558
the I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you

00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:59.200
off, but that's what ties them together,

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I think. And and two,

00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:04.000
>> um their one of them spouse said, "Oh,

00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:05.759
my husband or wife or whatever did

00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:07.759
anything with UFOs." Well, they don't

00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:10.000
talk about it. It's actually

00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.599
>> it's a pretty close-knit group. And uh I

00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:13.759
always remember this. I knock on doors.

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That's how I got elected. Nobody really

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there's not a lot of people like me that

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are come from a family of public

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educators that get elected to Congress.

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All right? Most of my contributions are

00:21:20.558 --> 00:21:24.240
$25 and somebody wraps a Bible verse

00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:25.839
around it and and tells me they're

00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:27.120
praying for me. The big boys, they're

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always for me the day after the

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election. All right? They always say,

00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:30.879
"Hey, let me write you a check." And we

00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:32.400
were with you all along. I always say,

00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:34.640
"Yeah, I felt it right there towards the

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end." you know, but but I'm knocking on

00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:39.919
this guy's door down in Farragut and um

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and he he's putting his flag out. He's

00:21:39.919 --> 00:21:44.240
an older gentleman. And I said I said,

00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:46.000
"Hey, brother, did you serve?" And he

00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:47.038
said, "No, you know, I mean, it's East

00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:49.119
Tennessee, you know." And he kind of

00:21:47.038 --> 00:21:51.519
held his head down, "No, I didn't. Um I

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didn't." And I said, he said, "I worked

00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:55.359
at Oakidge." And I said, "Brother," I

00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:56.480
said, "My daddy was on Okinawa when they

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dropped the bomb. They were getting

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ready to invade mainland Japan." I said,

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"If my mom and daddy were alive today,

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they would hug you because that's they

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put it together." And he told me, he

00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:11.679
said, "Tim," before I left, he said, "A

00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:14.720
funny thing." He said, "My wife worked

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there, too." And you know, I did, she

00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:19.279
worked on a um I think he said he was a

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fuse or something and she was the worked

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on the timer on the atomic bomb. He

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said, "And I didn't know what she did

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the entire time that we were working

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there." That's called

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compartmentalization. And that's what

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you have here. And if I can elaborate

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just a little bit more,

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>> the um

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>> you you're familiar with FOYA. I mean,

00:22:35.038 --> 00:22:38.400
you're a member of the media freedom of

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information act. And it means I can I

00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:42.240
can request from a federal agency, the

00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:44.960
FBI, they probably wouldn't give it to

00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:47.839
me, but any information, but I can't go

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after like Ford Motor Company. Okay. So,

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what they've done is they've given this

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information, these whatever if it's

00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:55.119
craft, if it's material, if it's bodies,

00:22:53.038 --> 00:22:56.879
I don't know a lot. I I have my

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suspicions, but they've given them to

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there's four or five major contractors

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that you see that are always the ones

00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:04.319
that are that are putting it out there.

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There are missile defense systems.

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They're they're coming up with this new

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metallurgy, these new propulsion

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systems. And I think that whatever they

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had, they gave to them early on and they

00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:18.640
they're the ones, but they're so far

00:23:16.798 --> 00:23:20.798
disconnected from the government that I

00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:23.600
can't touch it. And the people that are

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working on it, there's nobody alive

00:23:23.599 --> 00:23:27.279
around was around Roswell or any of that

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stuff that was in and around those years

00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:31.279
that's still alive or still working. So

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all those people are gone. I mean,

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that's the best that's the best secret

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you can keep if you tell somebody and

00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:39.840
they die. And that's that's exactly what

00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:44.399
they've done. And uh you know, we've

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been given um places, addresses, and

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things, and everybody says, "Oh man, go

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to you need to get out to Area 51,

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Burchett, and see what's out there."

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There ain't nothing at freaking Area 51.

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Soon as we announce where we're going,

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the U-Haul vans would have already been

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there and left, you know, and um and so

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what it's going to take is it's going to

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take a scientist or somebody that's

00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:06.240
going to have to walk out of one of

00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:08.000
those dadgum labs before they're um

00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:09.599
allowed to commit suicide. by shooting

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themselves in the back of the head 10

00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:14.798
times um with a shotgun or something. Um

00:24:13.679 --> 00:24:16.480
and so

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>> do you know the Bob Lazar story?

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>> I do. I do. I've never met Bob. I know

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um a buddy of mine I guess um friend of

00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:24.399
mine I think sort of broke that story.

00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:25.119
Um

00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:28.080
>> George Knap.

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>> Yeah. Nap. Nap. I'm sorry. I um haven't

00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:31.918
slept much in the last 48 hours, but

00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.679
yeah, George. I met him through all this

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and it was a big honor because I grew up

00:24:33.679 --> 00:24:36.000
watching George Knap. He's a cool guy.

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>> He's awesome.

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>> I love him. He comes to my office and we

00:24:37.919 --> 00:24:43.038
hang out and I mean great people get,

00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:44.960
you know, they get kind of stareyed when

00:24:43.038 --> 00:24:46.558
they see somebody like yourself or Kid

00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:48.159
Rock or somebody, but for me it was

00:24:46.558 --> 00:24:49.519
George Knap because I mean, you know,

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cuz I asked him I'd ask him stuff. He

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goes, "Yeah, that was a report I did

00:24:50.798 --> 00:24:55.278
when and and because I've, you know,

00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:57.038
>> yeah, he's very careful about what he

00:24:55.278 --> 00:24:58.000
says, too. He's not a guy who says

00:24:57.038 --> 00:25:00.000
anything that he can't

00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:01.919
>> and he documents it." You ever seen his

00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:04.798
files? I mean, it's just um it's a

00:25:01.919 --> 00:25:07.278
myriad of files. He's very even keeled

00:25:04.798 --> 00:25:09.440
and fair in the way he assesses things.

00:25:07.278 --> 00:25:12.319
He's not hyperbolic. The way he

00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:14.000
describes things is like as clean and as

00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:15.839
accurate as possible.

00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:18.400
>> He's not trying to sell t-shirts really.

00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:20.000
I He's a true journalist. I, you know, I

00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:21.919
I wish other people would look at a guy

00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:23.038
like that and say that's the way we need

00:25:21.919 --> 00:25:24.799
to go with journalism.

00:25:23.038 --> 00:25:26.400
>> A real journalist who didn't start off

00:25:24.798 --> 00:25:27.839
with this whole UFO thing. He didn't

00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:29.600
want to do I mean, he was an actual just

00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:30.879
regular journalist until Bob Lazar

00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:33.918
contacted him. Y

00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:36.159
>> and that story um we've I've had Bob on

00:25:33.919 --> 00:25:39.200
a couple of times. In fact, this is how

00:25:36.159 --> 00:25:40.640
popular this idea is in the American

00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:44.159
Zeitgeist.

00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:45.919
>> The Bazaar episode of this ep of this

00:25:44.159 --> 00:25:47.039
podcast is the most viewed episode that

00:25:45.919 --> 00:25:47.600
I've ever had on YouTube.

00:25:47.038 --> 00:25:51.919
>> Is that right?

00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:52.719
>> Yeah. It's got 65 66 66 million views

00:25:51.919 --> 00:25:53.360
right now.

00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.720
>> Wow.

00:25:53.359 --> 00:26:00.558
>> Yeah. I mean, a guy who's just talking

00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:02.798
about how he used to work at S4, Area

00:26:00.558 --> 00:26:04.158
51, site 4, where he was back

00:26:02.798 --> 00:26:04.720
engineering UFOs,

00:26:04.159 --> 00:26:07.039
>> right?

00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:10.159
>> And there's a new documentary that he

00:26:07.038 --> 00:26:13.599
just did uh called S4 where they used

00:26:10.159 --> 00:26:17.039
CGI and they made models of the craft

00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:18.798
and they made him like they brought him,

00:26:17.038 --> 00:26:20.400
you know, they used this technology that

00:26:18.798 --> 00:26:20.639
makes it look like he's a lot younger.

00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:23.200
>> Yeah.

00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:25.840
>> And they showed like what his experience

00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:28.480
was. like completely recreated it and it

00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:30.879
down to a tea and I I Jamie and I got a

00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:32.880
chance to watch it with him with Bob and

00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:35.200
Luigi the guy who made the film and it

00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:36.559
was is I mean watching how emotional he

00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:38.880
gets when he's in the room he's like

00:26:36.558 --> 00:26:41.519
this is it this is this is I like it

00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:44.320
freaks me out it like brings me back cuz

00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.278
we're talking about 1988 1989 when all

00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:47.918
this was going on

00:26:45.278 --> 00:26:49.440
>> and he really you know I the last report

00:26:47.919 --> 00:26:51.919
I saw it was and somebody interviewed

00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:54.000
him in his house I mean he had like a

00:26:51.919 --> 00:26:56.400
mid80s Corvette or something, you know.

00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:58.240
He's not he not he hasn't cashed in on

00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:59.840
it like everybody else seems to do.

00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:01.519
>> No, he hasn't made any money off of it

00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:03.599
and he's still just a legitimate

00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:05.440
scientist. He runs United Nuclear Labs.

00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:09.359
He's, you know, that's what he does and

00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:11.038
he a brilliant guy and doesn't want the

00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:12.639
attention. Like I it was very difficult

00:27:11.038 --> 00:27:15.200
to get him to come back in a second

00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:16.720
time, you know, and he wanted to wait

00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:18.720
until this documentary was out and come

00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:20.079
in and talk again, but he got freaked

00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:21.600
out. He drank a lot of whiskey, you

00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:23.038
know. He was like he gets weirded out by

00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:24.959
it all. It's all like [clears throat] to

00:27:23.038 --> 00:27:27.038
him the whole experience was very

00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:28.480
surreal and strange and

00:27:27.038 --> 00:27:30.558
>> well you got you got to figure he's the

00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:32.798
one that escaped from all of it and is

00:27:30.558 --> 00:27:34.399
still alive and somehow he got out and

00:27:32.798 --> 00:27:35.839
was able to do it before they could

00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:37.440
silence him. They tried to discredit

00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:39.759
him, said he didn't work there. And then

00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.200
I think he produced check stubs even.

00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.400
>> Well, not just that. They tried to

00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:44.319
pretend that he never worked at Los

00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.840
Alamos Labs, but he was on the employee

00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:46.879
roster. There was there was a lot of

00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:49.199
stuff going on where they tried to

00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.480
discredit him. But he went public

00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:52.159
because he was afraid they were going to

00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:54.319
kill him. You know, cuz the initial one

00:27:52.159 --> 00:27:55.840
that he gave a fake name and he was a

00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:58.079
silhouette and he told his story, but

00:27:55.839 --> 00:28:00.000
then his home got broken into, his car

00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:02.240
was getting broken into, he got shot out

00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.679
on the highway. It got real weird. And

00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.960
so he said, "Look, I've got to go

00:28:03.679 --> 00:28:06.640
public." like like it might be the only

00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.640
way to protect myself and he told the

00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.679
whole story and he hasn't deviated from

00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.840
that story

00:28:09.679 --> 00:28:14.240
>> and that's that's what's really kind of

00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:15.599
crazy cuz it's been you know what 40ome

00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:17.278
years or close to

00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.678
>> these guys they ask those questions you

00:28:17.278 --> 00:28:21.359
know they always oh yeah well and they

00:28:19.679 --> 00:28:23.360
say was it red no it's green and then

00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:25.519
they were adamant that it was red 10

00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:27.599
years ago everything about him has been

00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:29.359
that he and I' I've seen

00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:31.678
>> um there was a documentary on him and

00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:33.278
they asked somebody to analyze him uh

00:28:31.679 --> 00:28:34.159
you know was he telling the truth or not

00:28:33.278 --> 00:28:35.599
and he

00:28:34.159 --> 00:28:37.919
I think he's telling the truth.

00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:39.278
>> Yeah, it doesn't seem like he's lying.

00:28:37.919 --> 00:28:40.640
But I mean,

00:28:39.278 --> 00:28:43.038
>> of course, I'm in the business. I'm in

00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:44.634
Congress. So, yeah, he's an amateur.

00:28:43.038 --> 00:28:45.519
We're professionals up there, brother.

00:28:44.634 --> 00:28:47.120
[laughter]

00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:48.720
You only think you can tell a lie.

00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:50.398
>> Yeah. They're not very good at it. The

00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:54.240
people in Congress that are liars, the

00:28:50.398 --> 00:28:57.439
problem with liars is they don't really

00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:59.278
have a good understanding of the truth.

00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:02.480
Because if you're lying all the time and

00:28:59.278 --> 00:29:05.200
you're forging this like fake narrative,

00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:07.200
people see that and so that when you try

00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:09.360
to say it as the truth, it doesn't come

00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:10.640
off like the truth. There's a feeling

00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:13.038
that people get when they talk to you.

00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:14.799
Now, there's some real crazy people that

00:29:13.038 --> 00:29:17.119
are that could just lie. Like really

00:29:14.798 --> 00:29:18.798
insane. But generally, they lie about a

00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:20.398
bunch of stuff. They don't just have one

00:29:18.798 --> 00:29:22.720
lie from 1989.

00:29:20.398 --> 00:29:24.879
>> The term pathological comes to mind. I'm

00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.798
Yes. You know that that bass was this

00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:29.120
big, you know. [laughter]

00:29:26.798 --> 00:29:30.879
Well, his story though, one of the

00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:33.519
interesting things is he was talking

00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:36.640
about the ways in which the craft moved

00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:39.359
and then decades later we have footage

00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:40.880
that shows these crafts rotating in the

00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:42.879
direction that they want to travel then

00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:45.039
zooming off. And then of course there

00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:48.640
was the Commander David Fraver incident

00:29:45.038 --> 00:29:51.440
off the coast of San Diego in 2004. And

00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:53.440
if that was our technology, the the

00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:56.960
thing that puzzles me is if we had

00:29:53.440 --> 00:30:00.080
something in 2004 that can go from

00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:02.480
50,000 ft above sea level to sea level

00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:05.359
in under a second.

00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:07.440
I can't imagine that 22 years later

00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:10.158
there would be no advances that it would

00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:12.240
have leaked through into mainstream

00:30:10.159 --> 00:30:14.159
technology. Well, the energy just along

00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.599
that the energy it's um you know, we'd

00:30:14.159 --> 00:30:18.480
heat our homes in the winter and cool

00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:20.240
them in the summer, but then again, I

00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.079
always throw out the war pimps. I'm not

00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:24.079
my my daddy fought for this country and

00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.678
I'm I'm not and you know, that's their

00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:29.759
business is war and their business is

00:30:25.679 --> 00:30:32.880
very good. Um they they will quickly um

00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:35.038
you know, stand up and and and trash a

00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:37.760
guy like Favor. Um he was um he

00:30:35.038 --> 00:30:39.759
testified before our committee and I I

00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.881
was I was taken by what he said I know

00:30:39.759 --> 00:30:42.640
him pretty well now but we um

00:30:41.881 --> 00:30:47.600
[clears throat] you know we had the

00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:50.640
committee which was crazy. Uh we uh me

00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:52.000
and Luna and um a bunch of others got

00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:53.840
together and said, "Man, we got to do

00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.640
this committee. This is we need to do

00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.918
this." And so I went to the chairman and

00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.320
he said, [clears throat] "Sure." And

00:30:57.919 --> 00:31:03.520
then they sort of blew it off. And then

00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:04.960
then they want and I go see the staff of

00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:06.798
these committees. And that's that's the

00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:08.880
that's the real problem in Washington.

00:31:06.798 --> 00:31:11.519
Reagan said it best. Don't don't term

00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:13.840
limit politicians. Term limit staff. You

00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.519
know, I go in there and I'm told, "Yeah,

00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:17.839
well, I think we want to just talk about

00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:19.440
this Chinese hot air balloon is what we

00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.278
want to really talk about." I said, "No.

00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:24.720
Hell no. That's not excuse my language.

00:31:21.278 --> 00:31:27.278
Heck no. Um, we want to um we want to

00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:29.200
talk about dadum UFOs." What people are

00:31:27.278 --> 00:31:31.679
calling us about constantly. I mean, it

00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:34.319
was just getting so much airplay. And

00:31:31.679 --> 00:31:36.320
then, um, I was told by some old-timers,

00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:38.398
which was kind of cool. They said that,

00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:40.000
you know, Tim, I've been here, some of

00:31:38.398 --> 00:31:41.599
them been here 10, 15 years, and said

00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.880
that was the most attended committee

00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.719
that they could remember. They had to

00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:46.960
open up another room so people could be

00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:50.960
there. I walked out, I was on Fox that

00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:53.200
morning, and um u I I was going out. I

00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:55.360
left my office at 4:30 in the morning

00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:57.440
and I was outside and I remember it was

00:31:55.359 --> 00:32:00.319
hot because it was summertime and there

00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:02.159
was people already outside lining up

00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:03.759
that had come from all over the country

00:32:02.159 --> 00:32:06.000
on their own dime. I mean these weren't

00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:07.759
like wealthy people. I mean one guy said

00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:09.519
this is our vacation this year. were

00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.200
coming to this Dadgum committee meeting

00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:14.399
and and Joe they were lined up around

00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:17.440
the hall around everywhere and um that's

00:32:14.398 --> 00:32:19.839
where I met Sean Ryan and um a bunch of

00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:21.759
people and it was just it was amazing to

00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:23.199
me and that's when Congress started

00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:24.960
paying attention to it because they

00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.840
realized the voters are paying attention

00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.120
to it.

00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:29.038
>> Yeah. I mean that might be the only way

00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:31.918
to put pressure on them. the the thing

00:32:29.038 --> 00:32:33.440
about the alternative energy sources.

00:32:31.919 --> 00:32:38.159
What one of the things that I was

00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:40.320
thinking is that if you were involved in

00:32:38.159 --> 00:32:42.720
whatever petroleum like what whatever

00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:44.720
your business is and there's something

00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:46.000
put them out of business and the

00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:47.839
Pentagon that was my point on the

00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:49.278
Pentagon it would put them out of

00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:51.038
business put the oil companies out of

00:32:49.278 --> 00:32:53.519
business because they would even showing

00:32:51.038 --> 00:32:55.599
a dadum hate signature. You know, if a

00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:57.038
if a blackbird flies across my farm,

00:32:55.599 --> 00:33:01.038
it's going to put out a dum heat

00:32:57.038 --> 00:33:03.038
signature. And and through the um uh all

00:33:01.038 --> 00:33:05.119
the technology we had, you know, as they

00:33:03.038 --> 00:33:06.398
called them, the the tic tac

00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:08.079
>> tic tacs. Yeah. They look like the

00:33:06.398 --> 00:33:08.798
little little mint. And um and that's

00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:10.720
what they were.

00:33:08.798 --> 00:33:12.798
>> That's what Commander David Fraver saw.

00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:14.480
>> Yeah. And not only saw, but there's

00:33:12.798 --> 00:33:17.038
video footage of it. There's radar

00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:19.519
footage of it. It's exhibiting travel

00:33:17.038 --> 00:33:21.278
that's just beyond comprehension for

00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.720
modern technology, for current state

00:33:21.278 --> 00:33:25.519
technology. 100%.

00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:28.159
>> But if these people were working on some

00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:31.038
sort of new energy source or some sort

00:33:28.159 --> 00:33:33.360
of new propulsion system, and you've got

00:33:31.038 --> 00:33:35.839
to imagine there's a very small amount

00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:38.240
of people that are on the cutting edge

00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:41.359
of whatever this stuff is. If this is

00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:44.319
like groundbreaking technology that's

00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:46.319
not known by mainstream

00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.918
physicists or whoever's working on it

00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:50.158
and you only have a small group of

00:33:47.919 --> 00:33:53.360
people, if you whack one of them, you

00:33:50.159 --> 00:33:55.039
put a big stop to any progress,

00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:57.599
especially if you get the main people,

00:33:55.038 --> 00:33:59.919
the lead scientist, and that guy winds

00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:00.959
up getting assassinated or winds up in

00:33:59.919 --> 00:34:02.559
>> disappears. Yeah.

00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:04.640
>> Disappear. The one lady was the weird

00:34:02.558 --> 00:34:05.759
one. So, she's walking with her

00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:08.398
>> Was she hiking or something?

00:34:05.759 --> 00:34:10.719
>> Yes. walking with her friend. Uh her

00:34:08.398 --> 00:34:12.638
friend turns around and talks to her and

00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:14.319
then walks a little further, turns

00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:17.838
around to say something again and she's

00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:20.240
gone. Just gone. And they bring in dogs.

00:34:17.838 --> 00:34:21.679
They have cadaavver dogs. They they

00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.918
can't find her. There's no trace. No

00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:25.760
one's seen her since. And this lady was

00:34:23.918 --> 00:34:28.319
apparently, wasn't she, Jamie? Wasn't

00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:30.800
she involved in some sort of alter

00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:34.159
alternative technology? Alternative?

00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:36.079
>> Yeah, I think she she metallurgy was her

00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:38.000
deal. So you think these

00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.800
>> whatever this craft or whatever have to

00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:41.119
be

00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:43.519
>> something and I you know I I said this

00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:45.280
earlier on one time and it made a lot of

00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:47.358
sense. I was surprised that something I

00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:48.800
said did but it sort of stuck. You know

00:34:47.358 --> 00:34:50.639
it's like well why don't they just bring

00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:52.000
it all out now if they've got it. I

00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.919
don't think we've got the technology to

00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:56.960
figure out what the heck it is. Like I

00:34:53.918 --> 00:34:58.799
ride motorcycles. I got an old 47 Indian

00:34:56.960 --> 00:35:00.960
Chief. If I were to take that thing back

00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:02.800
to the when they came over in the

00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:04.320
Mayflower, right? You know, they would

00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:06.480
see it and think that's kind of unusual.

00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:08.079
They might worship his as a god. I know

00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:11.358
I sometimes do when I go out to the

00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:13.440
garage, but but uh but you know, they're

00:35:11.358 --> 00:35:14.960
going to they're not going to be able to

00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:16.480
adjust the valves. They're not going to

00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.679
know what the heck spark plug is. They

00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:19.199
probably wouldn't be able to figure out

00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:21.118
how to make a fuel with a high enough

00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:21.519
octane for the thing to kick over,

00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:24.480
>> right?

00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:26.480
>> Um and and I think that and they might

00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:27.838
polish it. They might get it started.

00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:30.159
And I think that's sort of where we're

00:35:27.838 --> 00:35:32.719
at with this stuff, Joe. I think it's uh

00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:34.078
I I think a lot of them have something

00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:34.719
and they just don't know what the heck

00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.400
to do with it.

00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.679
>> Well, that's Bob Lazar's take on it. And

00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:40.559
that was his take on it when he was

00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:42.960
working there in 1989. He said they

00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:45.119
understood how to turn it on. They

00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:47.599
didn't exactly understand how it worked

00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.519
or what it did. And they wanted him to

00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:52.400
try to figure it out. those guys that

00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:54.800
came to my house um they they talked

00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:57.280
about that and how these something could

00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:59.280
travel at these light years and and um

00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.640
one of them was an astrophysicist and

00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:03.920
and I don't really understand

00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:05.679
astrophysics but um it took me six years

00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:07.519
to get out of UT and I didn't drink or

00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:08.319
smoke pot so I'm just going to elaborate

00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.639
a little bit here if [laughter] that's

00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:12.559
all right with you brother have a degree

00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.920
in shop technological adult education I

00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.679
can fix your lawn mower I can burn your

00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.760
house down if you need it wired but I'll

00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.440
always have a job but so you got

00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.440
something vibrating ating over here and

00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:22.720
then instantly it's over here, right?

00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:24.400
>> And that that's sort of the way they

00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:26.000
explained it, put it on my level to

00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.440
understand it. And I mean to me it

00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:29.440
proves that there's a God. I mean

00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:32.480
because it's an instantaneous travel

00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:34.559
that we don't quite comprehend. Now is

00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:37.519
there friction involved? Is and and

00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:39.358
that's where the um um when they see

00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:43.199
these blobs out there that are floating

00:36:39.358 --> 00:36:44.799
around um they um that are lit up. I've

00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:48.159
had several people tell me about that

00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:50.640
how these um there was one incident

00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:55.199
where they surrounded a group of our

00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:57.519
aircraft and um and it was dur and a lot

00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:58.879
of them deal with nuclear weapons. It

00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:01.039
seems that we're around some nukes.

00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:03.760
We've had I always remember I went in

00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:05.358
and um it's been a long time since you

00:37:03.760 --> 00:37:07.040
had a man bun. So I'm going I'm going to

00:37:05.358 --> 00:37:09.759
knock on this. had this bureaucrat with

00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:11.279
a dad gum man bun telling telling me I

00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:13.040
asked him about a certain incident and

00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:14.560
he said we don't have data points on

00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:16.159
that congressman and I said what about

00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:17.440
this deal and he said I don't know what

00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:19.759
you're talking about I said well google

00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:22.480
it everybody in the world knows about we

00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:24.960
had a we had a nuclear power plant that

00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:26.480
had these things fly over and the dad

00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.480
gum thing shut down I mean it's been

00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:31.760
documented it has been documented

00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:33.199
unequivocally and you know and and

00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:34.720
that's that and then then you have

00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:36.159
members of Congress go well they said it

00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:38.399
didn't exist so we're out you know, I'm

00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:41.598
good. And I'm like, no, no. I'm sitting

00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:45.039
there reading these officers that are

00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:47.119
obviously very I read people. God gives

00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.119
us all a gift. My gift is reading

00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:50.480
somebody. And I was reading these these

00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.800
military officers and, you know, they

00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:54.079
had the full in they had all of it. You

00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:56.000
know, they'd been serving for a while

00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:57.599
and some of them had done some things.

00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.920
And um I could just sit there reading

00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:01.680
them. They're thinking this little twerp

00:37:59.920 --> 00:38:03.358
right here beside me. I'd choke him out

00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:05.279
if I could. You know, I mean, they were

00:38:03.358 --> 00:38:08.000
just like they were angry. No, not at

00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:09.920
me. At him at him because they wanted to

00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:12.320
tell something and this was a Biden

00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:14.400
appointee and you know it just

00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:17.280
>> and and and and that's a lot of the

00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:19.920
times we I was in one situation I'll

00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:22.560
just call it where they sent somebody in

00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:27.200
basically just to disrupt and you know

00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:29.199
to throw at a at at at a witness and um

00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:31.598
and that witness just it was like a he

00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:33.279
was like a pro ball player hitting

00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:35.519
T-ball man. He was just knocking them

00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:37.680
out of the dad gum park every said what

00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:39.119
about and he gave a date and he said oh

00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.799
you're talking about this incident well

00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:43.039
let me tell you what happened there and

00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:44.880
and he would go through everything and

00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:47.119
it was and it was beautiful it was

00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:49.680
beautiful and then he got disgusted and

00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:51.519
end up leaving the meeting and you know

00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:53.759
and and that's they they send people in

00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:55.679
to disrupt they're just not going to

00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:57.599
turn and I don't know if the fact that

00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:59.440
and and the corruption in Washington DC

00:38:57.599 --> 00:39:01.519
is not like it used to be you know it's

00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:03.200
not like oh I got a picture of you

00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:05.759
sleeping with some hooker over in

00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:07.039
Istanbul, you know, oh, make copies. I

00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.480
want to take it to my buddies. I mean,

00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:12.159
that's about the that's about what you'd

00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:15.679
get now. But way it is now is I think is

00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:18.239
that some members have a family member

00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.000
or a wife and or girlfriend that could

00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:21.279
work for one of these groups

00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.039
>> and they're told,

00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:25.040
>> "Hey, you want to keep your dad gum job

00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:27.279
or you want these pictures to come out

00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:29.519
or whatever? I we need a little help

00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:31.119
here." And then they go disrupt and come

00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:33.599
into the committee meetings and ask

00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:35.280
ridiculous questions to try to get a a

00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:37.200
partisan fight going.

00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:39.440
>> And maybe some of them do it unbeknownst

00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:41.519
to them what they're being told to do,

00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:42.480
but they do it because they're they're

00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:44.239
just lap dogs.

00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.679
>> So there's a strategy where they have a

00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:48.959
bunch of people that they sort of

00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:50.639
compromise as disruptors and they

00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:53.280
>> and they are compromised. Exactly.

00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:55.118
That's the word. I I was on a I'm going

00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:58.079
to say another one. I was on the Benny

00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:59.039
show early when he was early on and um

00:39:58.079 --> 00:39:59.680
and I was talking

00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:00.639
>> Johnson.

00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:03.358
>> Yeah. Yeah.

00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:05.838
>> Um and so um he's been very kind to me

00:40:03.358 --> 00:40:06.880
and so he um he asked me about how do

00:40:05.838 --> 00:40:08.480
they do it and I said, "Well, they used

00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:10.880
to do this thing called the honeypot.

00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:12.639
You know, they you'd go to some you go

00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:15.280
on I never go on trips. The only trip

00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:18.319
I've ever been on a Kodell was to uh the

00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:21.440
border down here uh down in Texas. And I

00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:23.359
um I went down for one day, flew down

00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.039
here, saw the border, saw all the people

00:40:23.358 --> 00:40:26.639
coming over the border, got in an

00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:28.960
airplane, flew home. I was it was about

00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:30.639
18-hour trip. It wasn't any luxurious. I

00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:32.480
stayed in a room that my buddies at the

00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:34.319
frat house would have probably asked for

00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:35.760
our money back in. It was pretty rough,

00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:39.838
you know. Got some good barbecue,

00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:42.560
though. But anyway, so I um these guys

00:40:39.838 --> 00:40:43.838
go on these trips and say you're sitting

00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:46.159
down at the bar. I mean, you're a

00:40:43.838 --> 00:40:48.000
good-looking guy. some girl comes up to

00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:50.000
you or some guy, whatever your interest,

00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:52.000
whatever your proclivities are and

00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.280
laughing at your jokes and you know,

00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:54.159
next thing you know, you're up in the

00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:54.640
bedroom,

00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:56.159
>> right,

00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:57.519
>> naked with them. And then you think,

00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:59.759
man, I pulled off the great I pulled

00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:02.079
this off. I was with this smoke show and

00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:04.079
my wife and kids don't know about it and

00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:06.318
I'm just going to, you know, me I'm just

00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:07.440
just me just between me and the Lord.

00:41:06.318 --> 00:41:10.480
And then you know you're getting ready

00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:12.880
to make a key vote and one and a staffer

00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:14.159
comes up or or a lobbyist or something.

00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:16.079
You're in the hall and says, "Hey,

00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:17.519
congressman said 'Yeah man, how's it

00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:19.599
going?" I said, 'He got this big vote.

00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:21.280
Yeah, but I I'm not for y'all on this

00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:24.079
one. Okay, we understand. He said, "Hey,

00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:26.319
um were you in a motel room in in

00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:29.119
Istanbul with a pretty red head one

00:41:26.318 --> 00:41:30.480
time?" And they and they say, "Man, I

00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.760
don't want that out. It'll wreck my No,

00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:33.599
we don't want it out. We don't We just

00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:35.680
need your help." And that's how they

00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:37.280
sink their claws into you. They used to

00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:38.719
and they might do that now. But I was on

00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:42.079
the Benny show and I was talking about

00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:44.480
that. Oh man, I caught it from I mean as

00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:46.000
leadership and members, man, everybody

00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:47.679
thinks we're sleeping. I said I didn't

00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:50.079
say everybody. I just said some of y'all

00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:51.679
are. I said, you know, don't don't and

00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:53.440
every day you can there's a new one

00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:57.519
getting in trouble. So it's not any big

00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:59.358
secret. Um 435 of us. So

00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:02.800
>> you get 435 people. You're going to have

00:41:59.358 --> 00:42:05.199
a few freaks in there. Ouch. [laughter]

00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:06.318
435 group of any human beings.

00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.000
>> Yeah. Any you go to

00:42:06.318 --> 00:42:10.480
>> especially, you know, if you can

00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:11.838
compromise a man with beautiful women,

00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:13.519
it's not that hard to do.

00:42:11.838 --> 00:42:15.119
>> Or if they're if they're gay and they

00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:17.280
don't want it out in their in their

00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:20.079
public or whatever. So

00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:22.640
>> I I said this to Benny and and I and I

00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:24.318
caught it and then about a week later a

00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:26.480
week later and I I said it's probably

00:42:24.318 --> 00:42:28.800
the Chinese, the Russians or something.

00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:30.079
They busted a Chinese prostitution ring.

00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:32.400
And what did they list as their

00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:36.079
clientele? [laughter]

00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:37.039
Lobbyists, government employees, and

00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:37.599
politicians,

00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:39.440
>> of course.

00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:41.838
>> And then what happened the next week?

00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:43.920
That story went away. And Benny had does

00:42:41.838 --> 00:42:46.239
this thing. He showed me walking out and

00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:47.920
he like I throw a match and the and the

00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:49.519
whatever behind me just burst into

00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:52.079
flames and I'm walking out, you know.

00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:53.759
It's really cool. And um uh he also did

00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.519
a song of me singing Dad Gum, which is

00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:57.200
my cuss. I don't cuss, I say Dad Gum.

00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:59.599
and he did that. But anyway, but that

00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:01.679
was my point is that they use this stuff

00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:03.920
and they know what we want. They, you

00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:06.000
know, these guys, these countries, they

00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:07.838
know uh they own the internet, so they

00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.519
know which porn you look at at your in

00:43:07.838 --> 00:43:11.279
the privacy of your home that you think

00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:13.440
you're, you know, you got this private

00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:15.599
name on your freaking computer and they

00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:17.679
know, you know, and so that's what

00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:19.359
they're going to hit you with. So

00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:22.078
anyway, that's that's a long story, but

00:43:19.358 --> 00:43:23.920
it's I think mostly it's just jobs now.

00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.680
>> Mostly jobs and influence and figuring

00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:26.800
out Well, you think about you get a dirt

00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:28.399
bag, you're going to get him to sleep

00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:30.000
with some hooker. You know, that that's

00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:32.240
going to happen, you know, eventually,

00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:33.760
too. But I just don't I don't know if

00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:35.838
it's that prevalent. And I had a

00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:37.680
lobbyist tell me one time,

00:43:35.838 --> 00:43:39.199
>> he was uh his name was Tom Hensley. He

00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.799
was the golden goose. He was a liquor

00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:42.639
lobbyist in Nashville, Tennessee. And he

00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:44.640
was a caricature of what a lobbyist is.

00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:47.519
He three-piece suit, big old cowboy

00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:50.000
boots, smoking a cigar. And we were at

00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:51.440
the Crown Plaza. He liked me because I

00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:53.119
never would vote for his liquor bills,

00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:57.679
but I never would vote for a tax on them

00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:59.200
either. So, um he he um he we were there

00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:01.279
and the guy from the governor's office

00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:02.639
came and just chewed both of us out, you

00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:04.960
know, just treated me. I'm a legislator

00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:06.719
and he was treating me like a dog and I

00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:09.199
and he and Goose is sitting back there

00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:10.959
and he had that fancy Jack Daniels black

00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:12.879
label or whatever it is that the fancy

00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.039
version of it is cuz he represented Jack

00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:17.200
Daniels made in Tennessee. And he pulls

00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:20.239
that big $5 cigar out of mouth and he

00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:22.159
goes, "Burch it." He goes, "Governors

00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.838
come and go, but the old goose will be

00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:25.199
sitting right here." And he said, I

00:44:23.838 --> 00:44:26.719
said, 'What are he gonna do? Is he gonna

00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:28.078
shut you down, man? All these, you gonna

00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:30.959
tell these people stuff? He goes,

00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:32.720
Burgett, I just need one chairman. I

00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:34.240
don't need the whole in one body of the

00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:36.159
house, you know, the House or the

00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:38.159
Senate. I just need one chairman that'll

00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:39.358
listen to me. And he wasn't saying he

00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:41.199
never did anything crooked in front of

00:44:39.358 --> 00:44:43.358
me and he never offered me any bribes or

00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:45.358
anything, right? But that was a good

00:44:43.358 --> 00:44:47.119
lesson to learn as a young man when I

00:44:45.358 --> 00:44:48.799
was in the state legislature. Well, if

00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:51.039
you just think about how much money

00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:53.680
Congress people wind up leaving office

00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:54.079
with, just that alone is incentive to

00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:55.358
play ball.

00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:57.599
>> Wait a minute. You don't mean you don't

00:44:55.358 --> 00:45:00.639
think we're making 16,000% on our own

00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:03.200
knowledge? [laughter]

00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:05.920
>> I got my daughter called me a while back

00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:08.078
and said, "Dad, um, and she's super

00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:10.079
smart. She's do anything. I'm

00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:12.560
veterinarian doctor. I brain surgeon.

00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:14.318
She's crazy smart. I married my wife and

00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:16.078
adopted her. My wife was a widow, so

00:45:14.318 --> 00:45:17.519
genetically she's not mine. But when she

00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:20.000
gets into trouble, my wife says, "That's

00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:21.759
all you, Tim Burton." But she's a

00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.679
exceptional little girl. And she said,

00:45:21.760 --> 00:45:26.560
"Dad, I think I'd just like to cut

00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:28.719
hair." And I was like, "Right on, girl.

00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:30.400
You go undo it." And u and that's what

00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:32.879
she does. I mean, she's she's going to

00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:35.440
school to do that. So, I cashed out my

00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:38.079
$11,000 portfolio, which was a mutual

00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:40.079
fund because I think and I don't own any

00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:41.440
individual stocks, but I think that

00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:43.760
members of Congress ought to do that.

00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:45.679
That was my bill. You don't own more

00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:48.000
people, Joe. more people have played

00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:51.279
professional baseball than have ever

00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:54.079
been in in Congress. Um, you know, it's

00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:55.920
it's a very it's a very tight it's a

00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:57.519
very and I tell people if you don't get

00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:59.760
off that dad gum plane and look at that

00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:01.280
capital and get chill bumps, you need to

00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:03.119
get your butt back on that plane and go

00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:05.040
home because we don't need you there.

00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:06.960
And everybody knocks on Pelosi and I

00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:09.119
know that. But out of the top 10, you

00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:10.960
know where she is in the in the amount

00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:11.920
of trades,

00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:14.559
>> where is she at?

00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:14.800
>> Number 11. She's not even in the top 10,

00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:16.719
dude.

00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:18.560
>> Well, she should get a better PR person.

00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:18.959
>> It's crazy cuz everybody uses her as an

00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:20.719
example.

00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:23.519
>> I know, but she don't care. I mean, if

00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:25.279
you were making 16,000%, would you care?

00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:26.480
>> Oh, I would be a little concerned that

00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:27.920
someone would come for me.

00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:29.760
>> Ah, she's all right. She

00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.720
>> Well, it's just bizarre that it's legal.

00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:33.920
That's the most bizarre.

00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:35.759
>> Oh, it's it's it's it's not right. It's

00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:37.358
not right, but it's it's it's legal. And

00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:39.520
I just said, "Look, you cash out

00:46:37.358 --> 00:46:41.119
everything. You put it in a mutual fund.

00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:43.119
And I know they got this bill and

00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.640
everybody's all fired up for it. And I'm

00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.800
not a I'm don't know what I'm going to

00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:48.799
do about it. I'm bill. They got a new

00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:50.960
bill. They don't like my bill. Mine and

00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:52.640
Luna's bill that says that you um you

00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:54.079
can't own individual stocks. Just own a

00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:56.480
mutual fund. They're going to let you

00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:58.560
keep your portfolio. So, and some of

00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.119
these cats got a $20 million dad gum

00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:02.078
portfolio.

00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:04.318
>> And they made $170,000 a year, which is

00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:07.519
amazing. Imagine the average person out

00:47:04.318 --> 00:47:09.279
there making $170,000 and all a sudden

00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.800
they make

00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:12.160
>> a hundred million

00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:14.400
>> in the stock market.

00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:16.480
>> And we're we're involved

00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:18.559
and I not all of them are crooked. Some

00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:21.119
of them are they are geniuses. I've been

00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:22.799
in Congress with some real geniuses but

00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:24.880
you know if you see I'll give you a case

00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:27.119
in point. All right? And I've said this

00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:29.440
many times and nobody's

00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:30.800
uh come after me and said you know they

00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:32.639
told me to quit saying it but I don't

00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:34.240
care. I got a dag on first amendment. I

00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:35.920
don't care. They can't they come to

00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:41.039
knock to East Tennessee and try to beat

00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:42.318
me. But but they um if if uh uh I forgot

00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:43.199
what I was saying now, man. I've lost my

00:47:42.318 --> 00:47:44.159
mind. I guess that's part you're going

00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:46.480
to have to cut out.

00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:47.920
>> Oh, no. It's We're talking about insider

00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:50.480
trading. We're talking about the amount

00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:52.318
of money that people generate.

00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.960
That's where we're at. We're talking

00:47:52.318 --> 00:47:54.559
about

00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:55.199
>> genius. Someone's a genius. Really good

00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:56.719
at it.

00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:58.480
>> Yeah. I'm trying to think. I forgot it.

00:47:56.719 --> 00:47:59.679
I've got so many oneliners in my head,

00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.960
Joe. [laughter] I should have written

00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:04.879
all these down. Written all these down.

00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:06.240
But anyway, um they they all not not all

00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:08.720
of them are crooked. Some of them are

00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:10.639
are really are that good. But I'm sure

00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:14.318
>> but Oh, I know what it was. It was it

00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:16.159
was um uh when Russia and invaded

00:48:14.318 --> 00:48:18.400
Ukraine. I haven't voted for a dime for

00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:21.358
that. It's not our dad gum war. I don't

00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:24.240
I I keep keep my dollars here. We need

00:48:21.358 --> 00:48:26.880
to defend our own dad gum borders. Well,

00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:28.879
Joe Biden, for better for worse, gave

00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:31.280
Ukraine basically our missile defense

00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:33.920
system. So immediately we had to

00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:35.920
replenish our missile defense system.

00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:39.119
Now who do you think owns stock in that

00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:40.400
in those missile defense systems?

00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:40.880
Members of Congress.

00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.960
>> Yeah.

00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:46.480
>> Members of Congress. And apparently some

00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:49.119
of them had bought it at at fairly close

00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:50.318
to those time periods. And so

00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:52.079
>> I don't know. Are they doing something

00:48:50.318 --> 00:48:52.800
crooked? I don't I mean you can't prove

00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:54.480
it.

00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:56.318
>> Well, if it's not crooked, they know

00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.880
things that would help them.

00:48:56.318 --> 00:49:00.960
>> And I just they are remove all reproach.

00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:02.559
And if you if you got a $20 million

00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:04.159
portfolio or whatever, some probably

00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:06.880
have more than that, you know good and

00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:08.159
dad gum well, you're going to vote. It's

00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:11.680
in the back of your mind, you're going

00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:12.318
to vote to make my my investment worth a

00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:16.480
little more.

00:49:12.318 --> 00:49:20.558
>> Yeah. So, the possibility of financial

00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:22.480
windfall would probably make people play

00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:23.760
ball,

00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:26.480
>> which makes sense. Which makes sense.

00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:28.800
Sure. Human nature. You got you got guys

00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:32.880
up there that are that, you know,

00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:34.400
they've got they got expenses at home,

00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:36.480
got a couple kids in school, got

00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:38.720
payments on a house, you know, and

00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:39.679
>> $170,000 doesn't go as far as it used

00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:42.879
to, I guess.

00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:45.838
>> And they just human nature. You want

00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:47.680
more. People want more. They they want,

00:49:45.838 --> 00:49:48.880
you know, whatever it is.

00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:50.639
>> And a lot of times it's not them

00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:52.720
investing, it's their,

00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:55.118
>> you know, their wife or their spouse.

00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:58.318
And we've seen cases of that where,

00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:59.680
>> you know, a 16-year-old kid is

00:49:58.318 --> 00:50:01.519
>> doing pretty well,

00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:03.279
>> right? And it's a child of someone who

00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:04.639
has some inside information. There's

00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:08.480
something that just came out yesterday

00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:11.679
about Roana, this a guy Kevin Bass uh on

00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:14.480
Twitter posted this big long he this

00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:16.078
examination of his stock trades and how

00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:18.960
much money he's made and how he's made

00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:21.839
it and what he's done. And there's I

00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:24.000
mean it's just all over Congress. It's

00:50:21.838 --> 00:50:24.400
you have inside information. That's what

00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:26.719
it is.

00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:27.039
>> That's disappointing. I know, Ro. But,

00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:27.838
you know,

00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:29.519
>> I don't know if it's true.

00:50:27.838 --> 00:50:31.599
>> Yeah. I don't know. I mean, you could

00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:35.199
pull it up if you want, Jamie. It's uh

00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:36.720
Kevin Bass, B A S. It's Bass or Bass.

00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:39.039
I'm not sure how to pronounce his last

00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:41.279
name, but he made this very detailed

00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:43.920
post about it. But, I mean, that's just

00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:47.680
one example of one person who's

00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:49.599
profited. I'm sure it's probably minor

00:50:47.679 --> 00:50:50.879
in comparison to the other 11 that are

00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:53.119
ahead of Nancy Pelosi.

00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:55.920
>> I sleep on my couch in my office and I

00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:58.000
shower in the gym. I don't have a place.

00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:00.240
I can't afford it. It's too expensive up

00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:02.318
there. I was so When I got elected with

00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:04.078
a guy one time and he said when we got

00:51:02.318 --> 00:51:06.079
elected, he said, "Hey Burch, I just

00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:07.680
paid $1.2 million for this place. What

00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:09.680
do you think?" And I know he was just

00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:11.358
bragging to me, you know, because I no

00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:13.440
way I could do something like that. And

00:51:11.358 --> 00:51:14.719
he said, um, and I said, "Well, probably

00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.318
in a couple years they're going to say,

00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:17.919
I can't believe you only paid $1.2

00:51:16.318 --> 00:51:19.599
million for it because, damn, the price

00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:23.838
of that that real estate up there is

00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:26.079
just crazy. It is crazy." And

00:51:23.838 --> 00:51:26.960
it's a rich man's game. It is really a

00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:28.960
rich man's game.

00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:31.280
>> And the problem with being around rich

00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:33.039
men is even if you're rich, you don't

00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:35.440
feel like you're rich if you're in

00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:37.119
comparison to them. And so if you're

00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:38.720
worth a couple million and this guy over

00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:39.680
here is worth 50, you're like, "Damn, I

00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:41.519
got to up my game.

00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:44.078
>> I got to up my game." you're in this

00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:45.440
sort of culture, this culture of a bunch

00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:47.440
of people that are investing a bunch of

00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.358
money and making a bunch of returns and

00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:50.639
>> and I I'll tell you one it was a public

00:51:49.358 --> 00:51:52.159
meeting. I remember it was in

00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:53.838
transportation that we dealt with some

00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:56.719
technology in an airport and it was

00:51:53.838 --> 00:51:59.759
pretty cool and um I just asked the

00:51:56.719 --> 00:52:02.078
question I said uh is that is your stock

00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:03.760
publicly traded? And you know, I looked

00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:05.599
I was watching people see what they did.

00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:07.920
Then they all looked up, you know, and I

00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:09.626
thought, note to self, call my broker

00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:11.646
when I walk out of here. You know,

00:52:09.626 --> 00:52:11.646
[laughter]

00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:17.280
>> it's just very odd that that has been

00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:17.599
legal for so long. That's what's very

00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:19.359
odd.

00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:21.599
>> It's disgusting. And all here's what

00:52:19.358 --> 00:52:23.440
we're going to do. We'll pass some bill

00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:25.039
and the Senate will pass another bill or

00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:26.880
phone just won't take it up, which is

00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:29.279
we're seeing a lot of now. won't take

00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:32.160
anything up and it'll die and we'll all

00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:34.240
go back back to um our people and say,

00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:35.838
"Oh, look, I tried to do this. I voted

00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:38.399
for this bill, but you know, I didn't

00:52:35.838 --> 00:52:40.239
get a I didn't get a dead gum break, you

00:52:38.400 --> 00:52:42.960
know, and and look how tough we are."

00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:45.439
And and or or you know, and and they'll

00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:47.199
all be up at Kenny Bunkport sipping

00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.599
expensive wine and toasting each other

00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:51.039
on their great financial choices.

00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.960
>> That's where Bush is from, right?

00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:54.239
>> I don't know. I think so. Yeah. Yeah.

00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:54.720
>> I think they're from Kenny Bunkport,

00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:56.318
Maine.

00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:58.558
>> Yeah. I just threw that one out. It's

00:52:56.318 --> 00:53:00.159
the only place I could think of, Myrtle

00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:01.359
Beach, South Carolina for somebody like

00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:03.519
me would be pretty cool.

00:53:01.358 --> 00:53:06.318
>> So, one of the things about this uh

00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:08.079
disclosure thing, um the documentary uh

00:53:06.318 --> 00:53:08.800
Age of Disclosure. Yeah. And you're in

00:53:08.079 --> 00:53:10.800
that.

00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:12.400
>> Um it's really great. If you haven't

00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:15.599
seen it, folks, and you're interested in

00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:18.000
the UFO phenomenon, one of the

00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:20.559
fascinating uh aspects about age of

00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:22.159
disclosure is you got all these insider

00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:23.440
people that are all talking about all

00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:24.879
these different experiences that people

00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:30.000
have had and all this stuff that people

00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:33.358
know. And one subject came up that made

00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:35.679
a lot of sense and it was that if there

00:53:33.358 --> 00:53:38.558
have been back engineering programs and

00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:41.838
they've have had access to all this

00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:44.559
technology and they've had crashed

00:53:41.838 --> 00:53:46.558
vehicles and biological entities and

00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:48.240
they've been all these programs studying

00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:50.319
this for so long they had to have

00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:52.000
funding. So if they had funding that

00:53:50.318 --> 00:53:53.119
means they had to lie to Congress. So if

00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:54.639
they had a lie to Congress there's

00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:56.880
misappropriation of funds. So you're

00:53:54.639 --> 00:54:00.078
talking about massive fel felonies. So

00:53:56.880 --> 00:54:01.039
if they don't have some sort of amnesty,

00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:02.640
and this is one of the things that's

00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:05.519
pushed throughout this entire

00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:07.519
documentary is that we need some kind of

00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:09.440
mass amnesty.

00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:10.880
>> I'm a very skeptical person. I see

00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:13.440
something like that, I'm like, "Okay, I

00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:17.358
see what you're doing. You are talking

00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:19.599
about UFOs so you can get some sort of

00:54:17.358 --> 00:54:21.519
amnesty for misappropriation of funds."

00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:25.119
And that might just be straight up

00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:26.960
fraud. There might be fraud and theft

00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:29.280
and you might have moved money into

00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:31.440
offshore accounts and there's must might

00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:34.160
a bunch of shady and you could say,

00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:38.000
"Oh, but we'll tell you some very

00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:39.440
obscure information about UAPs." I don't

00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:40.079
like that term because it was always

00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:42.159
UFOs.

00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:43.359
>> UFOs. That was that was a misdirection.

00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:45.199
I hate that term.

00:54:43.358 --> 00:54:47.759
>> Why do we need a new name? We've already

00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:50.558
had that name forever.

00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:51.839
UFOs is fun. UAPs makes me this feels

00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:55.200
sanitized. [snorts]

00:54:51.838 --> 00:54:58.960
>> But if they can give you some

00:54:55.199 --> 00:55:00.639
you know, semi shady information. Now

00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:03.199
you've got amnesty. Now you've got

00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:06.400
amnesty. And you've got amnesty for

00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:07.519
decades of misappropriation of funds. So

00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:09.920
maybe

00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:12.159
>> some of it is real. Maybe a lot of it is

00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:13.760
real. Maybe a lot of it is really back

00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:15.440
engineering programs. Maybe they really

00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:18.160
have been doing these things. and maybe

00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:20.079
they can give us slowly trickle down

00:55:18.159 --> 00:55:21.759
some insight as to what's going on.

00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:23.359
It'll probably take forever if you ever

00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:25.359
get anything out of it. But in the

00:55:23.358 --> 00:55:29.119
meantime, all these people that have

00:55:25.358 --> 00:55:31.519
made who knows how much money in shady

00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:33.358
ways with all this misappropriation of

00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:34.559
funds and now they're not in trouble

00:55:33.358 --> 00:55:36.799
anymore.

00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:38.720
>> Yeah. Representative Eric Berles has a

00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:41.039
bill to do just that and it was but it's

00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:42.639
it's whistleblower protection is the way

00:55:41.039 --> 00:55:46.079
you need to go about that. M

00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:49.440
>> and um and and he can't he's tried to

00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:51.119
get it attached to bills and he we just

00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.480
won't allow it. They won't allow it or

00:55:51.119 --> 00:55:53.760
they put it on and kill it in the

00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:55.838
Senate. You know, it's the same old

00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:57.680
game, Joe, [snorts] back and forth. So

00:55:55.838 --> 00:56:01.199
then the other problem that's brought up

00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:06.399
in age of disclosure is say if you do

00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:08.239
have a retrieved craft from wherever

00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:10.000
another planet another dimension

00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:13.199
whatever it is from the ocean whatever

00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:15.760
it is and you need to study this thing.

00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:17.039
What where are you bringing it to? Most

00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:18.720
likely you're going to bring it to a

00:56:17.039 --> 00:56:19.519
weapons manufacturing company

00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:21.279
>> 100%.

00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:22.639
>> And so if you do that well what about

00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:24.400
the other companies? They don't have

00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:26.239
access to that. Well then they can sue.

00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:28.000
are thinking why didn't I get access to

00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:31.598
that sort of technology why does this

00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:34.480
person you've damaged my business or you

00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:36.318
know what have you and also people have

00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:39.199
probably lied under oath about whether

00:56:36.318 --> 00:56:41.920
or not those things exist or what where

00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:43.279
they got certain technologies

00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:46.559
I mean there's a bunch of different

00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:48.160
reasons why you could see why logical

00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:49.680
reasons why you could see why they would

00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:51.598
try to try to put the brakes on

00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:54.558
disclosure and try to put some blockades

00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:56.640
up and try to obiscate and make things

00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:58.400
much more difficult to get through.

00:56:56.639 --> 00:57:01.039
>> I agree

00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:02.960
100%. And that's why I think these folks

00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:04.318
disappearing and dying unexpect

00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:04.639
unexpectedly are

00:57:04.318 --> 00:57:06.719
>> Yeah.

00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.519
>> are delivering some of those messages.

00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:10.159
>> Yeah. It's

00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:11.519
>> and members of Congress will um you

00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:13.759
know, several of the people that have

00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:15.920
been involved that are really heavily

00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:17.599
into it now, they were real skeptics. We

00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:19.200
kind of brought them in. I needed some

00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:21.599
skeptics. It couldn't just all be a

00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:24.078
bunch of folks that thought like I did.

00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:25.680
and um and they're now not skeptics.

00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:26.720
>> Can you give me some examples of like

00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:28.239
how that happened?

00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:30.879
>> Yeah. Uh well, we had a committee

00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:34.399
meeting and um my buddy Eric Burlson for

00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:36.318
instance, he was he was a skeptic and um

00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:38.720
and and I mean I'm a skeptic of a lot of

00:57:36.318 --> 00:57:42.400
it myself, but I just have been studying

00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:45.199
for sedum along and he um you know he he

00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:48.079
was in the committee and and he's asking

00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:50.239
very poignant sharp questions which is

00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:54.318
what you're supposed to do in a hearing.

00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:56.399
and um he you know he's he's one of the

00:57:54.318 --> 00:57:59.119
biggest advocates now for total release

00:57:56.400 --> 00:58:01.119
of every of everything matter he's he's

00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:02.960
always at the forefront of writing

00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:06.559
legislation when we're doing something

00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:08.798
we're always me him and Luna um Jared

00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:11.839
Moscowitz and the and the on the

00:58:08.798 --> 00:58:13.679
Democrat side is is involved in it a lot

00:58:11.838 --> 00:58:16.719
and uh you know and and other members

00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:18.399
will come in and say hey can um I want

00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:20.000
to be read into this committee or what

00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:22.880
which means they can come on when we do

00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:24.798
the UFO stuff, but nothing really had

00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:27.519
the impact as that first committee

00:58:24.798 --> 00:58:29.759
meeting. And I told people at the end of

00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:31.679
it, I was recognized at the end. I said

00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:33.200
the one thing about and Nancy Mace, of

00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:36.318
course, she's involved with as well. And

00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:37.919
one thing um at the end I said, you

00:58:36.318 --> 00:58:39.920
know, find I just want y'all to know

00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:42.960
that that people do believe you. This is

00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:46.000
not some crazy far out thing. And you

00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:48.720
all are have a right to be skeptical and

00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:51.440
and and ask questions of your government

00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:52.639
and get these answers because

00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:54.960
we're not going to give it to you

00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:56.960
without without y'all without y'all

00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:58.559
being there and raising these questions.

00:58:56.960 --> 00:59:00.000
>> Well, there's too many stories from too

00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:01.839
many credible people, too many people

00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:03.599
like Ryan Graves, too many people like

00:59:01.838 --> 00:59:05.279
Commander David Fraver. There's too many

00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:07.039
people that you just go, I don't know

00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:07.280
why this person would lie about this one

00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.119
thing.

00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:11.760
>> Can Can I tell you one that I got on?

00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:17.440
Um, I was in the state legislature with

00:59:11.760 --> 00:59:19.680
a guy and uh and he was watching um

00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:21.599
Unknown Aliens or something and they

00:59:19.679 --> 00:59:23.279
they film you one time and then they use

00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:23.680
you for like three years. Ancient

00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:26.000
Aliens.

00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:27.440
>> Ancient Aliens. I'm sorry. Great. I love

00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:29.599
that show. I love those guys. They're

00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:33.039
all great. I love it. I love it.

00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:34.798
>> Shout out to Giorgio Giorgio Suclair.

00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:36.159
>> I love that guy. He's I think he's

00:59:34.798 --> 00:59:38.719
Greek. I need to get him to Knoxville

00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:40.318
for for the Greek festival. But anyway,

00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:44.798
he'd [snorts] be a rock star there. But

00:59:40.318 --> 00:59:46.558
so, um, uh, again, we're, you know, I'm

00:59:44.798 --> 00:59:48.000
losing my my train of thought here, Joe.

00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:49.200
I don't even smoke weed and I'm losing

00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:50.559
my train of thought. What were we

00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.879
talking about here? I hope you edit some

00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:54.720
of this cuz I look We're talking

00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:56.000
about disclosure. We're talking about

00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:57.679
things that people see.

00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:59.679
>> Yeah. Yeah. I was telling you about So,

00:59:57.679 --> 01:00:02.000
I'm I pick up the phone and buddy of

00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:03.199
mine says, "Timbo." And I recognized the

01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.880
voice. I said, "Hey, brother. What are

01:00:03.199 --> 01:00:06.798
you up to?" We were in the state house

01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:08.436
together. He said, 'I just saw you on

01:00:06.798 --> 01:00:10.079
Ancient Aliens.' And I said, 'Okay.'

01:00:08.436 --> 01:00:11.039
[laughter] And I thought, here it comes.

01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:12.640
You know, [snorts] hey, you've been

01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:14.639
probed lately. You know, you get that

01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.598
stuff from some of the guys gals in

01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:17.838
Congress.

01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:19.519
>> And he said, "Can I tell you a story?"

01:00:17.838 --> 01:00:20.639
And I said, "Sure, buddy." And his voice

01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.559
kind of got quiet.

01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:25.039
>> And I remember he hollered at his wife.

01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:27.839
He said, "Hey." Said her name. He said,

01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:29.599
"Uh, when what year was that?" Is when

01:00:27.838 --> 01:00:31.119
he was in the Navy. And she said it was.

01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:33.200
And she gave the date. It was I think in

01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:35.519
the 50s. And [clears throat] he was out

01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:37.118
on a boat. and I don't know, you know,

01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:39.039
battleship from an aircraft carrier, but

01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:42.240
anyway, he's out on a boat and they were

01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:44.000
arming a sub with um with nukes. It was

01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:46.479
in the early part of that where the subs

01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:48.639
could launch nuclear weapons and they

01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:51.199
were all out on the deck and all of a

01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:54.000
sudden it got there's just a cloud over

01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:57.358
them. He said he looked up and he saw

01:00:54.000 --> 01:01:00.798
this humongous saucer in the air and he

01:00:57.358 --> 01:01:02.880
said he said Timbo he said if that thing

01:01:00.798 --> 01:01:05.199
wasn't two block if that thing wasn't

01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:07.358
two blocks long I I'll kiss your butt

01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:09.519
and I said and and he described it to me

01:01:07.358 --> 01:01:11.598
you know he said he gave the color and

01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:13.838
he and it was the classic saucer he said

01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:16.400
there was lights coming out of portals

01:01:13.838 --> 01:01:18.558
around it and he said it made no noise

01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:21.519
whatsoever and it just sat there and

01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:24.240
hovered and they just looked up at it

01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:27.440
and then it just went it just went

01:01:24.239 --> 01:01:29.919
straight up. No noise, no nothing, no

01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:32.000
anything. And um I mean I was just like,

01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:34.720
"What the heck was that?" You know, and

01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:37.760
so when they get back to port, [snorts]

01:01:34.719 --> 01:01:39.358
the guys in the suits come on the the

01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:41.040
you know, the so-called men in black. I

01:01:39.358 --> 01:01:43.199
just they're just spooks CIA or

01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:44.719
something and told them they said, "This

01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:48.000
is national security. if you talk about

01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:49.679
this uh we'll um you'll be in

01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:51.760
Levvenworth the rest of your dad lives

01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:53.199
busting rocks and back then that you

01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:54.880
know nobody the cell phone wasn't

01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:55.358
invented Al Gore hadn't invented the

01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:56.160
internet yet.

01:01:55.358 --> 01:01:58.960
>> What year was this?

01:01:56.159 --> 01:02:01.440
>> It would have been in the uh the 50s

01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:04.159
late 50s late 50s I believe [snorts] or

01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:06.159
early 60s. So, and then but he gave me

01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:09.519
some descriptions and after this came

01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:11.440
out, I mean my phone, Joe, every day

01:02:09.519 --> 01:02:13.039
when this started breaking, I would get

01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:14.720
somebody would call me and send me

01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:16.719
pictures of something, you know, that's

01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:18.239
like a reflection or something, you

01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:19.358
know, and oh, come out to my house. All

01:02:18.239 --> 01:02:21.039
right, I'm afraid I was going to end up

01:02:19.358 --> 01:02:22.639
in a freezer in North Carolina or

01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:24.023
something, you know, [laughter] be

01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:24.879
somebody's dinner. And I was like,

01:02:24.023 --> 01:02:26.079
[snorts] I don't want to go out there

01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:28.160
and look at it. Just send me a picture

01:02:26.079 --> 01:02:29.760
of it. And every day, but then I get I

01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:32.798
got a call from a guy who was Air Force

01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:35.599
and I and I I Googled him. He's legit.

01:02:32.798 --> 01:02:38.719
And he told me about a um a sighting he

01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:41.519
had. He was out um they were out fishing

01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:43.279
um in Florida and and it was near where

01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:47.039
one of the military bases was and this

01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:49.040
thing and he described exactly what my

01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:52.639
buddy had seen and this he saw this in

01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:55.440
the um I think the early 80s and or late

01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:57.838
70s and he described this craft that was

01:02:55.440 --> 01:03:00.159
just hovering and it was just going

01:02:57.838 --> 01:03:01.759
along and these then you know it was

01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:03.279
just going on a pretty good click and he

01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:05.280
said these jets were trying to keep up

01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:07.253
with it. he could tell by the, you know,

01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:09.359
because he's an Air Force guy and

01:03:07.253 --> 01:03:12.559
[snorts] he was an officer and um it was

01:03:09.358 --> 01:03:17.598
legitimate and I've since read the story

01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:20.000
that he told, but um but it was it was

01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:22.559
strangely identical

01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:25.039
>> in the the the color,

01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:28.798
>> the you know, the texture was it was an

01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:30.000
off gray, I believe. And um and but it

01:03:28.798 --> 01:03:31.599
didn't really matter, but it was just

01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:34.318
the same one that they said. could have

01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:37.760
been chartreuse for all I know. But they

01:03:34.318 --> 01:03:41.038
um but the the the size and the uh

01:03:37.760 --> 01:03:43.839
circumference and the um the the dome on

01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:46.319
top and the port holes and just

01:03:43.838 --> 01:03:48.318
everything was just very very similar to

01:03:46.318 --> 01:03:51.038
what this guy had told me about just a

01:03:48.318 --> 01:03:52.960
few weeks prior. And you when you see

01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:55.440
identical things of people that have no

01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:57.119
contact with each other to me that that

01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:58.559
says something. And with these pilots

01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:00.240
they're risking their careers to come

01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:03.200
forward. And those engineers in Age of

01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:04.719
Discovery that come forward, their their

01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:04.960
reputations and everything are on the

01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:06.480
line,

01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:07.760
>> right? These aren't rich people. They

01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:09.838
can't just retire.

01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:11.599
>> No. And they're good folks. I've hung

01:04:09.838 --> 01:04:13.759
out with them when came when they had

01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:16.960
the world premiere, which was something

01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:19.599
else. Me standing on a red red carpet. A

01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:20.798
little out of place in that

01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:23.680
at at a film festival.

01:04:20.798 --> 01:04:27.519
>> Yeah. No, I'm sure I avoid those things.

01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:30.480
They're weird. But this uh this subject

01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:32.639
when you talk about them uh appearing

01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:35.440
over bases, appearing over aircraft

01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:37.838
carriers, appearing over submarines that

01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:40.000
have nuclear capability,

01:04:37.838 --> 01:04:41.440
it kind of makes sense that if you were

01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:43.440
from another planet or you're from

01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:46.079
another dimension or wherever it is and

01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:48.000
you're monitoring what seems to be the

01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:50.160
most intelligent species and the most

01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:52.639
capable species on the planet that when

01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:55.759
they would get access to something like

01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:57.759
that, like all The UFO sightings ramped

01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:58.880
up considerably after World War II.

01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:00.160
After we dropped the bombs.

01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:03.680
>> After we dropped the bomb.

01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:05.759
>> Yeah. There was a considerable amount of

01:05:03.679 --> 01:05:08.719
activity. You know, that's when Kenneth

01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:09.839
Arnold first saw those things and talked

01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:11.598
about them as flying saucers.

01:05:09.838 --> 01:05:13.199
>> Called them flying saucers.

01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:15.359
>> Washington State. Is that what that was?

01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:16.960
They look like said they look like stone

01:05:15.358 --> 01:05:17.920
skipping across the look like little

01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:21.519
saucers.

01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:24.559
>> Yeah. So that's where the term first got

01:05:21.519 --> 01:05:26.798
introduced into the modern world. And

01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:28.559
then you see so many of them and then

01:05:26.798 --> 01:05:30.480
you hear these stories about them going

01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:33.760
flying over nuclear bases and hovering

01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:35.440
over and shutting down the equipment and

01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:37.280
just the fact that they would hover over

01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:40.079
that submarine and then take off. Just

01:05:37.280 --> 01:05:42.559
to let you know like that's what we can

01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:44.000
do. It was probably a smart move if you

01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:47.440
if you don't want to completely

01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:48.880
intervene and like kidnap people and

01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:50.240
shut down the government and land on the

01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:53.838
White House lawn and freak everybody

01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:55.598
out. What better way than to take

01:05:53.838 --> 01:05:57.199
something that's completely isolated

01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:58.318
like a submarine in the ocean where you

01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:00.558
know everybody's going to lock

01:05:58.318 --> 01:06:04.079
everything down top secret and just show

01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:07.920
yourself and just like hey like

01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:10.240
we're here we're here and we are

01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:11.280
watching everything so don't do anything

01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:13.598
stupid

01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:16.960
>> you know you talked about that that that

01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:19.039
issue or episode I remember when they um

01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:21.039
at first I've never been invited back of

01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:23.100
course but the um intelligence committ

01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:24.240
committee when they did the UFO thing

01:06:23.099 --> 01:06:26.239
[snorts] and there was they had these

01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:29.279
all these seats and it was an open to

01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:31.358
the open to the everybody, Congress and

01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:33.440
the press and everybody and they had all

01:06:31.358 --> 01:06:35.119
these seats behind these this white bl

01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:38.720
this white guy and this black guy who

01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:41.119
were appointed to oversee the UAP issue

01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:42.639
which um and I remembered I thought I'm

01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:44.880
going to get there early, get the seat

01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:46.879
down front and I sat right behind those

01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:48.318
guys and nobody else showed up. I was

01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:51.519
the only member of Congress outside of

01:06:48.318 --> 01:06:53.759
the members in the in the um in on the

01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:55.759
committee. And Joe, those guys couldn't

01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:59.280
spell UFO. I mean, they were

01:06:55.760 --> 01:07:02.079
intelligent. They were um I'm sure

01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:04.240
they're patriots. They had no clue about

01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:07.200
anything. So, there's questions asked

01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:08.719
about certain incidents and uh we don't

01:07:07.199 --> 01:07:10.159
know anything about that, you know. And

01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:12.318
I thought to myself, that's when the

01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:14.480
compartmentalization

01:07:12.318 --> 01:07:16.159
uh came to in my mind, how they

01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:17.679
compartmentalize that stuff because to

01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:19.279
them, they could take a lie detector

01:07:17.679 --> 01:07:21.199
test and say, I don't know anything

01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:22.640
about it. Because they are kept away

01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:24.558
from it. It's like they're looking down

01:07:22.639 --> 01:07:26.719
the barrel of a .22 rifle, man. It's

01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:28.480
just a little bitty area and they don't

01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:30.078
get outside that area and they don't ask

01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:30.880
questions and they don't unless they're

01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:32.400
told.

01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:33.599
>> And if you want to keep your career,

01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:35.280
that's how you have to operate

01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:37.680
>> and your pension and everything else.

01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:40.000
Absolutely. It makes sense. That that

01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:44.639
aspect of it makes sense. Um what

01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:47.519
doesn't totally make sense is why now

01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:49.759
disclosure other than [snorts]

01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:51.679
um I mean this is being cynical. The

01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:53.359
Iran war is not going very well.

01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:54.480
American public's very upset. A lot of

01:07:53.358 --> 01:07:55.598
people don't think we should have ever

01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:57.599
been involved in that in the first

01:07:55.599 --> 01:08:00.240
place. And we need some good news.

01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:01.838
>> I think we um some I

01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:03.919
>> we need something to distract us. We

01:08:01.838 --> 01:08:05.440
need something to take our focus off of.

01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:07.039
If I was gonna do it, now would be the

01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:09.119
time I'd do it. Yeah. But yeah,

01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:10.480
>> I I don't think Trump really even cares.

01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:10.720
I think he just wants to get it out

01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:12.079
there.

01:08:10.719 --> 01:08:14.239
>> Well, I think he does, too. You know,

01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:14.640
he's talked about it. Like, and he's

01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:15.598
also

01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:17.519
>> I mean, no, I mean, I don't think he

01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:20.000
cares about

01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:22.319
um trying to get a everybody off off

01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:24.238
target, you know, by by disclosing UFOs.

01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:26.080
I think he cares about all of it, but I

01:08:24.238 --> 01:08:28.158
don't think he cares that if they're

01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:30.798
talking about it or not. I just think he

01:08:28.158 --> 01:08:32.559
he genuinely sees that America needs to

01:08:30.798 --> 01:08:35.600
know this stuff. Well, he also realizes

01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:37.120
America wants to know it and he's an

01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:39.520
outsider. I mean, even though he's the

01:08:37.119 --> 01:08:42.079
president, he is in a lot of ways he's

01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:43.679
an outsider. And

01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:45.039
>> I mean, this is his last term,

01:08:43.679 --> 01:08:46.319
>> right? And so, it's like if you're going

01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:48.319
to if someone's going to do it, do it.

01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:50.560
You want to leave a legacy, be the guy

01:08:48.319 --> 01:08:52.400
who releases all these files.

01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:55.679
>> I tried to kill him three times. Yeah.

01:08:52.399 --> 01:08:57.679
So, you know, it's not and that ain't no

01:08:55.679 --> 01:09:00.079
>> Did you see that judge that apologized

01:08:57.679 --> 01:09:03.119
to the guy that Did you see the story?

01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:04.798
>> No. Okay. The guy who was at the White

01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:06.399
House correspondents dinner that shot

01:09:04.798 --> 01:09:08.880
one of the Secret Service agents and the

01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:11.119
guy got arrested. Yeah. The judge who's

01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:14.056
dealing with the case apologized to him

01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:14.238
for his treatment in jail.

01:09:14.056 --> 01:09:15.759
[laughter]

01:09:14.238 --> 01:09:16.318
>> Do you have that, Jamie? See if you can

01:09:15.759 --> 01:09:17.838
find that.

01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:18.239
>> He should have gotten some quality stick

01:09:17.838 --> 01:09:21.679
time.

01:09:18.238 --> 01:09:24.000
>> This is another guy. This judge also uh

01:09:21.679 --> 01:09:25.600
released another man who was arrested

01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:27.439
for threatening to kill Trump.

01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:29.279
>> Oh,

01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:30.399
Trump derangement syndrome is real,

01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:33.279
dude. It's ridiculous.

01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:36.318
>> But the way this guy addressed this man,

01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:37.679
it's almost as if he was condoning it.

01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:38.880
Look at it. Says, "The indictment comes

01:09:37.679 --> 01:09:40.560
the day after the judge overseeing the

01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:42.960
case against Allen expressed grave

01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:45.120
concerns about how he's being treated in

01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:47.039
jail and apologized to him in court."

01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:49.198
You're talking about a guy who showed up

01:09:47.039 --> 01:09:49.920
with a rifle or a shotgun.

01:09:49.198 --> 01:09:51.919
>> Shotgun,

01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:53.920
>> shot a Secret Service agent, obviously

01:09:51.920 --> 01:09:55.679
in the vest. The guy's okay. But

01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:58.880
whatever you've been through, I

01:09:55.679 --> 01:10:02.640
apologize for the prior week. Magistrate

01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:04.640
Judge Zia Farukqui, I don't know if I'm

01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:06.239
saying that right, said during a hearing

01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:07.679
in Washington DC on Monday. According to

01:10:06.238 --> 01:10:09.599
the court documents filed over the

01:10:07.679 --> 01:10:12.640
weekend, Allan had been in solitary

01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:14.480
confinement oh poor baby at the DC jail

01:10:12.640 --> 01:10:16.640
after being placed on suicide watch

01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:18.799
after his arrest on April 25th. His

01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:21.280
lawyers said that he was housed in a

01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:23.119
permanently illuminated safe cell with

01:10:21.279 --> 01:10:25.198
no access to personal items or jail

01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:27.679
visits despite repeated assessments

01:10:25.198 --> 01:10:31.198
showing he did not exhibit any suicide

01:10:27.679 --> 01:10:34.158
factors. In an order issued on Sunday,

01:10:31.198 --> 01:10:36.399
uh Farooqi uh wrote that he had grave

01:10:34.158 --> 01:10:38.319
concerns about the conditions Allen was

01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:41.039
being kept in, which he said were

01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:43.359
seemingly unprompted by the facts of the

01:10:41.039 --> 01:10:45.519
case. It could drive a person crazy to

01:10:43.359 --> 01:10:48.960
be in that situation. Fugly said during

01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:52.960
Monday's hearing that is really crazy.

01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:56.319
>> That is that is really a crazy thing to

01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:58.480
apologize for someone who was trying to

01:10:56.319 --> 01:10:59.679
at least assume you're you're assuming

01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:02.000
he was trying to kill the president.

01:10:59.679 --> 01:11:04.319
>> The guy's been programmed to do this. He

01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:06.800
immediately turns,

01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:10.479
you know, from one way to the other

01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:12.000
overnight almost. And this is and we're

01:11:10.479 --> 01:11:12.158
seeing this more and more. I think I

01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:13.039
think

01:11:12.158 --> 01:11:13.920
>> What do you mean the guys have been

01:11:13.039 --> 01:11:16.238
programmed?

01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:18.480
>> I think these people are um [snorts]

01:11:16.238 --> 01:11:19.198
>> You mean like MK Ultra type programming?

01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:19.599
>> 100%.

01:11:19.198 --> 01:11:20.960
>> Really?

01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:23.440
>> I think so. But it's a different, you

01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:25.600
know, MK, you're the expert on it.

01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:27.678
>> Um, not really. Well, don't say that.

01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:28.800
>> Well, [laughter] no. I don't want to get

01:11:27.679 --> 01:11:30.239
you bumped off.

01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:31.760
>> Knows [clears throat] what about it.

01:11:30.238 --> 01:11:33.519
>> Let somebody else go start your car when

01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:34.640
you walk out there and wait 30 minutes.

01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:35.920
>> Make me an expert.

01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:38.159
>> Yeah. [laughter]

01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:40.000
>> I know nothing. But you know that the

01:11:38.158 --> 01:11:42.479
CIA they they were grabbing these people

01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:44.479
up and giving them I guess acid or LSD

01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:46.238
whatever and then programming them and

01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:48.399
then then they said they weren't doing

01:11:46.238 --> 01:11:50.559
it and then they got sued and they said

01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:52.479
oh we we lied. We were doing it but

01:11:50.560 --> 01:11:54.080
we're not doing it anymore. Now which

01:11:52.479 --> 01:11:55.678
time are they not? So here's here's my

01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:57.840
thought on this. I think you've got a

01:11:55.679 --> 01:11:59.440
bunch of people today because of this.

01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:01.520
It's just open up

01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:04.479
>> open up your head and pour it in. and

01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:07.040
they can put these things out to people

01:12:04.479 --> 01:12:08.879
just enough to where they know that

01:12:07.039 --> 01:12:10.000
there's going to be a reaction. There's

01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:11.520
some people, you and I are going to read

01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:12.479
this stuff and go, "Ah, you know, and

01:12:11.520 --> 01:12:14.640
there's some people that are just going

01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:16.158
to stay awake at night and just fume." I

01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:18.079
know people that read stuff and they'll

01:12:16.158 --> 01:12:20.238
call me and text me and said, "Can you

01:12:18.079 --> 01:12:22.238
believe this?" And I'm like, "Dude, man,

01:12:20.238 --> 01:12:24.399
I live this stuff. Cool out. We're good.

01:12:22.238 --> 01:12:26.559
We're okay." And I think that these

01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:28.479
folks, they know who they are and they

01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:30.080
can they can target them. You know, how

01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:32.158
many of these people are going to be are

01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:35.359
we going to find that have no internet

01:12:32.158 --> 01:12:36.479
access, have no history of being on the

01:12:35.359 --> 01:12:37.519
internet, you know,

01:12:36.479 --> 01:12:39.519
>> like Thomas Crooks.

01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:42.960
>> Yeah. That that's just that's just total

01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:45.280
BS. Total BS. Oh, we couldn't we let him

01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:46.640
on the roof and you know, and and then

01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:47.920
>> also they couldn't get snipers on that

01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:49.520
roof because the slope was too steep.

01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:51.760
>> Yeah. We had we had members of Congress

01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:54.560
that are older than I I think Daryl Isa

01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:55.920
was there. Um I [snorts] know um a

01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:57.039
couple other guys were there, too. I

01:12:55.920 --> 01:12:58.560
mean, he's an older guy. He's older than

01:12:57.039 --> 01:13:01.119
me. I think he was walking around up on

01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:02.719
it, you know, and and that's bogus.

01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:05.439
That's totally bogus. They put Trump in

01:13:02.719 --> 01:13:06.960
a bad position. And you know, that's the

01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:07.759
thing. You'll never know. You'll never

01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:09.039
Here's another thing we should talk

01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:09.840
about. Dead men tell no tales.

01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:11.198
>> There's another thing we should talk

01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:13.360
about. There's a lot of people running

01:13:11.198 --> 01:13:15.519
around out there saying that that first

01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:17.599
Trump assassination was a setup and that

01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:18.960
it was a hoax and that Trump did it to

01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:21.360
try to get people to be more sympathetic

01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:24.800
to him. Anybody who says that doesn't

01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:27.920
know anything about guns. No. because

01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:31.279
the shot was from how far was it? Was it

01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:35.119
140 yards? Is that what it was, Jamie?

01:13:31.279 --> 01:13:38.800
Um, there is not a person on earth that

01:13:35.119 --> 01:13:41.519
could nick your ear at 140 yards

01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:44.719
reliably. Not only that, but miss other

01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:46.880
shots first, kill someone behind you,

01:13:44.719 --> 01:13:50.158
shoot another person as well, and just

01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:51.440
nick his ear. And just by the grace of

01:13:50.158 --> 01:13:54.479
God, by

01:13:51.439 --> 01:13:56.319
>> just sheer luck, he turns his head at

01:13:54.479 --> 01:14:00.799
the right time and he catches his ear.

01:13:56.319 --> 01:14:03.759
Okay. 120 to 140 m or 135 to 150 yards

01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:05.360
away during the rally. Uh he was

01:14:03.760 --> 01:14:07.440
positioned on top of an AGR

01:14:05.359 --> 01:14:09.039
international building which provided a

01:14:07.439 --> 01:14:11.759
clear line of sight to the stage. Just

01:14:09.039 --> 01:14:13.760
that alone is a a tremendous failure of

01:14:11.760 --> 01:14:16.320
security. the fact that they didn't

01:14:13.760 --> 01:14:18.800
search and look at these buildings that

01:14:16.319 --> 01:14:20.960
you don't have drones above scanning the

01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:24.640
area where you have a potential line of

01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:25.279
sight, a easy shot with someone with a

01:14:24.640 --> 01:14:28.159
scope.

01:14:25.279 --> 01:14:30.319
>> And my my buddy Eli Crane, he's a he's a

01:14:28.158 --> 01:14:32.559
sniper and he said, you know, I could

01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:34.880
have I could have made that shot, you

01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:35.520
know, because he's a SEAL sniper and my

01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:36.960
>> Oh, 100%.

01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:38.159
>> My brother-in-law Cliff was a marine

01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:40.239
sniper and he said, I could have

01:14:38.158 --> 01:14:41.920
probably done it with steel sights, Tim.

01:14:40.238 --> 01:14:42.639
Well, he did. Did Did the man have steel

01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:43.920
sights or did he

01:14:42.640 --> 01:14:45.119
>> Yeah, he did have steel sights. He had

01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:48.079
>> So, he didn't have a scope.

01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:49.760
>> Uhuh. And the thing to me is that he um

01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:51.840
he [snorts] got up there and people were

01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:54.400
pointing at him. It was just a complete

01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:57.039
Is it a breakdown? You think is it a

01:14:54.399 --> 01:14:59.279
breakdown? It's a breakdown. If I if if

01:14:57.039 --> 01:15:01.519
Tim Burchett sneaks into the back of a a

01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:04.000
Leonard Skard concert and gets close to

01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:06.239
the stage, that's a breakdown. That to

01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:08.000
me is a complete capitulation. They put

01:15:06.238 --> 01:15:09.279
Trump out there and there's people that

01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:12.960
don't like him. You can say what you

01:15:09.279 --> 01:15:14.800
want to about programming and things. I

01:15:12.960 --> 01:15:16.719
just think it's it's it's out there. I

01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:18.880
think it is a reality and I think we

01:15:16.719 --> 01:15:21.439
better people better wake up because

01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:22.960
there Washington DC is not a um

01:15:21.439 --> 01:15:24.719
everybody wants to call it a swamp.

01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:25.279
>> Okay. So, it does have a it does have a

01:15:24.719 --> 01:15:26.560
scope.

01:15:25.279 --> 01:15:27.679
>> It does have a scope.

01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:28.320
>> Yeah, that's a red dot.

01:15:27.679 --> 01:15:30.239
>> Okay.

01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:34.158
>> I mean, I don't know if it's magnified.

01:15:30.238 --> 01:15:35.926
It says optics attached to rail AEMS uh

01:15:34.158 --> 01:15:38.319
optics.

01:15:35.926 --> 01:15:40.000
[snorts] So, I don't know. I'd have to

01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:42.399
talk to some of my guys out front about

01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:44.479
like what kind of a what kind of a sight

01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:45.920
that is, what kind of optics that is.

01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:49.279
>> I don't know if it's magnified or if

01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:52.399
it's like pistol optics. But either way,

01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:55.920
even if it's just if he's prone and he's

01:15:52.399 --> 01:15:58.319
got a rifle and it says uh yeah, check

01:15:55.920 --> 01:16:01.440
it out, Jamie. [clears throat]

01:15:58.319 --> 01:16:03.439
>> I think that's just the um the setup,

01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:08.021
though. I don't think that's actually

01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:09.839
the uh I think AMS optics AEMS optics is

01:16:08.021 --> 01:16:11.359
[snorts]

01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:14.239
>> the optics

01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:16.000
>> right modeled modified with a

01:16:14.238 --> 01:16:17.119
collapsible stock

01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:19.198
>> red dot site.

01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:21.439
>> Yeah. So it's a red dot. I don't know if

01:16:19.198 --> 01:16:22.639
that's magnified. I don't think that's

01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:22.960
magnified. I think

01:16:22.640 --> 01:16:24.239
>> Yeah.

01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:26.000
>> I think that's just like what you get on

01:16:24.238 --> 01:16:27.439
a pistol. It just makes it a little bit

01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:29.198
more accurate. You know, I'd seen

01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:30.799
pictures of him just walking across an

01:16:29.198 --> 01:16:32.639
area and you could tell he was carrying

01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:33.920
something that was fairly long.

01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:36.239
>> Well, not only that, he was walking

01:16:33.920 --> 01:16:37.840
around the site with a rangefinder.

01:16:36.238 --> 01:16:39.759
>> Yeah. Oh, and he playing golf.

01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:40.719
>> He'd earlier put a drone up, I think.

01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:41.840
Yeah. So,

01:16:40.719 --> 01:16:43.119
>> if you're not playing golf and you have

01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:44.960
a rangefinder, you're trying to shoot

01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:46.559
something. That's it. That's the only

01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:48.960
two reasons to use a rangefinder. You're

01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:50.159
playing golf, you're doing archery, or

01:16:48.960 --> 01:16:51.679
you're trying to shoot something with a

01:16:50.158 --> 01:16:52.158
rifle, [snorts]

01:16:51.679 --> 01:16:54.239
>> you know,

01:16:52.158 --> 01:16:56.000
>> no other thing. But these guys just keep

01:16:54.238 --> 01:16:57.439
doing this. And I and I know I think

01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:00.079
we're going to have a hearing on that.

01:16:57.439 --> 01:17:02.479
Not on that particular case, but just on

01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:04.000
what the CIA is doing and and how they

01:17:02.479 --> 01:17:05.359
could do that today.

01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:06.800
>> Well, they most certainly can do that

01:17:05.359 --> 01:17:09.119
today if they could do that in the

01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:11.360
1960s. There's a fantastic book called

01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:12.880
Chaos by Tom O'Neal. It's all about the

01:17:11.359 --> 01:17:14.319
Manson family. Have you ever read it?

01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:17.039
>> I've seen it. I haven't read it.

01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:18.880
>> It's phenomenal and it's mindblowing.

01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:22.158
You you read it and you and it all

01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:24.560
documents Jolly West and the MK Ultra

01:17:22.158 --> 01:17:26.319
program and what they did with Jack Ruby

01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:28.480
and they visited Jack Ruby after he shot

01:17:26.319 --> 01:17:30.559
Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby went

01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:32.238
insane and had a complete psychotic

01:17:30.560 --> 01:17:34.800
breakdown and said they're lighting Jews

01:17:32.238 --> 01:17:37.439
on fire and he was like going nuts and

01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:40.079
was sane before Ruby vis visited him.

01:17:37.439 --> 01:17:42.960
This guy was known to be using LSD on

01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:45.519
people, unknowing people. They uh they

01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:48.239
ran Operation Midnight Climax, which is

01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:50.640
where the CIA actually ran brothel. They

01:17:48.238 --> 01:17:52.799
had two-way mirrors and they had these

01:17:50.640 --> 01:17:55.600
uh supposed prostitutes give these

01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:57.440
John's alcohol that had LSD in it and

01:17:55.600 --> 01:17:58.320
then they'd monitor them. They were they

01:17:57.439 --> 01:18:00.479
were doing that with people,

01:17:58.319 --> 01:18:02.079
unsuspecting people, dosing them up,

01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:04.238
trying to figure out how and what

01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:05.359
techniques they could use to manipulate

01:18:04.238 --> 01:18:07.198
people and to get people to do things

01:18:05.359 --> 01:18:09.039
they wanted them to do. That's what the

01:18:07.198 --> 01:18:11.198
whole Manson family was all about. And

01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:13.760
what the Manson family that what those

01:18:11.198 --> 01:18:16.479
killings did, the Tate Labianca murders,

01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:18.400
what they did was they turned people

01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:20.479
against hippies. Like people had this

01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:22.559
idea of hippies being peace and love and

01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:24.158
like oh it's a new world and everyone's

01:18:22.560 --> 01:18:26.560
just going to do acid and hug each other

01:18:24.158 --> 01:18:28.079
and trap out of society.

01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:29.600
>> Then it was all a sudden it became no,

01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:32.158
they're psychotic killers and they're

01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:33.600
demonic and you know and this is what we

01:18:32.158 --> 01:18:35.198
have to think about. We need to ban all

01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:37.440
these drugs. And that's what they did.

01:18:35.198 --> 01:18:39.439
And it's kind of fascinating that they

01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:41.279
were able to do that and do that for so

01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:43.279
long. And if it wasn't for the Freedom

01:18:41.279 --> 01:18:45.279
of Information Act request and if it

01:18:43.279 --> 01:18:47.119
wasn't for finding those documents that

01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:47.439
they found that were just in storage,

01:18:47.119 --> 01:18:49.039
>> right,

01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:50.238
>> that detailed all this, we wouldn't have

01:18:49.039 --> 01:18:52.079
any knowledge of this stuff.

01:18:50.238 --> 01:18:53.519
>> Most that stuff disappears. You know,

01:18:52.079 --> 01:18:55.760
>> I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff that

01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:57.520
we have. I think this is just the tip of

01:18:55.760 --> 01:18:59.840
the iceberg. There's probably a ton of

01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:02.000
those things that have gone on that they

01:18:59.840 --> 01:19:03.360
successfully hid and they got sloppy

01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:05.600
with this. And Johnny West seems like he

01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:06.960
was a completely insane person. And you

01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:08.480
know, how could you not be if you were

01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:09.840
like running around dosing people with

01:19:08.479 --> 01:19:12.319
acid up with acid? Yeah.

01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:14.640
>> Running fake whouses. I mean, it's nuts.

01:19:12.319 --> 01:19:16.079
The whole story is nuts. But the idea

01:19:14.640 --> 01:19:17.199
that they go, "Hey, we shouldn't do that

01:19:16.079 --> 01:19:17.519
anymore."

01:19:17.198 --> 01:19:19.439
>> No.

01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:21.440
>> Even though it was successful, that that

01:19:19.439 --> 01:19:23.439
doesn't track that doesn't track with

01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:24.879
how anything works.

01:19:23.439 --> 01:19:26.000
>> That doesn't track with human nature.

01:19:24.880 --> 01:19:28.400
Doesn't track with how the government

01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:31.359
works. The idea that they don't have

01:19:28.399 --> 01:19:34.079
people right now. And also how many

01:19:31.359 --> 01:19:36.319
people are voluntarily on psychiatric

01:19:34.079 --> 01:19:39.198
medication that alters them and then

01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:44.238
without any sort of formal program like

01:19:39.198 --> 01:19:47.519
MK Ultra just using bots just using AI

01:19:44.238 --> 01:19:50.959
just using people's algorithm to turn

01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:52.960
them radicalize them in certain ways.

01:19:50.960 --> 01:19:54.239
Like of course they're going to do that.

01:19:52.960 --> 01:19:56.399
Of course they're going to try to figure

01:19:54.238 --> 01:19:57.839
out what they can do what they can't how

01:19:56.399 --> 01:19:59.679
they can shift narratives in one

01:19:57.840 --> 01:20:00.560
direction or another. I [snorts] mean,

01:19:59.679 --> 01:20:03.279
that's what they do.

01:20:00.560 --> 01:20:05.199
>> And Trump's a a threat to their machine.

01:20:03.279 --> 01:20:06.800
I don't I don't ever think we'll ever

01:20:05.198 --> 01:20:07.919
find the answer to it. I don't think

01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:09.119
we'll ever somebody's going to come

01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:11.760
forward. And

01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:14.559
>> maybe in in our lifetime they might, but

01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:16.719
by then everybody will be gone again.

01:20:14.560 --> 01:20:18.320
>> Where's the toxicology examination on

01:20:16.719 --> 01:20:18.719
Thomas Krooks? Let me find out what he

01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:19.920
was on.

01:20:18.719 --> 01:20:21.600
>> Wait a minute. They cremated him.

01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:24.560
>> Yeah, they cremated him really quickly.

01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:26.880
Not only that, like why was his place

01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:28.719
professionally scrubbed? He didn't even

01:20:26.880 --> 01:20:32.719
have silverware in his house. He had no

01:20:28.719 --> 01:20:34.719
computers. He had no social process, no

01:20:32.719 --> 01:20:37.119
internet footprint at all. And then they

01:20:34.719 --> 01:20:38.960
found stuff that led him to believe that

01:20:37.119 --> 01:20:40.880
maybe he had international accounts, but

01:20:38.960 --> 01:20:43.119
he doesn't have, you know, just just

01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:45.840
constant constant. And it just happens

01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:47.359
over over every course, every time.

01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:50.159
>> Not only that, but they documented

01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:52.158
metadata that tracks specific phones

01:20:50.158 --> 01:20:56.158
from the Virginia area out near where

01:20:52.158 --> 01:20:59.519
the FBI area is to his home multiple

01:20:56.158 --> 01:21:02.719
times. Why? He's a kid. He's just a a

01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:03.440
young weirdo kid and someone's visiting

01:21:02.719 --> 01:21:04.319
him.

01:21:03.439 --> 01:21:06.158
>> His over and over again.

01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:08.238
>> His parents were allegedly counselors, I

01:21:06.158 --> 01:21:10.634
think. And and that makes the whole

01:21:08.238 --> 01:21:11.198
thing even that much more mysterious.

01:21:10.635 --> 01:21:13.199
[gasps and sighs]

01:21:11.198 --> 01:21:14.879
>> It's all weird. And we don't have any

01:21:13.198 --> 01:21:16.559
answers and no one's asking questions.

01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:18.000
It's like bye-bye, went away.

01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:19.039
>> You ask the questions, you're still not

01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:20.800
going to get the answers,

01:21:19.039 --> 01:21:22.319
>> right? I mean, that will be one of those

01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:23.279
things that 30, 40 years from now,

01:21:22.319 --> 01:21:25.599
people are going to be reading books

01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:27.039
about going what the hell was going on.

01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:28.480
It's like the Kennedy assassination. You

01:21:27.039 --> 01:21:30.940
know, in the Kennedy assassination, we

01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:32.319
had a a committee meeting on that and

01:21:30.940 --> 01:21:34.319
[snorts] I asked a question from this

01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:35.519
doctor who was in the

01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:37.679
>> um in the emergency room. He brought

01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:40.960
Kennedy in and he he clearly he brought

01:21:37.679 --> 01:21:43.039
he brought a poster in to show that

01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:45.920
clearly that the bullets had come from

01:21:43.039 --> 01:21:47.439
two different directions and that was

01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:48.560
and so it had to be two bullets. It

01:21:47.439 --> 01:21:51.839
couldn't have been a a very quick

01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:54.800
ricochet. Yeah. obviously and um the

01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:56.960
whole thing, you know, and no press,

01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:58.800
nobody covered it, nothing. To me, that

01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:01.198
was blockbuster news. I thought that

01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:03.199
would have been But again, the big boys

01:22:01.198 --> 01:22:04.319
didn't see fit to put that out and that

01:22:03.198 --> 01:22:05.839
and there we are.

01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:08.079
>> Well, just the magic bullet theory

01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:10.960
alone, like, shut up. That bullet's

01:22:08.079 --> 01:22:13.039
>> Well, that gun is uh called a Manlaker

01:22:10.960 --> 01:22:16.560
carbine. It was I got one actually. It's

01:22:13.039 --> 01:22:19.039
a I think it's 7.62 Italian. It's called

01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:20.480
the only gun that never won a war. You

01:22:19.039 --> 01:22:23.039
could have gone to a Western Auto and

01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:24.799
bought an M1 with scopes on it and made

01:22:23.039 --> 01:22:26.158
a much better shot than that thing. I

01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:28.000
mean, the whole thing just stinks. And

01:22:26.158 --> 01:22:30.238
the gun they show holding up and the gun

01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:32.719
that they had later, you know, the whole

01:22:30.238 --> 01:22:34.158
thing is just screwy. Screwy. And

01:22:32.719 --> 01:22:34.560
because we didn't ask questions back

01:22:34.158 --> 01:22:36.399
then.

01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:38.719
>> Yeah. Well, no one had information. So,

01:22:36.399 --> 01:22:40.479
what questions could you even ask? And

01:22:38.719 --> 01:22:43.119
there's a great book on it called Best

01:22:40.479 --> 01:22:45.919
Evidence by David Lifton. And he was an

01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:47.760
accountant that was hired to go over the

01:22:45.920 --> 01:22:49.679
Warren Commission report. and he started

01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:51.199
finding all these inconsistencies and

01:22:49.679 --> 01:22:53.199
contradictions in the Warren Commission

01:22:51.198 --> 01:22:55.039
report. And so then he wrote this book

01:22:53.198 --> 01:22:56.719
on all the different things that are

01:22:55.039 --> 01:22:58.399
wrong with the Kennedy assassination and

01:22:56.719 --> 01:23:00.639
all the different things that we've been

01:22:58.399 --> 01:23:02.399
told that couldn't possibly be true. And

01:23:00.639 --> 01:23:04.719
it's very disturbing, including how many

01:23:02.399 --> 01:23:07.359
people that were witnesses that died.

01:23:04.719 --> 01:23:09.279
witnesses at the scene in, you know, in

01:23:07.359 --> 01:23:10.960
Dallas that died from weird

01:23:09.279 --> 01:23:13.599
circumstances. And the odds of those

01:23:10.960 --> 01:23:16.158
people dying, car accident, suicide,

01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:16.719
murder, robbery, all it's just too

01:23:16.158 --> 01:23:18.479
strange.

01:23:16.719 --> 01:23:19.920
>> And people they can't find anymore that

01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:21.519
were in those pictures,

01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:23.359
>> you know, square.

01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:24.000
>> They cleaned up a lot of the loose ends

01:23:23.359 --> 01:23:24.479
>> quick.

01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:26.000
>> Yeah.

01:23:24.479 --> 01:23:27.279
>> But back then, you know, again, you

01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:29.439
couldn't ask the questions. You didn't

01:23:27.279 --> 01:23:30.719
have the internet. And now it's

01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:32.399
>> But that I think

01:23:30.719 --> 01:23:33.920
>> but nobody's even talking about it. You

01:23:32.399 --> 01:23:37.519
can't get anybody to bring up anything

01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:40.158
on Trump getting shot or other than they

01:23:37.520 --> 01:23:42.400
put out it's a fake. You know, it's his

01:23:40.158 --> 01:23:42.719
ear healed itself and all this stuff. I

01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:44.960
you know,

01:23:42.719 --> 01:23:46.399
>> listen, his ear was clearly bleeding. He

01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:48.399
got shot in the ear. You can see the

01:23:46.399 --> 01:23:50.399
blood come out right away. It's dripping

01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:52.719
down the side of his face. And the the

01:23:50.399 --> 01:23:54.158
idea that that's a setup, you cannot be

01:23:52.719 --> 01:23:55.920
that accurate. You definitely can't be

01:23:54.158 --> 01:23:57.839
that accurate with a red dot at 140

01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:59.359
yards. You can hit him. You could

01:23:57.840 --> 01:24:01.199
definitely hit him center mass, no

01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:02.399
problem. Maybe even you hit him in the

01:24:01.198 --> 01:24:04.638
head if you're really good and you're

01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:06.399
prone. But the nicking his ear like that

01:24:04.639 --> 01:24:08.480
on purpose and to be there and say,

01:24:06.399 --> 01:24:10.559
"Hey, I just want you to nick my ear

01:24:08.479 --> 01:24:12.799
just a little piece like that's there's

01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:14.800
no off the top. There's not a chance

01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:16.400
that that's a fake." And the guy behind

01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:17.920
him's dead. So what are you saying? You

01:24:16.399 --> 01:24:19.599
think that's fake? That's a setup.

01:24:17.920 --> 01:24:21.600
>> Yeah. The fireman lost his life.

01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:24.239
>> Yeah. That's crazy. The whole thing's

01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:26.000
crazy. But it's just this thing where

01:24:24.238 --> 01:24:28.479
people hate him so much and the

01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:29.920
narrative in the media, this Trump

01:24:28.479 --> 01:24:32.158
derangement narrative that you see in

01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:33.760
the media is so strong and people are so

01:24:32.158 --> 01:24:36.960
programmed by it. And

01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:39.039
>> for the average person that has a a very

01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:40.560
involved job, you're working all day and

01:24:39.039 --> 01:24:42.158
then you have a family and you have a

01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:44.159
life and you have been you don't have

01:24:42.158 --> 01:24:46.719
time to really go into depth about

01:24:44.158 --> 01:24:48.638
what's real and what's not real. And you

01:24:46.719 --> 01:24:50.639
got that Russia collusion stuff shoved

01:24:48.639 --> 01:24:52.319
down your throat by mainstream media for

01:24:50.639 --> 01:24:52.800
years and you believe all of it

01:24:52.319 --> 01:24:55.039
>> 100%.

01:24:52.800 --> 01:24:56.960
>> And so you really believed he's a

01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:58.639
terrible person, Russian agent, all

01:24:56.960 --> 01:24:59.119
these different. So you want someone to

01:24:58.639 --> 01:25:01.119
kill him.

01:24:59.119 --> 01:25:02.479
>> Yeah. There's there's a group of folks,

01:25:01.119 --> 01:25:03.679
young folks that are starting to ask

01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:05.359
some questions. Yes.

01:25:03.679 --> 01:25:08.158
>> You [clears throat] know, my wife's son

01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:11.759
Tyler um he lives on the farm there with

01:25:08.158 --> 01:25:14.158
us and he um he's been asking me

01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:15.679
inquisitive questions because because of

01:25:14.158 --> 01:25:17.119
he doesn't buy it. And a lot of those

01:25:15.679 --> 01:25:18.319
kids in that generation, I'm glad. I

01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:19.519
don't know if it's the Charlie Kirk

01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:21.279
effect. I don't know what that is.

01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:22.320
>> That has a that's a has a definitely

01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:24.000
effect on it because a lot of people

01:25:22.319 --> 01:25:25.840
don't buy that story either. No. But

01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:27.840
it's also the internet. The internet has

01:25:25.840 --> 01:25:30.000
there's enough independent reporters out

01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:31.600
there that are untied independent

01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:33.279
journalists that are untied to any

01:25:31.600 --> 01:25:35.120
organization that has a narrative

01:25:33.279 --> 01:25:37.119
they're supposed to push and they're

01:25:35.119 --> 01:25:37.679
uncovering real information. That's

01:25:37.119 --> 01:25:38.000
screwy,

01:25:37.679 --> 01:25:40.079
>> right?

01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:42.238
>> It doesn't make any sense. Well, and

01:25:40.079 --> 01:25:44.158
also when they do though, they get they

01:25:42.238 --> 01:25:46.000
get trounced upon by the so-called

01:25:44.158 --> 01:25:48.000
mainstream media, of course. And but

01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:51.198
their numbers, I mean, my gosh, I read

01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:52.880
somewhere the the amount of uh that the

01:25:51.198 --> 01:25:54.079
amount of media or the amount of

01:25:52.880 --> 01:25:56.000
information people get from the

01:25:54.079 --> 01:25:56.719
mainstream media is is just it's

01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:59.520
diminishing.

01:25:56.719 --> 01:26:01.119
>> Well, CO sunk them. The way they handled

01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:02.639
CO and the way they carried water for

01:26:01.119 --> 01:26:04.238
the pharmaceutical drug industry.

01:26:02.639 --> 01:26:06.000
>> Oh, And Fouchy

01:26:04.238 --> 01:26:06.559
>> and the Yeah. Fouchy. And now he's going

01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:07.840
to walk.

01:26:06.560 --> 01:26:09.600
>> Is he going to walk? because there's

01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:11.199
some talk about him possibly being set

01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:11.679
up for perjury, but there's only a week

01:26:11.198 --> 01:26:13.439
to go.

01:26:11.679 --> 01:26:15.199
>> Yeah, there's a week to go. I just don't

01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:16.238
He'll get a stern letter from somebody

01:26:15.198 --> 01:26:16.799
in Washington.

01:26:16.238 --> 01:26:18.959
>> Oh,

01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:20.880
>> that drives me crazy, man. I saw, you

01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:23.198
know, the big boys, you go down to the

01:26:20.880 --> 01:26:24.560
the big hardware chain and they were

01:26:23.198 --> 01:26:26.000
allowing people to go in, but they

01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:27.440
closed down the little local ones and

01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:29.520
they closed the churches and the

01:26:27.439 --> 01:26:31.439
synagogues and everybody down

01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:32.560
>> and then we just all got in line. They

01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:34.479
just rang the bell and we're like

01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:35.760
Pavlov's dog and we just all got in

01:26:34.479 --> 01:26:37.678
line. And I remember at my hospital in

01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:39.679
Knoxville, one of them, I came out there

01:26:37.679 --> 01:26:41.520
and, you know, to get tested. I got

01:26:39.679 --> 01:26:43.119
tested. I can't tell how many times I

01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:44.560
got tested. I never tested positive.

01:26:43.119 --> 01:26:45.920
I've never took the vaccine or any of

01:26:44.560 --> 01:26:48.719
that. But I can remember coming out

01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:51.279
there and they had these um morgs they

01:26:48.719 --> 01:26:53.279
were setting up just in anticipation of

01:26:51.279 --> 01:26:55.840
of what And I just [snorts] thought,

01:26:53.279 --> 01:26:57.679
man, this is if this doesn't work out,

01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:59.199
this is the ultimate scop because people

01:26:57.679 --> 01:27:01.440
are going to get rich off this crazy

01:26:59.198 --> 01:27:02.719
thing. And they did. You know, we um

01:27:01.439 --> 01:27:05.519
>> greatest transfer of wealth.

01:27:02.719 --> 01:27:07.439
>> Unbelievably. Unbelievably. Yeah. And

01:27:05.520 --> 01:27:08.719
Congress just did it. We just did it and

01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:09.919
didn't ask any questions.

01:27:08.719 --> 01:27:11.840
>> Well, it seems like there's a real

01:27:09.920 --> 01:27:13.520
pandemic right now on this cruise ship.

01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:14.800
You know, about that henta virus. Yeah.

01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:17.199
That seems really crazy.

01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:19.440
>> And and ticks. Watch that thing.

01:27:17.198 --> 01:27:20.879
>> The tick thing is nuts. Yeah. Especially

01:27:19.439 --> 01:27:21.919
>> because of meat, because of gates.

01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:24.079
>> Uhhuh. Um,

01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:25.679
>> well, there's boxes people are finding,

01:27:24.079 --> 01:27:27.359
and I don't know if this is true because

01:27:25.679 --> 01:27:28.960
I've seen many reports on it, but I'm

01:27:27.359 --> 01:27:31.279
just going to say what I saw, that

01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:34.480
farmers and ranchers are finding boxes

01:27:31.279 --> 01:27:36.479
of ticks on their property. Now, I don't

01:27:34.479 --> 01:27:38.238
know if that's fake. I don't know if

01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:40.238
someone's setting that up to pretend

01:27:38.238 --> 01:27:43.039
they found these boxes of ticks, but

01:27:40.238 --> 01:27:45.678
there's videos of these people finding

01:27:43.039 --> 01:27:47.439
boxes of ticks. Now, what they'll say is

01:27:45.679 --> 01:27:49.760
they'll probably say they're sterile

01:27:47.439 --> 01:27:51.839
ticks and that we're planting them out

01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:53.520
there so we can diminish the population

01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:55.520
is what they'll say. But anytime they

01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:56.560
try to mess with the balance of nature,

01:27:55.520 --> 01:27:58.480
it never goes right.

01:27:56.560 --> 01:28:00.239
>> Is that what they're saying? This is

01:27:58.479 --> 01:28:01.759
getting ready. That's I'm getting You're

01:28:00.238 --> 01:28:03.678
getting it right here.

01:28:01.760 --> 01:28:05.440
>> I don't believe you have a right to go

01:28:03.679 --> 01:28:06.560
to someone's property and drop off

01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:07.439
sterile ticks.

01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:09.920
>> No way in hell.

01:28:07.439 --> 01:28:12.000
>> That's crazy either way. But I have a

01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:14.079
good friend of mine who got bit by the

01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:14.560
Lonear tick and has that alpha gal

01:28:14.079 --> 01:28:16.000
problem.

01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:17.679
>> Yeah. A kid, a guy came out my house

01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:19.760
yesterday looking at putting gutters up

01:28:17.679 --> 01:28:21.199
at our house and dad got me. He said and

01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:23.600
I said, "You did what?" He goes, "Yeah,

01:28:21.198 --> 01:28:24.479
I can't eat anything any meat produced

01:28:23.600 --> 01:28:24.800
by a mammal."

01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:25.198
>> Yes.

01:28:24.800 --> 01:28:29.279
>> I was like,

01:28:25.198 --> 01:28:31.759
>> "Yeah." So my buddy, he had it and my

01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:33.599
friend Evan, so he he had it for a

01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:35.520
little while and then he did a bunch of

01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:37.760
treatments and got off of it and then

01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:39.520
started eating steak again and he was

01:28:37.760 --> 01:28:41.520
fine for about a year and a half and

01:28:39.520 --> 01:28:44.159
then it came back stronger than ever and

01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:46.000
he just can't shake it around.

01:28:44.158 --> 01:28:47.119
>> Oh yeah. He can only eat eggs. I mean,

01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:48.880
he's basically eating eggs and

01:28:47.119 --> 01:28:50.639
vegetables. That's all he's eating. And

01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:52.639
every time he tries to deviate, he has a

01:28:50.639 --> 01:28:53.760
horrible reaction. It it makes for

01:28:52.639 --> 01:28:55.359
people that don't know, it makes your

01:28:53.760 --> 01:28:58.000
body allergic to red meat,

01:28:55.359 --> 01:28:58.719
>> right? And who has got genetically made

01:28:58.000 --> 01:28:59.520
meat now?

01:28:58.719 --> 01:29:00.158
>> Yeah. Bill Gates.

01:28:59.520 --> 01:29:01.760
>> Bill Gates.

01:29:00.158 --> 01:29:03.279
>> Yeah. Well, they're doing things with

01:29:01.760 --> 01:29:05.840
mosquitoes and they're doing they're

01:29:03.279 --> 01:29:07.279
they're messing around with nature in a

01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:09.199
way that no one's giving you permission

01:29:07.279 --> 01:29:10.639
to. The general public does not want you

01:29:09.198 --> 01:29:12.638
doing this. If they could vote on it,

01:29:10.639 --> 01:29:14.560
they'd say, "No way. You You can't."

01:29:12.639 --> 01:29:16.800
>> It's like those those beagles that they

01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:18.639
show that Fouchy uh I grew up with

01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:21.520
beagles. Sport number one, sport number

01:29:18.639 --> 01:29:25.520
two. dogs. They are the best dogs ever.

01:29:21.520 --> 01:29:27.360
And um my Buzz was um he's cavalier mix,

01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:29.600
but he was we think I'm not really sure,

01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:31.279
but he was a rescue dog. And that poor

01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:33.039
thing had never been on grass. And I see

01:29:31.279 --> 01:29:36.158
those dogs acting just like poor Buzz.

01:29:33.039 --> 01:29:38.639
He couldn't climb stairs and he was

01:29:36.158 --> 01:29:40.799
mistreated. He can't hear very well. And

01:29:38.639 --> 01:29:43.440
um he's the sweetest dad gum dog though.

01:29:40.800 --> 01:29:45.199
And those freaking beagles. I just that

01:29:43.439 --> 01:29:46.879
rips my heart out because there's right

01:29:45.198 --> 01:29:48.638
now I've talked to the scientists in the

01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:51.600
labs and there's everything we can do

01:29:48.639 --> 01:29:52.159
now we can do in the lab without pretty

01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:52.880
much without

01:29:52.158 --> 01:29:54.638
>> without cruelty

01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:56.239
>> without cruelty without

01:29:54.639 --> 01:29:59.119
>> you know bringing in beagles and why

01:29:56.238 --> 01:29:59.599
beagles the whole thing just stinks

01:29:59.119 --> 01:30:01.679
disgusting

01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:03.600
>> it's very evil I mean look I don't even

01:30:01.679 --> 01:30:06.239
like it when they do it with rats

01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:08.320
>> but doing it with puppies is insane and

01:30:06.238 --> 01:30:10.879
then euthanizing them after you've

01:30:08.319 --> 01:30:13.198
forced them to be

01:30:10.880 --> 01:30:16.000
it's horrible Yeah, he did some evil

01:30:13.198 --> 01:30:17.678
stuff. He's And he lied like clearly

01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:19.359
lied. Lied to the American people about

01:30:17.679 --> 01:30:21.679
transmission. Lied to the American

01:30:19.359 --> 01:30:23.039
people about preventing infection.

01:30:21.679 --> 01:30:23.920
>> I can remember when they brought him to

01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:26.560
Congress

01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:27.840
>> and um brought him into a meeting I was

01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:28.960
in and I was in the back and he's a

01:30:27.840 --> 01:30:30.800
little short guy and I was like, "Who

01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:32.319
the heck is that?" He said, "That's

01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:34.960
Fouchy." And they brought him in and

01:30:32.319 --> 01:30:36.559
everybody started cheering. I thought I

01:30:34.960 --> 01:30:39.039
thought I thought I had a bad vibe on

01:30:36.560 --> 01:30:40.800
him then. And then um he talked to gay

01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:42.238
folks, you know, he was involved in the

01:30:40.800 --> 01:30:42.800
>> the a DT.

01:30:42.238 --> 01:30:45.759
>> Yeah.

01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:46.560
>> And u they they got a bad feeling

01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:48.320
towards him.

01:30:46.560 --> 01:30:50.400
>> Sure. I mean he's the culprit. He's the

01:30:48.319 --> 01:30:51.119
villain in that movie, The Dallas Buyers

01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:52.960
Club.

01:30:51.119 --> 01:30:54.559
>> That's about him preventing people from

01:30:52.960 --> 01:30:55.520
taking alternative medications. That

01:30:54.560 --> 01:30:57.440
sound familiar?

01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:59.760
>> Yeah. Exactly what they did during Right

01:30:57.439 --> 01:31:02.000
now we're doing it. I was um I was in

01:30:59.760 --> 01:31:03.760
Blunt County yesterday for a police

01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:05.760
officer's memorial service and an

01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:08.159
officer came up and said, you know, my

01:31:05.760 --> 01:31:10.800
my child is suffers from a rare disease

01:31:08.158 --> 01:31:13.519
and and we can't get to this treatment

01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:15.840
and can you can you put a bug in the

01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:18.320
present? I sure you know, we'll try. But

01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:21.279
and Trump's doing that a lot now with

01:31:18.319 --> 01:31:22.799
and RFK Yeah. RFK Jr. people they

01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:27.359
they'll try to trash him and that's

01:31:22.800 --> 01:31:29.039
fine. He's a tough guy. But um he um a

01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:31.759
lot of those trials now are going

01:31:29.039 --> 01:31:33.198
forward. Cancer and other things and and

01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:35.440
that's another reason they don't like

01:31:33.198 --> 01:31:38.479
Trump. Man, you talk about I mean you

01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:40.399
got big pharma, you got big agriculture

01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:42.638
and um

01:31:40.399 --> 01:31:44.719
>> you and a couple others and they they

01:31:42.639 --> 01:31:47.199
run the they run the table, Joe. They

01:31:44.719 --> 01:31:50.079
run the table and they I told somebody,

01:31:47.198 --> 01:31:52.399
you know, and of course big energy oil,

01:31:50.079 --> 01:31:55.039
you know, we get zero. I know it's a

01:31:52.399 --> 01:31:57.039
commodity and I'm going to get lit up

01:31:55.039 --> 01:32:00.079
that oil's a commodity and it, you know,

01:31:57.039 --> 01:32:04.238
the world market, but we get zero oil

01:32:00.079 --> 01:32:06.559
from Iran. Zero. We we export oil right

01:32:04.238 --> 01:32:07.678
now and yet the price is going through

01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:10.480
the roof. It's going through the roof

01:32:07.679 --> 01:32:13.600
because it can. They can. And I always

01:32:10.479 --> 01:32:16.559
say, well, how does that gasoline in the

01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:17.920
pumps go up that's been in the they've

01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:19.520
already been processed, already been

01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:21.520
paid for. How does it go up

01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:23.679
exponentially just overnight? 20 cents a

01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:25.280
gallon or whatever. And how does that

01:32:23.679 --> 01:32:26.639
and and if that's because it's a

01:32:25.279 --> 01:32:29.119
commodity and birch that you don't

01:32:26.639 --> 01:32:31.199
understand, how come that quart of oil

01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:33.599
that you at the hardware store doesn't

01:32:31.198 --> 01:32:35.599
go up like that? Wouldn't it it's

01:32:33.600 --> 01:32:39.039
processed oil. Wouldn't it do the same?

01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:41.440
And of course diesel. It's your first

01:32:39.039 --> 01:32:43.519
cut I think is kerosene. Then it's

01:32:41.439 --> 01:32:46.000
diesel. And diesel and I've got a diesel

01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:48.480
dy. I filled it up yesterday is over

01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:50.399
$100. You know, it is the cheapest. It

01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:53.519
is the roughest cut. You know, that's

01:32:50.399 --> 01:32:56.799
why you have these credible filters

01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:58.880
because it's dirty and gasoline is the

01:32:56.800 --> 01:33:01.920
third or fourth cut and it ought to be

01:32:58.880 --> 01:33:03.679
the most expensive, but it's not. I just

01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:05.840
think it's a racket. And every time they

01:33:03.679 --> 01:33:08.399
they'll hold the hearings and they'll

01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:10.319
come down there and and you know, and

01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:12.000
the oil companies will, you know,

01:33:10.319 --> 01:33:13.840
they'll shake that money tree. They know

01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:15.439
how to do it on both sides of the aisle.

01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:17.760
>> It happens all the time. I remember when

01:33:15.439 --> 01:33:20.000
Bush was leaving office before Obama

01:33:17.760 --> 01:33:22.880
took office where gasoline just went

01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:24.479
through the through the roof. The p

01:33:22.880 --> 01:33:25.520
everybody was freaking out and no one

01:33:24.479 --> 01:33:27.839
could explain it

01:33:25.520 --> 01:33:30.000
>> and it was just I was like look they can

01:33:27.840 --> 01:33:31.840
this is like the last chance they can to

01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:33.679
just jack up the prices, jack up the

01:33:31.840 --> 01:33:35.039
profits, hold everybody hostage. You

01:33:33.679 --> 01:33:35.440
have to get gas. You got to drive to

01:33:35.039 --> 01:33:36.960
work.

01:33:35.439 --> 01:33:39.279
>> Got an oil man in the White House.

01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:41.920
>> Yeah. And they just jacked it up.

01:33:39.279 --> 01:33:43.359
>> It's payoff time. I just uh

01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:45.039
>> and is and you know and I'm a

01:33:43.359 --> 01:33:47.119
capitalist. I'm a heartless capitalist.

01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:48.238
I make skateboards. Um, and

01:33:47.119 --> 01:33:49.519
>> you make skateboards?

01:33:48.238 --> 01:33:51.098
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's cheaper than a

01:33:49.520 --> 01:33:52.080
psychiatrist.

01:33:51.099 --> 01:33:53.760
[laughter]

01:33:52.079 --> 01:33:55.519
I go I guess I'm a little bit like

01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:56.880
Trump. I like ketchup on my steak.

01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:58.880
Although I think he gets his well done.

01:33:56.880 --> 01:34:00.079
I get mine medium rare. But um

01:33:58.880 --> 01:34:00.719
>> you put ketchup on your steak. You

01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:02.319
should go to jail.

01:34:00.719 --> 01:34:02.560
>> Does the Baptist church got a bus?

01:34:02.319 --> 01:34:04.079
Terrible.

01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:06.000
>> Yes, they do. And yes, I do. Terrible.

01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:08.783
Any No, I make skateboards. So, I make

01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:10.639
this crazy skateboard for um for um

01:34:08.783 --> 01:34:12.799
[snorts] Tulsi Gabbard. She's a buddy of

01:34:10.639 --> 01:34:13.440
mine. She's She's She's kind of a

01:34:12.800 --> 01:34:15.039
>> I love her.

01:34:13.439 --> 01:34:17.599
>> I love her, too. She is wonderful. And

01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:18.079
she's from Hawaii. So, in Trump's first

01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:19.520
Oh, that's

01:34:18.079 --> 01:34:20.079
>> There it is. Okay. I made that

01:34:19.520 --> 01:34:21.040
skateboard.

01:34:20.079 --> 01:34:22.800
>> Bigfoot skateboard.

01:34:21.039 --> 01:34:25.679
>> Yeah. I put my sticker on it. It's made

01:34:22.800 --> 01:34:26.880
out of bamboo, oak, and banana fibers

01:34:25.679 --> 01:34:27.359
off the banana plant.

01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:30.960
>> Oh, wow.

01:34:27.359 --> 01:34:33.198
>> And um and she she outs me during the um

01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:34.639
Trump's first. There's my guys at Pluto

01:34:33.198 --> 01:34:36.319
Sports. They put my wheels and trucks

01:34:34.639 --> 01:34:38.880
on. It's just a they're guys I was in

01:34:36.319 --> 01:34:39.359
high school with. Um but anyway,

01:34:38.880 --> 01:34:41.679
>> skate.

01:34:39.359 --> 01:34:42.880
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. But I don't do the fancy

01:34:41.679 --> 01:34:44.960
stuff. I just do tricks.

01:34:42.880 --> 01:34:46.800
>> And not anymore. I'm 61, dude. I don't

01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:47.600
heal like I did when I was 51, much less

01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:49.119
when I was a young man.

01:34:47.600 --> 01:34:51.039
>> You're only a few years older than me.

01:34:49.119 --> 01:34:51.519
>> Well, you look good.

01:34:51.039 --> 01:34:53.198
>> Thank you.

01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:54.880
>> Sorry, man. I'm just, you know, people

01:34:53.198 --> 01:34:56.799
think I'm on steroids, but I'm naturally

01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:59.760
this huge. But [laughter]

01:34:56.800 --> 01:35:01.840
so, so she Tulsy says, "Purch it." I

01:34:59.760 --> 01:35:02.880
said, "Hey, Tulsy." She says, and she's

01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:04.560
walking in here to the State of the

01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:06.239
Union, cameras, people are in. Where's

01:35:04.560 --> 01:35:08.400
my dad gum skateboard? My birthday's

01:35:06.238 --> 01:35:10.238
next month. I'm like, "Oh, crap." So I

01:35:08.399 --> 01:35:12.238
make her this skateboard, right? And

01:35:10.238 --> 01:35:13.678
that picture comes out and I mean people

01:35:12.238 --> 01:35:15.039
all over the world are saying, "Where

01:35:13.679 --> 01:35:18.319
can I get a birchet board? Where can I

01:35:15.039 --> 01:35:20.158
get a birchet board?" So I'm Mr., you

01:35:18.319 --> 01:35:23.599
know, I'm trying to be ethical and you

01:35:20.158 --> 01:35:25.198
know, and uh I I go down to see the

01:35:23.600 --> 01:35:26.719
ethics guy and this little attorney

01:35:25.198 --> 01:35:28.960
tells me, he says, "Well, Congressman,

01:35:26.719 --> 01:35:30.560
you know, you got to you can't do that.

01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:31.760
You can't call it a Burchet board. You

01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:33.920
can't you know." I said, "Well, my

01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:36.239
wife's got to own the company." And they

01:35:33.920 --> 01:35:38.399
think, "Well, maybe." And then you but

01:35:36.238 --> 01:35:39.759
you can't work there and all this other

01:35:38.399 --> 01:35:41.679
stuff. And you know everybody down

01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:43.520
there's got a side hustle, right? And

01:35:41.679 --> 01:35:45.440
I've said, "Dude, so you're telling me I

01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:47.040
can do insider stock trading, but I

01:35:45.439 --> 01:35:49.678
can't sell a dad gum skateboard." And

01:35:47.039 --> 01:35:52.639
the guy said, "That's correct." So

01:35:49.679 --> 01:35:54.560
anyway, I got about 35 skateboards in my

01:35:52.639 --> 01:35:55.440
barn. I just keep making them. And I

01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:56.320
call my attorney.

01:35:55.439 --> 01:35:57.599
>> You make them yourself?

01:35:56.319 --> 01:35:58.639
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I say it's

01:35:57.600 --> 01:35:59.679
cheaper than a psychiatrist.

01:35:58.639 --> 01:36:02.400
>> So you make them by hand?

01:35:59.679 --> 01:36:03.199
>> Yeah, absolutely. You know, I have um

01:36:02.399 --> 01:36:05.599
>> That's pretty cool.

01:36:03.198 --> 01:36:08.799
>> I make them. I'm cheap, but so I make

01:36:05.600 --> 01:36:10.239
them out of uh bamboo that I cut. Uh

01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:11.760
buddy of mine, Chris Pointer's got a

01:36:10.238 --> 01:36:13.198
bunch at his house, but I I go to the

01:36:11.760 --> 01:36:14.320
synagogue behind the synagogue on

01:36:13.198 --> 01:36:15.759
Kingston Pike. There's a bunch of

01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:16.960
bamboo, and they used to let me cut it.

01:36:15.760 --> 01:36:19.920
Now, when this airs, they probably

01:36:16.960 --> 01:36:22.800
won't, but um [laughter] and then I I

01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:24.399
get oak pallets and um and banana

01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:25.440
fibers. They grow off the banana plant.

01:36:24.399 --> 01:36:26.879
So, but anyway, I grow.

01:36:25.439 --> 01:36:28.960
>> Did you laminate it all?

01:36:26.880 --> 01:36:30.319
>> Yeah. Well, I used fiberglass with that

01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:32.079
and I'm trying to get away from the

01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:34.559
carcinogens, you know, the cancer

01:36:32.079 --> 01:36:37.119
causing. So, um, I use a Titebond 3

01:36:34.560 --> 01:36:38.960
glue. It's waterproof and water-based.

01:36:37.119 --> 01:36:40.880
And then, um, and then I just sand them

01:36:38.960 --> 01:36:42.239
all down and cuz, you know, you scuff

01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:45.039
them up after you ride them around.

01:36:42.238 --> 01:36:47.839
Anyway, so anyway, so I make them out of

01:36:45.039 --> 01:36:50.399
that and I laminate the wood and, um, my

01:36:47.840 --> 01:36:51.920
local the steel laborers, um, they

01:36:50.399 --> 01:36:54.719
needed a project one year when I was

01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:56.079
mayor of Knox County and I and somebody

01:36:54.719 --> 01:36:58.158
said, "Hey, they want to these guys want

01:36:56.079 --> 01:36:59.760
to make a a skateboard press." They

01:36:58.158 --> 01:37:01.599
said, "Do you want one?" I said, "Yeah,

01:36:59.760 --> 01:37:02.800
I'll buy the metal." And I'm thinking,

01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:04.400
you know, they're going to build me this

01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:07.600
little thing. No, I mean, it's like

01:37:04.399 --> 01:37:09.039
three burly union metal workers have to

01:37:07.600 --> 01:37:11.760
put this thing in the back of my dad gum

01:37:09.039 --> 01:37:14.479
pickup truck. It is a monster. And it um

01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:16.400
and I can press them, but um and I've

01:37:14.479 --> 01:37:16.959
got clamps and I do all of it. But

01:37:16.399 --> 01:37:17.920
anyway,

01:37:16.960 --> 01:37:20.000
>> that's pretty cool.

01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:22.079
>> Yeah. But but I can't but I can't sell

01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:23.359
them. I got My wife's like,

01:37:22.079 --> 01:37:24.479
>> "What are you doing out there?" And I

01:37:23.359 --> 01:37:25.759
said, "Well, come out there and look at

01:37:24.479 --> 01:37:27.678
my boards, honey. I'm making

01:37:25.760 --> 01:37:28.320
skateboards." And I'm saying I And she

01:37:27.679 --> 01:37:30.719
always

01:37:28.319 --> 01:37:32.799
>> get you out there. That's one I That was

01:37:30.719 --> 01:37:34.399
just one I laminated up, but um or it's

01:37:32.800 --> 01:37:36.560
side laminated. But

01:37:34.399 --> 01:37:38.879
>> my wife always says, "Honey, you go to

01:37:36.560 --> 01:37:40.719
it." She says, "I'm sure they laughed at

01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:42.639
the guy that created the pool noodle."

01:37:40.719 --> 01:37:44.560
That's her line. Always [laughter]

01:37:42.639 --> 01:37:46.159
>> probably Kelly said, "Oh, yeah. Yeah, it

01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:47.520
was just a piece of insulation off some

01:37:46.158 --> 01:37:48.960
old rental house and he threw it in the

01:37:47.520 --> 01:37:51.119
his kids were swimming with it and he

01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:52.800
thought, man, I'm going to take that 12

01:37:51.118 --> 01:37:54.479
cent piece of foam, take it to Walmart

01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:55.679
and sell it for $6 a piece." And now

01:37:54.479 --> 01:37:57.759
he's probably sitting on some island

01:37:55.679 --> 01:38:01.600
somewhere laughing at us right now. But

01:37:57.760 --> 01:38:03.440
no, I make them and I've been trying to.

01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:06.000
Anyway, it's very frustrating. I got a

01:38:03.439 --> 01:38:07.919
meeting with the attorneys um and the

01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:09.359
chairman of the ethics committee who is

01:38:07.920 --> 01:38:10.960
a really good guy. He and I came to

01:38:09.359 --> 01:38:12.079
Congress together and we're trying to

01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:13.359
work it out. So,

01:38:12.079 --> 01:38:16.079
>> it's not even that it's a lot of money

01:38:13.359 --> 01:38:17.599
in handmade skateboards. Like, the fact

01:38:16.079 --> 01:38:19.920
that you could have insider trading, you

01:38:17.600 --> 01:38:20.719
can't sell handmade skateboards is

01:38:19.920 --> 01:38:21.920
>> that's ridiculous.

01:38:20.719 --> 01:38:24.319
>> A little ridiculous, isn't it?

01:38:21.920 --> 01:38:25.840
>> It's also it's like what what because

01:38:24.319 --> 01:38:28.238
you're famous? Because you're on

01:38:25.840 --> 01:38:29.600
television like is gonna Yeah. They're

01:38:28.238 --> 01:38:31.919
gonna sway my vote because they bought a

01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:34.560
dad gum skateboard from me. Yeah. I I

01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:36.800
took one to an auction and and um and I

01:38:34.560 --> 01:38:37.440
think somebody paid $5,200 for one of

01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:38.159
those decades.

01:38:37.439 --> 01:38:39.839
>> Whoa.

01:38:38.158 --> 01:38:41.519
>> And then some other guy comes up and

01:38:39.840 --> 01:38:43.600
says, "Tim, I was at the bar and I

01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:45.440
missed it. If I give them 5200, will you

01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:48.880
make me one?" So, I got a couple and

01:38:45.439 --> 01:38:52.079
then my friends in Clayurn County um the

01:38:48.880 --> 01:38:53.600
uh the mountains up there, they um they

01:38:52.079 --> 01:38:55.519
uh they chair the committee and they

01:38:53.600 --> 01:38:57.119
asked me and some I thought I was making

01:38:55.520 --> 01:38:58.960
one and then when I got out of there I

01:38:57.118 --> 01:39:00.880
was making three. So, I don't know. And

01:38:58.960 --> 01:39:02.158
then I people just like them and they

01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:02.960
put them on their wall. I mean, you

01:39:02.158 --> 01:39:04.638
know, you're not going to be in the

01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:06.000
Olympics with Tony Hawk's not going to

01:39:04.639 --> 01:39:08.560
go, "Hey, Tim Burchie, will you make me

01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:10.399
a board?" You know, but it's it's just

01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:11.280
for cruising down the sidewalk kind of

01:39:10.399 --> 01:39:13.359
thing.

01:39:11.279 --> 01:39:14.559
>> That's awesome. That's awesome. It sucks

01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:14.799
that they won't let you sell it though.

01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:16.400
That's

01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:18.079
>> Yeah,

01:39:16.399 --> 01:39:19.759
you sell your soul, but I can't sell a

01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:21.600
skateboard.

01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:24.079
>> Speaking of selling, um, you were

01:39:21.600 --> 01:39:25.679
telling me earlier before we started,

01:39:24.079 --> 01:39:26.559
and I said, "Save this because I want to

01:39:25.679 --> 01:39:26.880
talk about this later."

01:39:26.560 --> 01:39:29.600
>> Yeah.

01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:30.560
>> That the Taliban gets how many millions

01:39:29.600 --> 01:39:34.079
of dollars a week?

01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:38.960
>> About $40 million a week. Um,

01:39:34.079 --> 01:39:40.800
it all happened. I was on a um a

01:39:38.960 --> 01:39:44.560
podcast and they were talking about it

01:39:40.800 --> 01:39:45.119
and um Sean Ryan and he had he I love

01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:48.000
that dude.

01:39:45.118 --> 01:39:49.679
>> Yeah. Great American. I love him. He's

01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:51.198
>> he's a good Christian man. He's been

01:39:49.679 --> 01:39:54.079
through it. You know, he's an incredible

01:39:51.198 --> 01:39:55.279
guy that they've asked to do horrible

01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:57.118
things.

01:39:55.279 --> 01:39:59.118
>> And people like that, I give them a wide

01:39:57.118 --> 01:40:01.599
path. I let them slide on a lot of

01:39:59.118 --> 01:40:04.639
things. But he's he's a good daddy and

01:40:01.600 --> 01:40:06.159
and um you know he just and he he he

01:40:04.639 --> 01:40:07.679
worries about our country. He reminds me

01:40:06.158 --> 01:40:10.479
a lot of my dad because dad was you

01:40:07.679 --> 01:40:12.560
couldn't wake my dad up um to the day he

01:40:10.479 --> 01:40:14.879
died over the top of him always by his

01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:17.119
big toe cuz he cuz he might wake up on

01:40:14.880 --> 01:40:19.600
one of those islands and pin me against

01:40:17.118 --> 01:40:21.198
the wall. His marine on Peloo and

01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:22.880
Okinawa and

01:40:21.198 --> 01:40:24.638
>> daddy's colonel was a guy named Chesty

01:40:22.880 --> 01:40:26.400
Puller. Colonel Puller you can look him

01:40:24.639 --> 01:40:30.719
up. He was a Marine Corps legend, but

01:40:26.399 --> 01:40:33.439
and my daddy loved him. But um anyway,

01:40:30.719 --> 01:40:35.198
the um I'm I'm on this podcast with

01:40:33.439 --> 01:40:37.439
Shawn and he says, "Hey, I want you to

01:40:35.198 --> 01:40:38.960
introduce Eli Crane. He's a He's a

01:40:37.439 --> 01:40:40.960
excuse me, Navy Seal in Congress." He

01:40:38.960 --> 01:40:42.239
said, "I want you to go on this podcast

01:40:40.960 --> 01:40:44.560
with Shawn Ryan." I said, "I don't know

01:40:42.238 --> 01:40:46.638
who Shawn Ryan is. I don't I'm not a

01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:48.159
podcast guy. I don't My daughter always

01:40:46.639 --> 01:40:49.199
give me your phone. I don't know how to

01:40:48.158 --> 01:40:50.559
do it." And all of a sudden, I got a

01:40:49.198 --> 01:40:53.359
cool picture of her on there. I don't

01:40:50.560 --> 01:40:56.239
even know how she did it. But so I'm on

01:40:53.359 --> 01:40:58.000
there and um and he calls me and says,

01:40:56.238 --> 01:41:00.238
"I want you to meet with this guy." He

01:40:58.000 --> 01:41:05.359
goes by the name Legend, and that's not

01:41:00.238 --> 01:41:07.198
his real name, but um he um he he comes

01:41:05.359 --> 01:41:10.479
up he comes into the office and he has

01:41:07.198 --> 01:41:12.158
to he can't use his real name and uh and

01:41:10.479 --> 01:41:13.839
says, "Look, they're getting $40 million

01:41:12.158 --> 01:41:18.158
a week." I said, "Who is?" He said, "The

01:41:13.840 --> 01:41:20.719
Taliban." And he's a he's a um Afghani

01:41:18.158 --> 01:41:22.719
that fought for us. And so he's dual

01:41:20.719 --> 01:41:25.279
citizenship introduc you know I talked

01:41:22.719 --> 01:41:26.880
to the pre for last democratically

01:41:25.279 --> 01:41:30.719
elected president of Afghanistan through

01:41:26.880 --> 01:41:33.118
him on a on a call and um and he's a

01:41:30.719 --> 01:41:36.719
dear friend and he comes by all the time

01:41:33.118 --> 01:41:39.439
and we talk and and so John Stout in my

01:41:36.719 --> 01:41:41.840
office who's like he's the best. I mean

01:41:39.439 --> 01:41:44.638
this guy his mom and daddy were in a

01:41:41.840 --> 01:41:46.719
very tragic car accident and they um

01:41:44.639 --> 01:41:48.560
they prayed through it and and they both

01:41:46.719 --> 01:41:50.800
lived. I mean, daddy had to get, you

01:41:48.560 --> 01:41:52.719
know, his banged up and his mama's head

01:41:50.800 --> 01:41:55.679
got banged up pretty bad. And John's

01:41:52.719 --> 01:41:58.079
just he's he is the quintessential

01:41:55.679 --> 01:41:59.920
staffer because he's so loyal and he

01:41:58.079 --> 01:42:01.920
loves this country. And so he said,

01:41:59.920 --> 01:42:03.920
"Boss, I think I got an idea." I said,

01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:06.880
"All right." So he figured out this

01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:09.679
monitoring thing where what they do is

01:42:06.880 --> 01:42:12.639
they um they send they send pallets of

01:42:09.679 --> 01:42:16.319
cash to them through whatever and they

01:42:12.639 --> 01:42:18.880
uh there's three banks in um over there

01:42:16.319 --> 01:42:20.238
that are owned by the Taliban and

01:42:18.880 --> 01:42:23.840
everything goes through them. You know

01:42:20.238 --> 01:42:25.599
the Lord takes 10% with tithe and but

01:42:23.840 --> 01:42:27.199
the Taliban takes a hell of a lot more.

01:42:25.600 --> 01:42:29.360
They take it right off the top and on

01:42:27.198 --> 01:42:31.678
ingress and egress. If you give them

01:42:29.359 --> 01:42:33.359
money or take money away, I mean, or if

01:42:31.679 --> 01:42:35.520
you spend money or put money in or

01:42:33.359 --> 01:42:37.439
whatever you take in or pay out, they

01:42:35.520 --> 01:42:40.480
get their cut off of it every dadum

01:42:37.439 --> 01:42:43.519
time. And so I'm thinking, this can't be

01:42:40.479 --> 01:42:45.519
right. So I got a memo on my desk from

01:42:43.520 --> 01:42:47.840
the State Department. It's stamped

01:42:45.520 --> 01:42:49.920
classified, so I can't talk about it,

01:42:47.840 --> 01:42:52.159
but then it's stamped unclassified under

01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:53.520
it, so I can talk about it. And it

01:42:52.158 --> 01:42:55.359
basically said under the Biden

01:42:53.520 --> 01:42:59.520
administration, they think we gave them

01:42:55.359 --> 01:43:01.118
$5 billion with a B5 $5 billion.

01:42:59.520 --> 01:43:03.040
Now,

01:43:01.118 --> 01:43:05.359
and you've got NOS's. Now, how many

01:43:03.039 --> 01:43:06.238
NOS's you think operate out of over

01:43:05.359 --> 01:43:07.519
there?

01:43:06.238 --> 01:43:09.359
>> Oh, how many?

01:43:07.520 --> 01:43:11.360
>> Over a thousand. And then you throw in

01:43:09.359 --> 01:43:12.479
the United Nations and the

01:43:11.359 --> 01:43:13.039
>> out of Afghanistan.

01:43:12.479 --> 01:43:14.479
>> Yeah. It's just

01:43:13.039 --> 01:43:17.198
>> there's a thousand NOS.

01:43:14.479 --> 01:43:19.198
>> It's the freakest it's the biggest scam.

01:43:17.198 --> 01:43:21.359
NOS's. I wrote a letter to the president

01:43:19.198 --> 01:43:23.279
months ago and I'm they've tapped the

01:43:21.359 --> 01:43:24.559
brakes on the NOS's. I mean, some of

01:43:23.279 --> 01:43:28.319
them don't have any money and some of

01:43:24.560 --> 01:43:29.760
them got a lot. But Elon Musk told me

01:43:28.319 --> 01:43:31.439
like I really know him. I mean, I've

01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:32.880
hung out with him a couple times and we

01:43:31.439 --> 01:43:36.675
talked. Called me Tim, which I thought

01:43:32.880 --> 01:43:38.079
was pretty cool. Um, but he says uh um

01:43:36.676 --> 01:43:40.880
[snorts] he says, "Tim, here's how these

01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:42.639
NOS's work." He said, "You know, they

01:43:40.880 --> 01:43:44.400
start out as a good organization. maybe

01:43:42.639 --> 01:43:45.840
during Bush one or Bush two, you know, a

01:43:44.399 --> 01:43:47.439
lot of those limousine liberals,

01:43:45.840 --> 01:43:50.960
dogooders, you know, they start these

01:43:47.439 --> 01:43:53.599
organizations and they um they set them

01:43:50.960 --> 01:43:56.480
up and and to do, you know, feed the

01:43:53.600 --> 01:43:58.400
starving children or whatever. Well,

01:43:56.479 --> 01:44:00.559
they don't have any money in them and

01:43:58.399 --> 01:44:03.039
some billionaire who we could we all

01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:04.880
know, you can just name them. They'll

01:44:03.039 --> 01:44:06.639
drop a million in one of those and then

01:44:04.880 --> 01:44:08.239
this unelected bureaucrat in Washington

01:44:06.639 --> 01:44:10.079
DC says, "Hey, they got a million

01:44:08.238 --> 01:44:12.238
dollars. This place is legit." And so

01:44:10.079 --> 01:44:15.519
they give them money. They put the money

01:44:12.238 --> 01:44:17.198
in there for them and then they start

01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:20.960
running federal money through that.

01:44:17.198 --> 01:44:22.479
Yours and my tax dollars. And he told me

01:44:20.960 --> 01:44:24.719
he thinks they stole over a trillion

01:44:22.479 --> 01:44:26.718
dollars. I thought at the time I thought

01:44:24.719 --> 01:44:30.399
that was crazy. But then I start looking

01:44:26.719 --> 01:44:33.600
at um uh you know what happened in

01:44:30.399 --> 01:44:36.399
Minneapolis Minnesota 19 billion.

01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:38.880
>> Joe, when I went to state legislature,

01:44:36.399 --> 01:44:41.599
our our state budget of Tennessee wasn't

01:44:38.880 --> 01:44:44.079
$19 billion as years ago. So, it's a lot

01:44:41.600 --> 01:44:46.079
more than that now, but that's the the

01:44:44.079 --> 01:44:49.439
amount of fraud and waste and abuse that

01:44:46.079 --> 01:44:53.198
go on. Well, so back backtrack to this

01:44:49.439 --> 01:44:56.399
deal. So, I get involved with it and um

01:44:53.198 --> 01:44:59.359
and and it it's just unbelievable. It

01:44:56.399 --> 01:45:01.279
took me two I passed the bill twice. The

01:44:59.359 --> 01:45:02.799
second time my buddy John Stout in the

01:45:01.279 --> 01:45:05.359
office there, he comes up with even

01:45:02.800 --> 01:45:08.320
stronger version. And so, we send it to

01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:13.359
the Senate. And so we find out that

01:45:08.319 --> 01:45:15.679
there's a Senate staffer that

01:45:13.359 --> 01:45:18.399
somebody said he's like the unofficial

01:45:15.679 --> 01:45:20.880
uh ambassador to Afghanistan. He's I've

01:45:18.399 --> 01:45:23.439
literally read where he said it seem

01:45:20.880 --> 01:45:25.520
appears to me complimentary things about

01:45:23.439 --> 01:45:27.118
the Taliban. Now those people want to

01:45:25.520 --> 01:45:28.560
kill us. They'll as I like to say

01:45:27.118 --> 01:45:30.319
they'll hate us for free. We don't need

01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:32.239
to give them any money. Well, it's like

01:45:30.319 --> 01:45:35.198
pull it's like pulling teeth through my

01:45:32.238 --> 01:45:37.839
committee. the Democrats raised ruckus

01:45:35.198 --> 01:45:39.759
and uh because obviously they don't want

01:45:37.840 --> 01:45:43.920
anybody looking at those NOS's and the

01:45:39.760 --> 01:45:46.719
NGO money now get this it maybe a little

01:45:43.920 --> 01:45:49.199
bit goes to feed some starving kid but a

01:45:46.719 --> 01:45:50.719
lot of it gets washed and it goes back

01:45:49.198 --> 01:45:52.399
to the good old United States of

01:45:50.719 --> 01:45:53.600
America. Are you familiar with dark

01:45:52.399 --> 01:45:56.319
money and campaigns?

01:45:53.600 --> 01:45:59.679
>> Yes. You know, you're and I'll the folks

01:45:56.319 --> 01:46:02.319
back home the day before the election,

01:45:59.679 --> 01:46:04.480
the the people for American justice

01:46:02.319 --> 01:46:06.559
approved this ad. Did you know Tim

01:46:04.479 --> 01:46:08.399
Burchett, you know, pushed his second

01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:10.560
grade girlfriend down in a mud puddle

01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:12.399
and never apologized? That's what

01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:14.000
happened, you know, and then paid for by

01:46:12.399 --> 01:46:16.000
the people for America justice, you

01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:18.079
know, you know, and then but what's

01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:19.679
happened is is that money that you're

01:46:18.079 --> 01:46:21.840
sending over there is coming back in the

01:46:19.679 --> 01:46:23.920
form of dark money. And we've got and

01:46:21.840 --> 01:46:26.000
and I I think both parties are involved

01:46:23.920 --> 01:46:28.639
with it at some point. I think the

01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:30.238
Democrats have had the had a run of it

01:46:28.639 --> 01:46:32.239
and they've they've got a they've got it

01:46:30.238 --> 01:46:34.182
pretty much closed. They've got a pretty

01:46:32.238 --> 01:46:35.118
good market going on it in my opinion.

01:46:34.182 --> 01:46:37.039
[snorts] And there are probably some

01:46:35.118 --> 01:46:40.479
Republicans I think I know of that are

01:46:37.039 --> 01:46:42.079
that have some dark money too. And uh

01:46:40.479 --> 01:46:43.678
not necessarily from this but from other

01:46:42.079 --> 01:46:46.399
things. And then you start talking about

01:46:43.679 --> 01:46:48.319
the UN. The UN has got and and everybody

01:46:46.399 --> 01:46:50.319
say that's UN Burch. We don't have the

01:46:48.319 --> 01:46:52.559
heck we don't. We sponsor the freaking

01:46:50.319 --> 01:46:54.319
UN. If it was up to me, I'd pull out of

01:46:52.560 --> 01:46:57.039
the dad ggum UN. They are nothing. All

01:46:54.319 --> 01:46:59.198
they do is get Americans killed. They

01:46:57.039 --> 01:47:00.880
they they talk ugly about us and then

01:46:59.198 --> 01:47:03.519
they take our dad gum money and we let

01:47:00.880 --> 01:47:05.440
them do it because crooked politicians

01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:08.400
are in bed. Washington is crooked as a

01:47:05.439 --> 01:47:11.118
dog's leg, Joe. And this and this bill

01:47:08.399 --> 01:47:12.879
makes them report it and and and follow

01:47:11.118 --> 01:47:15.039
the money so we know where it's going.

01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:17.520
And if it's going to the pal Taliban,

01:47:15.039 --> 01:47:20.479
it's out. And so can you just explain to

01:47:17.520 --> 01:47:23.119
me how they would justify sending money

01:47:20.479 --> 01:47:24.718
to the Taliban and what what is like

01:47:23.118 --> 01:47:25.039
what is the circumstance like how do

01:47:24.719 --> 01:47:26.639
they

01:47:25.039 --> 01:47:29.118
>> they justify it by saying it doesn't

01:47:26.639 --> 01:47:31.199
happen. They justify it by saying it

01:47:29.118 --> 01:47:33.519
doesn't happen. But I'm talking to a guy

01:47:31.198 --> 01:47:35.118
that's got a legend who's got people on

01:47:33.520 --> 01:47:36.719
the ground and and the people over there

01:47:35.118 --> 01:47:38.880
the the freedom fight are saying please

01:47:36.719 --> 01:47:41.920
quit sending them money. police and you

01:47:38.880 --> 01:47:43.359
know they when we left over there you

01:47:41.920 --> 01:47:45.840
know we left how many billions of

01:47:43.359 --> 01:47:48.719
dollars worth of of armaments on the

01:47:45.840 --> 01:47:50.480
ground they said oh uh you know I mean I

01:47:48.719 --> 01:47:52.639
heard Democrats saying well those people

01:47:50.479 --> 01:47:54.799
can't fly those high-end choppers well

01:47:52.639 --> 01:47:56.400
you know who could the dadgum Chinese

01:47:54.800 --> 01:47:57.279
who were on the ground before we got out

01:47:56.399 --> 01:48:00.000
of there right

01:47:57.279 --> 01:48:01.920
>> so it's it's just a crooked game it's a

01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:03.760
small portion I know

01:48:01.920 --> 01:48:04.239
>> but explain how's the money getting to

01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:07.760
them

01:48:04.238 --> 01:48:10.638
>> okay it is sent to them um through these

01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:12.639
NOS's and other organizations and so

01:48:10.639 --> 01:48:13.199
>> so we fund the NOS's

01:48:12.639 --> 01:48:15.279
>> correct

01:48:13.198 --> 01:48:18.238
>> the NOS send money to the Taliban why

01:48:15.279 --> 01:48:20.319
why would they do that

01:48:18.238 --> 01:48:21.279
>> because they get a cut off of it they

01:48:20.319 --> 01:48:24.559
don't care

01:48:21.279 --> 01:48:26.800
>> okay so the Taliban gets 40 million and

01:48:24.560 --> 01:48:28.639
then they send that money back

01:48:26.800 --> 01:48:30.320
>> some of it comes back and some of it

01:48:28.639 --> 01:48:31.840
doesn't um

01:48:30.319 --> 01:48:33.198
>> but as long as they get a piece of it

01:48:31.840 --> 01:48:33.679
they don't care how much the Taliban

01:48:33.198 --> 01:48:36.158
gets

01:48:33.679 --> 01:48:38.319
>> right it this requires a report on any

01:48:36.158 --> 01:48:40.238
cash assistant programs in Afghanistan

01:48:38.319 --> 01:48:42.399
and how the US keeps the Taliban from

01:48:40.238 --> 01:48:45.118
assessing that. And it requires a report

01:48:42.399 --> 01:48:47.198
on the Afghan fund and the Afghanistan

01:48:45.118 --> 01:48:48.799
central bank. And these reports, of

01:48:47.198 --> 01:48:50.799
course, would shed light on the

01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:54.079
Taliban's influence over the Afghanistan

01:48:50.800 --> 01:48:55.840
central bank. And you can um you can

01:48:54.079 --> 01:48:57.359
research it. A lot of it is is these

01:48:55.840 --> 01:48:58.639
dogooder programs, you know, oh man,

01:48:57.359 --> 01:48:59.759
we're taking care of the orphans. We're

01:48:58.639 --> 01:49:01.199
taking care of this. And you know good

01:48:59.760 --> 01:49:03.199
and well they ain't taking care of any

01:49:01.198 --> 01:49:04.559
dad gum orphans. They're stealing the

01:49:03.198 --> 01:49:06.719
money to do it.

01:49:04.560 --> 01:49:07.600
>> And it just infuriates me. And then I

01:49:06.719 --> 01:49:08.639
hear them say, "Well, it's not

01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:10.159
happening." I say, "Well, if it's not

01:49:08.639 --> 01:49:11.679
happening, then dad gum it pass the

01:49:10.158 --> 01:49:14.238
bill. What's it hurt?

01:49:11.679 --> 01:49:16.800
>> What's it hurt?" We pass

01:49:14.238 --> 01:49:18.718
worthless legislation every dad gum day.

01:49:16.800 --> 01:49:20.800
And you know, and I can't get a peep. I

01:49:18.719 --> 01:49:22.319
said to Thone when he came in when King

01:49:20.800 --> 01:49:23.920
Charles was in which was kind of funny,

01:49:22.319 --> 01:49:24.399
too. I had funny conversation. King

01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:25.679
Charles,

01:49:24.399 --> 01:49:27.198
>> by the way, no kings.

01:49:25.679 --> 01:49:29.118
>> I'm not a king. Yeah. Yeah. What about

01:49:27.198 --> 01:49:30.638
that? I was

01:49:29.118 --> 01:49:32.880
What the heck? I got a picture. There's

01:49:30.639 --> 01:49:34.639
a picture of me. I did a video on my ex

01:49:32.880 --> 01:49:36.480
account at Tim Burchett. See, I threw

01:49:34.639 --> 01:49:38.239
that plug in. But um

01:49:36.479 --> 01:49:39.839
>> Central Bank of Afghanistan said it

01:49:38.238 --> 01:49:42.559
received another injection of $40

01:49:39.840 --> 01:49:46.000
million in cash this week. And this is

01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:48.159
literally $100 bills in stacks. Is that

01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:50.158
real? Is that what is that? A stock

01:49:48.158 --> 01:49:51.759
photo or is that them showing a

01:49:50.158 --> 01:49:53.439
photograph of the money they received?

01:49:51.760 --> 01:49:54.400
Cuz I can't imagine they're sending

01:49:53.439 --> 01:49:56.319
bricks of cash.

01:49:54.399 --> 01:49:57.599
>> Oh yeah, absolutely. It's pallets. It's

01:49:56.319 --> 01:49:57.920
called a pallet of cash.

01:49:57.600 --> 01:49:59.280
>> What?

01:49:57.920 --> 01:50:01.359
>> I'm reading through this explanation of

01:49:59.279 --> 01:50:02.639
it from these reports. It's uh he's

01:50:01.359 --> 01:50:03.920
saying exactly what these are all

01:50:02.639 --> 01:50:05.440
saying, but this is a lot of

01:50:03.920 --> 01:50:07.359
>> and I'm not as I'm look

01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:09.118
>> explanation in here.

01:50:07.359 --> 01:50:10.559
>> I got I got a mutual fund. I don't

01:50:09.118 --> 01:50:13.039
understand all the money, but when I see

01:50:10.560 --> 01:50:14.719
here $40 million going overseas,

01:50:13.039 --> 01:50:16.319
>> but in cash too is crazy.

01:50:14.719 --> 01:50:19.198
>> There's no record of it.

01:50:16.319 --> 01:50:21.359
>> Take it and divvy it up and

01:50:19.198 --> 01:50:22.719
>> yeah, this is it every day. The UN is

01:50:21.359 --> 01:50:24.559
responsible for purchasing,

01:50:22.719 --> 01:50:27.039
transporting, and transferring at least

01:50:24.560 --> 01:50:29.119
$2.9 billion in US currency to

01:50:27.039 --> 01:50:31.679
Afghanistan. This was from 2024, I

01:50:29.118 --> 01:50:33.759
think, when this was printed. [laughter]

01:50:31.679 --> 01:50:34.319
>> So that they have to find the cash on,

01:50:33.760 --> 01:50:35.840
you know,

01:50:34.319 --> 01:50:37.759
>> call your senator and say, "I want this

01:50:35.840 --> 01:50:38.800
damn bill on the floor."

01:50:37.760 --> 01:50:40.400
>> Crazy.

01:50:38.800 --> 01:50:42.639
>> It's passed the committee. And it was

01:50:40.399 --> 01:50:44.319
like pulling teeth. It was cuz

01:50:42.639 --> 01:50:45.520
apparently I offended somebody, which

01:50:44.319 --> 01:50:47.279
I'm sure I did now. But

01:50:45.520 --> 01:50:49.679
>> but I don't understand why anybody

01:50:47.279 --> 01:50:52.639
wouldn't recognize that giving money to

01:50:49.679 --> 01:50:54.719
a an organization that hates us, a

01:50:52.639 --> 01:50:55.279
fundamentalist religious organization

01:50:54.719 --> 01:50:56.800
that hates,

01:50:55.279 --> 01:51:00.158
>> they're not a religion. They're not a

01:50:56.800 --> 01:51:00.560
religion. They're a they're a a cult or

01:51:00.158 --> 01:51:01.839
um

01:51:00.560 --> 01:51:03.760
>> yeah, whatever you want to call it.

01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:07.440
Since it first cash shipment, UN has

01:51:03.760 --> 01:51:10.560
made at least 80 purchases of cash for

01:51:07.439 --> 01:51:12.879
transport to Afghanistan. 80 80

01:51:10.560 --> 01:51:14.719
purchases of $40 million. The UN

01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:17.039
reported reported that it began

01:51:14.719 --> 01:51:19.198
purchasing and shipping cash because of

01:51:17.039 --> 01:51:21.198
Afghan's bank's inability to participate

01:51:19.198 --> 01:51:23.439
in international wire transfers and

01:51:21.198 --> 01:51:25.439
Afghanistan's lack of domestic currency

01:51:23.439 --> 01:51:27.439
circulating throughout its economy. Oh,

01:51:25.439 --> 01:51:28.559
so we got to help them out. and give $40

01:51:27.439 --> 01:51:30.399
million a week.

01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:31.920
>> Yeah. And the starving kids are still

01:51:30.399 --> 01:51:33.839
starving and the little orphans aren't

01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:36.399
being taken care of and they're still

01:51:33.840 --> 01:51:37.679
throwing gays off of buildings and

01:51:36.399 --> 01:51:39.359
poking little girls eyes out.

01:51:37.679 --> 01:51:40.800
>> Any gays left? I mean,

01:51:39.359 --> 01:51:42.158
>> well, they got to be in the closet.

01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:44.000
>> They are in the closet. There's a lot of

01:51:42.158 --> 01:51:46.000
that. A lot of pedophilia. I have some

01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:46.399
buddies that served over some horrible

01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:48.238
stories.

01:51:46.399 --> 01:51:51.598
>> Guys wanted to Yeah. Guy was going to

01:51:48.238 --> 01:51:53.118
frag a Afghan general or something one

01:51:51.599 --> 01:51:55.119
time. He told me and he he used to work

01:51:53.118 --> 01:51:57.359
for me and he had he had mental issues

01:51:55.118 --> 01:51:58.479
over it. Oh, it's horrible. Yeah, I've

01:51:57.359 --> 01:51:58.880
heard horrible horrible stories. It's

01:51:58.479 --> 01:52:00.079
just

01:51:58.880 --> 01:52:02.960
>> my dad my dad wouldn't go back to

01:52:00.079 --> 01:52:05.679
Okinawa because of if I can digress

01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:07.039
quickly. Uh they daddy went back for the

01:52:05.679 --> 01:52:09.279
50th anniversary of the invasion of

01:52:07.039 --> 01:52:11.118
Peloo and he said I said you going to go

01:52:09.279 --> 01:52:12.559
back to 50th because you know those

01:52:11.118 --> 01:52:13.920
Marines that's not a lot of those guys

01:52:12.560 --> 01:52:15.679
are left you know and they're all gone

01:52:13.920 --> 01:52:18.399
now. But he said I ain't going to go

01:52:15.679 --> 01:52:19.840
back to Okanawa. And he said he told me

01:52:18.399 --> 01:52:22.559
this story. He said they came over this

01:52:19.840 --> 01:52:24.880
hill and a corsair caught a bunch of

01:52:22.560 --> 01:52:27.280
Japanese out in this field. He's called

01:52:24.880 --> 01:52:28.960
dad called it a lucky strike. Dad love a

01:52:27.279 --> 01:52:31.118
corser. That thing dive at over 400

01:52:28.960 --> 01:52:33.359
miles an hour and just lit them up.

01:52:31.118 --> 01:52:35.839
Caught them out, obliterated them and

01:52:33.359 --> 01:52:38.479
they run up on them and um they had been

01:52:35.840 --> 01:52:41.360
raping some of the islanders or Korean

01:52:38.479 --> 01:52:43.198
girls that they they collected and um

01:52:41.359 --> 01:52:45.198
and I think that messed with my dad all

01:52:43.198 --> 01:52:48.319
the stuff he saw blowing caves and

01:52:45.198 --> 01:52:50.319
shooting people up close and that's what

01:52:48.319 --> 01:52:51.759
he said. I won't go into it because I

01:52:50.319 --> 01:52:55.439
got a daughter that's gonna be watching

01:52:51.760 --> 01:52:58.560
this thing, but um it was and and that's

01:52:55.439 --> 01:53:01.598
that's what scarred my daddy.

01:52:58.560 --> 01:53:04.480
>> You would have loved him. He was

01:53:01.599 --> 01:53:06.639
my buddy uh my buddy Chris Hagerty, he

01:53:04.479 --> 01:53:08.799
got a he got a Acura for Christmas when

01:53:06.639 --> 01:53:11.279
it was a bright red Acura and you know

01:53:08.800 --> 01:53:14.239
Acura's not made in America at the time.

01:53:11.279 --> 01:53:16.000
And dad goes, "Hag," he says, and my

01:53:14.238 --> 01:53:16.959
daddy was a dean at UT, dean of student

01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:19.920
country. He goes, "Where's that thing

01:53:16.960 --> 01:53:22.960
made?" And he goes, "I reckon it's made

01:53:19.920 --> 01:53:24.000
in Japan, CB." And dad goes, "I reckon

01:53:22.960 --> 01:53:25.599
you're going to be parking that thing

01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:27.279
out in the street." Daddy just went back

01:53:25.599 --> 01:53:29.520
in the kitchen. Hag went out and moved

01:53:27.279 --> 01:53:31.920
his actor out on the street. Nobody

01:53:29.520 --> 01:53:33.520
messed with my dad. He was I remember

01:53:31.920 --> 01:53:34.880
the neighbor one time she comes over

01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:36.719
there and said, "Somebody's in my

01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:39.520
house." And I was like, "What?" And I'm

01:53:36.719 --> 01:53:41.439
downstairs and I run upstairs and dad

01:53:39.520 --> 01:53:43.920
runs by me with a Browning High Power. I

01:53:41.439 --> 01:53:45.519
mean, he's probably 70 years old and he

01:53:43.920 --> 01:53:46.800
was clearing that house. He ran in that

01:53:45.520 --> 01:53:48.159
house and I remember mom was on the

01:53:46.800 --> 01:53:50.000
phone. who says, "Don't shoot my

01:53:48.158 --> 01:53:52.438
husband. He's in a blue powder leisure

01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:52.438
suit." [laughter]

01:53:52.880 --> 01:53:57.679
Oh man, he was something else. He was uh

01:53:55.920 --> 01:53:59.199
Yeah, mama was something else, too. They

01:53:57.679 --> 01:54:00.639
were They were They were real

01:53:59.198 --> 01:54:02.559
Christians. So, they weren't bumper

01:54:00.639 --> 01:54:05.359
sticker kind of Christians. People would

01:54:02.560 --> 01:54:07.039
I would uh And I to this day, I don't

01:54:05.359 --> 01:54:09.279
like I love the Waffle House, you know,

01:54:07.039 --> 01:54:11.920
it's America's premier steakhouse. And

01:54:09.279 --> 01:54:14.319
um and I go in there and um and I don't

01:54:11.920 --> 01:54:16.079
I don't like eating breakfast food any

01:54:14.319 --> 01:54:17.279
other time than at breakfast because I

01:54:16.079 --> 01:54:18.639
can always remember as a little boy,

01:54:17.279 --> 01:54:20.479
daddy would always pick up somebody on

01:54:18.639 --> 01:54:22.880
the interstate, somebody broke down,

01:54:20.479 --> 01:54:25.678
black folks, white folks, you know,

01:54:22.880 --> 01:54:27.599
anybody and um or some UT student that

01:54:25.679 --> 01:54:28.800
was having a little rough go and bring

01:54:27.599 --> 01:54:30.800
them to the house and there wouldn't be

01:54:28.800 --> 01:54:32.800
enough hamburgers for me, my brother,

01:54:30.800 --> 01:54:34.320
sister, and I, you know, the five of us.

01:54:32.800 --> 01:54:36.719
And but mama could make enough

01:54:34.319 --> 01:54:38.000
breakfast. And I always knew that daddy

01:54:36.719 --> 01:54:39.118
had brought somebody home and we were

01:54:38.000 --> 01:54:40.800
going to be eating breakfast. We were

01:54:39.118 --> 01:54:42.799
gonna be eating breakfast for supper.

01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:44.239
And that always ticked me off as a kid.

01:54:42.800 --> 01:54:46.320
You know, I didn't understand at the

01:54:44.238 --> 01:54:47.759
time, but now I realize I had pretty

01:54:46.319 --> 01:54:48.479
cool parents. So

01:54:47.760 --> 01:54:49.840
>> that's awesome.

01:54:48.479 --> 01:54:50.319
>> Can I show you a cool picture of my

01:54:49.840 --> 01:54:50.719
mama?

01:54:50.319 --> 01:54:52.238
>> Sure.

01:54:50.719 --> 01:54:55.359
>> She flew an airplane during the Second

01:54:52.238 --> 01:54:56.879
World War. She was um I was hanging out

01:54:55.359 --> 01:54:59.359
with Kid Rock one time, and I'm going to

01:54:56.880 --> 01:55:01.359
use a little language here, Bobby. And

01:54:59.359 --> 01:55:03.359
um and I said, "I know your your thing

01:55:01.359 --> 01:55:04.960
is you're the American badass." I said,

01:55:03.359 --> 01:55:06.639
"But I was raised by the American

01:55:04.960 --> 01:55:08.560
badasses." And I got pictures dad on

01:55:06.639 --> 01:55:10.159
Peloo and Okinawa and with his Thompson

01:55:08.560 --> 01:55:12.159
submachine gun stuff. Here's my mama.

01:55:10.158 --> 01:55:13.198
Somebody colorizes. She's just a little

01:55:12.158 --> 01:55:14.319
country girl.

01:55:13.198 --> 01:55:15.839
>> Wow.

01:55:14.319 --> 01:55:17.920
>> And flying an airplane during the

01:55:15.840 --> 01:55:19.760
second. Her brother Roy who was 33 years

01:55:17.920 --> 01:55:20.158
old got killed in the hedge.

01:55:19.760 --> 01:55:21.840
>> Wow.

01:55:20.158 --> 01:55:22.238
>> She's a beautiful woman. They colorized

01:55:21.840 --> 01:55:23.039
that.

01:55:22.238 --> 01:55:25.839
>> Crazy.

01:55:23.039 --> 01:55:27.279
>> And I'm an unrepentant mama's boy.

01:55:25.840 --> 01:55:28.880
>> That's a crazy picture.

01:55:27.279 --> 01:55:30.000
>> Yeah, that's crazy. She got her foot up

01:55:28.880 --> 01:55:31.760
and I've got a picture of my daughter.

01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:33.198
We were at the air show and the guy had

01:55:31.760 --> 01:55:34.960
a biplane over there and he wasn't going

01:55:33.198 --> 01:55:36.799
to There it is. There it is. That's the

01:55:34.960 --> 01:55:39.920
Oh, thank you, Jamie. You're the man.

01:55:36.800 --> 01:55:42.000
But that's in Nashville. And somebody it

01:55:39.920 --> 01:55:43.039
was National Women's Aviators Day and

01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:45.920
everybody's showing all these pictures

01:55:43.039 --> 01:55:47.679
of these women and I I said, "Well, I'm

01:55:45.920 --> 01:55:49.039
going to have to one up y'all." And I I

01:55:47.679 --> 01:55:50.480
put that up there and somebody sent it

01:55:49.039 --> 01:55:51.840
to me. I didn't know, just a supporter,

01:55:50.479 --> 01:55:54.638
not even in my district. And they

01:55:51.840 --> 01:55:57.039
colorized it for me. Wow. And so I was

01:55:54.639 --> 01:55:58.400
uh you know and that company that I

01:55:57.039 --> 01:56:00.319
can't read the name off of all the

01:55:58.399 --> 01:56:02.079
parachute but I think they're still in

01:56:00.319 --> 01:56:04.399
business and but anyway that was in

01:56:02.079 --> 01:56:07.039
Nashville. You can see they're on dirt

01:56:04.399 --> 01:56:08.799
and um and the the crazy thing was when

01:56:07.039 --> 01:56:10.319
she qualified I don't know how long how

01:56:08.800 --> 01:56:12.800
many how long you got to fly with an

01:56:10.319 --> 01:56:14.880
instructor before you solo. Well, they

01:56:12.800 --> 01:56:17.039
messed up and they did it in half they

01:56:14.880 --> 01:56:18.639
they did the math wrong on it, which was

01:56:17.039 --> 01:56:20.719
crazy because mama was a math teacher,

01:56:18.639 --> 01:56:22.880
but she was a country girl and she she

01:56:20.719 --> 01:56:24.560
was she's in it for the fight and she's

01:56:22.880 --> 01:56:27.520
a lot like my wife. My wife is a

01:56:24.560 --> 01:56:29.440
fighter, too. She um you don't get

01:56:27.520 --> 01:56:33.360
between her, anybody in her family, but

01:56:29.439 --> 01:56:35.839
but um mama um they uh she soloed in

01:56:33.359 --> 01:56:37.759
half the time that she was supposed to.

01:56:35.840 --> 01:56:40.639
And you know, the war's going on and and

01:56:37.760 --> 01:56:42.880
they I've still got her little log book

01:56:40.639 --> 01:56:44.719
and um and they tried to redo the math

01:56:42.880 --> 01:56:46.639
on it and it was wrong. But you know,

01:56:44.719 --> 01:56:47.920
mama just daddy said, "Yeah, I bet she

01:56:46.639 --> 01:56:50.480
cleared out a fence row when she

01:56:47.920 --> 01:56:51.199
landed." And then uh no, she was pretty

01:56:50.479 --> 01:56:54.399
cool.

01:56:51.198 --> 01:56:56.479
>> It's got to be an a terrible slap in the

01:56:54.399 --> 01:56:58.000
face of these people that served in

01:56:56.479 --> 01:56:58.959
Afghanistan to find out that the

01:56:58.000 --> 01:57:00.880
Taliban's getting

01:56:58.960 --> 01:57:04.560
>> my buddy Eli Crane. I just look over at

01:57:00.880 --> 01:57:08.239
him and he's one beautiful human being.

01:57:04.560 --> 01:57:11.199
I love Eli Crane. He is my buddy and um

01:57:08.238 --> 01:57:12.158
um lone survivor. Um

01:57:11.198 --> 01:57:13.839
>> Marcus Latrell.

01:57:12.158 --> 01:57:14.238
>> Yeah. His brother is

01:57:13.840 --> 01:57:16.639
>> Morgan.

01:57:14.238 --> 01:57:18.959
>> Morgan. Yeah. He's the catcher on our on

01:57:16.639 --> 01:57:21.118
our baseball team. And um I was out

01:57:18.960 --> 01:57:22.639
there one day and um we were we we we

01:57:21.118 --> 01:57:24.880
don't actually practice in the best part

01:57:22.639 --> 01:57:26.639
of town. And but we've got security

01:57:24.880 --> 01:57:28.960
everywhere because when they shot Scaliz

01:57:26.639 --> 01:57:32.239
and all those guys years back um we've

01:57:28.960 --> 01:57:36.480
got I feel very secure and heard just

01:57:32.238 --> 01:57:39.279
pop pop and and this young officer DC

01:57:36.479 --> 01:57:41.279
officer said capital policeman said it's

01:57:39.279 --> 01:57:43.519
okay guys I think it's fireworks and

01:57:41.279 --> 01:57:46.079
Morgan took his hat off and goes bett

01:57:43.520 --> 01:57:47.920
that was gunfire and I thought I'm going

01:57:46.079 --> 01:57:49.519
with what Morgan says not going what

01:57:47.920 --> 01:57:52.560
this guy up here says ain't never fired

01:57:49.520 --> 01:57:54.239
a shot in anger and um and I love those

01:57:52.560 --> 01:57:56.400
guys they're wonderful people and I do

01:57:54.238 --> 01:57:58.399
too. I I I hurt for him. I used to hurt

01:57:56.399 --> 01:57:59.839
for my daddy because he would um he'd

01:57:58.399 --> 01:58:00.960
talk about China. They went to China

01:57:59.840 --> 01:58:03.119
after the war and he fought the

01:58:00.960 --> 01:58:06.319
communist over there for a short while

01:58:03.118 --> 01:58:08.319
and then um before he left the Marine

01:58:06.319 --> 01:58:10.000
Corps, but how we just turn them over

01:58:08.319 --> 01:58:12.639
and that he would talk about that and he

01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:15.439
would he would be visibly upset and walk

01:58:12.639 --> 01:58:17.039
away because of that. You know, these we

01:58:15.439 --> 01:58:19.198
just we want to get these wars over and

01:58:17.039 --> 01:58:20.399
we don't we don't deal with the

01:58:19.198 --> 01:58:22.879
repercussions. We don't deal the

01:58:20.399 --> 01:58:26.799
repercussions of we got warriors we need

01:58:22.880 --> 01:58:28.719
to heal and we got to you know and and

01:58:26.800 --> 01:58:31.679
it's just very frustrating to me.

01:58:28.719 --> 01:58:33.359
>> Yeah. Well, you know, kudos to Trump for

01:58:31.679 --> 01:58:35.840
passing this psychedelics bill.

01:58:33.359 --> 01:58:37.598
>> Oh, good gosh. I saw you on that. I love

01:58:35.840 --> 01:58:40.079
that. I I talked because I I didn't know

01:58:37.599 --> 01:58:42.639
anything about it and I and I asked um I

01:58:40.079 --> 01:58:44.079
asked some of those guys about it before

01:58:42.639 --> 01:58:47.599
and they said, "Oh yeah, Burchett, it

01:58:44.079 --> 01:58:49.118
it's I one of one member confided in me

01:58:47.599 --> 01:58:51.279
that he you because he'd been in some of

01:58:49.118 --> 01:58:53.519
the mess and he and I and I told him I

01:58:51.279 --> 01:58:55.519
said, you know, my daddy was had anger

01:58:53.520 --> 01:58:57.280
issues and stuff. He never beat mama or

01:58:55.520 --> 01:58:58.719
me or anybody, but

01:58:57.279 --> 01:58:59.359
>> how could you not?"

01:58:58.719 --> 01:59:00.800
>> I know.

01:58:59.359 --> 01:59:03.519
>> How could you expect That's the crazy

01:59:00.800 --> 01:59:05.360
thing. You expect this of people to do

01:59:03.520 --> 01:59:07.040
horrible things and to see horrible

01:59:05.359 --> 01:59:08.880
things and to come back and just go to

01:59:07.039 --> 01:59:10.639
the grocery store, just be normal. Yeah.

01:59:08.880 --> 01:59:12.079
>> Just sit in traffic, be normal.

01:59:10.639 --> 01:59:13.920
>> I remember one time we were at a UT

01:59:12.079 --> 01:59:16.559
football game and I was a little boy. I

01:59:13.920 --> 01:59:18.480
must have been four or five. And uh

01:59:16.560 --> 01:59:21.280
>> and that we on the 50 yard line. It was

01:59:18.479 --> 01:59:22.959
in the 60s and they they let you bring

01:59:21.279 --> 01:59:24.399
these cowbells and it was the last game

01:59:22.960 --> 01:59:25.760
they let you bring cowbells, too. I

01:59:24.399 --> 01:59:27.439
don't know. probably do it now, but back

01:59:25.760 --> 01:59:29.599
then they they And so this guy was

01:59:27.439 --> 01:59:31.598
sitting behind us and he was drunk and

01:59:29.599 --> 01:59:34.079
he and he took the Lord's name in vain.

01:59:31.599 --> 01:59:35.599
And my daddy said, "Hey." He said, "We

01:59:34.079 --> 01:59:37.679
got ladies down here, you know, my

01:59:35.599 --> 01:59:40.880
sister who was probably seven or eight

01:59:37.679 --> 01:59:42.719
and or and my mama was there." And the

01:59:40.880 --> 01:59:45.760
guy said, "Okay." And then the guy

01:59:42.719 --> 01:59:47.599
spilled his drink on my dad and my mama

01:59:45.760 --> 01:59:49.440
grabbed us all as kids and just rushed

01:59:47.599 --> 01:59:51.119
us out. And and I remembered I was like,

01:59:49.439 --> 01:59:52.879
"No, what's daddy doing?" You know, and

01:59:51.118 --> 01:59:54.158
the UT cops, they love my daddy because

01:59:52.880 --> 01:59:56.239
he was dean of student conduct. He

01:59:54.158 --> 01:59:57.759
always backed them up and um they come

01:59:56.238 --> 01:59:59.919
running down the aisle and literally my

01:59:57.760 --> 02:00:01.760
dad wh beat these guys' ass all three of

01:59:59.920 --> 02:00:03.760
them right there on the 50 yard line at

02:00:01.760 --> 02:00:05.440
Neland Stadium and I was just a little

02:00:03.760 --> 02:00:06.960
boy and I was like he didn't give high

02:00:05.439 --> 02:00:09.279
fives back then but if I had I would

02:00:06.960 --> 02:00:10.639
have given him cuz he was he was pretty

02:00:09.279 --> 02:00:14.639
incredible guy.

02:00:10.639 --> 02:00:16.480
>> Well guys been to war like that man had

02:00:14.639 --> 02:00:18.000
and you come back and

02:00:16.479 --> 02:00:19.839
>> and it wasn't any different than

02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:21.118
thousands of other of his buddies. you

02:00:19.840 --> 02:00:23.279
know, they would get together and talk

02:00:21.118 --> 02:00:24.559
about stuff and and I, you know, we

02:00:23.279 --> 02:00:26.000
didn't drink in the house. My mom and

02:00:24.560 --> 02:00:28.719
daddy didn't let me have a beer can

02:00:26.000 --> 02:00:31.760
collection and daddy's buddy Red Welch

02:00:28.719 --> 02:00:33.359
came over and Red drank beer at the ha

02:00:31.760 --> 02:00:35.440
at the dinner table and it was in the

02:00:33.359 --> 02:00:37.039
80s. I was in I was gosh I was getting

02:00:35.439 --> 02:00:39.359
ready to go to college and that was

02:00:37.039 --> 02:00:41.118
still no beer in the house and Red was

02:00:39.359 --> 02:00:42.238
drinking beer and I said, "Daddy," I

02:00:41.118 --> 02:00:44.479
said, "What's the deal with Red drinking

02:00:42.238 --> 02:00:46.000
beer?" And he said, "Buddy," he said,

02:00:44.479 --> 02:00:47.839
"you get pinned down on one of them

02:00:46.000 --> 02:00:50.079
islands and you got, you know, you're

02:00:47.840 --> 02:00:51.599
going to get you're going to leave this

02:00:50.079 --> 02:00:53.519
earth pretty soon. There's one guy that

02:00:51.599 --> 02:00:55.360
comes running for you. He can do pretty

02:00:53.520 --> 02:00:57.280
much whatever he wants to in your house,

02:00:55.359 --> 02:00:58.799
and that was Red. I found an old picture

02:00:57.279 --> 02:01:01.599
of him and daddy in China the other

02:00:58.800 --> 02:01:02.880
day." But yeah, daddy had um he had a

02:01:01.599 --> 02:01:04.560
great life, though. He had a [snorts]

02:01:02.880 --> 02:01:06.639
great life. Him and mom are both buried

02:01:04.560 --> 02:01:08.880
at Veteran Cemetery there in Knoxville.

02:01:06.639 --> 02:01:11.359
And you know, to this day, I'm 61 years

02:01:08.880 --> 02:01:12.880
old, and if I go up there, I I I think

02:01:11.359 --> 02:01:14.880
about them and their sacrifice, and I

02:01:12.880 --> 02:01:18.319
cry like a baby because I I go to that

02:01:14.880 --> 02:01:20.719
Capitol, Joe, and I see people just that

02:01:18.319 --> 02:01:22.880
are just going to throw it all away.

02:01:20.719 --> 02:01:25.439
Throw it all away. And to me, that's

02:01:22.880 --> 02:01:27.118
just that's that is unforgivable.

02:01:25.439 --> 02:01:30.479
Unforgivable.

02:01:27.118 --> 02:01:31.759
Well, I'm very happy that some of these

02:01:30.479 --> 02:01:35.678
people that have experienced these

02:01:31.760 --> 02:01:36.960
horrible things have at least a pathway

02:01:35.679 --> 02:01:38.719
to relief now.

02:01:36.960 --> 02:01:40.158
>> Yeah. And that is and and thank you for

02:01:38.719 --> 02:01:42.239
getting involved, brother. That is that

02:01:40.158 --> 02:01:43.598
was huge because I couldn't see that

02:01:42.238 --> 02:01:45.598
ever do what?

02:01:43.599 --> 02:01:47.199
>> Thank Rick Perry. Rick Perry and Brian

02:01:45.599 --> 02:01:49.039
Hubard because if it wasn't for them

02:01:47.198 --> 02:01:50.960
explaining to me what they've been

02:01:49.039 --> 02:01:52.399
through and how it's helped people and

02:01:50.960 --> 02:01:54.239
all the other people that I know like

02:01:52.399 --> 02:01:55.679
Marcus Latrell was a friend who's

02:01:54.238 --> 02:01:56.959
>> dude, it wouldn't happen. I talked to

02:01:55.679 --> 02:01:58.560
everybody and they said it wouldn't have

02:01:56.960 --> 02:02:01.118
happened if it wasn't been for you. You

02:01:58.560 --> 02:02:02.239
use that microphone for for good and I

02:02:01.118 --> 02:02:02.719
appreciate it cuz a lot of people

02:02:02.238 --> 02:02:04.959
aren't.

02:02:02.719 --> 02:02:06.800
>> Well, I never asked them for anything

02:02:04.960 --> 02:02:08.560
>> up until that moment. And I was like, if

02:02:06.800 --> 02:02:11.119
there's a thing that I could do that

02:02:08.560 --> 02:02:12.080
might make the world a little bit of a

02:02:11.118 --> 02:02:14.000
better place.

02:02:12.079 --> 02:02:15.439
>> And the fact that those things were made

02:02:14.000 --> 02:02:16.719
illegal in the first place is just

02:02:15.439 --> 02:02:18.238
ridiculous. It should have never

02:02:16.719 --> 02:02:19.840
happened. They should have been studied

02:02:18.238 --> 02:02:21.198
and we could understand how they could

02:02:19.840 --> 02:02:22.480
help people. Especially when you

02:02:21.198 --> 02:02:24.079
consider how many people are on

02:02:22.479 --> 02:02:25.519
anti-depressants in this country.

02:02:24.079 --> 02:02:28.559
>> Wow. It's epidemic.

02:02:25.520 --> 02:02:30.480
>> Tim Wals's daughter, the guy who was

02:02:28.560 --> 02:02:33.199
running for vice president, his daughter

02:02:30.479 --> 02:02:34.559
just made a post on social media where

02:02:33.198 --> 02:02:36.638
she was talking about how she's been on

02:02:34.560 --> 02:02:38.960
them for 15 years and she's realizing

02:02:36.639 --> 02:02:40.639
that they're a real problem and she

02:02:38.960 --> 02:02:42.719
every time she's tried to get off, it's

02:02:40.639 --> 02:02:44.639
been devastating. And I know people that

02:02:42.719 --> 02:02:47.198
have also been on them that they try to

02:02:44.639 --> 02:02:50.159
get off them like my friend Theo Vaughn

02:02:47.198 --> 02:02:51.759
and the roof falls off and like every

02:02:50.158 --> 02:02:53.439
time he starts talking about something

02:02:51.760 --> 02:02:55.280
that drives them crazy, I just got to

02:02:53.439 --> 02:02:57.519
kind of rein them in and just like calm

02:02:55.279 --> 02:02:59.679
down. Like you know if you've had

02:02:57.520 --> 02:03:00.000
friends take their lives and I've had a

02:02:59.679 --> 02:03:01.118
few.

02:03:00.000 --> 02:03:04.079
>> I've had quite a few.

02:03:01.118 --> 02:03:05.679
>> It's a it's a horrible feeling when you

02:03:04.079 --> 02:03:07.519
think about it and you go, "What could I

02:03:05.679 --> 02:03:08.239
have done? What could I have said? How

02:03:07.520 --> 02:03:11.760
could I have?"

02:03:08.238 --> 02:03:13.118
>> And and so much so we don't know. Um,

02:03:11.760 --> 02:03:14.800
my oldest friend in the world, a guy

02:03:13.118 --> 02:03:16.719
named Scott Davis. He and I were at

02:03:14.800 --> 02:03:19.039
Little Red Schoolhouse together. His his

02:03:16.719 --> 02:03:20.480
brother took his life and he was dep he

02:03:19.039 --> 02:03:22.639
suffered from depression. And this was

02:03:20.479 --> 02:03:24.559
in the 80s and we didn't understand it.

02:03:22.639 --> 02:03:26.800
You know, I was with a guy yesterday,

02:03:24.560 --> 02:03:29.199
one of his best friends, Ben Testerman.

02:03:26.800 --> 02:03:31.520
He was telling me, you know, I I talked

02:03:29.198 --> 02:03:33.519
to him, you know, we I came home, he was

02:03:31.520 --> 02:03:35.440
he's a professional uh tennis player,

02:03:33.520 --> 02:03:37.040
and he came home and was talking to

02:03:35.439 --> 02:03:39.118
Jeff, and he said, he said, I just feel

02:03:37.039 --> 02:03:40.639
like I'm in a hole, and nobody gets

02:03:39.118 --> 02:03:42.639
that. And and and people will say to

02:03:40.639 --> 02:03:45.199
them, I hear people all the time say

02:03:42.639 --> 02:03:47.118
>> say, "Hey, uh just get over it, man."

02:03:45.198 --> 02:03:48.799
You know, go for a jog, man. There's

02:03:47.118 --> 02:03:50.158
some freaking chemical imbalance that we

02:03:48.800 --> 02:03:52.480
don't Something has happened that's

02:03:50.158 --> 02:03:54.960
jarred them that we don't understand.

02:03:52.479 --> 02:03:57.039
And that is if if there's one avenue

02:03:54.960 --> 02:03:59.679
that gets it, you know, and but big

02:03:57.039 --> 02:04:01.359
pharma again, big egg, big farmer, it's

02:03:59.679 --> 02:04:02.399
like hemp. Yeah. Why the hell are we not

02:04:01.359 --> 02:04:03.519
growing hemp, right?

02:04:02.399 --> 02:04:05.198
>> It just drives me crazy.

02:04:03.520 --> 02:04:07.040
>> It drives me crazy as well. It doesn't

02:04:05.198 --> 02:04:08.638
make any sense, especially when you find

02:04:07.039 --> 02:04:10.560
out all the stuff that is legal. It's

02:04:08.639 --> 02:04:11.440
like have some consistency. It doesn't

02:04:10.560 --> 02:04:12.960
make any sense.

02:04:11.439 --> 02:04:14.238
>> How many people do we lose every year?

02:04:12.960 --> 02:04:16.239
And a lot of my friends are in the

02:04:14.238 --> 02:04:18.238
alcohol business, but it's a personal

02:04:16.238 --> 02:04:19.839
responsibility issue with me. You know,

02:04:18.238 --> 02:04:21.118
if you do it, it's your business, but if

02:04:19.840 --> 02:04:22.880
you break the law, Yes.

02:04:21.118 --> 02:04:24.880
>> you know, you're going to the hooch gal.

02:04:22.880 --> 02:04:26.000
>> Yeah. And listen, I'm not a big drinker,

02:04:24.880 --> 02:04:27.279
but I think you should be allowed to

02:04:26.000 --> 02:04:28.319
drink. I think I don't think there's

02:04:27.279 --> 02:04:29.359
anything wrong with being allowed to

02:04:28.319 --> 02:04:30.479
smoke cigarettes. If that's what you

02:04:29.359 --> 02:04:32.719
want to do, you should be able to do it.

02:04:30.479 --> 02:04:34.238
I believe in freedom. But I don't I

02:04:32.719 --> 02:04:35.760
think we should be consistent. and the

02:04:34.238 --> 02:04:37.519
fact that there's these things that

02:04:35.760 --> 02:04:39.039
could help people that are suffering

02:04:37.520 --> 02:04:40.960
from depression, that are suffering from

02:04:39.039 --> 02:04:45.279
opioid addiction, that are suffering

02:04:40.960 --> 02:04:46.560
from all sorts of PTSD and CTE and that

02:04:45.279 --> 02:04:48.800
we have this thing that we've known

02:04:46.560 --> 02:04:51.280
about for decades, and the only person

02:04:48.800 --> 02:04:53.360
the courage to try to push an executive

02:04:51.279 --> 02:04:54.399
order is Trump. And if I

02:04:53.359 --> 02:04:57.920
>> again help that

02:04:54.399 --> 02:05:00.399
>> again, he is he is enemy number one with

02:04:57.920 --> 02:05:02.239
a lot of those people. Well, I mean,

02:05:00.399 --> 02:05:03.679
thank God he's got the kind of courage

02:05:02.238 --> 02:05:06.079
that he has to push stuff like that

02:05:03.679 --> 02:05:08.158
through because it's going to change a

02:05:06.079 --> 02:05:09.679
lot of humans lives, a lot of veterans

02:05:08.158 --> 02:05:11.439
lives, a lot of first responders, a lot

02:05:09.679 --> 02:05:13.760
of police officers, a lot of people that

02:05:11.439 --> 02:05:15.039
have experienced violent crime and just

02:05:13.760 --> 02:05:17.440
it's going to change a lot of people.

02:05:15.039 --> 02:05:20.238
>> Women that have been abused and all the

02:05:17.439 --> 02:05:21.759
above and they're not like going to be

02:05:20.238 --> 02:05:23.919
walking around like some kind of crazy

02:05:21.760 --> 02:05:25.440
zombies thing. It's a it's a very

02:05:23.920 --> 02:05:27.520
controlled thing. And

02:05:25.439 --> 02:05:29.439
>> especially Ibagane. Ibeane is not

02:05:27.520 --> 02:05:31.040
recreational in any shape or form. No

02:05:29.439 --> 02:05:32.158
one's taken it recreationally. I've

02:05:31.039 --> 02:05:34.000
never done it, but I've heard it's a

02:05:32.158 --> 02:05:35.759
terrible experience, but you come out on

02:05:34.000 --> 02:05:37.439
the other end of it. And

02:05:35.760 --> 02:05:39.840
>> Rick Perry was also talking about how

02:05:37.439 --> 02:05:41.598
he's experienced natural brain atrophy

02:05:39.840 --> 02:05:43.520
being a man in his 70s. Yeah.

02:05:41.599 --> 02:05:45.199
>> He went and got an examination after he

02:05:43.520 --> 02:05:47.599
did it and his brain atrophy had dropped

02:05:45.198 --> 02:05:50.559
by 25%. He went back in 6 months later.

02:05:47.599 --> 02:05:52.400
It was all gone. Just that alone. Wow.

02:05:50.560 --> 02:05:54.639
Think about all the elderly people out

02:05:52.399 --> 02:05:55.839
there that are suffering for memory loss

02:05:54.639 --> 02:05:58.560
and all these different issues that

02:05:55.840 --> 02:06:00.960
people have that that could fix them and

02:05:58.560 --> 02:06:02.800
that it's literally just one experience

02:06:00.960 --> 02:06:05.198
that you have that takes 12 hours and

02:06:02.800 --> 02:06:06.800
when it's over you're better. That's

02:06:05.198 --> 02:06:08.638
crazy. And that we've keep kept this

02:06:06.800 --> 02:06:09.440
from people. There's no chance of people

02:06:08.639 --> 02:06:11.118
being addicted.

02:06:09.439 --> 02:06:12.319
>> The money somebody wants to control.

02:06:11.118 --> 02:06:14.559
>> But at some point in time we've got to

02:06:12.319 --> 02:06:16.079
be human. All these money people have to

02:06:14.560 --> 02:06:18.239
realize you're you only have a certain

02:06:16.079 --> 02:06:18.960
amount of time on on this planet. need

02:06:18.238 --> 02:06:20.399
to shut them out

02:06:18.960 --> 02:06:22.480
>> and you have an opportunity to make the

02:06:20.399 --> 02:06:25.519
world a better place. And we got to say

02:06:22.479 --> 02:06:28.718
no to people that just want personal

02:06:25.520 --> 02:06:30.400
>> money. They just want personal funds

02:06:28.719 --> 02:06:31.599
that going to go to their money that's

02:06:30.399 --> 02:06:32.879
going to go to their bank accounts,

02:06:31.599 --> 02:06:35.840
going to go to their company, their

02:06:32.880 --> 02:06:38.319
corporation, personal benefit, and at

02:06:35.840 --> 02:06:40.880
the expense of who knows how many

02:06:38.319 --> 02:06:42.399
people, including literal heroes.

02:06:40.880 --> 02:06:44.000
>> When's enough for those guys?

02:06:42.399 --> 02:06:45.759
>> Yeah. When is enough enough? I mean,

02:06:44.000 --> 02:06:47.760
this is the same feeling that I have

02:06:45.760 --> 02:06:50.159
about this disclosure stuff. Like I

02:06:47.760 --> 02:06:54.000
don't care what it's going to affect. I

02:06:50.158 --> 02:06:56.479
don't care like if there's real things

02:06:54.000 --> 02:06:59.840
out there that we don't know about. You

02:06:56.479 --> 02:07:01.919
as a human being have no right to keep

02:06:59.840 --> 02:07:05.039
that from the rest of humanity. There's

02:07:01.920 --> 02:07:06.880
I don't care what your title is. I don't

02:07:05.039 --> 02:07:09.519
care what three-letter organization you

02:07:06.880 --> 02:07:11.199
work for. You're a human being and you

02:07:09.520 --> 02:07:13.360
have an obligation to the other human

02:07:11.198 --> 02:07:15.039
beings to alert us. The fact that

02:07:13.359 --> 02:07:16.078
there's people that have if this is real

02:07:15.039 --> 02:07:17.439
and there's people that have gone to

02:07:16.078 --> 02:07:18.880
their grave with this information that

02:07:17.439 --> 02:07:21.678
would literally change the course of

02:07:18.880 --> 02:07:22.400
human history. That's a crime. It's a

02:07:21.679 --> 02:07:24.880
real crime.

02:07:22.399 --> 02:07:26.399
>> Could you imagine the poor countries,

02:07:24.880 --> 02:07:28.078
the people that suffer, you know, the

02:07:26.399 --> 02:07:31.198
deserts and things like that if you

02:07:28.078 --> 02:07:33.118
could you could cool their huts or

02:07:31.198 --> 02:07:35.279
whatever and we get out of these

02:07:33.118 --> 02:07:37.198
worthless wars which are over oil all

02:07:35.279 --> 02:07:39.679
the time, right? And it just it would

02:07:37.198 --> 02:07:40.399
end it all in just a stroke of the pen

02:07:39.679 --> 02:07:42.639
almost.

02:07:40.399 --> 02:07:43.039
>> What do you think it is like when when

02:07:42.639 --> 02:07:46.000
you

02:07:43.039 --> 02:07:47.198
>> I've I go back and forth. I I know it's

02:07:46.000 --> 02:07:48.639
a little crazy and this will probably

02:07:47.198 --> 02:07:50.000
cost me action because they've tried to

02:07:48.639 --> 02:07:51.679
use it against me in the past.

02:07:50.000 --> 02:07:54.158
>> It will only help you at this point.

02:07:51.679 --> 02:07:56.480
>> Well, I think um I think we need to look

02:07:54.158 --> 02:07:58.000
at these deep water areas. I have a hard

02:07:56.479 --> 02:08:00.399
time believing that something can travel

02:07:58.000 --> 02:08:01.359
light years in some suspended state.

02:08:00.399 --> 02:08:03.679
They have to be in some kind of

02:08:01.359 --> 02:08:06.639
suspended state. So, I have a trouble

02:08:03.679 --> 02:08:08.239
with that. Um, those five gentlemen that

02:08:06.639 --> 02:08:10.800
came to my house, four or five, they

02:08:08.238 --> 02:08:13.359
came to my house that time, they were

02:08:10.800 --> 02:08:16.000
talking about a moon that was around

02:08:13.359 --> 02:08:18.078
Saturn or Jupiter that they done some

02:08:16.000 --> 02:08:20.399
testing with that they that they think

02:08:18.078 --> 02:08:22.158
would be capable of something. And the

02:08:20.399 --> 02:08:23.598
moon was larger than our Earth, of

02:08:22.158 --> 02:08:25.039
course. But, um,

02:08:23.599 --> 02:08:25.520
>> there's a moon that's larger than our

02:08:25.039 --> 02:08:27.359
Earth.

02:08:25.520 --> 02:08:28.719
>> Yeah. Around Jupiter or Saturn, I

02:08:27.359 --> 02:08:29.519
>> That doesn't make any sense. I don't

02:08:28.719 --> 02:08:30.800
think that's correct.

02:08:29.520 --> 02:08:32.480
>> Yeah, maybe I'm wrong. Check it out.

02:08:30.800 --> 02:08:34.159
>> Yeah. No, no, no. There's no moons that

02:08:32.479 --> 02:08:35.118
are larger than a planet.

02:08:34.158 --> 02:08:36.559
>> No, it's not.

02:08:35.118 --> 02:08:36.880
>> I don't think so. Our planet.

02:08:36.560 --> 02:08:38.320
>> Well,

02:08:36.880 --> 02:08:40.319
>> I don't believe that's true.

02:08:38.319 --> 02:08:40.719
>> Circles around it. I don't know. Anyway,

02:08:40.319 --> 02:08:42.319
I'm wrong.

02:08:40.719 --> 02:08:43.599
>> Is that Is that accurate?

02:08:42.319 --> 02:08:45.279
>> Do I not know about this?

02:08:43.599 --> 02:08:46.639
>> Says Earth's moon, though.

02:08:45.279 --> 02:08:48.399
>> Yeah, but there's not I don't believe

02:08:46.639 --> 02:08:49.199
there's a moon out there that's larger

02:08:48.399 --> 02:08:50.479
than our planet.

02:08:49.198 --> 02:08:52.078
>> These guys seem to think that something

02:08:50.479 --> 02:08:54.238
could travel from there. And it was the

02:08:52.078 --> 02:08:56.158
quantum physics. I you know after

02:08:54.238 --> 02:08:57.839
talking to that admiral you know it

02:08:56.158 --> 02:08:59.839
makes me wonder if there is something in

02:08:57.840 --> 02:09:01.599
these deep ocean areas that the old

02:08:59.840 --> 02:09:03.599
cliche we know more about the surface of

02:09:01.599 --> 02:09:06.078
the moon than we do the surface the

02:09:03.599 --> 02:09:08.078
ocean floor in some areas I think is

02:09:06.078 --> 02:09:10.158
true because we're not down there

02:09:08.078 --> 02:09:13.118
>> logically this is that's the one place

02:09:10.158 --> 02:09:14.559
where we don't go and it covers 75% of

02:09:13.118 --> 02:09:17.198
the earth at least right

02:09:14.560 --> 02:09:19.840
>> and if you wanted to hide that would be

02:09:17.198 --> 02:09:22.238
I mean if you were monitoring humans

02:09:19.840 --> 02:09:25.599
let's say that humans are on this path

02:09:22.238 --> 02:09:27.198
of technological evolution and then they

02:09:25.599 --> 02:09:29.920
recognize that humans have split the

02:09:27.198 --> 02:09:33.118
atom. We've developed atomic weapons and

02:09:29.920 --> 02:09:34.880
we've used them and they want to make

02:09:33.118 --> 02:09:36.799
sure that we don't blow up the entire

02:09:34.880 --> 02:09:40.560
planet before we achieve some sort of

02:09:36.800 --> 02:09:43.279
enlightenment, before we bypass whatever

02:09:40.560 --> 02:09:45.280
territorial primate

02:09:43.279 --> 02:09:47.118
monkey brain stuff that we have that's

02:09:45.279 --> 02:09:48.238
causing us to have all these wars and do

02:09:47.118 --> 02:09:49.118
all these things that we shouldn't be

02:09:48.238 --> 02:09:50.799
doing.

02:09:49.118 --> 02:09:52.399
>> And that we're on our way. We're getting

02:09:50.800 --> 02:09:53.760
better. We're clearly better than we

02:09:52.399 --> 02:09:55.839
were a thousand years ago and better

02:09:53.760 --> 02:09:57.679
than we were 3,000 years ago. We're on

02:09:55.840 --> 02:10:00.078
our way to being a more advanced

02:09:57.679 --> 02:10:01.760
civilization, but it's possible that we

02:10:00.078 --> 02:10:03.759
could screw it all up at any point in

02:10:01.760 --> 02:10:05.360
time and blow ourselves to smitherines.

02:10:03.760 --> 02:10:06.000
I would imagine they would want to

02:10:05.359 --> 02:10:07.679
monitor us.

02:10:06.000 --> 02:10:09.520
>> One maniac in Iran. Yeah.

02:10:07.679 --> 02:10:11.920
>> If they hadn't had stopped that their

02:10:09.520 --> 02:10:13.840
nuclear I'm convinced that they're I

02:10:11.920 --> 02:10:15.199
mean they were out for Armageddon.

02:10:13.840 --> 02:10:16.319
They'd have launched something. They had

02:10:15.198 --> 02:10:18.078
the capabilities to go all the way to

02:10:16.319 --> 02:10:20.719
England. I think if they put one close

02:10:18.078 --> 02:10:22.639
to Israel, it'd be over. And you know,

02:10:20.719 --> 02:10:24.880
people like North Korea who have

02:10:22.639 --> 02:10:26.719
terrible technology on missiles, the

02:10:24.880 --> 02:10:28.719
biggest threat there was if they put one

02:10:26.719 --> 02:10:31.520
up in the air that the nuclear cloud

02:10:28.719 --> 02:10:33.599
could blow over China. And so there's

02:10:31.520 --> 02:10:34.719
that could have had some incredible bad

02:10:33.599 --> 02:10:35.840
repercussions.

02:10:34.719 --> 02:10:36.960
>> Well, the fact that there's so many

02:10:35.840 --> 02:10:38.480
different countries that have nuclear

02:10:36.960 --> 02:10:39.840
weapons and we're just relying on these

02:10:38.479 --> 02:10:40.319
people to keep their together is

02:10:39.840 --> 02:10:42.239
nuts.

02:10:40.319 --> 02:10:45.279
>> It's nuts. Completely nuts.

02:10:42.238 --> 02:10:48.319
>> And and they're and they're maniacs.

02:10:45.279 --> 02:10:50.319
>> Yeah. Well, it's it makes sense that if

02:10:48.319 --> 02:10:52.479
you were a super advanced life form from

02:10:50.319 --> 02:10:54.559
wherever, that if you wanted to have

02:10:52.479 --> 02:10:56.238
base, some sort of a base where you'd

02:10:54.560 --> 02:10:57.760
monitor us, it would be in the ocean.

02:10:56.238 --> 02:10:59.678
You'd be right there. You could get out

02:10:57.760 --> 02:11:01.119
of it real quick and go to wherever you

02:10:59.679 --> 02:11:02.800
wanted to go.

02:11:01.118 --> 02:11:05.118
>> Orbs was the thing I was thinking of

02:11:02.800 --> 02:11:07.039
earlier. Orbs. That's that's the new

02:11:05.118 --> 02:11:08.799
word that you hear a lot of. And it's

02:11:07.039 --> 02:11:09.840
getting away from saucers and

02:11:08.800 --> 02:11:11.199
>> Well, there's a lot of weird stuff with

02:11:09.840 --> 02:11:12.078
orbs where people say that they could

02:11:11.198 --> 02:11:14.399
summon them.

02:11:12.078 --> 02:11:16.000
>> Yeah, I'm I'm not on that. There's

02:11:14.399 --> 02:11:19.279
someone a friend of mine wants me to go

02:11:16.000 --> 02:11:21.359
and do it with her. She's she's uh my

02:11:19.279 --> 02:11:22.559
friend's wife is like experienced it and

02:11:21.359 --> 02:11:23.279
she's like, "You got to try it." I'm

02:11:22.560 --> 02:11:24.320
like, "Oh,

02:11:23.279 --> 02:11:25.679
>> now that to me is

02:11:24.319 --> 02:11:27.599
>> I'll I'll say who it is when she comes

02:11:25.679 --> 02:11:28.719
on the podcast next. I don't know. I

02:11:27.599 --> 02:11:29.840
don't know. I don't have permission to

02:11:28.719 --> 02:11:31.679
talk about it. I don't know if she wants

02:11:29.840 --> 02:11:33.440
me to talk about it, but

02:11:31.679 --> 02:11:33.840
>> uh I'm like, "Okay, what do we got to

02:11:33.439 --> 02:11:36.078
do?"

02:11:33.840 --> 02:11:37.840
>> Be careful about the sex cult.

02:11:36.078 --> 02:11:38.158
>> Well, she's not. That's not I'm worried

02:11:37.840 --> 02:11:39.520
about that.

02:11:38.158 --> 02:11:40.638
>> I know. You're a good-look guy, Joe.

02:11:39.520 --> 02:11:41.520
>> No, no, no. She's

02:11:40.639 --> 02:11:43.760
>> She might be digging you.

02:11:41.520 --> 02:11:45.199
>> No, no, no, no, no, no. This ain't that.

02:11:43.760 --> 02:11:47.679
This is not that. She's been my friend

02:11:45.198 --> 02:11:48.559
for 20 years. It's not She's married to

02:11:47.679 --> 02:11:50.399
my friend. She has kids. Now,

02:11:48.560 --> 02:11:52.239
>> I'm saying the angle that they use.

02:11:50.399 --> 02:11:55.039
>> Well, this lady's not that. She's a

02:11:52.238 --> 02:11:57.359
comedian. This is not that.

02:11:55.039 --> 02:12:00.800
>> Uh is But there are a lot of kooky

02:11:57.359 --> 02:12:03.118
people that do uh have sex cults. That

02:12:00.800 --> 02:12:04.480
the sex cult every cult turns into a sex

02:12:03.118 --> 02:12:05.039
cult, right?

02:12:04.479 --> 02:12:06.879
>> Power.

02:12:05.039 --> 02:12:08.960
>> You know, I almost bought a building in

02:12:06.880 --> 02:12:09.599
Austin that was owned by a cult.

02:12:08.960 --> 02:12:11.520
>> No, really?

02:12:09.599 --> 02:12:14.480
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um, the original comedy

02:12:11.520 --> 02:12:16.079
Mothership was uh the original location

02:12:14.479 --> 02:12:18.158
was a place called the One World

02:12:16.078 --> 02:12:21.039
Theater. The One World Theater was owned

02:12:18.158 --> 02:12:22.960
by this cult. And uh I kind of knew

02:12:21.039 --> 02:12:25.279
about it because Ron White told me about

02:12:22.960 --> 02:12:28.639
it cuz they had this theater that they

02:12:25.279 --> 02:12:30.559
built to uh so that their leader can

02:12:28.639 --> 02:12:33.039
perform in front of them. And then the

02:12:30.560 --> 02:12:34.800
cult got disbanded. The cult there's a

02:12:33.039 --> 02:12:38.238
documentary about the cult called Holy

02:12:34.800 --> 02:12:39.760
Hell. And uh yeah, it's crazy. It's cra

02:12:38.238 --> 02:12:42.479
but it's a sex cult. There was a guy who

02:12:39.760 --> 02:12:44.719
is a, get this, he started out in

02:12:42.479 --> 02:12:47.279
California and he was a gay porn star

02:12:44.719 --> 02:12:48.560
and a hypnotist, which is a wonderful

02:12:47.279 --> 02:12:49.279
combination if you want to start a club

02:12:48.560 --> 02:12:52.639
>> like you do.

02:12:49.279 --> 02:12:54.158
>> Yeah. And also a yoga teacher. So, he

02:12:52.639 --> 02:12:55.840
starts out teaching these people yoga.

02:12:54.158 --> 02:12:56.799
And I don't know if I've ever taken yoga

02:12:55.840 --> 02:12:58.719
before.

02:12:56.800 --> 02:13:00.239
>> I've taken a bunch of yoga classes with

02:12:58.719 --> 02:13:02.158
bunch of different instructors and most

02:13:00.238 --> 02:13:05.439
of them have been amazing, but a few of

02:13:02.158 --> 02:13:06.960
them were very culty. Very culty. And

02:13:05.439 --> 02:13:08.559
there's this one guy that I took classes

02:13:06.960 --> 02:13:10.480
from way back in the day, like more than

02:13:08.560 --> 02:13:12.000
20 years ago. And he was in California

02:13:10.479 --> 02:13:13.359
and he was sleeping with a bunch of the

02:13:12.000 --> 02:13:13.920
ladies that were there. And he was kind

02:13:13.359 --> 02:13:16.078
of

02:13:13.920 --> 02:13:18.719
>> he was kind of like a cult guy. Like he

02:13:16.078 --> 02:13:21.359
was like following him into it,

02:13:18.719 --> 02:13:23.520
>> singing singing stupid songs, but it was

02:13:21.359 --> 02:13:26.000
like very full of himself. It was gross.

02:13:23.520 --> 02:13:27.360
He was gross. And you know, everything

02:13:26.000 --> 02:13:28.639
wound up falling apart for that guy. But

02:13:27.359 --> 02:13:30.880
>> then he ran for Congress. And

02:13:28.639 --> 02:13:32.639
>> yeah, but there's a lot of these people

02:13:30.880 --> 02:13:34.480
that for whatever reason, that's where

02:13:32.639 --> 02:13:35.840
it all boils down to. They want to have

02:13:34.479 --> 02:13:37.759
sex with everybody's wife and they want

02:13:35.840 --> 02:13:39.760
to run and everything and they want, you

02:13:37.760 --> 02:13:41.679
know, run-of-the-mill and have, you

02:13:39.760 --> 02:13:43.280
know, it's very strange. But

02:13:41.679 --> 02:13:44.800
>> that's where the demonic stuff comes in

02:13:43.279 --> 02:13:46.238
with Christians. When you call these

02:13:44.800 --> 02:13:47.440
things down, they

02:13:46.238 --> 02:13:49.439
>> Well, why do you think that that has to

02:13:47.439 --> 02:13:50.479
do with sex cults? Why would the aliens

02:13:49.439 --> 02:13:51.759
have to do with what?

02:13:50.479 --> 02:13:53.678
>> I don't think it's the aliens. I think

02:13:51.760 --> 02:13:58.239
it's um I just think some people are

02:13:53.679 --> 02:13:59.840
abusing the people's they think that

02:13:58.238 --> 02:14:02.959
they're they're using their belief in

02:13:59.840 --> 02:14:03.599
UFOs to draw them in and to some sort of

02:14:02.960 --> 02:14:05.279
thing. And

02:14:03.599 --> 02:14:06.078
>> have you knowledge of this kind of

02:14:05.279 --> 02:14:06.399
stuff?

02:14:06.078 --> 02:14:08.238
>> Yeah.

02:14:06.399 --> 02:14:08.638
>> No, I get all of it. I hear about all of

02:14:08.238 --> 02:14:10.158
it. I

02:14:08.639 --> 02:14:10.639
>> can you name names? Can you talk about

02:14:10.158 --> 02:14:11.839
like

02:14:10.639 --> 02:14:13.118
>> not on the air? Okay.

02:14:11.840 --> 02:14:18.078
>> I don't want to get sued.

02:14:13.118 --> 02:14:20.000
>> Okay. Um, so the underwater bases uh or

02:14:18.078 --> 02:14:21.599
the underwater

02:14:20.000 --> 02:14:24.960
this what an admiral told me. Okay.

02:14:21.599 --> 02:14:26.560
>> So, did he say locations that these

02:14:24.960 --> 02:14:28.000
things are coming from or is there an

02:14:26.560 --> 02:14:29.440
actual physical base that they've

02:14:28.000 --> 02:14:32.238
observed?

02:14:29.439 --> 02:14:34.078
He said that the

02:14:32.238 --> 02:14:36.959
they don't have the capabilities to get

02:14:34.078 --> 02:14:39.198
down that deep actually. Um but they did

02:14:36.960 --> 02:14:42.239
say that that the sightings were

02:14:39.198 --> 02:14:44.879
happening in about in in I think four of

02:14:42.238 --> 02:14:46.799
the five deep water areas around our

02:14:44.880 --> 02:14:48.319
world. And so,

02:14:46.800 --> 02:14:50.400
>> and he didn't have any other, you know,

02:14:48.319 --> 02:14:52.639
and then I was on talking about it and

02:14:50.399 --> 02:14:54.879
somebody said Tim Burchett says that

02:14:52.639 --> 02:14:57.920
they're underwater bases, you know, and

02:14:54.880 --> 02:15:00.239
then um, you know, and they they had uh

02:14:57.920 --> 02:15:02.000
Gates was on the other day and he so he

02:15:00.238 --> 02:15:04.000
was he was briefed. I just told what I

02:15:02.000 --> 02:15:07.039
was briefed on and he was briefed by a

02:15:04.000 --> 02:15:09.599
guy that said it was in in uniform that

02:15:07.039 --> 02:15:11.760
said that they were breeding um they

02:15:09.599 --> 02:15:14.400
were capturing people and breeding them

02:15:11.760 --> 02:15:16.800
with with these aliens. And you know, he

02:15:14.399 --> 02:15:19.039
just talked. So yeah, he was on you can

02:15:16.800 --> 02:15:21.360
pull it up. I mean Matt Gates, he talked

02:15:19.039 --> 02:15:22.880
about it. He didn't say he believed it,

02:15:21.359 --> 02:15:24.000
but you know, we talk about we get

02:15:22.880 --> 02:15:26.400
briefed on. That's what I'm talking

02:15:24.000 --> 02:15:29.118
about. The scop they here's part of the

02:15:26.399 --> 02:15:30.879
problem, too. They bring you information

02:15:29.118 --> 02:15:32.078
and you go forward with this and this

02:15:30.880 --> 02:15:34.319
is, oh, this is the truth. You know,

02:15:32.078 --> 02:15:36.719
these underwater bases, whatever, and

02:15:34.319 --> 02:15:38.319
then they prove it doesn't exist, and

02:15:36.719 --> 02:15:40.078
then they just discredit you and they

02:15:38.319 --> 02:15:42.399
discredit the whole movement. So that's

02:15:40.078 --> 02:15:45.679
why I'm very cautious anytime anybody

02:15:42.399 --> 02:15:48.638
brings me any information or pictures or

02:15:45.679 --> 02:15:49.920
>> testimony or you know third cousins

02:15:48.639 --> 02:15:52.159
recollection.

02:15:49.920 --> 02:15:53.920
>> Yeah, that is the disinformation thing

02:15:52.158 --> 02:15:55.598
is a problem. They'll tell you some

02:15:53.920 --> 02:15:58.239
truth and mix it in with some really

02:15:55.599 --> 02:15:59.760
kooky stuff and then you say the kooky

02:15:58.238 --> 02:16:01.678
stuff along with it and the kooky stuff

02:15:59.760 --> 02:16:02.159
just discredits everything that's true.

02:16:01.679 --> 02:16:04.239
>> Yeah.

02:16:02.158 --> 02:16:07.679
>> Yeah. And Lazar talked about that too.

02:16:04.238 --> 02:16:09.759
He said they would tell people certain

02:16:07.679 --> 02:16:11.359
things that weren't true and they would

02:16:09.760 --> 02:16:13.440
tell different people different things

02:16:11.359 --> 02:16:15.198
that weren't true. So if the story got

02:16:13.439 --> 02:16:17.919
leaked out, they would know who leaked

02:16:15.198 --> 02:16:19.919
it. It was like a hook. So that anchor

02:16:17.920 --> 02:16:22.158
would be like, "Oh, that was Mike. Mike

02:16:19.920 --> 02:16:24.158
told the story." That's when I've uh I

02:16:22.158 --> 02:16:27.039
always warn our other members when we go

02:16:24.158 --> 02:16:29.839
into the skiff and talk about stuff that

02:16:27.039 --> 02:16:31.679
that you know this that's first time

02:16:29.840 --> 02:16:33.359
I've ever heard that one or or that's

02:16:31.679 --> 02:16:35.120
that's sort of what we heard the last

02:16:33.359 --> 02:16:36.960
time [snorts] and then I said everybody

02:16:35.120 --> 02:16:39.519
just be real careful with it because if

02:16:36.959 --> 02:16:42.318
it if it gets out then they'll come

02:16:39.519 --> 02:16:44.478
after you or if it they want it to get

02:16:42.318 --> 02:16:46.558
out so they can discredit you and make

02:16:44.478 --> 02:16:48.799
you look like a fool. So they talk to

02:16:46.558 --> 02:16:51.199
you about deep water areas where

02:16:48.799 --> 02:16:53.438
sightings occur and so it's just a

02:16:51.200 --> 02:16:55.200
presumption that somewhere in that deep

02:16:53.439 --> 02:16:55.599
water they're emanating from that

02:16:55.200 --> 02:16:58.000
they're

02:16:55.599 --> 02:17:00.719
>> well he also he described um

02:16:58.000 --> 02:17:03.619
>> it is Gat Gates claims whistleblower

02:17:00.718 --> 02:17:04.928
told him of alien human hybrid program.

02:17:03.619 --> 02:17:06.719
[laughter]

02:17:04.929 --> 02:17:08.960
[gasps] The alleged program involved

02:17:06.718 --> 02:17:11.518
captured extraterrestrials mating with

02:17:08.959 --> 02:17:14.879
abducted humans from war zones and

02:17:11.519 --> 02:17:17.519
migrant caravans to create hybrids for

02:17:14.879 --> 02:17:19.598
intergalactic communication. He claimed

02:17:17.519 --> 02:17:22.639
the whistleblower identified between six

02:17:19.599 --> 02:17:24.719
and 12 such facilities in the US and

02:17:22.638 --> 02:17:27.039
sought coordinated congressional visits

02:17:24.718 --> 02:17:29.598
to prevent relocation of the activities

02:17:27.040 --> 02:17:32.399
though Gates did not verify any of the

02:17:29.599 --> 02:17:34.398
information. How could you [laughter]

02:17:32.398 --> 02:17:35.679
ver you going to talk to the hybrids?

02:17:34.398 --> 02:17:37.119
Yeah. Also,

02:17:35.679 --> 02:17:37.920
>> I just want to go I just want to go to

02:17:37.120 --> 02:17:39.200
the t-shirt shop.

02:17:37.920 --> 02:17:40.079
>> Yeah, the pastor's thing that I sent

02:17:39.200 --> 02:17:42.240
you, Jamie.

02:17:40.079 --> 02:17:44.239
>> Yeah, that's bonkers. Think about

02:17:42.239 --> 02:17:46.398
>> I don't buy that. I don't

02:17:44.239 --> 02:17:48.239
>> So, this is a guy. It says his name is

02:17:46.398 --> 02:17:48.558
uh Allan Daido.

02:17:48.239 --> 02:17:52.478
>> Yeah.

02:17:48.558 --> 02:17:55.039
>> And uh it's weird. Capital D, lowercase

02:17:52.478 --> 02:17:56.079
I, capital D, lowercase I

02:17:55.040 --> 02:17:57.599
>> did.

02:17:56.079 --> 02:18:00.000
>> Dido.

02:17:57.599 --> 02:18:01.519
Um after sitting in a private meeting

02:18:00.000 --> 02:18:03.120
with pastors and those connected to

02:18:01.519 --> 02:18:06.478
these investigations, the message was

02:18:03.120 --> 02:18:08.800
clear. UFO and UAP disclosure is coming.

02:18:06.478 --> 02:18:10.799
Pastors must prepare their people now.

02:18:08.799 --> 02:18:12.799
Silence is not an option. Well, what

02:18:10.799 --> 02:18:15.759
does that mean? Like what are they

02:18:12.799 --> 02:18:16.478
preparing the people for? Like what why

02:18:15.760 --> 02:18:18.478
would they bring

02:18:16.478 --> 02:18:19.760
>> a group of pastors I've never heard of?

02:18:18.478 --> 02:18:21.840
You know how

02:18:19.760 --> 02:18:23.359
>> I do I think it is. I think if he'd have

02:18:21.840 --> 02:18:24.079
brought anybody in, he brought Franklin

02:18:23.359 --> 02:18:25.840
Graham in.

02:18:24.079 --> 02:18:26.959
>> Is this gentleman a pastor himself?

02:18:25.840 --> 02:18:28.639
Click on his uh

02:18:26.959 --> 02:18:30.239
>> Yeah, he run Well, I mean, he also has a

02:18:28.638 --> 02:18:31.358
show which is uh

02:18:30.239 --> 02:18:33.119
>> Of course he does.

02:18:31.359 --> 02:18:35.040
>> Of course he does. was the

02:18:33.120 --> 02:18:36.880
>> Oh, so his show is about disclosure,

02:18:35.040 --> 02:18:38.399
>> the Revival Nation Church or something.

02:18:36.879 --> 02:18:39.839
No, no, I don't know that. This is just

02:18:38.398 --> 02:18:41.920
what these clips were coming around.

02:18:39.840 --> 02:18:45.200
>> Can you click on his bio, please? Like

02:18:41.920 --> 02:18:47.599
what it clicks what it says. Equipping

02:18:45.200 --> 02:18:51.280
end time believers for the next great

02:18:47.599 --> 02:18:52.558
awakening. Oh boy. [laughter] I also I

02:18:51.280 --> 02:18:54.800
would warn people that think we're in

02:18:52.558 --> 02:18:56.718
the end times. The Bible is pretty clear

02:18:54.799 --> 02:18:58.959
about that. It says that they don't even

02:18:56.718 --> 02:19:00.000
the angels in heaven don't even know

02:18:58.959 --> 02:19:01.199
>> when the end times are,

02:19:00.000 --> 02:19:02.879
>> when the end's coming. So,

02:19:01.200 --> 02:19:04.399
>> yeah. Well, that's I'm always very

02:19:02.879 --> 02:19:05.759
suspicious of people that say the end

02:19:04.398 --> 02:19:07.679
times are coming. I remember when we

02:19:05.760 --> 02:19:08.639
were I was living in LA, there was a a

02:19:07.679 --> 02:19:10.558
billboard. Do you remember those

02:19:08.638 --> 02:19:12.478
billboards, Jamie? Where there was the

02:19:10.558 --> 02:19:14.318
guy was like saying a very specific date

02:19:12.478 --> 02:19:15.760
where the the end was coming. The

02:19:14.318 --> 02:19:17.119
rapture was going to and then it didn't

02:19:15.760 --> 02:19:18.559
happen. He's like, I got some bad

02:19:17.120 --> 02:19:21.200
information. It's coming soon.

02:19:18.558 --> 02:19:22.959
>> Yeah, I did my math wrong. I remember I

02:19:21.200 --> 02:19:25.120
I see those all the time. I just shake

02:19:22.959 --> 02:19:28.799
my head. It ain't happening.

02:19:25.120 --> 02:19:31.200
>> Yeah, that's the guy. May 21st, 2011,

02:19:28.799 --> 02:19:32.718
cry mightily unto God. Judgement day. Oh

02:19:31.200 --> 02:19:35.359
boy. And it's look at look at the gold

02:19:32.718 --> 02:19:37.279
stamp. The Bible guarantees it.

02:19:35.359 --> 02:19:38.880
>> By the way, I read the Bible. I never

02:19:37.280 --> 02:19:40.000
read anything where there's a guarantee

02:19:38.879 --> 02:19:40.638
of this day.

02:19:40.000 --> 02:19:42.718
>> Yeah.

02:19:40.638 --> 02:19:44.638
>> May [snorts] 21st,

02:19:42.718 --> 02:19:47.438
2011.

02:19:44.638 --> 02:19:48.959
>> Yeah. Um, so when they tell you things,

02:19:47.439 --> 02:19:51.280
is there anything that they tell you

02:19:48.959 --> 02:19:53.199
that you could tell us?

02:19:51.280 --> 02:19:54.560
Like how much of what they told you is

02:19:53.200 --> 02:19:55.920
like completely top secret that you're

02:19:54.559 --> 02:19:56.318
not allowed to say until they disclose

02:19:55.920 --> 02:19:57.120
it?

02:19:56.318 --> 02:19:58.239
>> A lot of it.

02:19:57.120 --> 02:19:59.760
>> A lot of it. Yeah.

02:19:58.239 --> 02:20:01.199
>> Is there anything that really disturbs

02:19:59.760 --> 02:20:03.359
you?

02:20:01.200 --> 02:20:06.560
Yeah, we had one meeting and it got into

02:20:03.359 --> 02:20:11.680
some u stuff that they were talking

02:20:06.559 --> 02:20:13.920
about and the treatment of people and um

02:20:11.680 --> 02:20:15.439
the capabilities and this was

02:20:13.920 --> 02:20:17.760
>> the treatment of people by these

02:20:15.439 --> 02:20:19.280
supposed extraterrest

02:20:17.760 --> 02:20:21.359
but but that were we're were trying to

02:20:19.280 --> 02:20:23.280
come forward with this stuff but also

02:20:21.359 --> 02:20:28.159
yeah they told me some pretty creepy

02:20:23.280 --> 02:20:29.439
stuff. So, I would um again,

02:20:28.159 --> 02:20:31.520
you know, I bring this out and then

02:20:29.439 --> 02:20:34.559
they're busting my ass for it. But the

02:20:31.520 --> 02:20:36.159
>> What do you think is going on? Like, so

02:20:34.559 --> 02:20:38.959
>> I think it's a cover up. I think there's

02:20:36.159 --> 02:20:40.799
something else out there. I do not think

02:20:38.959 --> 02:20:42.639
we're the best that God can do. And I

02:20:40.799 --> 02:20:46.159
really just don't know, Joe. There's so

02:20:42.639 --> 02:20:49.039
many options. It could be. um one of

02:20:46.159 --> 02:20:53.039
these groups that met with me, they they

02:20:49.040 --> 02:20:54.960
described several different um types of

02:20:53.040 --> 02:20:55.760
beings and they go through all of them.

02:20:54.959 --> 02:20:57.358
How you know

02:20:55.760 --> 02:20:59.359
>> how many different types of beings?

02:20:57.359 --> 02:21:01.120
>> I don't know, three, four, five. I don't

02:20:59.359 --> 02:21:02.720
know. I It just changes. I don't I don't

02:21:01.120 --> 02:21:04.479
get caught up in that, you know. And I

02:21:02.719 --> 02:21:08.559
tell our guys, I say, "Look, here's the

02:21:04.478 --> 02:21:10.318
argument. Just say I just want to know

02:21:08.559 --> 02:21:12.239
what we're spending tens of millions of

02:21:10.318 --> 02:21:14.318
dollars on. That's all. I don't care if

02:21:12.239 --> 02:21:16.000
I I don't it's not about little green

02:21:14.318 --> 02:21:17.680
man. It's not about flying saucers. It's

02:21:16.000 --> 02:21:20.000
what are we spending this money on if

02:21:17.680 --> 02:21:22.159
they say they don't exist? That should

02:21:20.000 --> 02:21:23.600
be the answer the question and then and

02:21:22.159 --> 02:21:27.280
the answer will come from that.

02:21:23.600 --> 02:21:28.960
>> Okay. So, if they do exist,

02:21:27.280 --> 02:21:29.600
when you say you think it's a cover up,

02:21:28.959 --> 02:21:31.839
what do you think?

02:21:29.600 --> 02:21:33.760
>> I think I think I think Well, I think

02:21:31.840 --> 02:21:36.079
they really do exist. And I don't think

02:21:33.760 --> 02:21:38.478
that there's such a such a finite group

02:21:36.079 --> 02:21:40.000
of people that actually know it. And um

02:21:38.478 --> 02:21:41.679
and you got a lot of charlatans out

02:21:40.000 --> 02:21:43.520
there that say they know it and they're

02:21:41.680 --> 02:21:44.159
out there, they're selling memberships,

02:21:43.520 --> 02:21:48.079
>> of course,

02:21:44.159 --> 02:21:48.799
>> but um I I think there's there's

02:21:48.079 --> 02:21:50.719
something to it.

02:21:48.799 --> 02:21:52.559
>> I'm always very suspicious of anybody

02:21:50.719 --> 02:21:54.559
who speaks definitively about something

02:21:52.559 --> 02:21:56.079
like that where you can't possibly know

02:21:54.559 --> 02:21:56.639
and then they don't offer up any proof

02:21:56.079 --> 02:21:58.000
of this.

02:21:56.639 --> 02:21:59.519
>> They say, "Well, I've seen the

02:21:58.000 --> 02:22:00.318
pictures." Well, bring me the dad gum

02:21:59.520 --> 02:22:02.079
pictures. Yeah,

02:22:00.318 --> 02:22:03.359
>> but I have seen some pictures and I have

02:22:02.079 --> 02:22:04.639
seen video and I have

02:22:03.359 --> 02:22:07.520
>> What's the most convincing thing that

02:22:04.639 --> 02:22:08.799
you've seen?

02:22:07.520 --> 02:22:10.560
I don't know. Those guys came out the

02:22:08.799 --> 02:22:13.840
house. That was pretty convincing. Yeah,

02:22:10.559 --> 02:22:14.879
that was before the um before the

02:22:13.840 --> 02:22:17.920
hearings that we had.

02:22:14.879 --> 02:22:20.478
>> How clear was the video?

02:22:17.920 --> 02:22:22.879
>> Clear as a screen. I mean, it was pretty

02:22:20.478 --> 02:22:26.537
clear. Um you know, and that was preAI.

02:22:22.879 --> 02:22:27.759
AI was such a new thing. And then it

02:22:26.538 --> 02:22:32.640
[clears throat] fit in with what the tic

02:22:27.760 --> 02:22:34.880
tac videos were. And the um the heat

02:22:32.639 --> 02:22:36.799
signature is what always what I always

02:22:34.879 --> 02:22:38.639
thought was unusual cuz it had to have a

02:22:36.799 --> 02:22:40.559
heat signature but it didn't.

02:22:38.639 --> 02:22:41.119
>> It's a zero point energy whatever that

02:22:40.559 --> 02:22:41.600
is.

02:22:41.120 --> 02:22:43.600
>> Right.

02:22:41.600 --> 02:22:46.800
>> And then

02:22:43.600 --> 02:22:48.720
the just the quantum physics angle of it

02:22:46.799 --> 02:22:51.358
is mindblowing to me.

02:22:48.719 --> 02:22:53.599
>> And you have no knowledge of what's

02:22:51.359 --> 02:22:54.720
supposed to be released because it where

02:22:53.600 --> 02:22:56.479
today's Wednesday.

02:22:54.719 --> 02:22:58.079
>> I'm going to know tomorrow at 3.

02:22:56.478 --> 02:22:59.920
>> Tomorrow at 3 p.m. Is that when the

02:22:58.079 --> 02:23:01.760
world knows? No, I think they're going

02:22:59.920 --> 02:23:03.359
to ask me. Just give me a little bit of

02:23:01.760 --> 02:23:04.960
it. But I got a feeling they're not

02:23:03.359 --> 02:23:07.520
going to tell me much. I got a feeling

02:23:04.959 --> 02:23:09.519
they're not going to tell America much.

02:23:07.520 --> 02:23:10.640
>> When is it supposed to be disclosed?

02:23:09.520 --> 02:23:12.079
This week,

02:23:10.639 --> 02:23:13.439
>> whatever they're going to disclose.

02:23:12.079 --> 02:23:15.359
>> I don't know. I don't know. But if

02:23:13.439 --> 02:23:17.200
they're going to disclose it to us, then

02:23:15.359 --> 02:23:18.720
it'll be out right as soon as they hang

02:23:17.200 --> 02:23:21.120
up the phone with some guys.

02:23:18.719 --> 02:23:22.959
>> Do you feel an obligation if they don't

02:23:21.120 --> 02:23:24.800
release it to try to tell people what

02:23:22.959 --> 02:23:28.478
you know?

02:23:24.799 --> 02:23:30.318
>> I do. I do. I do. I think it's um cuz I

02:23:28.478 --> 02:23:35.199
don't like it if they're lying to us.

02:23:30.318 --> 02:23:36.559
And I I again I don't think Trump knows.

02:23:35.200 --> 02:23:38.640
I mean these people have kept this stuff

02:23:36.559 --> 02:23:40.719
secret. I here's another thing. I was in

02:23:38.639 --> 02:23:42.079
one meeting and a guy said I said what

02:23:40.719 --> 02:23:44.478
about the president on this? And he said

02:23:42.079 --> 02:23:47.280
the president's on a need to know basis.

02:23:44.478 --> 02:23:52.239
Now that's a federal employee saying

02:23:47.280 --> 02:23:54.239
that he or she has

02:23:52.239 --> 02:23:58.079
information that the president is not

02:23:54.239 --> 02:23:59.600
allowed to see. And I I I just was a

02:23:58.079 --> 02:24:01.039
gasp, man. I said, you know, you that's

02:23:59.600 --> 02:24:04.079
the kind of crap you see on some the

02:24:01.040 --> 02:24:06.000
sci-fi network or something. But that

02:24:04.079 --> 02:24:07.680
>> that'd be the title of my book. I mean,

02:24:06.000 --> 02:24:09.600
that that that that ought to tell you

02:24:07.680 --> 02:24:13.040
right there that that this thing is a is

02:24:09.600 --> 02:24:15.280
a cover up. And I don't and I and it's

02:24:13.040 --> 02:24:17.040
kind of like MK Ultra. I don't think

02:24:15.280 --> 02:24:19.439
we're going to get the they're not going

02:24:17.040 --> 02:24:20.800
to tell us everything.

02:24:19.439 --> 02:24:23.840
I really don't. I don't think they're

02:24:20.799 --> 02:24:25.599
going to give us

02:24:23.840 --> 02:24:27.040
half of what we should get.

02:24:25.600 --> 02:24:28.239
>> But you think we're gonna get something?

02:24:27.040 --> 02:24:30.000
>> I think we're gonna get something.

02:24:28.239 --> 02:24:31.199
>> Do you know how put off? Do you know how

02:24:30.000 --> 02:24:31.680
put off?

02:24:31.200 --> 02:24:33.439
>> Do what?

02:24:31.680 --> 02:24:33.840
>> Do you know how put off? You know who he

02:24:33.439 --> 02:24:34.960
is?

02:24:33.840 --> 02:24:36.559
>> I thought you saying I thought you know

02:24:34.959 --> 02:24:38.000
how put off you are right now. I was

02:24:36.559 --> 02:24:39.840
like [laughter] how put off are you?

02:24:38.000 --> 02:24:41.200
>> How put off was in the documentary as

02:24:39.840 --> 02:24:42.960
well. He was in the age of disclosure

02:24:41.200 --> 02:24:44.079
and he was a guest on the podcast and

02:24:42.959 --> 02:24:46.239
one of the things that he told me is

02:24:44.079 --> 02:24:48.398
that during the Bush administration they

02:24:46.239 --> 02:24:51.680
brought in him and a bunch of other

02:24:48.398 --> 02:24:54.478
scientists and thought leaders and what

02:24:51.680 --> 02:24:57.439
was explained to him was that they are

02:24:54.478 --> 02:25:00.799
considering disclosure and that there

02:24:57.439 --> 02:25:02.639
have been visits of these super

02:25:00.799 --> 02:25:06.239
intelligent beings from somewhere else

02:25:02.639 --> 02:25:08.959
that we have retrieved crashed vehicles

02:25:06.239 --> 02:25:10.879
and that we have biological remains.

02:25:08.959 --> 02:25:14.398
That's correct. We are talking about

02:25:10.879 --> 02:25:16.639
disclosing. We would like you to make a

02:25:14.398 --> 02:25:18.799
list of all the ways that it'll

02:25:16.639 --> 02:25:20.159
negatively affect society and all the

02:25:18.799 --> 02:25:23.039
ways that it'll positively affect

02:25:20.159 --> 02:25:25.520
society and attach a numerical value to

02:25:23.040 --> 02:25:28.560
these things. And they all did it. And

02:25:25.520 --> 02:25:31.040
every one of them said the negatives far

02:25:28.559 --> 02:25:32.959
outweigh the positives in terms of the

02:25:31.040 --> 02:25:34.880
impact on government, the impact on the

02:25:32.959 --> 02:25:36.478
economy, religion, all the all these

02:25:34.879 --> 02:25:38.879
different factors and how the how it

02:25:36.478 --> 02:25:40.478
would disrupt society. And in the end,

02:25:38.879 --> 02:25:42.639
they decided not to disclose.

02:25:40.478 --> 02:25:43.519
>> Yeah, I've heard that many times. I I

02:25:42.639 --> 02:25:44.239
just don't buy it.

02:25:43.520 --> 02:25:46.159
>> You don't buy it?

02:25:44.239 --> 02:25:48.000
>> I don't buy it. I mean, I I don't doubt

02:25:46.159 --> 02:25:49.680
what he's saying. I know all those guys

02:25:48.000 --> 02:25:50.959
now that you mentioned I was in movie,

02:25:49.680 --> 02:25:53.520
of course, and I've met them all

02:25:50.959 --> 02:25:56.159
afterwards, but I don't I just don't buy

02:25:53.520 --> 02:25:57.439
that. I think we should know. Let us

02:25:56.159 --> 02:26:00.398
know. Let us decide.

02:25:57.439 --> 02:26:02.800
>> No, I believe that, too. But I I wonder

02:26:00.398 --> 02:26:05.920
what that meeting was like and whether

02:26:02.799 --> 02:26:07.119
or not they were being truthful to these

02:26:05.920 --> 02:26:07.760
people or whether it was a thought

02:26:07.120 --> 02:26:09.600
experiment.

02:26:07.760 --> 02:26:10.478
>> Allegedly, when they told Jimmy Carter,

02:26:09.600 --> 02:26:11.520
he cried.

02:26:10.478 --> 02:26:13.840
>> That's what I heard, too.

02:26:11.520 --> 02:26:15.359
>> I was It was

02:26:13.840 --> 02:26:16.000
>> I won't go into all of it, but I was in

02:26:15.359 --> 02:26:17.680
a meeting.

02:26:16.000 --> 02:26:19.040
>> What would make him cry?

02:26:17.680 --> 02:26:20.559
>> I don't know. I know he's a very

02:26:19.040 --> 02:26:22.399
sensitive guy, but

02:26:20.559 --> 02:26:23.359
>> I understand, but I mean like I cried

02:26:22.398 --> 02:26:25.439
when I saw Old Yeller.

02:26:23.359 --> 02:26:28.159
>> Yeah, I did too. [laughter] Still cry.

02:26:25.439 --> 02:26:30.720
But they um uh he he had seen a UFO, you

02:26:28.159 --> 02:26:32.478
know, he was on a Navy sub, nuclear sub,

02:26:30.719 --> 02:26:34.000
and um I don't know if he saw that when

02:26:32.478 --> 02:26:36.318
he was on the sub or not. I can't

02:26:34.000 --> 02:26:37.600
remember, but you know, here he said,

02:26:36.318 --> 02:26:38.478
"That guy, he's president of the United

02:26:37.600 --> 02:26:40.159
States." And he

02:26:38.478 --> 02:26:43.199
>> they told him something and supposedly

02:26:40.159 --> 02:26:45.600
he cried. And I was in the meeting and I

02:26:43.200 --> 02:26:47.359
uh that was brought up and the guy that

02:26:45.600 --> 02:26:50.318
they were trying to trip up gave the

02:26:47.359 --> 02:26:55.520
date of that meeting and he said you can

02:26:50.318 --> 02:26:57.920
go to the Carter Library and pull up

02:26:55.520 --> 02:27:01.200
that date and you'll know there's one

02:26:57.920 --> 02:27:03.359
person they omitted their name which who

02:27:01.200 --> 02:27:04.880
knows who that was but they list the the

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meeting and where he was when he got

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that that briefing.

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>> Wow.

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So, I don't know. I don't know.

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>> I don't know either.

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>> I don't know if that's true or not. You

02:27:13.840 --> 02:27:18.799
know, they also say Nixon pulled up one

02:27:17.040 --> 02:27:19.920
night to Jackie Gleason's and took

02:27:18.799 --> 02:27:20.639
>> I know that story.

02:27:19.920 --> 02:27:22.000
>> Yeah.

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>> Well, you know, Jackie Gleason built

02:27:22.000 --> 02:27:25.359
that crazy house in upstate New York. Do

02:27:24.559 --> 02:27:25.840
you know about that?

02:27:25.359 --> 02:27:27.680
>> Do not?

02:27:25.840 --> 02:27:30.478
>> Oh, you don't? It was for sale a while

02:27:27.680 --> 02:27:32.720
back. Um Jackie Gleason essentially

02:27:30.478 --> 02:27:34.318
built a UFO house. He built a house that

02:27:32.719 --> 02:27:36.478
looked like a flying saucer. No kidding.

02:27:34.318 --> 02:27:38.239
Yeah. It was for sale fairly recently

02:27:36.478 --> 02:27:38.639
within the last few years. That's the

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house.

02:27:38.639 --> 02:27:41.279
>> Oh crap.

02:27:39.680 --> 02:27:44.880
>> That's a house Jackie Gleason built

02:27:41.280 --> 02:27:46.479
after supposedly Richard Nixon took him.

02:27:44.879 --> 02:27:48.639
So supposedly the story was they were

02:27:46.478 --> 02:27:50.239
golfing, out drinking, and Richard

02:27:48.639 --> 02:27:52.478
Nixon's like, "Hey, you want to see some

02:27:50.239 --> 02:27:57.119
shit?" And then [laughter] he took him

02:27:52.478 --> 02:27:59.358
to see this UFO somewhere on some base.

02:27:57.120 --> 02:28:01.120
You know, the story is very vague. It's

02:27:59.359 --> 02:28:04.079
hard to tell what what actually

02:28:01.120 --> 02:28:06.160
happened, but apparently people that

02:28:04.079 --> 02:28:08.559
knew Jackie Gleason said it profoundly

02:28:06.159 --> 02:28:10.239
affected him. And Jackie Gleason became

02:28:08.559 --> 02:28:12.079
obsessed with UFOs afterwards. And then

02:28:10.239 --> 02:28:15.520
he had this house built

02:28:12.079 --> 02:28:17.280
>> the shape of a UFO, which is I mean, not

02:28:15.520 --> 02:28:18.159
evidence, but weird.

02:28:17.280 --> 02:28:18.720
>> That's very weird.

02:28:18.159 --> 02:28:21.680
>> Weird.

02:28:18.719 --> 02:28:23.358
>> Yeah. And Nixon um Nixon was a very

02:28:21.680 --> 02:28:24.960
serious guy. That would have been a that

02:28:23.359 --> 02:28:26.800
would have been an interesting uh

02:28:24.959 --> 02:28:27.599
>> Yeah. scenario

02:28:26.799 --> 02:28:29.119
>> indeed.

02:28:27.600 --> 02:28:31.359
>> But I

02:28:29.120 --> 02:28:32.880
I just wish they'd

02:28:31.359 --> 02:28:36.640
show us everything.

02:28:32.879 --> 02:28:38.639
>> Yeah, me too. Well, we'll see. We'll see

02:28:36.639 --> 02:28:39.920
what what comes out this week. But, uh,

02:28:38.639 --> 02:28:41.119
thank you very much for being here. I

02:28:39.920 --> 02:28:41.760
really appreciate it. It was great to

02:28:41.120 --> 02:28:43.040
talk to you.

02:28:41.760 --> 02:28:43.760
>> I wish I could get you to move to East

02:28:43.040 --> 02:28:44.800
Tennessee.

02:28:43.760 --> 02:28:46.960
>> Why?

02:28:44.799 --> 02:28:48.719
>> Well, we saved Texas ass, man. You know,

02:28:46.959 --> 02:28:49.358
Davy Crockett. Yeah, Davy Crockett back

02:28:48.719 --> 02:28:50.639
in the day.

02:28:49.359 --> 02:28:52.399
>> Yeah. He said, um, he [snorts] was in

02:28:50.639 --> 02:28:54.478
Congress and got beat. He was a state

02:28:52.398 --> 02:28:57.039
legislator and he got he got beat in the

02:28:54.478 --> 02:28:59.199
Congress. He said, "As for," let's see,

02:28:57.040 --> 02:29:00.800
see, his quote was, "As for me, he says,

02:28:59.200 --> 02:29:03.359
"For you all, you can all go to hell. As

02:29:00.799 --> 02:29:05.438
for me, I'm going to Texas." He got He

02:29:03.359 --> 02:29:06.880
goes to Alamo gets killed. But

02:29:05.438 --> 02:29:08.559
[laughter] he parlayed that into a

02:29:06.879 --> 02:29:09.839
Disney special, so he kind of evened

02:29:08.559 --> 02:29:10.478
out. Yeah.

02:29:09.840 --> 02:29:11.040
>> Sort of.

02:29:10.478 --> 02:29:12.879
>> Sort of.

02:29:11.040 --> 02:29:14.720
>> Sort of. I'm very partial to Texas.

02:29:12.879 --> 02:29:15.759
>> Well, all right. We're low tax state. I

02:29:14.719 --> 02:29:17.599
know. Texas low.

02:29:15.760 --> 02:29:19.680
>> I just love it here. I love a lot of

02:29:17.600 --> 02:29:20.960
things about Tech. I love the people.

02:29:19.680 --> 02:29:23.040
It's a fun place to be.

02:29:20.959 --> 02:29:24.398
>> Yeah. My buddy Chip Roy, he's leaving.

02:29:23.040 --> 02:29:27.040
He's from down here. A bunch of these

02:29:24.398 --> 02:29:27.599
guys in Congress are down here that are

02:29:27.040 --> 02:29:28.880
leaving

02:29:27.600 --> 02:29:32.079
>> and they're going to Tennessee.

02:29:28.879 --> 02:29:33.679
>> No, they're coming down here. He's a

02:29:32.079 --> 02:29:35.039
down here. But no, they're just they're

02:29:33.680 --> 02:29:35.760
all coming home. They're tired of

02:29:35.040 --> 02:29:36.080
Washington.

02:29:35.760 --> 02:29:37.760
>> Yeah.

02:29:36.079 --> 02:29:38.799
>> Well, Latrell told me I said, "Why are

02:29:37.760 --> 02:29:39.280
you leaving Congress, dude?" And he

02:29:38.799 --> 02:29:40.879
says,

02:29:39.280 --> 02:29:42.000
>> "Want to spend time with my family, my

02:29:40.879 --> 02:29:44.079
kids. They're growing up." And I was

02:29:42.000 --> 02:29:46.318
like, "Can't argue with that, brother."

02:29:44.079 --> 02:29:49.200
>> Yeah. And the pressure of Congress, the

02:29:46.318 --> 02:29:50.719
pressure of Washington, DC is just so

02:29:49.200 --> 02:29:52.240
odd. I've only been there a couple

02:29:50.719 --> 02:29:54.000
times, but every time I'm there when I

02:29:52.239 --> 02:29:56.000
leave, I'm like, "Yuck."

02:29:54.000 --> 02:29:57.520
>> It's like when I used to, you know, I

02:29:56.000 --> 02:30:00.159
used to minister [snorts] to a guy in

02:29:57.520 --> 02:30:02.239
prison and when you'd leave Brushy

02:30:00.159 --> 02:30:04.478
Mountain State Prison, you I I called it

02:30:02.239 --> 02:30:06.159
that institutional smell. Whatever they

02:30:04.478 --> 02:30:08.719
used to clean that place, you just smell

02:30:06.159 --> 02:30:10.398
like it for you could smell it in your

02:30:08.719 --> 02:30:12.318
nose for days later. And that's

02:30:10.398 --> 02:30:13.439
Washington DC. It's a It's more of a

02:30:12.318 --> 02:30:15.760
filthy smell.

02:30:13.439 --> 02:30:18.880
>> Yeah, it's a weird place. I guess it's

02:30:15.760 --> 02:30:20.960
necessary supposedly, but it's it's odd

02:30:18.879 --> 02:30:21.358
to visit. But I appreciate people like

02:30:20.959 --> 02:30:22.559
you.

02:30:21.359 --> 02:30:23.760
>> Thank you, brother. I appreciate you.

02:30:22.559 --> 02:30:25.199
And I appreciate you doing the right

02:30:23.760 --> 02:30:27.200
thing, especially for our veterans and

02:30:25.200 --> 02:30:28.800
on disclosure and all the other hot

02:30:27.200 --> 02:30:30.399
button issues.

02:30:28.799 --> 02:30:31.840
>> And you got Hecklefish right there.

02:30:30.398 --> 02:30:33.760
>> I do. Hecklefish.

02:30:31.840 --> 02:30:36.639
>> He said my name on his show one time.

02:30:33.760 --> 02:30:38.239
Yeah, I love that show. He said my name

02:30:36.639 --> 02:30:40.239
one time. He said it wrong, but he's a

02:30:38.239 --> 02:30:42.239
Yankee, so I guess it's okay. It's like

02:30:40.239 --> 02:30:43.680
Bersett or something. I don't know.

02:30:42.239 --> 02:30:48.119
>> Thank you very much. It was awesome. All

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right. [music] Thank you. Bye everybody.

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