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>> The Joe Rogan Experience.

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>> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY

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NIGHT. All day.

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>> Good to see you, sir.

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>> Thank you for having me, brothers. Big

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honor.

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>> Thank you. An honor for me, too. Very

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excited about this. Very excited to talk

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to you. There's so many different things

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to discuss. So, do you know what is

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going to be released? So supposedly this

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is the week of some kind of disclosure.

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Can you give us any insight as to what's

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going on?

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>> Oddly enough, I got a call that um that

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tomorrow at 3:00 I'm going to be briefed

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over the phone by um I think one of

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Seth's top dogs is going to go over some

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stuff with me that they've got and I

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have no earthly idea. I I don't want

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everybody to get their hopes up. I don't

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have a lot of faith in in our

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government. President Trump's always

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been great to me. He's never lied to me.

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But I I don't know that he knows the

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right questions to ask and the right

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people to talk to because I mean, this

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thing's been covered up at least since

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1947.

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And I just don't think they're going to

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they don't give up that easy. The war

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pimps at the Pentagon and everybody

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else, they just don't give up that easy.

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>> How how did you come to understand all

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this stuff? like what was your

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understanding of it before you got into

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government?

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>> I had pretty cool parents. Um, right now

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they would uh daddy was an old World War

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II marine and mama flew an airplane

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during the Second World War. I mean,

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they were they were badasses. Then they

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were good Christian people. But my daddy

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was a stone cold killer. I mean, he was

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the real deal. He was on Peloo and

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Okinawa in the Marine Corps. And of

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course, mama's oldest brother, Roy, got

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killed fighting the Nazis. And mama did

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her part. Just a little country girl.

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didn't have electricity till she's a

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senior in high school. So, I've kind of

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lived the American dream. But they would

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let me, you know, they let me get

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bloodied up and then they would patch me

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up and let me go. You know, I I could

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ride my bike to the library or the

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library if you're from East Tennessee.

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And uh and it was, you know, about a

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mile from the house and they go in there

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and they have these books set up and

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they had all this stuff on, you know,

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all this wild stuff and there's a book

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on UFOs and I just picked it up and

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started reading it. I probably wasn't, I

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don't know, seven or eight years old and

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I just always followed it, you know, the

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the magazine articles and I'd go out at

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night and hope to see a UFO. Never did,

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never have um until some of the

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briefings I've been in. But um and then

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>> and can I mention another news sources?

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Okay. I was walking down the street and

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TMZ was there was a guy there um this

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black fella, his name's Colin. He's a

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buddy of mine. He doesn't work for them

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anymore, but he was filming and he said,

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"Hey, Congressman," he said, "You want

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me to comment on the UFO thing?" He

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couldn't get anybody to comment. I said,

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"Why sure?" I said, "They're going to

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issue tell you they're going to issue

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you a report and it's going to be loaded

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and everybody's freaking out. It's going

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to be the greatest thing. It's going to

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be total disclosure and then they're

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going to put something out. It looked

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like somebody shot it with a dad gum 12

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gauge. It's just going to have holes in

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it. It's all redacted. And I said, "And

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they're not going to put it out this

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week. It'll be weeks later." And that's

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exactly what they did. They had a report

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I felt like had some information in that

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was new to the public. And um and they

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um did what they always do. They hid it,

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covered it up. And then uh

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everybody saw that interview and I said

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on it I said um

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>> that's the one we were talking about

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bases in the ocean.

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>> No, no, no, no, no. That a different one

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as is totally different. I this is just

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out on the street corner and then I

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started getting calls from people

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literally all over the world. I mean

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I've I've talked to legislators in

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Russia over this issue and then people

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um people start just stop me on street

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corners and say, "Hey man, I really

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appreciate you going for disclosure. I

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have doctors tell me this. have lawyers,

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engineers. I have military people that

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have seen things that they can't

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describe. I've had members of Congress.

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Congress. They'll make fun of me and say

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smart elic stuff. But put it out there

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to your people. It's over 55% of the

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American population feels like we're not

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alone. I mean, seriously, you go out

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there and look at those every night. My

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dogs, they got to take a leak. They

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never want to take a leak at like 9:00.

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It's always 3:00 in the morning. I look

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at those dadum stars, man. And the light

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from those stars left there before the

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time of Christ. And the light from some

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of those stars, the stars have already

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combusted. I mean, they're not even

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there anymore. You know, light years to

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us is is something that's hard to

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understand. And we are more we are just,

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you know, one grain of sand on a billion

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beaches. And I still don't think we're

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the best that God can do. I, you know, I

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just can't imagine we're his shining uh

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we're we're the one they put on the

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mantel. Oh, look. you made humans. Well,

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you know, we've kind of screwed things

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up. So, I I you know, and I and I read

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my Bible and a lot of the Christian

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folks knock me. They talk about it's

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demons and I say, "Well, I'm good with

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Jesus. I'm not worrying about demons.

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I'm not going to worry about that. I

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don't think they're demons. I don't Why

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would they? They don't have to fly

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around in some craft to to, you know,

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it's just to me it's it's hard to

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imagine." But the um the underwater

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thing was I was I was getting briefed by

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an it was a former admiral came into my

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office and Joe it was it was a very

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friendly conversation and I'm always a

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little couched because or a little I

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hold back a little bit because I think

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there's a scop going on with some of

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these departments. I was uh briefed by

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one of our alphabet agencies not long

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ago and the final thing was somebody

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said well why don't we got more

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information says we just don't have the

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funding for that congressman and you

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know it's a and I know they're reading

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the polling data and they're saying you

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know well let's shake loose the money

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tree for us and that's that's part of it

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too and I warn people about that but um

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>> So when you first got in how long have

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you been in government for? Well, eight

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years in in um Congress. I was in our

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state legislature in Tennessee 16 years

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and then I was county mayor for eight

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that you first started getting inside

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information about what's going on?

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>> So, that was was that eight years ago or

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like when was that?

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administration. So, it would have been

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>> And do you remember what it was? Do you

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remember how you were introduced to it?

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>> Uh yeah. Um, we we raised we just raised

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total hell about it and then why

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>> because it's a cover up. Nobody would

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give us information.

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>> What made you think it was a cover up?

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>> I guess I just don't trust government.

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I've been in government most of my life

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and I just don't trust it. I don't

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>> I understand that. But like was there

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something that led you to want to pursue

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this particular subject?

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>> No, just it kind of pursued me after I

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did that TMZ interview. people started

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calling me and then people would um I

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would get phone calls from people for

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>> but the TMZ interview was fairly

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recently, right?

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>> No, no, no, no. That was that was one

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that was that was that was what started

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it all. It was seven or eight years ago.

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I'm sorry. I don't I didn't explain it

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very well.

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>> So, so then so but you had an interest

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from the time you were a child and then

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getting into government. What was like

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the first introduction where you had a

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an idea that there's something going on?

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>> When I started asking questions and um

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and we just get to run around

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>> like what kind of questions?

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>> Like um what is what is this? Where are

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you seeing these things? And we would

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get people I would I had I had an

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interesting meeting in my office um with

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some people that were like uh nationally

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known and they came by to see me and

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they just wanted to talk to me about it

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and I was um and and they started

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telling me things and then I had a group

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come to my house. I said y'all just come

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by the office in DC and we'll talk. They

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said we don't feel comfortable doing

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that. And they came by the house and

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they said can we hook up to your um

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television? And I said, "Well, sure."

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You know, and they hooked up the

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computer to it. And they were showing me

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um they were showing me objects that

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were flying at And

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granted, I'm not a, you know, I'm not an

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astrophysicist by any stretch of

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imagination, but they were showing me

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things that were flying at at speeds

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that were just that nothing compares.

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And the and the angles that they were

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taking would literally, and I've said

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this before, and it grosses people out,

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but it would turn you or me into a

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ketchup package. I mean, we, you know,

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you go this way and then boom, you're

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going this way. And we have no no

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capability of any of it. And now I've

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been briefed so many times from on and

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different different groups. Um, you

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know, you know, we've we scrub missions

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because these things are out there. We

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um and then we tell everybody that's

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involved to keep your mouth shut. And

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then if you're a pilot and you come back

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and say, "Hey, I've seen this." You

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immediately pulled off the flight line.

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I'm not a pilot or military person, but

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flight line um is what I call it.

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given a psych evaluation and they're

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given an 8h hour, they call it a

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debriefing. It's I've been told by some

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of the officers that have been involved,

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it's really just an interrogation and

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then you got that hanging on your record

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>> so it influences them to stop.

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>> They just keep their mouth shut. I I

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literally had a guy tell me, Joe, that

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he um he said his um um recorder, it was

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an older style plane and he said, I

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think he said it was close to his right

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knee. And when he got that on his

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recorder, he started smashing it with

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his right knee to discombobulate it so

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that it wasn't even cuz he didn't want

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anything. He did not need it. He saw it.

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He didn't need it in in on his record.

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even if he saw it and it was on a dad

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gum tape, they they drag you in. And so,

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you know, myself, Luna, and um Matt

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Gates went down to Florida to be um

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briefed by Matt was told that some some

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pilots had seen some things and they had

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some photographs. And so, we go down

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there and and again, we go in. I told

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Matt, I said, "Matt, they don't give up

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this stuff easy. We're going to go down

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there and I have a bad feeling they're

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going to turn us out. turn us out. Well,

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we went down there and Joe, they briefed

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us on some very um very serious issues

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that they were dealing with with the

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Chinese and um and and communist

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infiltration and things going on um

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around around Florida in in in the

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ocean. And but they didn't never have

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the the uh they wouldn't bring the

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pilots in. Matt said, "Hey, I understand

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all this, but this is not why we came

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down here." And Matt's um you say what

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you want to about Matt Gates, but he's

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and he's a great orator and he's a great

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attorney and he just started failing on

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them. And he told him he said, "Here's

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what's going to happen. You're going to

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jerk me around." And I said, "I'm going

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to subpoena you all. We're going to call

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y'all back to Washington." And I

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remember looking over in the corner at

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the suits. And I and I said and I I

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called them spooks cuz they were

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obviously some sort of military

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intelligence or CIA. And I leaned over

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to Matt and I said, "The spooks are

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getting nervous, brother." Cuz they were

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kind of shifting around. And they shut

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us down. They said, "No, we're not going

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to do it." And Matt said, "I'm calling

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whoever big Air Force was." He Matt was

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on the um on one of the military

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committees. And he called and um hour

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later they stuck us up in this room and

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um had microphones under the desk. I

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remember Luna reached under and

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unplugged them. And uh um they had a

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nice fruit tray that you paid for it,

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taxpayers. Thank you very much.

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[laughter] So I went and it hit like a

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jackass eating saw browsers. I was just

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eating. I didn't care. And so um finally

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[clears throat] I came back in an hour

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and the guy says, "I don't know who you

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all called, but you're going to get your

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briefing. They're bringing the pilots

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in." And literally they brought these

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pilots in and they were in their um

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their flight gear and they had just come

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out of the planes and they were the ones

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and they they described things and it's

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been reported now. It's been imported in

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public but it was um these craft that

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were hovering for extended periods of

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times and could shoot straight up at

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incredible speeds that we don't have

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capabilities of doing. And those are the

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kind of thing and and too they're um

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this was military people. These were top

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people. These are like equivalent not

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you know they just some of our top

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people and I know folks are going to say

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well it's probably the Russians. Well if

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it's the Russians dad gamut they

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wouldn't be tied up down in Ukraine for

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how many years and and Putin's such an

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egoomaniac he'd fly a saucer to

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Pennsylvania Avenue get out and probably

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wrestle Trump in the front yard or

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something. You know bare chested ride a

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unicorn or something. I don't know. If

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it's China they'd own us even more than

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they already do. And then people say,

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"Well, it's ours, Burch. It's just ours

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that they don't want to release it."

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Well, think about this. President Trump

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and he should have, and I give him great

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credit for that, that pilot that got

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knocked down over in Iran, we spent

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untold millions of dollars to bring that

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cat home. And we should have because it

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sends a message to our enemies, and it

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sends a message to our fighting men and

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women that we're not going to leave you

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behind, as many presidents have done

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many times. There's no way on God's

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green earth that they would risk a half

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a billion dollar aircraft with something

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flying around it and um and and risk

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those guys' life and all that training

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to put these guys in harm's way. And

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that's and that's exactly what they're

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doing. I mean, these things were buzzing

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cockpits. It's it's not an everyday

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occurrence. It's in certain areas. And

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that's where the um the deep water thing

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comes in. The deep water bases. I was

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sort of misqued. I was just telling what

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I was told and um but it makes a lot of

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sense that that these deep water areas

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are where we see a lot of sightings and

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we see we've seen um

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craft underwater

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that do something over 200 miles an hour

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that on the sonar pickup are as big as a

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dad gum football field. The best we have

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we don't have anything big as a football

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field maybe in length but not in not

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underwater anyway. And uh I you know the

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best we can do is maybe upper 30 m an

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hour maybe something like that. I don't

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know but 200 miles an hour that's just

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out of the question. And um these things

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don't have a heat signature and

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I hope I hope though that they they

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release some of the footage that we've

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seen and some that we haven't that we've

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been rumored that's out there. What I'm

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afraid though it's going to get so

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sanitized and it's going to get cleaned

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up. I mean, even Obama, he said, "Yeah,

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there aliens out there." And then in a

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recent interview, I saw just the last

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week or so, he's backed up on that. I

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was just kidding. I was just kidding.

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You know,

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>> well, I saw Trump when he was getting

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interviewed, he said Obama should have

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said that because it's classified. He

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goes, "But I might release it. I might

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make it unclassified."

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>> And I hope he does. And I told him that.

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I talked to the president about it and I

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said, you know, Mr. President, it's like

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it's like layers of an onion. Just keep

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peeling it back. And I hope I hope he

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does because

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>> well he might be the only one that would

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ever

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>> only one with enough guts. Only one cuz

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he's not beholden to that bunch. All

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they done is try to bury him.

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>> Right.

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>> Yeah. So when these men came to you and

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they hooked up the computer to your

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television and showed you, did they tell

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you why they wanted you to see this

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stuff?

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>> They just thought I should know about it

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because I was asking the right

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questions. And then shortly after that,

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I was in in Go ahead.

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>> I'm sorry. Were you told that you were

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not supposed to tell people about this?

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Were you?

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>> No. But it's interesting. I had that

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deep throat moment, you know, not the

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porn version, the the um Richard Nixon

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moment, you know, where I was walking in

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the in the tunnel one day and a person

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came up to me and it's always a friend.

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It's always a friend that does this and

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said, it was just the strangest

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conversation and I'll never forget it

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because he said, "Burchett," he said,

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"Uh, you know, you're really pushing on

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this UFO thing." And I go, "Yeah, yeah,

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I am." He said, "Do you really think we

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need to do this?" And I just kept

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listening. I when I was a young man, id

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have run my mouth and said, "I'll shut

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up." But I listened to what he said. He

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said he said, "I mean, you know, this

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could upset the religious community and

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and all this other I mean, some of this

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stuff's just left unknown, you know."

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And I said, "No, it's not." And the

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government has no right to decide what I

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can and cannot understand or handle or

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see. And it to me and and every time,

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Joe, let me tell you what they're going

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to do. I had a two-page bill to for

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disclosure. And Chuck Schumer had one

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that was 60 pages, I believe, and he

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modeled his after the Kennedy

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assassination

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uh committee release, which we're over

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60 years into that. And we still don't

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they haven't released everything that on

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on President Kennedy getting shot. And

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that's what they wanted to model this

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dadum thing after. Mine was two pages

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long. Of course, mine didn't get

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anywhere. I was told by a member of

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leadership they come and sit with me. I

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call it cent's row. I sit on the back

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row, second from the back on the aisle.

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Everybody gets in trouble. They come sit

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with me sometimes. And um and I was told

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by a member of leadership that um that

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the intelligence community was unhappy

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with what I was doing. And then I got a

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phone call from um a former member of um

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President Trump's staff who told me that

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I needed to um I forget his exact

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terminology, but he said, "Oh," he said,

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"You need to get some bodies around

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you."

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>> So, you know, and I I don't know what

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that means. I mean, I'm the 435th most

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powerful member of Congress, Joe. So, I

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you know, they bump me off and it's

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going to be like they'll they'll

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there'll be one tear shed on the House

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floor. They'll be because I owed

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somebody $10. I didn't pay them back and

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then they'll move on to the next guy.

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So,

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>> well, I'm sure you're aware of this

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narrative about the missing scientists

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and scientists that have turned up dead

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and been killed

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>> 100%. That's real. I think um I have a

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theory on that. All right. I know it's

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it's a little dangerous to throw these

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things out, but and I and I I was on

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maybe Fox one time and I just came up

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with this. I say, say your family's

524
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mobbed up, okay? And y'all own a nice

525
00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,798
Italian restaurant and it's

526
00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,400
worldrenowned and you're you're busting

527
00:18:24,798 --> 00:18:28,160
at the seams, you know, and you're

528
00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,759
franchising and putting out cookbooks

529
00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,558
and everything. You got this one chef

530
00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:34,400
who's who's the kingpin of all of it,

531
00:18:32,558 --> 00:18:35,918
but you're afraid he's talking to your

532
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:39,038
competitors.

533
00:18:35,919 --> 00:18:41,200
Now, you don't bump him off. What you do

534
00:18:39,038 --> 00:18:43,599
is you rough up a few of the bus boys

535
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:47,440
and that sends a quick dad gum message

536
00:18:43,599 --> 00:18:49,279
that you need to shut your mouth. And I

537
00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,759
timing is everything and nothing happens

538
00:18:49,279 --> 00:18:55,519
by accident in Washington DC. To me, I

539
00:18:51,759 --> 00:18:57,200
think it's the timing is is it's uncanny

540
00:18:55,519 --> 00:18:59,038
that you got a president, you know,

541
00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,640
we've had these hearings in Washington.

542
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you have a president that says he's

543
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going to release stuff and all in that

544
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same time frame before and after that

545
00:19:04,798 --> 00:19:10,160
you're having some of these high um high

546
00:19:07,599 --> 00:19:12,399
ranking officials disappear and to me

547
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that's nobody disappears in this country

548
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unless they they want to disappear. You

549
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:20,079
know, there's cameras everywhere and it

550
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just to me it's just um it reeks of uh

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Limited time offer. Yeah, I thought one

585
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of the things that I thought of is one

586
00:20:43,759 --> 00:20:47,359
of the subjects that these people were

587
00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:48,960
all they're all working on different

588
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,798
things, but they're working on

589
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,798
alternative energy sources.

590
00:20:50,798 --> 00:20:54,319
>> Yeah, that's that's the um that's the

591
00:20:52,798 --> 00:20:56,558
the I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you

592
00:20:54,319 --> 00:20:59,200
off, but that's what ties them together,

593
00:20:56,558 --> 00:21:01,599
I think. And and two,

594
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:04,000
>> um their one of them spouse said, "Oh,

595
00:21:01,599 --> 00:21:05,759
my husband or wife or whatever did

596
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,759
anything with UFOs." Well, they don't

597
00:21:05,759 --> 00:21:10,000
talk about it. It's actually

598
00:21:07,759 --> 00:21:11,599
>> it's a pretty close-knit group. And uh I

599
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,759
always remember this. I knock on doors.

600
00:21:11,599 --> 00:21:15,199
That's how I got elected. Nobody really

601
00:21:13,759 --> 00:21:16,798
there's not a lot of people like me that

602
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,480
are come from a family of public

603
00:21:16,798 --> 00:21:20,558
educators that get elected to Congress.

604
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,720
All right? Most of my contributions are

605
00:21:20,558 --> 00:21:24,240
$25 and somebody wraps a Bible verse

606
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,839
around it and and tells me they're

607
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,120
praying for me. The big boys, they're

608
00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:28,079
always for me the day after the

609
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,759
election. All right? They always say,

610
00:21:28,079 --> 00:21:30,879
"Hey, let me write you a check." And we

611
00:21:29,759 --> 00:21:32,400
were with you all along. I always say,

612
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,640
"Yeah, I felt it right there towards the

613
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:38,159
end." you know, but but I'm knocking on

614
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:39,919
this guy's door down in Farragut and um

615
00:21:38,159 --> 00:21:42,240
and he he's putting his flag out. He's

616
00:21:39,919 --> 00:21:44,240
an older gentleman. And I said I said,

617
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,000
"Hey, brother, did you serve?" And he

618
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,038
said, "No, you know, I mean, it's East

619
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,119
Tennessee, you know." And he kind of

620
00:21:47,038 --> 00:21:51,519
held his head down, "No, I didn't. Um I

621
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,199
didn't." And I said, he said, "I worked

622
00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:55,359
at Oakidge." And I said, "Brother," I

623
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,480
said, "My daddy was on Okinawa when they

624
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,240
dropped the bomb. They were getting

625
00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:01,440
ready to invade mainland Japan." I said,

626
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:04,960
"If my mom and daddy were alive today,

627
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:06,400
they would hug you because that's they

628
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,880
put it together." And he told me, he

629
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:11,679
said, "Tim," before I left, he said, "A

630
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,720
funny thing." He said, "My wife worked

631
00:22:11,679 --> 00:22:17,120
there, too." And you know, I did, she

632
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,279
worked on a um I think he said he was a

633
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,599
fuse or something and she was the worked

634
00:22:19,279 --> 00:22:23,519
on the timer on the atomic bomb. He

635
00:22:21,599 --> 00:22:25,199
said, "And I didn't know what she did

636
00:22:23,519 --> 00:22:26,079
the entire time that we were working

637
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,679
there." That's called

638
00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:30,399
compartmentalization. And that's what

639
00:22:27,679 --> 00:22:31,679
you have here. And if I can elaborate

640
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,360
just a little bit more,

641
00:22:31,679 --> 00:22:35,038
>> the um

642
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,319
>> you you're familiar with FOYA. I mean,

643
00:22:35,038 --> 00:22:38,400
you're a member of the media freedom of

644
00:22:36,319 --> 00:22:40,879
information act. And it means I can I

645
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,240
can request from a federal agency, the

646
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,960
FBI, they probably wouldn't give it to

647
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:47,839
me, but any information, but I can't go

648
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,759
after like Ford Motor Company. Okay. So,

649
00:22:47,839 --> 00:22:51,279
what they've done is they've given this

650
00:22:49,759 --> 00:22:53,038
information, these whatever if it's

651
00:22:51,279 --> 00:22:55,119
craft, if it's material, if it's bodies,

652
00:22:53,038 --> 00:22:56,879
I don't know a lot. I I have my

653
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,959
suspicions, but they've given them to

654
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,200
there's four or five major contractors

655
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,720
that you see that are always the ones

656
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,319
that are that are putting it out there.

657
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,759
There are missile defense systems.

658
00:23:04,319 --> 00:23:07,439
They're they're coming up with this new

659
00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:11,359
metallurgy, these new propulsion

660
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:14,640
systems. And I think that whatever they

661
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:16,798
had, they gave to them early on and they

662
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,640
they're the ones, but they're so far

663
00:23:16,798 --> 00:23:20,798
disconnected from the government that I

664
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,600
can't touch it. And the people that are

665
00:23:20,798 --> 00:23:25,519
working on it, there's nobody alive

666
00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:27,279
around was around Roswell or any of that

667
00:23:25,519 --> 00:23:30,079
stuff that was in and around those years

668
00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:31,279
that's still alive or still working. So

669
00:23:30,079 --> 00:23:32,960
all those people are gone. I mean,

670
00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:34,879
that's the best that's the best secret

671
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,360
you can keep if you tell somebody and

672
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,840
they die. And that's that's exactly what

673
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:44,399
they've done. And uh you know, we've

674
00:23:39,839 --> 00:23:46,158
been given um places, addresses, and

675
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,400
things, and everybody says, "Oh man, go

676
00:23:46,159 --> 00:23:50,320
to you need to get out to Area 51,

677
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,720
Burchett, and see what's out there."

678
00:23:50,319 --> 00:23:54,079
There ain't nothing at freaking Area 51.

679
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,679
Soon as we announce where we're going,

680
00:23:54,079 --> 00:23:58,399
the U-Haul vans would have already been

681
00:23:55,679 --> 00:23:59,840
there and left, you know, and um and so

682
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,080
what it's going to take is it's going to

683
00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:03,119
take a scientist or somebody that's

684
00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:06,240
going to have to walk out of one of

685
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:08,000
those dadgum labs before they're um

686
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,599
allowed to commit suicide. by shooting

687
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:13,679
themselves in the back of the head 10

688
00:24:09,599 --> 00:24:14,798
times um with a shotgun or something. Um

689
00:24:13,679 --> 00:24:16,480
and so

690
00:24:14,798 --> 00:24:19,440
>> do you know the Bob Lazar story?

691
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,839
>> I do. I do. I've never met Bob. I know

692
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,600
um a buddy of mine I guess um friend of

693
00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:24,399
mine I think sort of broke that story.

694
00:24:23,599 --> 00:24:25,119
Um

695
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,080
>> George Knap.

696
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:30,000
>> Yeah. Nap. Nap. I'm sorry. I um haven't

697
00:24:28,079 --> 00:24:31,918
slept much in the last 48 hours, but

698
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,679
yeah, George. I met him through all this

699
00:24:31,919 --> 00:24:35,440
and it was a big honor because I grew up

700
00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:36,000
watching George Knap. He's a cool guy.

701
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,919
>> He's awesome.

702
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,720
>> I love him. He comes to my office and we

703
00:24:37,919 --> 00:24:43,038
hang out and I mean great people get,

704
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,960
you know, they get kind of stareyed when

705
00:24:43,038 --> 00:24:46,558
they see somebody like yourself or Kid

706
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,159
Rock or somebody, but for me it was

707
00:24:46,558 --> 00:24:49,519
George Knap because I mean, you know,

708
00:24:48,159 --> 00:24:50,799
cuz I asked him I'd ask him stuff. He

709
00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:53,119
goes, "Yeah, that was a report I did

710
00:24:50,798 --> 00:24:55,278
when and and because I've, you know,

711
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,038
>> yeah, he's very careful about what he

712
00:24:55,278 --> 00:24:58,000
says, too. He's not a guy who says

713
00:24:57,038 --> 00:25:00,000
anything that he can't

714
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,919
>> and he documents it." You ever seen his

715
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,798
files? I mean, it's just um it's a

716
00:25:01,919 --> 00:25:07,278
myriad of files. He's very even keeled

717
00:25:04,798 --> 00:25:09,440
and fair in the way he assesses things.

718
00:25:07,278 --> 00:25:12,319
He's not hyperbolic. The way he

719
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:14,000
describes things is like as clean and as

720
00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:15,839
accurate as possible.

721
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,400
>> He's not trying to sell t-shirts really.

722
00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:20,000
I He's a true journalist. I, you know, I

723
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,919
I wish other people would look at a guy

724
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,038
like that and say that's the way we need

725
00:25:21,919 --> 00:25:24,799
to go with journalism.

726
00:25:23,038 --> 00:25:26,400
>> A real journalist who didn't start off

727
00:25:24,798 --> 00:25:27,839
with this whole UFO thing. He didn't

728
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,600
want to do I mean, he was an actual just

729
00:25:27,839 --> 00:25:30,879
regular journalist until Bob Lazar

730
00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:33,918
contacted him. Y

731
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:36,159
>> and that story um we've I've had Bob on

732
00:25:33,919 --> 00:25:39,200
a couple of times. In fact, this is how

733
00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:40,640
popular this idea is in the American

734
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,159
Zeitgeist.

735
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:45,919
>> The Bazaar episode of this ep of this

736
00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:47,039
podcast is the most viewed episode that

737
00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:47,600
I've ever had on YouTube.

738
00:25:47,038 --> 00:25:51,919
>> Is that right?

739
00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:52,719
>> Yeah. It's got 65 66 66 million views

740
00:25:51,919 --> 00:25:53,360
right now.

741
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,720
>> Wow.

742
00:25:53,359 --> 00:26:00,558
>> Yeah. I mean, a guy who's just talking

743
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:02,798
about how he used to work at S4, Area

744
00:26:00,558 --> 00:26:04,158
51, site 4, where he was back

745
00:26:02,798 --> 00:26:04,720
engineering UFOs,

746
00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:07,039
>> right?

747
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:10,159
>> And there's a new documentary that he

748
00:26:07,038 --> 00:26:13,599
just did uh called S4 where they used

749
00:26:10,159 --> 00:26:17,039
CGI and they made models of the craft

750
00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:18,798
and they made him like they brought him,

751
00:26:17,038 --> 00:26:20,400
you know, they used this technology that

752
00:26:18,798 --> 00:26:20,639
makes it look like he's a lot younger.

753
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,200
>> Yeah.

754
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,840
>> And they showed like what his experience

755
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,480
was. like completely recreated it and it

756
00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:30,879
down to a tea and I I Jamie and I got a

757
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,880
chance to watch it with him with Bob and

758
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,200
Luigi the guy who made the film and it

759
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,559
was is I mean watching how emotional he

760
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,880
gets when he's in the room he's like

761
00:26:36,558 --> 00:26:41,519
this is it this is this is I like it

762
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:44,320
freaks me out it like brings me back cuz

763
00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:45,278
we're talking about 1988 1989 when all

764
00:26:44,319 --> 00:26:47,918
this was going on

765
00:26:45,278 --> 00:26:49,440
>> and he really you know I the last report

766
00:26:47,919 --> 00:26:51,919
I saw it was and somebody interviewed

767
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,000
him in his house I mean he had like a

768
00:26:51,919 --> 00:26:56,400
mid80s Corvette or something, you know.

769
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,240
He's not he not he hasn't cashed in on

770
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,840
it like everybody else seems to do.

771
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,519
>> No, he hasn't made any money off of it

772
00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:03,599
and he's still just a legitimate

773
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:05,440
scientist. He runs United Nuclear Labs.

774
00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:09,359
He's, you know, that's what he does and

775
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:11,038
he a brilliant guy and doesn't want the

776
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,639
attention. Like I it was very difficult

777
00:27:11,038 --> 00:27:15,200
to get him to come back in a second

778
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,720
time, you know, and he wanted to wait

779
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,720
until this documentary was out and come

780
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,079
in and talk again, but he got freaked

781
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,600
out. He drank a lot of whiskey, you

782
00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:23,038
know. He was like he gets weirded out by

783
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:24,959
it all. It's all like [clears throat] to

784
00:27:23,038 --> 00:27:27,038
him the whole experience was very

785
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,480
surreal and strange and

786
00:27:27,038 --> 00:27:30,558
>> well you got you got to figure he's the

787
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,798
one that escaped from all of it and is

788
00:27:30,558 --> 00:27:34,399
still alive and somehow he got out and

789
00:27:32,798 --> 00:27:35,839
was able to do it before they could

790
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,440
silence him. They tried to discredit

791
00:27:35,839 --> 00:27:39,759
him, said he didn't work there. And then

792
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,200
I think he produced check stubs even.

793
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:42,400
>> Well, not just that. They tried to

794
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,319
pretend that he never worked at Los

795
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,840
Alamos Labs, but he was on the employee

796
00:27:44,319 --> 00:27:46,879
roster. There was there was a lot of

797
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:49,199
stuff going on where they tried to

798
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,480
discredit him. But he went public

799
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,159
because he was afraid they were going to

800
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,319
kill him. You know, cuz the initial one

801
00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:55,840
that he gave a fake name and he was a

802
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:58,079
silhouette and he told his story, but

803
00:27:55,839 --> 00:28:00,000
then his home got broken into, his car

804
00:27:58,079 --> 00:28:02,240
was getting broken into, he got shot out

805
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,679
on the highway. It got real weird. And

806
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,960
so he said, "Look, I've got to go

807
00:28:03,679 --> 00:28:06,640
public." like like it might be the only

808
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,640
way to protect myself and he told the

809
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,679
whole story and he hasn't deviated from

810
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,840
that story

811
00:28:09,679 --> 00:28:14,240
>> and that's that's what's really kind of

812
00:28:11,839 --> 00:28:15,599
crazy cuz it's been you know what 40ome

813
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,278
years or close to

814
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:19,678
>> these guys they ask those questions you

815
00:28:17,278 --> 00:28:21,359
know they always oh yeah well and they

816
00:28:19,679 --> 00:28:23,360
say was it red no it's green and then

817
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,519
they were adamant that it was red 10

818
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,599
years ago everything about him has been

819
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:29,359
that he and I' I've seen

820
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:31,678
>> um there was a documentary on him and

821
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,278
they asked somebody to analyze him uh

822
00:28:31,679 --> 00:28:34,159
you know was he telling the truth or not

823
00:28:33,278 --> 00:28:35,599
and he

824
00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:37,919
I think he's telling the truth.

825
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:39,278
>> Yeah, it doesn't seem like he's lying.

826
00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:40,640
But I mean,

827
00:28:39,278 --> 00:28:43,038
>> of course, I'm in the business. I'm in

828
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,634
Congress. So, yeah, he's an amateur.

829
00:28:43,038 --> 00:28:45,519
We're professionals up there, brother.

830
00:28:44,634 --> 00:28:47,120
[laughter]

831
00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,720
You only think you can tell a lie.

832
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:50,398
>> Yeah. They're not very good at it. The

833
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:54,240
people in Congress that are liars, the

834
00:28:50,398 --> 00:28:57,439
problem with liars is they don't really

835
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:59,278
have a good understanding of the truth.

836
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,480
Because if you're lying all the time and

837
00:28:59,278 --> 00:29:05,200
you're forging this like fake narrative,

838
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,200
people see that and so that when you try

839
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,360
to say it as the truth, it doesn't come

840
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,640
off like the truth. There's a feeling

841
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:13,038
that people get when they talk to you.

842
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,799
Now, there's some real crazy people that

843
00:29:13,038 --> 00:29:17,119
are that could just lie. Like really

844
00:29:14,798 --> 00:29:18,798
insane. But generally, they lie about a

845
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:20,398
bunch of stuff. They don't just have one

846
00:29:18,798 --> 00:29:22,720
lie from 1989.

847
00:29:20,398 --> 00:29:24,879
>> The term pathological comes to mind. I'm

848
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,798
Yes. You know that that bass was this

849
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,120
big, you know. [laughter]

850
00:29:26,798 --> 00:29:30,879
Well, his story though, one of the

851
00:29:29,119 --> 00:29:33,519
interesting things is he was talking

852
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,640
about the ways in which the craft moved

853
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:39,359
and then decades later we have footage

854
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,880
that shows these crafts rotating in the

855
00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:42,879
direction that they want to travel then

856
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,039
zooming off. And then of course there

857
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:48,640
was the Commander David Fraver incident

858
00:29:45,038 --> 00:29:51,440
off the coast of San Diego in 2004. And

859
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,440
if that was our technology, the the

860
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,960
thing that puzzles me is if we had

861
00:29:53,440 --> 00:30:00,080
something in 2004 that can go from

862
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:02,480
50,000 ft above sea level to sea level

863
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:05,359
in under a second.

864
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,440
I can't imagine that 22 years later

865
00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:10,158
there would be no advances that it would

866
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,240
have leaked through into mainstream

867
00:30:10,159 --> 00:30:14,159
technology. Well, the energy just along

868
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,599
that the energy it's um you know, we'd

869
00:30:14,159 --> 00:30:18,480
heat our homes in the winter and cool

870
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:20,240
them in the summer, but then again, I

871
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,079
always throw out the war pimps. I'm not

872
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,079
my my daddy fought for this country and

873
00:30:22,079 --> 00:30:25,678
I'm I'm not and you know, that's their

874
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:29,759
business is war and their business is

875
00:30:25,679 --> 00:30:32,880
very good. Um they they will quickly um

876
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:35,038
you know, stand up and and and trash a

877
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,760
guy like Favor. Um he was um he

878
00:30:35,038 --> 00:30:39,759
testified before our committee and I I

879
00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:41,881
was I was taken by what he said I know

880
00:30:39,759 --> 00:30:42,640
him pretty well now but we um

881
00:30:41,881 --> 00:30:47,600
[clears throat] you know we had the

882
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:50,640
committee which was crazy. Uh we uh me

883
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:52,000
and Luna and um a bunch of others got

884
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,840
together and said, "Man, we got to do

885
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,640
this committee. This is we need to do

886
00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:57,918
this." And so I went to the chairman and

887
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,320
he said, [clears throat] "Sure." And

888
00:30:57,919 --> 00:31:03,520
then they sort of blew it off. And then

889
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:04,960
then they want and I go see the staff of

890
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:06,798
these committees. And that's that's the

891
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,880
that's the real problem in Washington.

892
00:31:06,798 --> 00:31:11,519
Reagan said it best. Don't don't term

893
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,840
limit politicians. Term limit staff. You

894
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:15,519
know, I go in there and I'm told, "Yeah,

895
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:17,839
well, I think we want to just talk about

896
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:19,440
this Chinese hot air balloon is what we

897
00:31:17,839 --> 00:31:21,278
want to really talk about." I said, "No.

898
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,720
Hell no. That's not excuse my language.

899
00:31:21,278 --> 00:31:27,278
Heck no. Um, we want to um we want to

900
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,200
talk about dadum UFOs." What people are

901
00:31:27,278 --> 00:31:31,679
calling us about constantly. I mean, it

902
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,319
was just getting so much airplay. And

903
00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:36,320
then, um, I was told by some old-timers,

904
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:38,398
which was kind of cool. They said that,

905
00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:40,000
you know, Tim, I've been here, some of

906
00:31:38,398 --> 00:31:41,599
them been here 10, 15 years, and said

907
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,880
that was the most attended committee

908
00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:44,719
that they could remember. They had to

909
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,960
open up another room so people could be

910
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:50,960
there. I walked out, I was on Fox that

911
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:53,200
morning, and um u I I was going out. I

912
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,360
left my office at 4:30 in the morning

913
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,440
and I was outside and I remember it was

914
00:31:55,359 --> 00:32:00,319
hot because it was summertime and there

915
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:02,159
was people already outside lining up

916
00:32:00,319 --> 00:32:03,759
that had come from all over the country

917
00:32:02,159 --> 00:32:06,000
on their own dime. I mean these weren't

918
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:07,759
like wealthy people. I mean one guy said

919
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,519
this is our vacation this year. were

920
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:11,200
coming to this Dadgum committee meeting

921
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:14,399
and and Joe they were lined up around

922
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:17,440
the hall around everywhere and um that's

923
00:32:14,398 --> 00:32:19,839
where I met Sean Ryan and um a bunch of

924
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,759
people and it was just it was amazing to

925
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:23,199
me and that's when Congress started

926
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:24,960
paying attention to it because they

927
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,840
realized the voters are paying attention

928
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,120
to it.

929
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:29,038
>> Yeah. I mean that might be the only way

930
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:31,918
to put pressure on them. the the thing

931
00:32:29,038 --> 00:32:33,440
about the alternative energy sources.

932
00:32:31,919 --> 00:32:38,159
What one of the things that I was

933
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:40,320
thinking is that if you were involved in

934
00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:42,720
whatever petroleum like what whatever

935
00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:44,720
your business is and there's something

936
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,000
put them out of business and the

937
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,839
Pentagon that was my point on the

938
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,278
Pentagon it would put them out of

939
00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:51,038
business put the oil companies out of

940
00:32:49,278 --> 00:32:53,519
business because they would even showing

941
00:32:51,038 --> 00:32:55,599
a dadum hate signature. You know, if a

942
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:57,038
if a blackbird flies across my farm,

943
00:32:55,599 --> 00:33:01,038
it's going to put out a dum heat

944
00:32:57,038 --> 00:33:03,038
signature. And and through the um uh all

945
00:33:01,038 --> 00:33:05,119
the technology we had, you know, as they

946
00:33:03,038 --> 00:33:06,398
called them, the the tic tac

947
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:08,079
>> tic tacs. Yeah. They look like the

948
00:33:06,398 --> 00:33:08,798
little little mint. And um and that's

949
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:10,720
what they were.

950
00:33:08,798 --> 00:33:12,798
>> That's what Commander David Fraver saw.

951
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,480
>> Yeah. And not only saw, but there's

952
00:33:12,798 --> 00:33:17,038
video footage of it. There's radar

953
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:19,519
footage of it. It's exhibiting travel

954
00:33:17,038 --> 00:33:21,278
that's just beyond comprehension for

955
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:22,720
modern technology, for current state

956
00:33:21,278 --> 00:33:25,519
technology. 100%.

957
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:28,159
>> But if these people were working on some

958
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:31,038
sort of new energy source or some sort

959
00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:33,360
of new propulsion system, and you've got

960
00:33:31,038 --> 00:33:35,839
to imagine there's a very small amount

961
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:38,240
of people that are on the cutting edge

962
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:41,359
of whatever this stuff is. If this is

963
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:44,319
like groundbreaking technology that's

964
00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:46,319
not known by mainstream

965
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:47,918
physicists or whoever's working on it

966
00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:50,158
and you only have a small group of

967
00:33:47,919 --> 00:33:53,360
people, if you whack one of them, you

968
00:33:50,159 --> 00:33:55,039
put a big stop to any progress,

969
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:57,599
especially if you get the main people,

970
00:33:55,038 --> 00:33:59,919
the lead scientist, and that guy winds

971
00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:00,959
up getting assassinated or winds up in

972
00:33:59,919 --> 00:34:02,559
>> disappears. Yeah.

973
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,640
>> Disappear. The one lady was the weird

974
00:34:02,558 --> 00:34:05,759
one. So, she's walking with her

975
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,398
>> Was she hiking or something?

976
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:10,719
>> Yes. walking with her friend. Uh her

977
00:34:08,398 --> 00:34:12,638
friend turns around and talks to her and

978
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,319
then walks a little further, turns

979
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:17,838
around to say something again and she's

980
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:20,240
gone. Just gone. And they bring in dogs.

981
00:34:17,838 --> 00:34:21,679
They have cadaavver dogs. They they

982
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,918
can't find her. There's no trace. No

983
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:25,760
one's seen her since. And this lady was

984
00:34:23,918 --> 00:34:28,319
apparently, wasn't she, Jamie? Wasn't

985
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,800
she involved in some sort of alter

986
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:34,159
alternative technology? Alternative?

987
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:36,079
>> Yeah, I think she she metallurgy was her

988
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:38,000
deal. So you think these

989
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:38,800
>> whatever this craft or whatever have to

990
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,119
be

991
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,519
>> something and I you know I I said this

992
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:45,280
earlier on one time and it made a lot of

993
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:47,358
sense. I was surprised that something I

994
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,800
said did but it sort of stuck. You know

995
00:34:47,358 --> 00:34:50,639
it's like well why don't they just bring

996
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,000
it all out now if they've got it. I

997
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,919
don't think we've got the technology to

998
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,960
figure out what the heck it is. Like I

999
00:34:53,918 --> 00:34:58,799
ride motorcycles. I got an old 47 Indian

1000
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,960
Chief. If I were to take that thing back

1001
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,800
to the when they came over in the

1002
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,320
Mayflower, right? You know, they would

1003
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,480
see it and think that's kind of unusual.

1004
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,079
They might worship his as a god. I know

1005
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:11,358
I sometimes do when I go out to the

1006
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:13,440
garage, but but uh but you know, they're

1007
00:35:11,358 --> 00:35:14,960
going to they're not going to be able to

1008
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,480
adjust the valves. They're not going to

1009
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,679
know what the heck spark plug is. They

1010
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,199
probably wouldn't be able to figure out

1011
00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:21,118
how to make a fuel with a high enough

1012
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:21,519
octane for the thing to kick over,

1013
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:24,480
>> right?

1014
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:26,480
>> Um and and I think that and they might

1015
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,838
polish it. They might get it started.

1016
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,159
And I think that's sort of where we're

1017
00:35:27,838 --> 00:35:32,719
at with this stuff, Joe. I think it's uh

1018
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:34,078
I I think a lot of them have something

1019
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,719
and they just don't know what the heck

1020
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:36,400
to do with it.

1021
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,679
>> Well, that's Bob Lazar's take on it. And

1022
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,559
that was his take on it when he was

1023
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:42,960
working there in 1989. He said they

1024
00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:45,119
understood how to turn it on. They

1025
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,599
didn't exactly understand how it worked

1026
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:49,519
or what it did. And they wanted him to

1027
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:52,400
try to figure it out. those guys that

1028
00:35:49,519 --> 00:35:54,800
came to my house um they they talked

1029
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,280
about that and how these something could

1030
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,280
travel at these light years and and um

1031
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,640
one of them was an astrophysicist and

1032
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,920
and I don't really understand

1033
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:05,679
astrophysics but um it took me six years

1034
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,519
to get out of UT and I didn't drink or

1035
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:08,319
smoke pot so I'm just going to elaborate

1036
00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:10,639
a little bit here if [laughter] that's

1037
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,559
all right with you brother have a degree

1038
00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:13,920
in shop technological adult education I

1039
00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:15,679
can fix your lawn mower I can burn your

1040
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,760
house down if you need it wired but I'll

1041
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:19,440
always have a job but so you got

1042
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,440
something vibrating ating over here and

1043
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,720
then instantly it's over here, right?

1044
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,400
>> And that that's sort of the way they

1045
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,000
explained it, put it on my level to

1046
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,440
understand it. And I mean to me it

1047
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,440
proves that there's a God. I mean

1048
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:32,480
because it's an instantaneous travel

1049
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,559
that we don't quite comprehend. Now is

1050
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,519
there friction involved? Is and and

1051
00:36:34,559 --> 00:36:39,358
that's where the um um when they see

1052
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:43,199
these blobs out there that are floating

1053
00:36:39,358 --> 00:36:44,799
around um they um that are lit up. I've

1054
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:48,159
had several people tell me about that

1055
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:50,640
how these um there was one incident

1056
00:36:48,159 --> 00:36:55,199
where they surrounded a group of our

1057
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:57,519
aircraft and um and it was dur and a lot

1058
00:36:55,199 --> 00:36:58,879
of them deal with nuclear weapons. It

1059
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:01,039
seems that we're around some nukes.

1060
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,760
We've had I always remember I went in

1061
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:05,358
and um it's been a long time since you

1062
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,040
had a man bun. So I'm going I'm going to

1063
00:37:05,358 --> 00:37:09,759
knock on this. had this bureaucrat with

1064
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:11,279
a dad gum man bun telling telling me I

1065
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,040
asked him about a certain incident and

1066
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,560
he said we don't have data points on

1067
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:16,159
that congressman and I said what about

1068
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:17,440
this deal and he said I don't know what

1069
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:19,759
you're talking about I said well google

1070
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,480
it everybody in the world knows about we

1071
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,960
had a we had a nuclear power plant that

1072
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,480
had these things fly over and the dad

1073
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,480
gum thing shut down I mean it's been

1074
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:31,760
documented it has been documented

1075
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,199
unequivocally and you know and and

1076
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,720
that's that and then then you have

1077
00:37:33,199 --> 00:37:36,159
members of Congress go well they said it

1078
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,399
didn't exist so we're out you know, I'm

1079
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:41,598
good. And I'm like, no, no. I'm sitting

1080
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:45,039
there reading these officers that are

1081
00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:47,119
obviously very I read people. God gives

1082
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:49,119
us all a gift. My gift is reading

1083
00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:50,480
somebody. And I was reading these these

1084
00:37:49,119 --> 00:37:52,800
military officers and, you know, they

1085
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,079
had the full in they had all of it. You

1086
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,000
know, they'd been serving for a while

1087
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:57,599
and some of them had done some things.

1088
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,920
And um I could just sit there reading

1089
00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:01,680
them. They're thinking this little twerp

1090
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,358
right here beside me. I'd choke him out

1091
00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:05,279
if I could. You know, I mean, they were

1092
00:38:03,358 --> 00:38:08,000
just like they were angry. No, not at

1093
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,920
me. At him at him because they wanted to

1094
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,320
tell something and this was a Biden

1095
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,400
appointee and you know it just

1096
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,280
>> and and and and that's a lot of the

1097
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,920
times we I was in one situation I'll

1098
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,560
just call it where they sent somebody in

1099
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:27,200
basically just to disrupt and you know

1100
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:29,199
to throw at a at at at a witness and um

1101
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:31,598
and that witness just it was like a he

1102
00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:33,279
was like a pro ball player hitting

1103
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:35,519
T-ball man. He was just knocking them

1104
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,680
out of the dad gum park every said what

1105
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:39,119
about and he gave a date and he said oh

1106
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:40,799
you're talking about this incident well

1107
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:43,039
let me tell you what happened there and

1108
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,880
and he would go through everything and

1109
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:47,119
it was and it was beautiful it was

1110
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,680
beautiful and then he got disgusted and

1111
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:51,519
end up leaving the meeting and you know

1112
00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:53,759
and and that's they they send people in

1113
00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:55,679
to disrupt they're just not going to

1114
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,599
turn and I don't know if the fact that

1115
00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:59,440
and and the corruption in Washington DC

1116
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:01,519
is not like it used to be you know it's

1117
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,200
not like oh I got a picture of you

1118
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:05,759
sleeping with some hooker over in

1119
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:07,039
Istanbul, you know, oh, make copies. I

1120
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,480
want to take it to my buddies. I mean,

1121
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:12,159
that's about the that's about what you'd

1122
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:15,679
get now. But way it is now is I think is

1123
00:39:12,159 --> 00:39:18,239
that some members have a family member

1124
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:20,000
or a wife and or girlfriend that could

1125
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,279
work for one of these groups

1126
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,039
>> and they're told,

1127
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,040
>> "Hey, you want to keep your dad gum job

1128
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:27,279
or you want these pictures to come out

1129
00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:29,519
or whatever? I we need a little help

1130
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,119
here." And then they go disrupt and come

1131
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:33,599
into the committee meetings and ask

1132
00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:35,280
ridiculous questions to try to get a a

1133
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:37,200
partisan fight going.

1134
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,440
>> And maybe some of them do it unbeknownst

1135
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:41,519
to them what they're being told to do,

1136
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,480
but they do it because they're they're

1137
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:44,239
just lap dogs.

1138
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,679
>> So there's a strategy where they have a

1139
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,959
bunch of people that they sort of

1140
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:50,639
compromise as disruptors and they

1141
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,280
>> and they are compromised. Exactly.

1142
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:55,118
That's the word. I I was on a I'm going

1143
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:58,079
to say another one. I was on the Benny

1144
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:59,039
show early when he was early on and um

1145
00:39:58,079 --> 00:39:59,680
and I was talking

1146
00:39:59,039 --> 00:40:00,639
>> Johnson.

1147
00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:03,358
>> Yeah. Yeah.

1148
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:05,838
>> Um and so um he's been very kind to me

1149
00:40:03,358 --> 00:40:06,880
and so he um he asked me about how do

1150
00:40:05,838 --> 00:40:08,480
they do it and I said, "Well, they used

1151
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,880
to do this thing called the honeypot.

1152
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,639
You know, they you'd go to some you go

1153
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,280
on I never go on trips. The only trip

1154
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:18,319
I've ever been on a Kodell was to uh the

1155
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:21,440
border down here uh down in Texas. And I

1156
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,359
um I went down for one day, flew down

1157
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,039
here, saw the border, saw all the people

1158
00:40:23,358 --> 00:40:26,639
coming over the border, got in an

1159
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:28,960
airplane, flew home. I was it was about

1160
00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:30,639
18-hour trip. It wasn't any luxurious. I

1161
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,480
stayed in a room that my buddies at the

1162
00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:34,319
frat house would have probably asked for

1163
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,760
our money back in. It was pretty rough,

1164
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:39,838
you know. Got some good barbecue,

1165
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:42,560
though. But anyway, so I um these guys

1166
00:40:39,838 --> 00:40:43,838
go on these trips and say you're sitting

1167
00:40:42,559 --> 00:40:46,159
down at the bar. I mean, you're a

1168
00:40:43,838 --> 00:40:48,000
good-looking guy. some girl comes up to

1169
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:50,000
you or some guy, whatever your interest,

1170
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,000
whatever your proclivities are and

1171
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,280
laughing at your jokes and you know,

1172
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,159
next thing you know, you're up in the

1173
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,640
bedroom,

1174
00:40:54,159 --> 00:40:56,159
>> right,

1175
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:57,519
>> naked with them. And then you think,

1176
00:40:56,159 --> 00:40:59,759
man, I pulled off the great I pulled

1177
00:40:57,519 --> 00:41:02,079
this off. I was with this smoke show and

1178
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,079
my wife and kids don't know about it and

1179
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:06,318
I'm just going to, you know, me I'm just

1180
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:07,440
just me just between me and the Lord.

1181
00:41:06,318 --> 00:41:10,480
And then you know you're getting ready

1182
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:12,880
to make a key vote and one and a staffer

1183
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,159
comes up or or a lobbyist or something.

1184
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,079
You're in the hall and says, "Hey,

1185
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:17,519
congressman said 'Yeah man, how's it

1186
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:19,599
going?" I said, 'He got this big vote.

1187
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:21,280
Yeah, but I I'm not for y'all on this

1188
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:24,079
one. Okay, we understand. He said, "Hey,

1189
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:26,319
um were you in a motel room in in

1190
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:29,119
Istanbul with a pretty red head one

1191
00:41:26,318 --> 00:41:30,480
time?" And they and they say, "Man, I

1192
00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:31,760
don't want that out. It'll wreck my No,

1193
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,599
we don't want it out. We don't We just

1194
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,680
need your help." And that's how they

1195
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:37,280
sink their claws into you. They used to

1196
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:38,719
and they might do that now. But I was on

1197
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:42,079
the Benny show and I was talking about

1198
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:44,480
that. Oh man, I caught it from I mean as

1199
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:46,000
leadership and members, man, everybody

1200
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,679
thinks we're sleeping. I said I didn't

1201
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,079
say everybody. I just said some of y'all

1202
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:51,679
are. I said, you know, don't don't and

1203
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:53,440
every day you can there's a new one

1204
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:57,519
getting in trouble. So it's not any big

1205
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:59,358
secret. Um 435 of us. So

1206
00:41:57,519 --> 00:42:02,800
>> you get 435 people. You're going to have

1207
00:41:59,358 --> 00:42:05,199
a few freaks in there. Ouch. [laughter]

1208
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,318
435 group of any human beings.

1209
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:08,000
>> Yeah. Any you go to

1210
00:42:06,318 --> 00:42:10,480
>> especially, you know, if you can

1211
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,838
compromise a man with beautiful women,

1212
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,519
it's not that hard to do.

1213
00:42:11,838 --> 00:42:15,119
>> Or if they're if they're gay and they

1214
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:17,280
don't want it out in their in their

1215
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:20,079
public or whatever. So

1216
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,640
>> I I said this to Benny and and I and I

1217
00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:24,318
caught it and then about a week later a

1218
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:26,480
week later and I I said it's probably

1219
00:42:24,318 --> 00:42:28,800
the Chinese, the Russians or something.

1220
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,079
They busted a Chinese prostitution ring.

1221
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,400
And what did they list as their

1222
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:36,079
clientele? [laughter]

1223
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,039
Lobbyists, government employees, and

1224
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:37,599
politicians,

1225
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:39,440
>> of course.

1226
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:41,838
>> And then what happened the next week?

1227
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,920
That story went away. And Benny had does

1228
00:42:41,838 --> 00:42:46,239
this thing. He showed me walking out and

1229
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,920
he like I throw a match and the and the

1230
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,519
whatever behind me just burst into

1231
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,079
flames and I'm walking out, you know.

1232
00:42:49,519 --> 00:42:53,759
It's really cool. And um uh he also did

1233
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:55,519
a song of me singing Dad Gum, which is

1234
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,200
my cuss. I don't cuss, I say Dad Gum.

1235
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:59,599
and he did that. But anyway, but that

1236
00:42:57,199 --> 00:43:01,679
was my point is that they use this stuff

1237
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:03,920
and they know what we want. They, you

1238
00:43:01,679 --> 00:43:06,000
know, these guys, these countries, they

1239
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,838
know uh they own the internet, so they

1240
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,519
know which porn you look at at your in

1241
00:43:07,838 --> 00:43:11,279
the privacy of your home that you think

1242
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:13,440
you're, you know, you got this private

1243
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,599
name on your freaking computer and they

1244
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,679
know, you know, and so that's what

1245
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:19,359
they're going to hit you with. So

1246
00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:22,078
anyway, that's that's a long story, but

1247
00:43:19,358 --> 00:43:23,920
it's I think mostly it's just jobs now.

1248
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:25,680
>> Mostly jobs and influence and figuring

1249
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,800
out Well, you think about you get a dirt

1250
00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:28,399
bag, you're going to get him to sleep

1251
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,000
with some hooker. You know, that that's

1252
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,240
going to happen, you know, eventually,

1253
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,760
too. But I just don't I don't know if

1254
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,838
it's that prevalent. And I had a

1255
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,680
lobbyist tell me one time,

1256
00:43:35,838 --> 00:43:39,199
>> he was uh his name was Tom Hensley. He

1257
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:40,799
was the golden goose. He was a liquor

1258
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:42,639
lobbyist in Nashville, Tennessee. And he

1259
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,640
was a caricature of what a lobbyist is.

1260
00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:47,519
He three-piece suit, big old cowboy

1261
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:50,000
boots, smoking a cigar. And we were at

1262
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:51,440
the Crown Plaza. He liked me because I

1263
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,119
never would vote for his liquor bills,

1264
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:57,679
but I never would vote for a tax on them

1265
00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:59,200
either. So, um he he um he we were there

1266
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:01,279
and the guy from the governor's office

1267
00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:02,639
came and just chewed both of us out, you

1268
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,960
know, just treated me. I'm a legislator

1269
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:06,719
and he was treating me like a dog and I

1270
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,199
and he and Goose is sitting back there

1271
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,959
and he had that fancy Jack Daniels black

1272
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:12,879
label or whatever it is that the fancy

1273
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,039
version of it is cuz he represented Jack

1274
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,200
Daniels made in Tennessee. And he pulls

1275
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:20,239
that big $5 cigar out of mouth and he

1276
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:22,159
goes, "Burch it." He goes, "Governors

1277
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,838
come and go, but the old goose will be

1278
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:25,199
sitting right here." And he said, I

1279
00:44:23,838 --> 00:44:26,719
said, 'What are he gonna do? Is he gonna

1280
00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:28,078
shut you down, man? All these, you gonna

1281
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,959
tell these people stuff? He goes,

1282
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:32,720
Burgett, I just need one chairman. I

1283
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,240
don't need the whole in one body of the

1284
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,159
house, you know, the House or the

1285
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,159
Senate. I just need one chairman that'll

1286
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:39,358
listen to me. And he wasn't saying he

1287
00:44:38,159 --> 00:44:41,199
never did anything crooked in front of

1288
00:44:39,358 --> 00:44:43,358
me and he never offered me any bribes or

1289
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:45,358
anything, right? But that was a good

1290
00:44:43,358 --> 00:44:47,119
lesson to learn as a young man when I

1291
00:44:45,358 --> 00:44:48,799
was in the state legislature. Well, if

1292
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:51,039
you just think about how much money

1293
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,680
Congress people wind up leaving office

1294
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:54,079
with, just that alone is incentive to

1295
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:55,358
play ball.

1296
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:57,599
>> Wait a minute. You don't mean you don't

1297
00:44:55,358 --> 00:45:00,639
think we're making 16,000% on our own

1298
00:44:57,599 --> 00:45:03,200
knowledge? [laughter]

1299
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:05,920
>> I got my daughter called me a while back

1300
00:45:03,199 --> 00:45:08,078
and said, "Dad, um, and she's super

1301
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,079
smart. She's do anything. I'm

1302
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:12,560
veterinarian doctor. I brain surgeon.

1303
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:14,318
She's crazy smart. I married my wife and

1304
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:16,078
adopted her. My wife was a widow, so

1305
00:45:14,318 --> 00:45:17,519
genetically she's not mine. But when she

1306
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:20,000
gets into trouble, my wife says, "That's

1307
00:45:17,519 --> 00:45:21,759
all you, Tim Burton." But she's a

1308
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,679
exceptional little girl. And she said,

1309
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,560
"Dad, I think I'd just like to cut

1310
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:28,719
hair." And I was like, "Right on, girl.

1311
00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:30,400
You go undo it." And u and that's what

1312
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,879
she does. I mean, she's she's going to

1313
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,440
school to do that. So, I cashed out my

1314
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:38,079
$11,000 portfolio, which was a mutual

1315
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:40,079
fund because I think and I don't own any

1316
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:41,440
individual stocks, but I think that

1317
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:43,760
members of Congress ought to do that.

1318
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,679
That was my bill. You don't own more

1319
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,000
people, Joe. more people have played

1320
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:51,279
professional baseball than have ever

1321
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:54,079
been in in Congress. Um, you know, it's

1322
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,920
it's a very it's a very tight it's a

1323
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:57,519
very and I tell people if you don't get

1324
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,760
off that dad gum plane and look at that

1325
00:45:57,519 --> 00:46:01,280
capital and get chill bumps, you need to

1326
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,119
get your butt back on that plane and go

1327
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,040
home because we don't need you there.

1328
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:06,960
And everybody knocks on Pelosi and I

1329
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:09,119
know that. But out of the top 10, you

1330
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,960
know where she is in the in the amount

1331
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:11,920
of trades,

1332
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,559
>> where is she at?

1333
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,800
>> Number 11. She's not even in the top 10,

1334
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:16,719
dude.

1335
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,560
>> Well, she should get a better PR person.

1336
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,959
>> It's crazy cuz everybody uses her as an

1337
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:20,719
example.

1338
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,519
>> I know, but she don't care. I mean, if

1339
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:25,279
you were making 16,000%, would you care?

1340
00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:26,480
>> Oh, I would be a little concerned that

1341
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,920
someone would come for me.

1342
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,760
>> Ah, she's all right. She

1343
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,720
>> Well, it's just bizarre that it's legal.

1344
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,920
That's the most bizarre.

1345
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,759
>> Oh, it's it's it's it's not right. It's

1346
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,358
not right, but it's it's it's legal. And

1347
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,520
I just said, "Look, you cash out

1348
00:46:37,358 --> 00:46:41,119
everything. You put it in a mutual fund.

1349
00:46:39,519 --> 00:46:43,119
And I know they got this bill and

1350
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:44,640
everybody's all fired up for it. And I'm

1351
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:46,800
not a I'm don't know what I'm going to

1352
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:48,799
do about it. I'm bill. They got a new

1353
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,960
bill. They don't like my bill. Mine and

1354
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,640
Luna's bill that says that you um you

1355
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,079
can't own individual stocks. Just own a

1356
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:56,480
mutual fund. They're going to let you

1357
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:58,560
keep your portfolio. So, and some of

1358
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,119
these cats got a $20 million dad gum

1359
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:02,078
portfolio.

1360
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:04,318
>> And they made $170,000 a year, which is

1361
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:07,519
amazing. Imagine the average person out

1362
00:47:04,318 --> 00:47:09,279
there making $170,000 and all a sudden

1363
00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:10,800
they make

1364
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,160
>> a hundred million

1365
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,400
>> in the stock market.

1366
00:47:12,159 --> 00:47:16,480
>> And we're we're involved

1367
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,559
and I not all of them are crooked. Some

1368
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:21,119
of them are they are geniuses. I've been

1369
00:47:18,559 --> 00:47:22,799
in Congress with some real geniuses but

1370
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:24,880
you know if you see I'll give you a case

1371
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,119
in point. All right? And I've said this

1372
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,440
many times and nobody's

1373
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:30,800
uh come after me and said you know they

1374
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,639
told me to quit saying it but I don't

1375
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,240
care. I got a dag on first amendment. I

1376
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:35,920
don't care. They can't they come to

1377
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:41,039
knock to East Tennessee and try to beat

1378
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:42,318
me. But but they um if if uh uh I forgot

1379
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:43,199
what I was saying now, man. I've lost my

1380
00:47:42,318 --> 00:47:44,159
mind. I guess that's part you're going

1381
00:47:43,199 --> 00:47:46,480
to have to cut out.

1382
00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:47,920
>> Oh, no. It's We're talking about insider

1383
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,480
trading. We're talking about the amount

1384
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,318
of money that people generate.

1385
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,960
That's where we're at. We're talking

1386
00:47:52,318 --> 00:47:54,559
about

1387
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,199
>> genius. Someone's a genius. Really good

1388
00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:56,719
at it.

1389
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:58,480
>> Yeah. I'm trying to think. I forgot it.

1390
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,679
I've got so many oneliners in my head,

1391
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,960
Joe. [laughter] I should have written

1392
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:04,879
all these down. Written all these down.

1393
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:06,240
But anyway, um they they all not not all

1394
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,720
of them are crooked. Some of them are

1395
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,639
are really are that good. But I'm sure

1396
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:14,318
>> but Oh, I know what it was. It was it

1397
00:48:10,639 --> 00:48:16,159
was um uh when Russia and invaded

1398
00:48:14,318 --> 00:48:18,400
Ukraine. I haven't voted for a dime for

1399
00:48:16,159 --> 00:48:21,358
that. It's not our dad gum war. I don't

1400
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:24,240
I I keep keep my dollars here. We need

1401
00:48:21,358 --> 00:48:26,880
to defend our own dad gum borders. Well,

1402
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,879
Joe Biden, for better for worse, gave

1403
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,280
Ukraine basically our missile defense

1404
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,920
system. So immediately we had to

1405
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,920
replenish our missile defense system.

1406
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:39,119
Now who do you think owns stock in that

1407
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:40,400
in those missile defense systems?

1408
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:40,880
Members of Congress.

1409
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,960
>> Yeah.

1410
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:46,480
>> Members of Congress. And apparently some

1411
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:49,119
of them had bought it at at fairly close

1412
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,318
to those time periods. And so

1413
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:52,079
>> I don't know. Are they doing something

1414
00:48:50,318 --> 00:48:52,800
crooked? I don't I mean you can't prove

1415
00:48:52,079 --> 00:48:54,480
it.

1416
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,318
>> Well, if it's not crooked, they know

1417
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,880
things that would help them.

1418
00:48:56,318 --> 00:49:00,960
>> And I just they are remove all reproach.

1419
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,559
And if you if you got a $20 million

1420
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,159
portfolio or whatever, some probably

1421
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:06,880
have more than that, you know good and

1422
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:08,159
dad gum well, you're going to vote. It's

1423
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,680
in the back of your mind, you're going

1424
00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:12,318
to vote to make my my investment worth a

1425
00:49:11,679 --> 00:49:16,480
little more.

1426
00:49:12,318 --> 00:49:20,558
>> Yeah. So, the possibility of financial

1427
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:22,480
windfall would probably make people play

1428
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:23,760
ball,

1429
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,480
>> which makes sense. Which makes sense.

1430
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,800
Sure. Human nature. You got you got guys

1431
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:32,880
up there that are that, you know,

1432
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:34,400
they've got they got expenses at home,

1433
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,480
got a couple kids in school, got

1434
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,720
payments on a house, you know, and

1435
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,679
>> $170,000 doesn't go as far as it used

1436
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,879
to, I guess.

1437
00:49:39,679 --> 00:49:45,838
>> And they just human nature. You want

1438
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,680
more. People want more. They they want,

1439
00:49:45,838 --> 00:49:48,880
you know, whatever it is.

1440
00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:50,639
>> And a lot of times it's not them

1441
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,720
investing, it's their,

1442
00:49:50,639 --> 00:49:55,118
>> you know, their wife or their spouse.

1443
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:58,318
And we've seen cases of that where,

1444
00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:59,680
>> you know, a 16-year-old kid is

1445
00:49:58,318 --> 00:50:01,519
>> doing pretty well,

1446
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:03,279
>> right? And it's a child of someone who

1447
00:50:01,519 --> 00:50:04,639
has some inside information. There's

1448
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:08,480
something that just came out yesterday

1449
00:50:04,639 --> 00:50:11,679
about Roana, this a guy Kevin Bass uh on

1450
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:14,480
Twitter posted this big long he this

1451
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:16,078
examination of his stock trades and how

1452
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,960
much money he's made and how he's made

1453
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:21,839
it and what he's done. And there's I

1454
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:24,000
mean it's just all over Congress. It's

1455
00:50:21,838 --> 00:50:24,400
you have inside information. That's what

1456
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,719
it is.

1457
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,039
>> That's disappointing. I know, Ro. But,

1458
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:27,838
you know,

1459
00:50:27,039 --> 00:50:29,519
>> I don't know if it's true.

1460
00:50:27,838 --> 00:50:31,599
>> Yeah. I don't know. I mean, you could

1461
00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:35,199
pull it up if you want, Jamie. It's uh

1462
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:36,720
Kevin Bass, B A S. It's Bass or Bass.

1463
00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:39,039
I'm not sure how to pronounce his last

1464
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:41,279
name, but he made this very detailed

1465
00:50:39,039 --> 00:50:43,920
post about it. But, I mean, that's just

1466
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:47,680
one example of one person who's

1467
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:49,599
profited. I'm sure it's probably minor

1468
00:50:47,679 --> 00:50:50,879
in comparison to the other 11 that are

1469
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:53,119
ahead of Nancy Pelosi.

1470
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,920
>> I sleep on my couch in my office and I

1471
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:58,000
shower in the gym. I don't have a place.

1472
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,240
I can't afford it. It's too expensive up

1473
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,318
there. I was so When I got elected with

1474
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,078
a guy one time and he said when we got

1475
00:51:02,318 --> 00:51:06,079
elected, he said, "Hey Burch, I just

1476
00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:07,680
paid $1.2 million for this place. What

1477
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:09,680
do you think?" And I know he was just

1478
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:11,358
bragging to me, you know, because I no

1479
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:13,440
way I could do something like that. And

1480
00:51:11,358 --> 00:51:14,719
he said, um, and I said, "Well, probably

1481
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,318
in a couple years they're going to say,

1482
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,919
I can't believe you only paid $1.2

1483
00:51:16,318 --> 00:51:19,599
million for it because, damn, the price

1484
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:23,838
of that that real estate up there is

1485
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:26,079
just crazy. It is crazy." And

1486
00:51:23,838 --> 00:51:26,960
it's a rich man's game. It is really a

1487
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:28,960
rich man's game.

1488
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,280
>> And the problem with being around rich

1489
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,039
men is even if you're rich, you don't

1490
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,440
feel like you're rich if you're in

1491
00:51:33,039 --> 00:51:37,119
comparison to them. And so if you're

1492
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,720
worth a couple million and this guy over

1493
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:39,680
here is worth 50, you're like, "Damn, I

1494
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,519
got to up my game.

1495
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:44,078
>> I got to up my game." you're in this

1496
00:51:41,519 --> 00:51:45,440
sort of culture, this culture of a bunch

1497
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:47,440
of people that are investing a bunch of

1498
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,358
money and making a bunch of returns and

1499
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,639
>> and I I'll tell you one it was a public

1500
00:51:49,358 --> 00:51:52,159
meeting. I remember it was in

1501
00:51:50,639 --> 00:51:53,838
transportation that we dealt with some

1502
00:51:52,159 --> 00:51:56,719
technology in an airport and it was

1503
00:51:53,838 --> 00:51:59,759
pretty cool and um I just asked the

1504
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:02,078
question I said uh is that is your stock

1505
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,760
publicly traded? And you know, I looked

1506
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:05,599
I was watching people see what they did.

1507
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,920
Then they all looked up, you know, and I

1508
00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:09,626
thought, note to self, call my broker

1509
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,646
when I walk out of here. You know,

1510
00:52:09,626 --> 00:52:11,646
[laughter]

1511
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,280
>> it's just very odd that that has been

1512
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,599
legal for so long. That's what's very

1513
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,359
odd.

1514
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:21,599
>> It's disgusting. And all here's what

1515
00:52:19,358 --> 00:52:23,440
we're going to do. We'll pass some bill

1516
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:25,039
and the Senate will pass another bill or

1517
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,880
phone just won't take it up, which is

1518
00:52:25,039 --> 00:52:29,279
we're seeing a lot of now. won't take

1519
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:32,160
anything up and it'll die and we'll all

1520
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:34,240
go back back to um our people and say,

1521
00:52:32,159 --> 00:52:35,838
"Oh, look, I tried to do this. I voted

1522
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,399
for this bill, but you know, I didn't

1523
00:52:35,838 --> 00:52:40,239
get a I didn't get a dead gum break, you

1524
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,960
know, and and look how tough we are."

1525
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:45,439
And and or or you know, and and they'll

1526
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,199
all be up at Kenny Bunkport sipping

1527
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,599
expensive wine and toasting each other

1528
00:52:47,199 --> 00:52:51,039
on their great financial choices.

1529
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:52,960
>> That's where Bush is from, right?

1530
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:54,239
>> I don't know. I think so. Yeah. Yeah.

1531
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,720
>> I think they're from Kenny Bunkport,

1532
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,318
Maine.

1533
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,558
>> Yeah. I just threw that one out. It's

1534
00:52:56,318 --> 00:53:00,159
the only place I could think of, Myrtle

1535
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:01,359
Beach, South Carolina for somebody like

1536
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:03,519
me would be pretty cool.

1537
00:53:01,358 --> 00:53:06,318
>> So, one of the things about this uh

1538
00:53:03,519 --> 00:53:08,079
disclosure thing, um the documentary uh

1539
00:53:06,318 --> 00:53:08,800
Age of Disclosure. Yeah. And you're in

1540
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:10,800
that.

1541
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,400
>> Um it's really great. If you haven't

1542
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:15,599
seen it, folks, and you're interested in

1543
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:18,000
the UFO phenomenon, one of the

1544
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:20,559
fascinating uh aspects about age of

1545
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,159
disclosure is you got all these insider

1546
00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:23,440
people that are all talking about all

1547
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:24,879
these different experiences that people

1548
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:30,000
have had and all this stuff that people

1549
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:33,358
know. And one subject came up that made

1550
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:35,679
a lot of sense and it was that if there

1551
00:53:33,358 --> 00:53:38,558
have been back engineering programs and

1552
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:41,838
they've have had access to all this

1553
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:44,559
technology and they've had crashed

1554
00:53:41,838 --> 00:53:46,558
vehicles and biological entities and

1555
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:48,240
they've been all these programs studying

1556
00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:50,319
this for so long they had to have

1557
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,000
funding. So if they had funding that

1558
00:53:50,318 --> 00:53:53,119
means they had to lie to Congress. So if

1559
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,639
they had a lie to Congress there's

1560
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:56,880
misappropriation of funds. So you're

1561
00:53:54,639 --> 00:54:00,078
talking about massive fel felonies. So

1562
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,039
if they don't have some sort of amnesty,

1563
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:02,640
and this is one of the things that's

1564
00:54:01,039 --> 00:54:05,519
pushed throughout this entire

1565
00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:07,519
documentary is that we need some kind of

1566
00:54:05,519 --> 00:54:09,440
mass amnesty.

1567
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:10,880
>> I'm a very skeptical person. I see

1568
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,440
something like that, I'm like, "Okay, I

1569
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:17,358
see what you're doing. You are talking

1570
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:19,599
about UFOs so you can get some sort of

1571
00:54:17,358 --> 00:54:21,519
amnesty for misappropriation of funds."

1572
00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:25,119
And that might just be straight up

1573
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:26,960
fraud. There might be fraud and theft

1574
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:29,280
and you might have moved money into

1575
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,440
offshore accounts and there's must might

1576
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:34,160
a bunch of shady and you could say,

1577
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:38,000
"Oh, but we'll tell you some very

1578
00:54:34,159 --> 00:54:39,440
obscure information about UAPs." I don't

1579
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,079
like that term because it was always

1580
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,159
UFOs.

1581
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:43,359
>> UFOs. That was that was a misdirection.

1582
00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:45,199
I hate that term.

1583
00:54:43,358 --> 00:54:47,759
>> Why do we need a new name? We've already

1584
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:50,558
had that name forever.

1585
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,839
UFOs is fun. UAPs makes me this feels

1586
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:55,200
sanitized. [snorts]

1587
00:54:51,838 --> 00:54:58,960
>> But if they can give you some

1588
00:54:55,199 --> 00:55:00,639
you know, semi shady information. Now

1589
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,199
you've got amnesty. Now you've got

1590
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:06,400
amnesty. And you've got amnesty for

1591
00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:07,519
decades of misappropriation of funds. So

1592
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,920
maybe

1593
00:55:07,519 --> 00:55:12,159
>> some of it is real. Maybe a lot of it is

1594
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,760
real. Maybe a lot of it is really back

1595
00:55:12,159 --> 00:55:15,440
engineering programs. Maybe they really

1596
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:18,160
have been doing these things. and maybe

1597
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:20,079
they can give us slowly trickle down

1598
00:55:18,159 --> 00:55:21,759
some insight as to what's going on.

1599
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:23,359
It'll probably take forever if you ever

1600
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,359
get anything out of it. But in the

1601
00:55:23,358 --> 00:55:29,119
meantime, all these people that have

1602
00:55:25,358 --> 00:55:31,519
made who knows how much money in shady

1603
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:33,358
ways with all this misappropriation of

1604
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:34,559
funds and now they're not in trouble

1605
00:55:33,358 --> 00:55:36,799
anymore.

1606
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:38,720
>> Yeah. Representative Eric Berles has a

1607
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:41,039
bill to do just that and it was but it's

1608
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,639
it's whistleblower protection is the way

1609
00:55:41,039 --> 00:55:46,079
you need to go about that. M

1610
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:49,440
>> and um and and he can't he's tried to

1611
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:51,119
get it attached to bills and he we just

1612
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,480
won't allow it. They won't allow it or

1613
00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:53,760
they put it on and kill it in the

1614
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,838
Senate. You know, it's the same old

1615
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,680
game, Joe, [snorts] back and forth. So

1616
00:55:55,838 --> 00:56:01,199
then the other problem that's brought up

1617
00:55:57,679 --> 00:56:06,399
in age of disclosure is say if you do

1618
00:56:01,199 --> 00:56:08,239
have a retrieved craft from wherever

1619
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,000
another planet another dimension

1620
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:13,199
whatever it is from the ocean whatever

1621
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:15,760
it is and you need to study this thing.

1622
00:56:13,199 --> 00:56:17,039
What where are you bringing it to? Most

1623
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,720
likely you're going to bring it to a

1624
00:56:17,039 --> 00:56:19,519
weapons manufacturing company

1625
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,279
>> 100%.

1626
00:56:19,519 --> 00:56:22,639
>> And so if you do that well what about

1627
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,400
the other companies? They don't have

1628
00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:26,239
access to that. Well then they can sue.

1629
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,000
are thinking why didn't I get access to

1630
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:31,598
that sort of technology why does this

1631
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:34,480
person you've damaged my business or you

1632
00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:36,318
know what have you and also people have

1633
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,199
probably lied under oath about whether

1634
00:56:36,318 --> 00:56:41,920
or not those things exist or what where

1635
00:56:39,199 --> 00:56:43,279
they got certain technologies

1636
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,559
I mean there's a bunch of different

1637
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:48,160
reasons why you could see why logical

1638
00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:49,680
reasons why you could see why they would

1639
00:56:48,159 --> 00:56:51,598
try to try to put the brakes on

1640
00:56:49,679 --> 00:56:54,558
disclosure and try to put some blockades

1641
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:56,640
up and try to obiscate and make things

1642
00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:58,400
much more difficult to get through.

1643
00:56:56,639 --> 00:57:01,039
>> I agree

1644
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,960
100%. And that's why I think these folks

1645
00:57:01,039 --> 00:57:04,318
disappearing and dying unexpect

1646
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,639
unexpectedly are

1647
00:57:04,318 --> 00:57:06,719
>> Yeah.

1648
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:07,519
>> are delivering some of those messages.

1649
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,159
>> Yeah. It's

1650
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:11,519
>> and members of Congress will um you

1651
00:57:10,159 --> 00:57:13,759
know, several of the people that have

1652
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:15,920
been involved that are really heavily

1653
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,599
into it now, they were real skeptics. We

1654
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,200
kind of brought them in. I needed some

1655
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:21,599
skeptics. It couldn't just all be a

1656
00:57:19,199 --> 00:57:24,078
bunch of folks that thought like I did.

1657
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:25,680
and um and they're now not skeptics.

1658
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:26,720
>> Can you give me some examples of like

1659
00:57:25,679 --> 00:57:28,239
how that happened?

1660
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:30,879
>> Yeah. Uh well, we had a committee

1661
00:57:28,239 --> 00:57:34,399
meeting and um my buddy Eric Burlson for

1662
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:36,318
instance, he was he was a skeptic and um

1663
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,720
and and I mean I'm a skeptic of a lot of

1664
00:57:36,318 --> 00:57:42,400
it myself, but I just have been studying

1665
00:57:38,719 --> 00:57:45,199
for sedum along and he um you know he he

1666
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:48,079
was in the committee and and he's asking

1667
00:57:45,199 --> 00:57:50,239
very poignant sharp questions which is

1668
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:54,318
what you're supposed to do in a hearing.

1669
00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:56,399
and um he you know he's he's one of the

1670
00:57:54,318 --> 00:57:59,119
biggest advocates now for total release

1671
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,119
of every of everything matter he's he's

1672
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:02,960
always at the forefront of writing

1673
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:06,559
legislation when we're doing something

1674
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:08,798
we're always me him and Luna um Jared

1675
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:11,839
Moscowitz and the and the on the

1676
00:58:08,798 --> 00:58:13,679
Democrat side is is involved in it a lot

1677
00:58:11,838 --> 00:58:16,719
and uh you know and and other members

1678
00:58:13,679 --> 00:58:18,399
will come in and say hey can um I want

1679
00:58:16,719 --> 00:58:20,000
to be read into this committee or what

1680
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,880
which means they can come on when we do

1681
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,798
the UFO stuff, but nothing really had

1682
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,519
the impact as that first committee

1683
00:58:24,798 --> 00:58:29,759
meeting. And I told people at the end of

1684
00:58:27,519 --> 00:58:31,679
it, I was recognized at the end. I said

1685
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,200
the one thing about and Nancy Mace, of

1686
00:58:31,679 --> 00:58:36,318
course, she's involved with as well. And

1687
00:58:33,199 --> 00:58:37,919
one thing um at the end I said, you

1688
00:58:36,318 --> 00:58:39,920
know, find I just want y'all to know

1689
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,960
that that people do believe you. This is

1690
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:46,000
not some crazy far out thing. And you

1691
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:48,720
all are have a right to be skeptical and

1692
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:51,440
and and ask questions of your government

1693
00:58:48,719 --> 00:58:52,639
and get these answers because

1694
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,960
we're not going to give it to you

1695
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:56,960
without without y'all without y'all

1696
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:58,559
being there and raising these questions.

1697
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,000
>> Well, there's too many stories from too

1698
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:01,839
many credible people, too many people

1699
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,599
like Ryan Graves, too many people like

1700
00:59:01,838 --> 00:59:05,279
Commander David Fraver. There's too many

1701
00:59:03,599 --> 00:59:07,039
people that you just go, I don't know

1702
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,280
why this person would lie about this one

1703
00:59:07,039 --> 00:59:09,119
thing.

1704
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,760
>> Can Can I tell you one that I got on?

1705
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:17,440
Um, I was in the state legislature with

1706
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:19,680
a guy and uh and he was watching um

1707
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,599
Unknown Aliens or something and they

1708
00:59:19,679 --> 00:59:23,279
they film you one time and then they use

1709
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:23,680
you for like three years. Ancient

1710
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,000
Aliens.

1711
00:59:23,679 --> 00:59:27,440
>> Ancient Aliens. I'm sorry. Great. I love

1712
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,599
that show. I love those guys. They're

1713
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:33,039
all great. I love it. I love it.

1714
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:34,798
>> Shout out to Giorgio Giorgio Suclair.

1715
00:59:33,039 --> 00:59:36,159
>> I love that guy. He's I think he's

1716
00:59:34,798 --> 00:59:38,719
Greek. I need to get him to Knoxville

1717
00:59:36,159 --> 00:59:40,318
for for the Greek festival. But anyway,

1718
00:59:38,719 --> 00:59:44,798
he'd [snorts] be a rock star there. But

1719
00:59:40,318 --> 00:59:46,558
so, um, uh, again, we're, you know, I'm

1720
00:59:44,798 --> 00:59:48,000
losing my my train of thought here, Joe.

1721
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:49,200
I don't even smoke weed and I'm losing

1722
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,559
my train of thought. What were we

1723
00:59:49,199 --> 00:59:52,879
talking about here? I hope you edit some

1724
00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:54,720
of this cuz I look We're talking

1725
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,000
about disclosure. We're talking about

1726
00:59:54,719 --> 00:59:57,679
things that people see.

1727
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,679
>> Yeah. Yeah. I was telling you about So,

1728
00:59:57,679 --> 01:00:02,000
I'm I pick up the phone and buddy of

1729
00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:03,199
mine says, "Timbo." And I recognized the

1730
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,880
voice. I said, "Hey, brother. What are

1731
01:00:03,199 --> 01:00:06,798
you up to?" We were in the state house

1732
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,436
together. He said, 'I just saw you on

1733
01:00:06,798 --> 01:00:10,079
Ancient Aliens.' And I said, 'Okay.'

1734
01:00:08,436 --> 01:00:11,039
[laughter] And I thought, here it comes.

1735
01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:12,640
You know, [snorts] hey, you've been

1736
01:00:11,039 --> 01:00:14,639
probed lately. You know, you get that

1737
01:00:12,639 --> 01:00:15,598
stuff from some of the guys gals in

1738
01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:17,838
Congress.

1739
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:19,519
>> And he said, "Can I tell you a story?"

1740
01:00:17,838 --> 01:00:20,639
And I said, "Sure, buddy." And his voice

1741
01:00:19,519 --> 01:00:22,559
kind of got quiet.

1742
01:00:20,639 --> 01:00:25,039
>> And I remember he hollered at his wife.

1743
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:27,839
He said, "Hey." Said her name. He said,

1744
01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:29,599
"Uh, when what year was that?" Is when

1745
01:00:27,838 --> 01:00:31,119
he was in the Navy. And she said it was.

1746
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:33,200
And she gave the date. It was I think in

1747
01:00:31,119 --> 01:00:35,519
the 50s. And [clears throat] he was out

1748
01:00:33,199 --> 01:00:37,118
on a boat. and I don't know, you know,

1749
01:00:35,519 --> 01:00:39,039
battleship from an aircraft carrier, but

1750
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:42,240
anyway, he's out on a boat and they were

1751
01:00:39,039 --> 01:00:44,000
arming a sub with um with nukes. It was

1752
01:00:42,239 --> 01:00:46,479
in the early part of that where the subs

1753
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:48,639
could launch nuclear weapons and they

1754
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:51,199
were all out on the deck and all of a

1755
01:00:48,639 --> 01:00:54,000
sudden it got there's just a cloud over

1756
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:57,358
them. He said he looked up and he saw

1757
01:00:54,000 --> 01:01:00,798
this humongous saucer in the air and he

1758
01:00:57,358 --> 01:01:02,880
said he said Timbo he said if that thing

1759
01:01:00,798 --> 01:01:05,199
wasn't two block if that thing wasn't

1760
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,358
two blocks long I I'll kiss your butt

1761
01:01:05,199 --> 01:01:09,519
and I said and and he described it to me

1762
01:01:07,358 --> 01:01:11,598
you know he said he gave the color and

1763
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:13,838
he and it was the classic saucer he said

1764
01:01:11,599 --> 01:01:16,400
there was lights coming out of portals

1765
01:01:13,838 --> 01:01:18,558
around it and he said it made no noise

1766
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,519
whatsoever and it just sat there and

1767
01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:24,240
hovered and they just looked up at it

1768
01:01:21,519 --> 01:01:27,440
and then it just went it just went

1769
01:01:24,239 --> 01:01:29,919
straight up. No noise, no nothing, no

1770
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:32,000
anything. And um I mean I was just like,

1771
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:34,720
"What the heck was that?" You know, and

1772
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:37,760
so when they get back to port, [snorts]

1773
01:01:34,719 --> 01:01:39,358
the guys in the suits come on the the

1774
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,040
you know, the so-called men in black. I

1775
01:01:39,358 --> 01:01:43,199
just they're just spooks CIA or

1776
01:01:41,039 --> 01:01:44,719
something and told them they said, "This

1777
01:01:43,199 --> 01:01:48,000
is national security. if you talk about

1778
01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:49,679
this uh we'll um you'll be in

1779
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,760
Levvenworth the rest of your dad lives

1780
01:01:49,679 --> 01:01:53,199
busting rocks and back then that you

1781
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,880
know nobody the cell phone wasn't

1782
01:01:53,199 --> 01:01:55,358
invented Al Gore hadn't invented the

1783
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,160
internet yet.

1784
01:01:55,358 --> 01:01:58,960
>> What year was this?

1785
01:01:56,159 --> 01:02:01,440
>> It would have been in the uh the 50s

1786
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:04,159
late 50s late 50s I believe [snorts] or

1787
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:06,159
early 60s. So, and then but he gave me

1788
01:02:04,159 --> 01:02:09,519
some descriptions and after this came

1789
01:02:06,159 --> 01:02:11,440
out, I mean my phone, Joe, every day

1790
01:02:09,519 --> 01:02:13,039
when this started breaking, I would get

1791
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,720
somebody would call me and send me

1792
01:02:13,039 --> 01:02:16,719
pictures of something, you know, that's

1793
01:02:14,719 --> 01:02:18,239
like a reflection or something, you

1794
01:02:16,719 --> 01:02:19,358
know, and oh, come out to my house. All

1795
01:02:18,239 --> 01:02:21,039
right, I'm afraid I was going to end up

1796
01:02:19,358 --> 01:02:22,639
in a freezer in North Carolina or

1797
01:02:21,039 --> 01:02:24,023
something, you know, [laughter] be

1798
01:02:22,639 --> 01:02:24,879
somebody's dinner. And I was like,

1799
01:02:24,023 --> 01:02:26,079
[snorts] I don't want to go out there

1800
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,160
and look at it. Just send me a picture

1801
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:29,760
of it. And every day, but then I get I

1802
01:02:28,159 --> 01:02:32,798
got a call from a guy who was Air Force

1803
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:35,599
and I and I I Googled him. He's legit.

1804
01:02:32,798 --> 01:02:38,719
And he told me about a um a sighting he

1805
01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:41,519
had. He was out um they were out fishing

1806
01:02:38,719 --> 01:02:43,279
um in Florida and and it was near where

1807
01:02:41,519 --> 01:02:47,039
one of the military bases was and this

1808
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:49,040
thing and he described exactly what my

1809
01:02:47,039 --> 01:02:52,639
buddy had seen and this he saw this in

1810
01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:55,440
the um I think the early 80s and or late

1811
01:02:52,639 --> 01:02:57,838
70s and he described this craft that was

1812
01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:00,159
just hovering and it was just going

1813
01:02:57,838 --> 01:03:01,759
along and these then you know it was

1814
01:03:00,159 --> 01:03:03,279
just going on a pretty good click and he

1815
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,280
said these jets were trying to keep up

1816
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,253
with it. he could tell by the, you know,

1817
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:09,359
because he's an Air Force guy and

1818
01:03:07,253 --> 01:03:12,559
[snorts] he was an officer and um it was

1819
01:03:09,358 --> 01:03:17,598
legitimate and I've since read the story

1820
01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:20,000
that he told, but um but it was it was

1821
01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:22,559
strangely identical

1822
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:25,039
>> in the the the color,

1823
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:28,798
>> the you know, the texture was it was an

1824
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:30,000
off gray, I believe. And um and but it

1825
01:03:28,798 --> 01:03:31,599
didn't really matter, but it was just

1826
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,318
the same one that they said. could have

1827
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:37,760
been chartreuse for all I know. But they

1828
01:03:34,318 --> 01:03:41,038
um but the the the size and the uh

1829
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:43,839
circumference and the um the the dome on

1830
01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:46,319
top and the port holes and just

1831
01:03:43,838 --> 01:03:48,318
everything was just very very similar to

1832
01:03:46,318 --> 01:03:51,038
what this guy had told me about just a

1833
01:03:48,318 --> 01:03:52,960
few weeks prior. And you when you see

1834
01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:55,440
identical things of people that have no

1835
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,119
contact with each other to me that that

1836
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,559
says something. And with these pilots

1837
01:03:57,119 --> 01:04:00,240
they're risking their careers to come

1838
01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:03,200
forward. And those engineers in Age of

1839
01:04:00,239 --> 01:04:04,719
Discovery that come forward, their their

1840
01:04:03,199 --> 01:04:04,960
reputations and everything are on the

1841
01:04:04,719 --> 01:04:06,480
line,

1842
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,760
>> right? These aren't rich people. They

1843
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,838
can't just retire.

1844
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,599
>> No. And they're good folks. I've hung

1845
01:04:09,838 --> 01:04:13,759
out with them when came when they had

1846
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:16,960
the world premiere, which was something

1847
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:19,599
else. Me standing on a red red carpet. A

1848
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,798
little out of place in that

1849
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:23,680
at at a film festival.

1850
01:04:20,798 --> 01:04:27,519
>> Yeah. No, I'm sure I avoid those things.

1851
01:04:23,679 --> 01:04:30,480
They're weird. But this uh this subject

1852
01:04:27,519 --> 01:04:32,639
when you talk about them uh appearing

1853
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:35,440
over bases, appearing over aircraft

1854
01:04:32,639 --> 01:04:37,838
carriers, appearing over submarines that

1855
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:40,000
have nuclear capability,

1856
01:04:37,838 --> 01:04:41,440
it kind of makes sense that if you were

1857
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,440
from another planet or you're from

1858
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:46,079
another dimension or wherever it is and

1859
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:48,000
you're monitoring what seems to be the

1860
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:50,160
most intelligent species and the most

1861
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,639
capable species on the planet that when

1862
01:04:50,159 --> 01:04:55,759
they would get access to something like

1863
01:04:52,639 --> 01:04:57,759
that, like all The UFO sightings ramped

1864
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,880
up considerably after World War II.

1865
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,160
After we dropped the bombs.

1866
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:03,680
>> After we dropped the bomb.

1867
01:05:00,159 --> 01:05:05,759
>> Yeah. There was a considerable amount of

1868
01:05:03,679 --> 01:05:08,719
activity. You know, that's when Kenneth

1869
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,839
Arnold first saw those things and talked

1870
01:05:08,719 --> 01:05:11,598
about them as flying saucers.

1871
01:05:09,838 --> 01:05:13,199
>> Called them flying saucers.

1872
01:05:11,599 --> 01:05:15,359
>> Washington State. Is that what that was?

1873
01:05:13,199 --> 01:05:16,960
They look like said they look like stone

1874
01:05:15,358 --> 01:05:17,920
skipping across the look like little

1875
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:21,519
saucers.

1876
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:24,559
>> Yeah. So that's where the term first got

1877
01:05:21,519 --> 01:05:26,798
introduced into the modern world. And

1878
01:05:24,559 --> 01:05:28,559
then you see so many of them and then

1879
01:05:26,798 --> 01:05:30,480
you hear these stories about them going

1880
01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:33,760
flying over nuclear bases and hovering

1881
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:35,440
over and shutting down the equipment and

1882
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,280
just the fact that they would hover over

1883
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:40,079
that submarine and then take off. Just

1884
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:42,559
to let you know like that's what we can

1885
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:44,000
do. It was probably a smart move if you

1886
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:47,440
if you don't want to completely

1887
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:48,880
intervene and like kidnap people and

1888
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,240
shut down the government and land on the

1889
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:53,838
White House lawn and freak everybody

1890
01:05:50,239 --> 01:05:55,598
out. What better way than to take

1891
01:05:53,838 --> 01:05:57,199
something that's completely isolated

1892
01:05:55,599 --> 01:05:58,318
like a submarine in the ocean where you

1893
01:05:57,199 --> 01:06:00,558
know everybody's going to lock

1894
01:05:58,318 --> 01:06:04,079
everything down top secret and just show

1895
01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:07,920
yourself and just like hey like

1896
01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:10,240
we're here we're here and we are

1897
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,280
watching everything so don't do anything

1898
01:06:10,239 --> 01:06:13,598
stupid

1899
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:16,960
>> you know you talked about that that that

1900
01:06:13,599 --> 01:06:19,039
issue or episode I remember when they um

1901
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:21,039
at first I've never been invited back of

1902
01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:23,100
course but the um intelligence committ

1903
01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:24,240
committee when they did the UFO thing

1904
01:06:23,099 --> 01:06:26,239
[snorts] and there was they had these

1905
01:06:24,239 --> 01:06:29,279
all these seats and it was an open to

1906
01:06:26,239 --> 01:06:31,358
the open to the everybody, Congress and

1907
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,440
the press and everybody and they had all

1908
01:06:31,358 --> 01:06:35,119
these seats behind these this white bl

1909
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:38,720
this white guy and this black guy who

1910
01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:41,119
were appointed to oversee the UAP issue

1911
01:06:38,719 --> 01:06:42,639
which um and I remembered I thought I'm

1912
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:44,880
going to get there early, get the seat

1913
01:06:42,639 --> 01:06:46,879
down front and I sat right behind those

1914
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,318
guys and nobody else showed up. I was

1915
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:51,519
the only member of Congress outside of

1916
01:06:48,318 --> 01:06:53,759
the members in the in the um in on the

1917
01:06:51,519 --> 01:06:55,759
committee. And Joe, those guys couldn't

1918
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:59,280
spell UFO. I mean, they were

1919
01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:02,079
intelligent. They were um I'm sure

1920
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:04,240
they're patriots. They had no clue about

1921
01:07:02,079 --> 01:07:07,200
anything. So, there's questions asked

1922
01:07:04,239 --> 01:07:08,719
about certain incidents and uh we don't

1923
01:07:07,199 --> 01:07:10,159
know anything about that, you know. And

1924
01:07:08,719 --> 01:07:12,318
I thought to myself, that's when the

1925
01:07:10,159 --> 01:07:14,480
compartmentalization

1926
01:07:12,318 --> 01:07:16,159
uh came to in my mind, how they

1927
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,679
compartmentalize that stuff because to

1928
01:07:16,159 --> 01:07:19,279
them, they could take a lie detector

1929
01:07:17,679 --> 01:07:21,199
test and say, I don't know anything

1930
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,640
about it. Because they are kept away

1931
01:07:21,199 --> 01:07:24,558
from it. It's like they're looking down

1932
01:07:22,639 --> 01:07:26,719
the barrel of a .22 rifle, man. It's

1933
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:28,480
just a little bitty area and they don't

1934
01:07:26,719 --> 01:07:30,078
get outside that area and they don't ask

1935
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,880
questions and they don't unless they're

1936
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:32,400
told.

1937
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,599
>> And if you want to keep your career,

1938
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,280
that's how you have to operate

1939
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:37,680
>> and your pension and everything else.

1940
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:40,000
Absolutely. It makes sense. That that

1941
01:07:37,679 --> 01:07:44,639
aspect of it makes sense. Um what

1942
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:47,519
doesn't totally make sense is why now

1943
01:07:44,639 --> 01:07:49,759
disclosure other than [snorts]

1944
01:07:47,519 --> 01:07:51,679
um I mean this is being cynical. The

1945
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,359
Iran war is not going very well.

1946
01:07:51,679 --> 01:07:54,480
American public's very upset. A lot of

1947
01:07:53,358 --> 01:07:55,598
people don't think we should have ever

1948
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,599
been involved in that in the first

1949
01:07:55,599 --> 01:08:00,240
place. And we need some good news.

1950
01:07:57,599 --> 01:08:01,838
>> I think we um some I

1951
01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:03,919
>> we need something to distract us. We

1952
01:08:01,838 --> 01:08:05,440
need something to take our focus off of.

1953
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,039
If I was gonna do it, now would be the

1954
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,119
time I'd do it. Yeah. But yeah,

1955
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:10,480
>> I I don't think Trump really even cares.

1956
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:10,720
I think he just wants to get it out

1957
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,079
there.

1958
01:08:10,719 --> 01:08:14,239
>> Well, I think he does, too. You know,

1959
01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:14,640
he's talked about it. Like, and he's

1960
01:08:14,239 --> 01:08:15,598
also

1961
01:08:14,639 --> 01:08:17,519
>> I mean, no, I mean, I don't think he

1962
01:08:15,599 --> 01:08:20,000
cares about

1963
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:22,319
um trying to get a everybody off off

1964
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:24,238
target, you know, by by disclosing UFOs.

1965
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:26,080
I think he cares about all of it, but I

1966
01:08:24,238 --> 01:08:28,158
don't think he cares that if they're

1967
01:08:26,079 --> 01:08:30,798
talking about it or not. I just think he

1968
01:08:28,158 --> 01:08:32,559
he genuinely sees that America needs to

1969
01:08:30,798 --> 01:08:35,600
know this stuff. Well, he also realizes

1970
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:37,120
America wants to know it and he's an

1971
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,520
outsider. I mean, even though he's the

1972
01:08:37,119 --> 01:08:42,079
president, he is in a lot of ways he's

1973
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:43,679
an outsider. And

1974
01:08:42,079 --> 01:08:45,039
>> I mean, this is his last term,

1975
01:08:43,679 --> 01:08:46,319
>> right? And so, it's like if you're going

1976
01:08:45,039 --> 01:08:48,319
to if someone's going to do it, do it.

1977
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:50,560
You want to leave a legacy, be the guy

1978
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:52,400
who releases all these files.

1979
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:55,679
>> I tried to kill him three times. Yeah.

1980
01:08:52,399 --> 01:08:57,679
So, you know, it's not and that ain't no

1981
01:08:55,679 --> 01:09:00,079
>> Did you see that judge that apologized

1982
01:08:57,679 --> 01:09:03,119
to the guy that Did you see the story?

1983
01:09:00,079 --> 01:09:04,798
>> No. Okay. The guy who was at the White

1984
01:09:03,119 --> 01:09:06,399
House correspondents dinner that shot

1985
01:09:04,798 --> 01:09:08,880
one of the Secret Service agents and the

1986
01:09:06,399 --> 01:09:11,119
guy got arrested. Yeah. The judge who's

1987
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:14,056
dealing with the case apologized to him

1988
01:09:11,119 --> 01:09:14,238
for his treatment in jail.

1989
01:09:14,056 --> 01:09:15,759
[laughter]

1990
01:09:14,238 --> 01:09:16,318
>> Do you have that, Jamie? See if you can

1991
01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:17,838
find that.

1992
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:18,239
>> He should have gotten some quality stick

1993
01:09:17,838 --> 01:09:21,679
time.

1994
01:09:18,238 --> 01:09:24,000
>> This is another guy. This judge also uh

1995
01:09:21,679 --> 01:09:25,600
released another man who was arrested

1996
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,439
for threatening to kill Trump.

1997
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:29,279
>> Oh,

1998
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,399
Trump derangement syndrome is real,

1999
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:33,279
dude. It's ridiculous.

2000
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:36,318
>> But the way this guy addressed this man,

2001
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:37,679
it's almost as if he was condoning it.

2002
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:38,880
Look at it. Says, "The indictment comes

2003
01:09:37,679 --> 01:09:40,560
the day after the judge overseeing the

2004
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,960
case against Allen expressed grave

2005
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:45,120
concerns about how he's being treated in

2006
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:47,039
jail and apologized to him in court."

2007
01:09:45,119 --> 01:09:49,198
You're talking about a guy who showed up

2008
01:09:47,039 --> 01:09:49,920
with a rifle or a shotgun.

2009
01:09:49,198 --> 01:09:51,919
>> Shotgun,

2010
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,920
>> shot a Secret Service agent, obviously

2011
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,679
in the vest. The guy's okay. But

2012
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:58,880
whatever you've been through, I

2013
01:09:55,679 --> 01:10:02,640
apologize for the prior week. Magistrate

2014
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:04,640
Judge Zia Farukqui, I don't know if I'm

2015
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:06,239
saying that right, said during a hearing

2016
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,679
in Washington DC on Monday. According to

2017
01:10:06,238 --> 01:10:09,599
the court documents filed over the

2018
01:10:07,679 --> 01:10:12,640
weekend, Allan had been in solitary

2019
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:14,480
confinement oh poor baby at the DC jail

2020
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,640
after being placed on suicide watch

2021
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:18,799
after his arrest on April 25th. His

2022
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:21,280
lawyers said that he was housed in a

2023
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:23,119
permanently illuminated safe cell with

2024
01:10:21,279 --> 01:10:25,198
no access to personal items or jail

2025
01:10:23,119 --> 01:10:27,679
visits despite repeated assessments

2026
01:10:25,198 --> 01:10:31,198
showing he did not exhibit any suicide

2027
01:10:27,679 --> 01:10:34,158
factors. In an order issued on Sunday,

2028
01:10:31,198 --> 01:10:36,399
uh Farooqi uh wrote that he had grave

2029
01:10:34,158 --> 01:10:38,319
concerns about the conditions Allen was

2030
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:41,039
being kept in, which he said were

2031
01:10:38,319 --> 01:10:43,359
seemingly unprompted by the facts of the

2032
01:10:41,039 --> 01:10:45,519
case. It could drive a person crazy to

2033
01:10:43,359 --> 01:10:48,960
be in that situation. Fugly said during

2034
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:52,960
Monday's hearing that is really crazy.

2035
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:56,319
>> That is that is really a crazy thing to

2036
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:58,480
apologize for someone who was trying to

2037
01:10:56,319 --> 01:10:59,679
at least assume you're you're assuming

2038
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:02,000
he was trying to kill the president.

2039
01:10:59,679 --> 01:11:04,319
>> The guy's been programmed to do this. He

2040
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,800
immediately turns,

2041
01:11:04,319 --> 01:11:10,479
you know, from one way to the other

2042
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:12,000
overnight almost. And this is and we're

2043
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:12,158
seeing this more and more. I think I

2044
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,039
think

2045
01:11:12,158 --> 01:11:13,920
>> What do you mean the guys have been

2046
01:11:13,039 --> 01:11:16,238
programmed?

2047
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:18,480
>> I think these people are um [snorts]

2048
01:11:16,238 --> 01:11:19,198
>> You mean like MK Ultra type programming?

2049
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:19,599
>> 100%.

2050
01:11:19,198 --> 01:11:20,960
>> Really?

2051
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:23,440
>> I think so. But it's a different, you

2052
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:25,600
know, MK, you're the expert on it.

2053
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:27,678
>> Um, not really. Well, don't say that.

2054
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,800
>> Well, [laughter] no. I don't want to get

2055
01:11:27,679 --> 01:11:30,239
you bumped off.

2056
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,760
>> Knows [clears throat] what about it.

2057
01:11:30,238 --> 01:11:33,519
>> Let somebody else go start your car when

2058
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,640
you walk out there and wait 30 minutes.

2059
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,920
>> Make me an expert.

2060
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,159
>> Yeah. [laughter]

2061
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:40,000
>> I know nothing. But you know that the

2062
01:11:38,158 --> 01:11:42,479
CIA they they were grabbing these people

2063
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,479
up and giving them I guess acid or LSD

2064
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,238
whatever and then programming them and

2065
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,399
then then they said they weren't doing

2066
01:11:46,238 --> 01:11:50,559
it and then they got sued and they said

2067
01:11:48,399 --> 01:11:52,479
oh we we lied. We were doing it but

2068
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,080
we're not doing it anymore. Now which

2069
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,678
time are they not? So here's here's my

2070
01:11:54,079 --> 01:11:57,840
thought on this. I think you've got a

2071
01:11:55,679 --> 01:11:59,440
bunch of people today because of this.

2072
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,520
It's just open up

2073
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:04,479
>> open up your head and pour it in. and

2074
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:07,040
they can put these things out to people

2075
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:08,879
just enough to where they know that

2076
01:12:07,039 --> 01:12:10,000
there's going to be a reaction. There's

2077
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,520
some people, you and I are going to read

2078
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,479
this stuff and go, "Ah, you know, and

2079
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,640
there's some people that are just going

2080
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:16,158
to stay awake at night and just fume." I

2081
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:18,079
know people that read stuff and they'll

2082
01:12:16,158 --> 01:12:20,238
call me and text me and said, "Can you

2083
01:12:18,079 --> 01:12:22,238
believe this?" And I'm like, "Dude, man,

2084
01:12:20,238 --> 01:12:24,399
I live this stuff. Cool out. We're good.

2085
01:12:22,238 --> 01:12:26,559
We're okay." And I think that these

2086
01:12:24,399 --> 01:12:28,479
folks, they know who they are and they

2087
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,080
can they can target them. You know, how

2088
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:32,158
many of these people are going to be are

2089
01:12:30,079 --> 01:12:35,359
we going to find that have no internet

2090
01:12:32,158 --> 01:12:36,479
access, have no history of being on the

2091
01:12:35,359 --> 01:12:37,519
internet, you know,

2092
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:39,519
>> like Thomas Crooks.

2093
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:42,960
>> Yeah. That that's just that's just total

2094
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:45,280
BS. Total BS. Oh, we couldn't we let him

2095
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,640
on the roof and you know, and and then

2096
01:12:45,279 --> 01:12:47,920
>> also they couldn't get snipers on that

2097
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,520
roof because the slope was too steep.

2098
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,760
>> Yeah. We had we had members of Congress

2099
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:54,560
that are older than I I think Daryl Isa

2100
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,920
was there. Um I [snorts] know um a

2101
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,039
couple other guys were there, too. I

2102
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,560
mean, he's an older guy. He's older than

2103
01:12:57,039 --> 01:13:01,119
me. I think he was walking around up on

2104
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,719
it, you know, and and that's bogus.

2105
01:13:01,119 --> 01:13:05,439
That's totally bogus. They put Trump in

2106
01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:06,960
a bad position. And you know, that's the

2107
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,759
thing. You'll never know. You'll never

2108
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,039
Here's another thing we should talk

2109
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,840
about. Dead men tell no tales.

2110
01:13:09,039 --> 01:13:11,198
>> There's another thing we should talk

2111
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,360
about. There's a lot of people running

2112
01:13:11,198 --> 01:13:15,519
around out there saying that that first

2113
01:13:13,359 --> 01:13:17,599
Trump assassination was a setup and that

2114
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,960
it was a hoax and that Trump did it to

2115
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,360
try to get people to be more sympathetic

2116
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:24,800
to him. Anybody who says that doesn't

2117
01:13:21,359 --> 01:13:27,920
know anything about guns. No. because

2118
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:31,279
the shot was from how far was it? Was it

2119
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:35,119
140 yards? Is that what it was, Jamie?

2120
01:13:31,279 --> 01:13:38,800
Um, there is not a person on earth that

2121
01:13:35,119 --> 01:13:41,519
could nick your ear at 140 yards

2122
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:44,719
reliably. Not only that, but miss other

2123
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:46,880
shots first, kill someone behind you,

2124
01:13:44,719 --> 01:13:50,158
shoot another person as well, and just

2125
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:51,440
nick his ear. And just by the grace of

2126
01:13:50,158 --> 01:13:54,479
God, by

2127
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:56,319
>> just sheer luck, he turns his head at

2128
01:13:54,479 --> 01:14:00,799
the right time and he catches his ear.

2129
01:13:56,319 --> 01:14:03,759
Okay. 120 to 140 m or 135 to 150 yards

2130
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:05,360
away during the rally. Uh he was

2131
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,440
positioned on top of an AGR

2132
01:14:05,359 --> 01:14:09,039
international building which provided a

2133
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:11,759
clear line of sight to the stage. Just

2134
01:14:09,039 --> 01:14:13,760
that alone is a a tremendous failure of

2135
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:16,320
security. the fact that they didn't

2136
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:18,800
search and look at these buildings that

2137
01:14:16,319 --> 01:14:20,960
you don't have drones above scanning the

2138
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:24,640
area where you have a potential line of

2139
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:25,279
sight, a easy shot with someone with a

2140
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:28,159
scope.

2141
01:14:25,279 --> 01:14:30,319
>> And my my buddy Eli Crane, he's a he's a

2142
01:14:28,158 --> 01:14:32,559
sniper and he said, you know, I could

2143
01:14:30,319 --> 01:14:34,880
have I could have made that shot, you

2144
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,520
know, because he's a SEAL sniper and my

2145
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,960
>> Oh, 100%.

2146
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,159
>> My brother-in-law Cliff was a marine

2147
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,239
sniper and he said, I could have

2148
01:14:38,158 --> 01:14:41,920
probably done it with steel sights, Tim.

2149
01:14:40,238 --> 01:14:42,639
Well, he did. Did Did the man have steel

2150
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,920
sights or did he

2151
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,119
>> Yeah, he did have steel sights. He had

2152
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:48,079
>> So, he didn't have a scope.

2153
01:14:45,119 --> 01:14:49,760
>> Uhuh. And the thing to me is that he um

2154
01:14:48,079 --> 01:14:51,840
he [snorts] got up there and people were

2155
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:54,400
pointing at him. It was just a complete

2156
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:57,039
Is it a breakdown? You think is it a

2157
01:14:54,399 --> 01:14:59,279
breakdown? It's a breakdown. If I if if

2158
01:14:57,039 --> 01:15:01,519
Tim Burchett sneaks into the back of a a

2159
01:14:59,279 --> 01:15:04,000
Leonard Skard concert and gets close to

2160
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:06,239
the stage, that's a breakdown. That to

2161
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,000
me is a complete capitulation. They put

2162
01:15:06,238 --> 01:15:09,279
Trump out there and there's people that

2163
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:12,960
don't like him. You can say what you

2164
01:15:09,279 --> 01:15:14,800
want to about programming and things. I

2165
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,719
just think it's it's it's out there. I

2166
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,880
think it is a reality and I think we

2167
01:15:16,719 --> 01:15:21,439
better people better wake up because

2168
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,960
there Washington DC is not a um

2169
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,719
everybody wants to call it a swamp.

2170
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,279
>> Okay. So, it does have a it does have a

2171
01:15:24,719 --> 01:15:26,560
scope.

2172
01:15:25,279 --> 01:15:27,679
>> It does have a scope.

2173
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,320
>> Yeah, that's a red dot.

2174
01:15:27,679 --> 01:15:30,239
>> Okay.

2175
01:15:28,319 --> 01:15:34,158
>> I mean, I don't know if it's magnified.

2176
01:15:30,238 --> 01:15:35,926
It says optics attached to rail AEMS uh

2177
01:15:34,158 --> 01:15:38,319
optics.

2178
01:15:35,926 --> 01:15:40,000
[snorts] So, I don't know. I'd have to

2179
01:15:38,319 --> 01:15:42,399
talk to some of my guys out front about

2180
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:44,479
like what kind of a what kind of a sight

2181
01:15:42,399 --> 01:15:45,920
that is, what kind of optics that is.

2182
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:49,279
>> I don't know if it's magnified or if

2183
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:52,399
it's like pistol optics. But either way,

2184
01:15:49,279 --> 01:15:55,920
even if it's just if he's prone and he's

2185
01:15:52,399 --> 01:15:58,319
got a rifle and it says uh yeah, check

2186
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:01,440
it out, Jamie. [clears throat]

2187
01:15:58,319 --> 01:16:03,439
>> I think that's just the um the setup,

2188
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:08,021
though. I don't think that's actually

2189
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:09,839
the uh I think AMS optics AEMS optics is

2190
01:16:08,021 --> 01:16:11,359
[snorts]

2191
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:14,239
>> the optics

2192
01:16:11,359 --> 01:16:16,000
>> right modeled modified with a

2193
01:16:14,238 --> 01:16:17,119
collapsible stock

2194
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,198
>> red dot site.

2195
01:16:17,119 --> 01:16:21,439
>> Yeah. So it's a red dot. I don't know if

2196
01:16:19,198 --> 01:16:22,639
that's magnified. I don't think that's

2197
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:22,960
magnified. I think

2198
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,239
>> Yeah.

2199
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,000
>> I think that's just like what you get on

2200
01:16:24,238 --> 01:16:27,439
a pistol. It just makes it a little bit

2201
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,198
more accurate. You know, I'd seen

2202
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,799
pictures of him just walking across an

2203
01:16:29,198 --> 01:16:32,639
area and you could tell he was carrying

2204
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,920
something that was fairly long.

2205
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,239
>> Well, not only that, he was walking

2206
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:37,840
around the site with a rangefinder.

2207
01:16:36,238 --> 01:16:39,759
>> Yeah. Oh, and he playing golf.

2208
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,719
>> He'd earlier put a drone up, I think.

2209
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,840
Yeah. So,

2210
01:16:40,719 --> 01:16:43,119
>> if you're not playing golf and you have

2211
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,960
a rangefinder, you're trying to shoot

2212
01:16:43,119 --> 01:16:46,559
something. That's it. That's the only

2213
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,960
two reasons to use a rangefinder. You're

2214
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,159
playing golf, you're doing archery, or

2215
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,679
you're trying to shoot something with a

2216
01:16:50,158 --> 01:16:52,158
rifle, [snorts]

2217
01:16:51,679 --> 01:16:54,239
>> you know,

2218
01:16:52,158 --> 01:16:56,000
>> no other thing. But these guys just keep

2219
01:16:54,238 --> 01:16:57,439
doing this. And I and I know I think

2220
01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:00,079
we're going to have a hearing on that.

2221
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:02,479
Not on that particular case, but just on

2222
01:17:00,079 --> 01:17:04,000
what the CIA is doing and and how they

2223
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:05,359
could do that today.

2224
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,800
>> Well, they most certainly can do that

2225
01:17:05,359 --> 01:17:09,119
today if they could do that in the

2226
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:11,360
1960s. There's a fantastic book called

2227
01:17:09,119 --> 01:17:12,880
Chaos by Tom O'Neal. It's all about the

2228
01:17:11,359 --> 01:17:14,319
Manson family. Have you ever read it?

2229
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:17,039
>> I've seen it. I haven't read it.

2230
01:17:14,319 --> 01:17:18,880
>> It's phenomenal and it's mindblowing.

2231
01:17:17,039 --> 01:17:22,158
You you read it and you and it all

2232
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:24,560
documents Jolly West and the MK Ultra

2233
01:17:22,158 --> 01:17:26,319
program and what they did with Jack Ruby

2234
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,480
and they visited Jack Ruby after he shot

2235
01:17:26,319 --> 01:17:30,559
Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby went

2236
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,238
insane and had a complete psychotic

2237
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:34,800
breakdown and said they're lighting Jews

2238
01:17:32,238 --> 01:17:37,439
on fire and he was like going nuts and

2239
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:40,079
was sane before Ruby vis visited him.

2240
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:42,960
This guy was known to be using LSD on

2241
01:17:40,079 --> 01:17:45,519
people, unknowing people. They uh they

2242
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:48,239
ran Operation Midnight Climax, which is

2243
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:50,640
where the CIA actually ran brothel. They

2244
01:17:48,238 --> 01:17:52,799
had two-way mirrors and they had these

2245
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:55,600
uh supposed prostitutes give these

2246
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:57,440
John's alcohol that had LSD in it and

2247
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,320
then they'd monitor them. They were they

2248
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,479
were doing that with people,

2249
01:17:58,319 --> 01:18:02,079
unsuspecting people, dosing them up,

2250
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:04,238
trying to figure out how and what

2251
01:18:02,079 --> 01:18:05,359
techniques they could use to manipulate

2252
01:18:04,238 --> 01:18:07,198
people and to get people to do things

2253
01:18:05,359 --> 01:18:09,039
they wanted them to do. That's what the

2254
01:18:07,198 --> 01:18:11,198
whole Manson family was all about. And

2255
01:18:09,039 --> 01:18:13,760
what the Manson family that what those

2256
01:18:11,198 --> 01:18:16,479
killings did, the Tate Labianca murders,

2257
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:18,400
what they did was they turned people

2258
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,479
against hippies. Like people had this

2259
01:18:18,399 --> 01:18:22,559
idea of hippies being peace and love and

2260
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,158
like oh it's a new world and everyone's

2261
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:26,560
just going to do acid and hug each other

2262
01:18:24,158 --> 01:18:28,079
and trap out of society.

2263
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,600
>> Then it was all a sudden it became no,

2264
01:18:28,079 --> 01:18:32,158
they're psychotic killers and they're

2265
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:33,600
demonic and you know and this is what we

2266
01:18:32,158 --> 01:18:35,198
have to think about. We need to ban all

2267
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,440
these drugs. And that's what they did.

2268
01:18:35,198 --> 01:18:39,439
And it's kind of fascinating that they

2269
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:41,279
were able to do that and do that for so

2270
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,279
long. And if it wasn't for the Freedom

2271
01:18:41,279 --> 01:18:45,279
of Information Act request and if it

2272
01:18:43,279 --> 01:18:47,119
wasn't for finding those documents that

2273
01:18:45,279 --> 01:18:47,439
they found that were just in storage,

2274
01:18:47,119 --> 01:18:49,039
>> right,

2275
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,238
>> that detailed all this, we wouldn't have

2276
01:18:49,039 --> 01:18:52,079
any knowledge of this stuff.

2277
01:18:50,238 --> 01:18:53,519
>> Most that stuff disappears. You know,

2278
01:18:52,079 --> 01:18:55,760
>> I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff that

2279
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,520
we have. I think this is just the tip of

2280
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,840
the iceberg. There's probably a ton of

2281
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:02,000
those things that have gone on that they

2282
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:03,360
successfully hid and they got sloppy

2283
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,600
with this. And Johnny West seems like he

2284
01:19:03,359 --> 01:19:06,960
was a completely insane person. And you

2285
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,480
know, how could you not be if you were

2286
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,840
like running around dosing people with

2287
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:12,319
acid up with acid? Yeah.

2288
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:14,640
>> Running fake whouses. I mean, it's nuts.

2289
01:19:12,319 --> 01:19:16,079
The whole story is nuts. But the idea

2290
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,199
that they go, "Hey, we shouldn't do that

2291
01:19:16,079 --> 01:19:17,519
anymore."

2292
01:19:17,198 --> 01:19:19,439
>> No.

2293
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,440
>> Even though it was successful, that that

2294
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:23,439
doesn't track that doesn't track with

2295
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,879
how anything works.

2296
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,000
>> That doesn't track with human nature.

2297
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,400
Doesn't track with how the government

2298
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:31,359
works. The idea that they don't have

2299
01:19:28,399 --> 01:19:34,079
people right now. And also how many

2300
01:19:31,359 --> 01:19:36,319
people are voluntarily on psychiatric

2301
01:19:34,079 --> 01:19:39,198
medication that alters them and then

2302
01:19:36,319 --> 01:19:44,238
without any sort of formal program like

2303
01:19:39,198 --> 01:19:47,519
MK Ultra just using bots just using AI

2304
01:19:44,238 --> 01:19:50,959
just using people's algorithm to turn

2305
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:52,960
them radicalize them in certain ways.

2306
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,239
Like of course they're going to do that.

2307
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,399
Of course they're going to try to figure

2308
01:19:54,238 --> 01:19:57,839
out what they can do what they can't how

2309
01:19:56,399 --> 01:19:59,679
they can shift narratives in one

2310
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,560
direction or another. I [snorts] mean,

2311
01:19:59,679 --> 01:20:03,279
that's what they do.

2312
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:05,199
>> And Trump's a a threat to their machine.

2313
01:20:03,279 --> 01:20:06,800
I don't I don't ever think we'll ever

2314
01:20:05,198 --> 01:20:07,919
find the answer to it. I don't think

2315
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,119
we'll ever somebody's going to come

2316
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,760
forward. And

2317
01:20:09,119 --> 01:20:14,559
>> maybe in in our lifetime they might, but

2318
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:16,719
by then everybody will be gone again.

2319
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,320
>> Where's the toxicology examination on

2320
01:20:16,719 --> 01:20:18,719
Thomas Krooks? Let me find out what he

2321
01:20:18,319 --> 01:20:19,920
was on.

2322
01:20:18,719 --> 01:20:21,600
>> Wait a minute. They cremated him.

2323
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:24,560
>> Yeah, they cremated him really quickly.

2324
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:26,880
Not only that, like why was his place

2325
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,719
professionally scrubbed? He didn't even

2326
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:32,719
have silverware in his house. He had no

2327
01:20:28,719 --> 01:20:34,719
computers. He had no social process, no

2328
01:20:32,719 --> 01:20:37,119
internet footprint at all. And then they

2329
01:20:34,719 --> 01:20:38,960
found stuff that led him to believe that

2330
01:20:37,119 --> 01:20:40,880
maybe he had international accounts, but

2331
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:43,119
he doesn't have, you know, just just

2332
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:45,840
constant constant. And it just happens

2333
01:20:43,119 --> 01:20:47,359
over over every course, every time.

2334
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:50,159
>> Not only that, but they documented

2335
01:20:47,359 --> 01:20:52,158
metadata that tracks specific phones

2336
01:20:50,158 --> 01:20:56,158
from the Virginia area out near where

2337
01:20:52,158 --> 01:20:59,519
the FBI area is to his home multiple

2338
01:20:56,158 --> 01:21:02,719
times. Why? He's a kid. He's just a a

2339
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,440
young weirdo kid and someone's visiting

2340
01:21:02,719 --> 01:21:04,319
him.

2341
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,158
>> His over and over again.

2342
01:21:04,319 --> 01:21:08,238
>> His parents were allegedly counselors, I

2343
01:21:06,158 --> 01:21:10,634
think. And and that makes the whole

2344
01:21:08,238 --> 01:21:11,198
thing even that much more mysterious.

2345
01:21:10,635 --> 01:21:13,199
[gasps and sighs]

2346
01:21:11,198 --> 01:21:14,879
>> It's all weird. And we don't have any

2347
01:21:13,198 --> 01:21:16,559
answers and no one's asking questions.

2348
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:18,000
It's like bye-bye, went away.

2349
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,039
>> You ask the questions, you're still not

2350
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,800
going to get the answers,

2351
01:21:19,039 --> 01:21:22,319
>> right? I mean, that will be one of those

2352
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,279
things that 30, 40 years from now,

2353
01:21:22,319 --> 01:21:25,599
people are going to be reading books

2354
01:21:23,279 --> 01:21:27,039
about going what the hell was going on.

2355
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,480
It's like the Kennedy assassination. You

2356
01:21:27,039 --> 01:21:30,940
know, in the Kennedy assassination, we

2357
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:32,319
had a a committee meeting on that and

2358
01:21:30,940 --> 01:21:34,319
[snorts] I asked a question from this

2359
01:21:32,319 --> 01:21:35,519
doctor who was in the

2360
01:21:34,319 --> 01:21:37,679
>> um in the emergency room. He brought

2361
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:40,960
Kennedy in and he he clearly he brought

2362
01:21:37,679 --> 01:21:43,039
he brought a poster in to show that

2363
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:45,920
clearly that the bullets had come from

2364
01:21:43,039 --> 01:21:47,439
two different directions and that was

2365
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,560
and so it had to be two bullets. It

2366
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:51,839
couldn't have been a a very quick

2367
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:54,800
ricochet. Yeah. obviously and um the

2368
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:56,960
whole thing, you know, and no press,

2369
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,800
nobody covered it, nothing. To me, that

2370
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:01,198
was blockbuster news. I thought that

2371
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:03,199
would have been But again, the big boys

2372
01:22:01,198 --> 01:22:04,319
didn't see fit to put that out and that

2373
01:22:03,198 --> 01:22:05,839
and there we are.

2374
01:22:04,319 --> 01:22:08,079
>> Well, just the magic bullet theory

2375
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:10,960
alone, like, shut up. That bullet's

2376
01:22:08,079 --> 01:22:13,039
>> Well, that gun is uh called a Manlaker

2377
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:16,560
carbine. It was I got one actually. It's

2378
01:22:13,039 --> 01:22:19,039
a I think it's 7.62 Italian. It's called

2379
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,480
the only gun that never won a war. You

2380
01:22:19,039 --> 01:22:23,039
could have gone to a Western Auto and

2381
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:24,799
bought an M1 with scopes on it and made

2382
01:22:23,039 --> 01:22:26,158
a much better shot than that thing. I

2383
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:28,000
mean, the whole thing just stinks. And

2384
01:22:26,158 --> 01:22:30,238
the gun they show holding up and the gun

2385
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:32,719
that they had later, you know, the whole

2386
01:22:30,238 --> 01:22:34,158
thing is just screwy. Screwy. And

2387
01:22:32,719 --> 01:22:34,560
because we didn't ask questions back

2388
01:22:34,158 --> 01:22:36,399
then.

2389
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:38,719
>> Yeah. Well, no one had information. So,

2390
01:22:36,399 --> 01:22:40,479
what questions could you even ask? And

2391
01:22:38,719 --> 01:22:43,119
there's a great book on it called Best

2392
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:45,919
Evidence by David Lifton. And he was an

2393
01:22:43,119 --> 01:22:47,760
accountant that was hired to go over the

2394
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:49,679
Warren Commission report. and he started

2395
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,199
finding all these inconsistencies and

2396
01:22:49,679 --> 01:22:53,199
contradictions in the Warren Commission

2397
01:22:51,198 --> 01:22:55,039
report. And so then he wrote this book

2398
01:22:53,198 --> 01:22:56,719
on all the different things that are

2399
01:22:55,039 --> 01:22:58,399
wrong with the Kennedy assassination and

2400
01:22:56,719 --> 01:23:00,639
all the different things that we've been

2401
01:22:58,399 --> 01:23:02,399
told that couldn't possibly be true. And

2402
01:23:00,639 --> 01:23:04,719
it's very disturbing, including how many

2403
01:23:02,399 --> 01:23:07,359
people that were witnesses that died.

2404
01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:09,279
witnesses at the scene in, you know, in

2405
01:23:07,359 --> 01:23:10,960
Dallas that died from weird

2406
01:23:09,279 --> 01:23:13,599
circumstances. And the odds of those

2407
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:16,158
people dying, car accident, suicide,

2408
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,719
murder, robbery, all it's just too

2409
01:23:16,158 --> 01:23:18,479
strange.

2410
01:23:16,719 --> 01:23:19,920
>> And people they can't find anymore that

2411
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,519
were in those pictures,

2412
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,359
>> you know, square.

2413
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,000
>> They cleaned up a lot of the loose ends

2414
01:23:23,359 --> 01:23:24,479
>> quick.

2415
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,000
>> Yeah.

2416
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,279
>> But back then, you know, again, you

2417
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,439
couldn't ask the questions. You didn't

2418
01:23:27,279 --> 01:23:30,719
have the internet. And now it's

2419
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,399
>> But that I think

2420
01:23:30,719 --> 01:23:33,920
>> but nobody's even talking about it. You

2421
01:23:32,399 --> 01:23:37,519
can't get anybody to bring up anything

2422
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:40,158
on Trump getting shot or other than they

2423
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:42,400
put out it's a fake. You know, it's his

2424
01:23:40,158 --> 01:23:42,719
ear healed itself and all this stuff. I

2425
01:23:42,399 --> 01:23:44,960
you know,

2426
01:23:42,719 --> 01:23:46,399
>> listen, his ear was clearly bleeding. He

2427
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,399
got shot in the ear. You can see the

2428
01:23:46,399 --> 01:23:50,399
blood come out right away. It's dripping

2429
01:23:48,399 --> 01:23:52,719
down the side of his face. And the the

2430
01:23:50,399 --> 01:23:54,158
idea that that's a setup, you cannot be

2431
01:23:52,719 --> 01:23:55,920
that accurate. You definitely can't be

2432
01:23:54,158 --> 01:23:57,839
that accurate with a red dot at 140

2433
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:59,359
yards. You can hit him. You could

2434
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,199
definitely hit him center mass, no

2435
01:23:59,359 --> 01:24:02,399
problem. Maybe even you hit him in the

2436
01:24:01,198 --> 01:24:04,638
head if you're really good and you're

2437
01:24:02,399 --> 01:24:06,399
prone. But the nicking his ear like that

2438
01:24:04,639 --> 01:24:08,480
on purpose and to be there and say,

2439
01:24:06,399 --> 01:24:10,559
"Hey, I just want you to nick my ear

2440
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:12,799
just a little piece like that's there's

2441
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,800
no off the top. There's not a chance

2442
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:16,400
that that's a fake." And the guy behind

2443
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,920
him's dead. So what are you saying? You

2444
01:24:16,399 --> 01:24:19,599
think that's fake? That's a setup.

2445
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:21,600
>> Yeah. The fireman lost his life.

2446
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:24,239
>> Yeah. That's crazy. The whole thing's

2447
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:26,000
crazy. But it's just this thing where

2448
01:24:24,238 --> 01:24:28,479
people hate him so much and the

2449
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,920
narrative in the media, this Trump

2450
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:32,158
derangement narrative that you see in

2451
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:33,760
the media is so strong and people are so

2452
01:24:32,158 --> 01:24:36,960
programmed by it. And

2453
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:39,039
>> for the average person that has a a very

2454
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,560
involved job, you're working all day and

2455
01:24:39,039 --> 01:24:42,158
then you have a family and you have a

2456
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,159
life and you have been you don't have

2457
01:24:42,158 --> 01:24:46,719
time to really go into depth about

2458
01:24:44,158 --> 01:24:48,638
what's real and what's not real. And you

2459
01:24:46,719 --> 01:24:50,639
got that Russia collusion stuff shoved

2460
01:24:48,639 --> 01:24:52,319
down your throat by mainstream media for

2461
01:24:50,639 --> 01:24:52,800
years and you believe all of it

2462
01:24:52,319 --> 01:24:55,039
>> 100%.

2463
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,960
>> And so you really believed he's a

2464
01:24:55,039 --> 01:24:58,639
terrible person, Russian agent, all

2465
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,119
these different. So you want someone to

2466
01:24:58,639 --> 01:25:01,119
kill him.

2467
01:24:59,119 --> 01:25:02,479
>> Yeah. There's there's a group of folks,

2468
01:25:01,119 --> 01:25:03,679
young folks that are starting to ask

2469
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,359
some questions. Yes.

2470
01:25:03,679 --> 01:25:08,158
>> You [clears throat] know, my wife's son

2471
01:25:05,359 --> 01:25:11,759
Tyler um he lives on the farm there with

2472
01:25:08,158 --> 01:25:14,158
us and he um he's been asking me

2473
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,679
inquisitive questions because because of

2474
01:25:14,158 --> 01:25:17,119
he doesn't buy it. And a lot of those

2475
01:25:15,679 --> 01:25:18,319
kids in that generation, I'm glad. I

2476
01:25:17,119 --> 01:25:19,519
don't know if it's the Charlie Kirk

2477
01:25:18,319 --> 01:25:21,279
effect. I don't know what that is.

2478
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:22,320
>> That has a that's a has a definitely

2479
01:25:21,279 --> 01:25:24,000
effect on it because a lot of people

2480
01:25:22,319 --> 01:25:25,840
don't buy that story either. No. But

2481
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,840
it's also the internet. The internet has

2482
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:30,000
there's enough independent reporters out

2483
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,600
there that are untied independent

2484
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,279
journalists that are untied to any

2485
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,120
organization that has a narrative

2486
01:25:33,279 --> 01:25:37,119
they're supposed to push and they're

2487
01:25:35,119 --> 01:25:37,679
uncovering real information. That's

2488
01:25:37,119 --> 01:25:38,000
screwy,

2489
01:25:37,679 --> 01:25:40,079
>> right?

2490
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:42,238
>> It doesn't make any sense. Well, and

2491
01:25:40,079 --> 01:25:44,158
also when they do though, they get they

2492
01:25:42,238 --> 01:25:46,000
get trounced upon by the so-called

2493
01:25:44,158 --> 01:25:48,000
mainstream media, of course. And but

2494
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:51,198
their numbers, I mean, my gosh, I read

2495
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:52,880
somewhere the the amount of uh that the

2496
01:25:51,198 --> 01:25:54,079
amount of media or the amount of

2497
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:56,000
information people get from the

2498
01:25:54,079 --> 01:25:56,719
mainstream media is is just it's

2499
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,520
diminishing.

2500
01:25:56,719 --> 01:26:01,119
>> Well, CO sunk them. The way they handled

2501
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,639
CO and the way they carried water for

2502
01:26:01,119 --> 01:26:04,238
the pharmaceutical drug industry.

2503
01:26:02,639 --> 01:26:06,000
>> Oh, And Fouchy

2504
01:26:04,238 --> 01:26:06,559
>> and the Yeah. Fouchy. And now he's going

2505
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:07,840
to walk.

2506
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,600
>> Is he going to walk? because there's

2507
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,199
some talk about him possibly being set

2508
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,679
up for perjury, but there's only a week

2509
01:26:11,198 --> 01:26:13,439
to go.

2510
01:26:11,679 --> 01:26:15,199
>> Yeah, there's a week to go. I just don't

2511
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,238
He'll get a stern letter from somebody

2512
01:26:15,198 --> 01:26:16,799
in Washington.

2513
01:26:16,238 --> 01:26:18,959
>> Oh,

2514
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:20,880
>> that drives me crazy, man. I saw, you

2515
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:23,198
know, the big boys, you go down to the

2516
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,560
the big hardware chain and they were

2517
01:26:23,198 --> 01:26:26,000
allowing people to go in, but they

2518
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,440
closed down the little local ones and

2519
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,520
they closed the churches and the

2520
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:31,439
synagogues and everybody down

2521
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:32,560
>> and then we just all got in line. They

2522
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:34,479
just rang the bell and we're like

2523
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,760
Pavlov's dog and we just all got in

2524
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,678
line. And I remember at my hospital in

2525
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,679
Knoxville, one of them, I came out there

2526
01:26:37,679 --> 01:26:41,520
and, you know, to get tested. I got

2527
01:26:39,679 --> 01:26:43,119
tested. I can't tell how many times I

2528
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,560
got tested. I never tested positive.

2529
01:26:43,119 --> 01:26:45,920
I've never took the vaccine or any of

2530
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:48,719
that. But I can remember coming out

2531
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:51,279
there and they had these um morgs they

2532
01:26:48,719 --> 01:26:53,279
were setting up just in anticipation of

2533
01:26:51,279 --> 01:26:55,840
of what And I just [snorts] thought,

2534
01:26:53,279 --> 01:26:57,679
man, this is if this doesn't work out,

2535
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,199
this is the ultimate scop because people

2536
01:26:57,679 --> 01:27:01,440
are going to get rich off this crazy

2537
01:26:59,198 --> 01:27:02,719
thing. And they did. You know, we um

2538
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:05,519
>> greatest transfer of wealth.

2539
01:27:02,719 --> 01:27:07,439
>> Unbelievably. Unbelievably. Yeah. And

2540
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,719
Congress just did it. We just did it and

2541
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,919
didn't ask any questions.

2542
01:27:08,719 --> 01:27:11,840
>> Well, it seems like there's a real

2543
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,520
pandemic right now on this cruise ship.

2544
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,800
You know, about that henta virus. Yeah.

2545
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:17,199
That seems really crazy.

2546
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:19,440
>> And and ticks. Watch that thing.

2547
01:27:17,198 --> 01:27:20,879
>> The tick thing is nuts. Yeah. Especially

2548
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,919
>> because of meat, because of gates.

2549
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:24,079
>> Uhhuh. Um,

2550
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:25,679
>> well, there's boxes people are finding,

2551
01:27:24,079 --> 01:27:27,359
and I don't know if this is true because

2552
01:27:25,679 --> 01:27:28,960
I've seen many reports on it, but I'm

2553
01:27:27,359 --> 01:27:31,279
just going to say what I saw, that

2554
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:34,480
farmers and ranchers are finding boxes

2555
01:27:31,279 --> 01:27:36,479
of ticks on their property. Now, I don't

2556
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:38,238
know if that's fake. I don't know if

2557
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,238
someone's setting that up to pretend

2558
01:27:38,238 --> 01:27:43,039
they found these boxes of ticks, but

2559
01:27:40,238 --> 01:27:45,678
there's videos of these people finding

2560
01:27:43,039 --> 01:27:47,439
boxes of ticks. Now, what they'll say is

2561
01:27:45,679 --> 01:27:49,760
they'll probably say they're sterile

2562
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:51,839
ticks and that we're planting them out

2563
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:53,520
there so we can diminish the population

2564
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:55,520
is what they'll say. But anytime they

2565
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,560
try to mess with the balance of nature,

2566
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,480
it never goes right.

2567
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:00,239
>> Is that what they're saying? This is

2568
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,759
getting ready. That's I'm getting You're

2569
01:28:00,238 --> 01:28:03,678
getting it right here.

2570
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:05,440
>> I don't believe you have a right to go

2571
01:28:03,679 --> 01:28:06,560
to someone's property and drop off

2572
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,439
sterile ticks.

2573
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,920
>> No way in hell.

2574
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:12,000
>> That's crazy either way. But I have a

2575
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:14,079
good friend of mine who got bit by the

2576
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,560
Lonear tick and has that alpha gal

2577
01:28:14,079 --> 01:28:16,000
problem.

2578
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,679
>> Yeah. A kid, a guy came out my house

2579
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,760
yesterday looking at putting gutters up

2580
01:28:17,679 --> 01:28:21,199
at our house and dad got me. He said and

2581
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:23,600
I said, "You did what?" He goes, "Yeah,

2582
01:28:21,198 --> 01:28:24,479
I can't eat anything any meat produced

2583
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:24,800
by a mammal."

2584
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:25,198
>> Yes.

2585
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:29,279
>> I was like,

2586
01:28:25,198 --> 01:28:31,759
>> "Yeah." So my buddy, he had it and my

2587
01:28:29,279 --> 01:28:33,599
friend Evan, so he he had it for a

2588
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,520
little while and then he did a bunch of

2589
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:37,760
treatments and got off of it and then

2590
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:39,520
started eating steak again and he was

2591
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:41,520
fine for about a year and a half and

2592
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:44,159
then it came back stronger than ever and

2593
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:46,000
he just can't shake it around.

2594
01:28:44,158 --> 01:28:47,119
>> Oh yeah. He can only eat eggs. I mean,

2595
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,880
he's basically eating eggs and

2596
01:28:47,119 --> 01:28:50,639
vegetables. That's all he's eating. And

2597
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,639
every time he tries to deviate, he has a

2598
01:28:50,639 --> 01:28:53,760
horrible reaction. It it makes for

2599
01:28:52,639 --> 01:28:55,359
people that don't know, it makes your

2600
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:58,000
body allergic to red meat,

2601
01:28:55,359 --> 01:28:58,719
>> right? And who has got genetically made

2602
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,520
meat now?

2603
01:28:58,719 --> 01:29:00,158
>> Yeah. Bill Gates.

2604
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,760
>> Bill Gates.

2605
01:29:00,158 --> 01:29:03,279
>> Yeah. Well, they're doing things with

2606
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,840
mosquitoes and they're doing they're

2607
01:29:03,279 --> 01:29:07,279
they're messing around with nature in a

2608
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:09,199
way that no one's giving you permission

2609
01:29:07,279 --> 01:29:10,639
to. The general public does not want you

2610
01:29:09,198 --> 01:29:12,638
doing this. If they could vote on it,

2611
01:29:10,639 --> 01:29:14,560
they'd say, "No way. You You can't."

2612
01:29:12,639 --> 01:29:16,800
>> It's like those those beagles that they

2613
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:18,639
show that Fouchy uh I grew up with

2614
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:21,520
beagles. Sport number one, sport number

2615
01:29:18,639 --> 01:29:25,520
two. dogs. They are the best dogs ever.

2616
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:27,360
And um my Buzz was um he's cavalier mix,

2617
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:29,600
but he was we think I'm not really sure,

2618
01:29:27,359 --> 01:29:31,279
but he was a rescue dog. And that poor

2619
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:33,039
thing had never been on grass. And I see

2620
01:29:31,279 --> 01:29:36,158
those dogs acting just like poor Buzz.

2621
01:29:33,039 --> 01:29:38,639
He couldn't climb stairs and he was

2622
01:29:36,158 --> 01:29:40,799
mistreated. He can't hear very well. And

2623
01:29:38,639 --> 01:29:43,440
um he's the sweetest dad gum dog though.

2624
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:45,199
And those freaking beagles. I just that

2625
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:46,879
rips my heart out because there's right

2626
01:29:45,198 --> 01:29:48,638
now I've talked to the scientists in the

2627
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:51,600
labs and there's everything we can do

2628
01:29:48,639 --> 01:29:52,159
now we can do in the lab without pretty

2629
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:52,880
much without

2630
01:29:52,158 --> 01:29:54,638
>> without cruelty

2631
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:56,239
>> without cruelty without

2632
01:29:54,639 --> 01:29:59,119
>> you know bringing in beagles and why

2633
01:29:56,238 --> 01:29:59,599
beagles the whole thing just stinks

2634
01:29:59,119 --> 01:30:01,679
disgusting

2635
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,600
>> it's very evil I mean look I don't even

2636
01:30:01,679 --> 01:30:06,239
like it when they do it with rats

2637
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:08,320
>> but doing it with puppies is insane and

2638
01:30:06,238 --> 01:30:10,879
then euthanizing them after you've

2639
01:30:08,319 --> 01:30:13,198
forced them to be

2640
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:16,000
it's horrible Yeah, he did some evil

2641
01:30:13,198 --> 01:30:17,678
stuff. He's And he lied like clearly

2642
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:19,359
lied. Lied to the American people about

2643
01:30:17,679 --> 01:30:21,679
transmission. Lied to the American

2644
01:30:19,359 --> 01:30:23,039
people about preventing infection.

2645
01:30:21,679 --> 01:30:23,920
>> I can remember when they brought him to

2646
01:30:23,039 --> 01:30:26,560
Congress

2647
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:27,840
>> and um brought him into a meeting I was

2648
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,960
in and I was in the back and he's a

2649
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,800
little short guy and I was like, "Who

2650
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:32,319
the heck is that?" He said, "That's

2651
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:34,960
Fouchy." And they brought him in and

2652
01:30:32,319 --> 01:30:36,559
everybody started cheering. I thought I

2653
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:39,039
thought I thought I had a bad vibe on

2654
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:40,800
him then. And then um he talked to gay

2655
01:30:39,039 --> 01:30:42,238
folks, you know, he was involved in the

2656
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:42,800
>> the a DT.

2657
01:30:42,238 --> 01:30:45,759
>> Yeah.

2658
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,560
>> And u they they got a bad feeling

2659
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,320
towards him.

2660
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,400
>> Sure. I mean he's the culprit. He's the

2661
01:30:48,319 --> 01:30:51,119
villain in that movie, The Dallas Buyers

2662
01:30:50,399 --> 01:30:52,960
Club.

2663
01:30:51,119 --> 01:30:54,559
>> That's about him preventing people from

2664
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:55,520
taking alternative medications. That

2665
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,440
sound familiar?

2666
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,760
>> Yeah. Exactly what they did during Right

2667
01:30:57,439 --> 01:31:02,000
now we're doing it. I was um I was in

2668
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,760
Blunt County yesterday for a police

2669
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:05,760
officer's memorial service and an

2670
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:08,159
officer came up and said, you know, my

2671
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:10,800
my child is suffers from a rare disease

2672
01:31:08,158 --> 01:31:13,519
and and we can't get to this treatment

2673
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:15,840
and can you can you put a bug in the

2674
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:18,320
present? I sure you know, we'll try. But

2675
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:21,279
and Trump's doing that a lot now with

2676
01:31:18,319 --> 01:31:22,799
and RFK Yeah. RFK Jr. people they

2677
01:31:21,279 --> 01:31:27,359
they'll try to trash him and that's

2678
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:29,039
fine. He's a tough guy. But um he um a

2679
01:31:27,359 --> 01:31:31,759
lot of those trials now are going

2680
01:31:29,039 --> 01:31:33,198
forward. Cancer and other things and and

2681
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:35,440
that's another reason they don't like

2682
01:31:33,198 --> 01:31:38,479
Trump. Man, you talk about I mean you

2683
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:40,399
got big pharma, you got big agriculture

2684
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:42,638
and um

2685
01:31:40,399 --> 01:31:44,719
>> you and a couple others and they they

2686
01:31:42,639 --> 01:31:47,199
run the they run the table, Joe. They

2687
01:31:44,719 --> 01:31:50,079
run the table and they I told somebody,

2688
01:31:47,198 --> 01:31:52,399
you know, and of course big energy oil,

2689
01:31:50,079 --> 01:31:55,039
you know, we get zero. I know it's a

2690
01:31:52,399 --> 01:31:57,039
commodity and I'm going to get lit up

2691
01:31:55,039 --> 01:32:00,079
that oil's a commodity and it, you know,

2692
01:31:57,039 --> 01:32:04,238
the world market, but we get zero oil

2693
01:32:00,079 --> 01:32:06,559
from Iran. Zero. We we export oil right

2694
01:32:04,238 --> 01:32:07,678
now and yet the price is going through

2695
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:10,480
the roof. It's going through the roof

2696
01:32:07,679 --> 01:32:13,600
because it can. They can. And I always

2697
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:16,559
say, well, how does that gasoline in the

2698
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:17,920
pumps go up that's been in the they've

2699
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,520
already been processed, already been

2700
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:21,520
paid for. How does it go up

2701
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:23,679
exponentially just overnight? 20 cents a

2702
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:25,280
gallon or whatever. And how does that

2703
01:32:23,679 --> 01:32:26,639
and and if that's because it's a

2704
01:32:25,279 --> 01:32:29,119
commodity and birch that you don't

2705
01:32:26,639 --> 01:32:31,199
understand, how come that quart of oil

2706
01:32:29,119 --> 01:32:33,599
that you at the hardware store doesn't

2707
01:32:31,198 --> 01:32:35,599
go up like that? Wouldn't it it's

2708
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:39,039
processed oil. Wouldn't it do the same?

2709
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:41,440
And of course diesel. It's your first

2710
01:32:39,039 --> 01:32:43,519
cut I think is kerosene. Then it's

2711
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:46,000
diesel. And diesel and I've got a diesel

2712
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:48,480
dy. I filled it up yesterday is over

2713
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:50,399
$100. You know, it is the cheapest. It

2714
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:53,519
is the roughest cut. You know, that's

2715
01:32:50,399 --> 01:32:56,799
why you have these credible filters

2716
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:58,880
because it's dirty and gasoline is the

2717
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:01,920
third or fourth cut and it ought to be

2718
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:03,679
the most expensive, but it's not. I just

2719
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:05,840
think it's a racket. And every time they

2720
01:33:03,679 --> 01:33:08,399
they'll hold the hearings and they'll

2721
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:10,319
come down there and and you know, and

2722
01:33:08,399 --> 01:33:12,000
the oil companies will, you know,

2723
01:33:10,319 --> 01:33:13,840
they'll shake that money tree. They know

2724
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:15,439
how to do it on both sides of the aisle.

2725
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:17,760
>> It happens all the time. I remember when

2726
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:20,000
Bush was leaving office before Obama

2727
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:22,880
took office where gasoline just went

2728
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:24,479
through the through the roof. The p

2729
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,520
everybody was freaking out and no one

2730
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,839
could explain it

2731
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:30,000
>> and it was just I was like look they can

2732
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:31,840
this is like the last chance they can to

2733
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,679
just jack up the prices, jack up the

2734
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:35,039
profits, hold everybody hostage. You

2735
01:33:33,679 --> 01:33:35,440
have to get gas. You got to drive to

2736
01:33:35,039 --> 01:33:36,960
work.

2737
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:39,279
>> Got an oil man in the White House.

2738
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:41,920
>> Yeah. And they just jacked it up.

2739
01:33:39,279 --> 01:33:43,359
>> It's payoff time. I just uh

2740
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:45,039
>> and is and you know and I'm a

2741
01:33:43,359 --> 01:33:47,119
capitalist. I'm a heartless capitalist.

2742
01:33:45,039 --> 01:33:48,238
I make skateboards. Um, and

2743
01:33:47,119 --> 01:33:49,519
>> you make skateboards?

2744
01:33:48,238 --> 01:33:51,098
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's cheaper than a

2745
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:52,080
psychiatrist.

2746
01:33:51,099 --> 01:33:53,760
[laughter]

2747
01:33:52,079 --> 01:33:55,519
I go I guess I'm a little bit like

2748
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,880
Trump. I like ketchup on my steak.

2749
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,880
Although I think he gets his well done.

2750
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,079
I get mine medium rare. But um

2751
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:00,719
>> you put ketchup on your steak. You

2752
01:34:00,079 --> 01:34:02,319
should go to jail.

2753
01:34:00,719 --> 01:34:02,560
>> Does the Baptist church got a bus?

2754
01:34:02,319 --> 01:34:04,079
Terrible.

2755
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:06,000
>> Yes, they do. And yes, I do. Terrible.

2756
01:34:04,079 --> 01:34:08,783
Any No, I make skateboards. So, I make

2757
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:10,639
this crazy skateboard for um for um

2758
01:34:08,783 --> 01:34:12,799
[snorts] Tulsi Gabbard. She's a buddy of

2759
01:34:10,639 --> 01:34:13,440
mine. She's She's She's kind of a

2760
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,039
>> I love her.

2761
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:17,599
>> I love her, too. She is wonderful. And

2762
01:34:15,039 --> 01:34:18,079
she's from Hawaii. So, in Trump's first

2763
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,520
Oh, that's

2764
01:34:18,079 --> 01:34:20,079
>> There it is. Okay. I made that

2765
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,040
skateboard.

2766
01:34:20,079 --> 01:34:22,800
>> Bigfoot skateboard.

2767
01:34:21,039 --> 01:34:25,679
>> Yeah. I put my sticker on it. It's made

2768
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,880
out of bamboo, oak, and banana fibers

2769
01:34:25,679 --> 01:34:27,359
off the banana plant.

2770
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:30,960
>> Oh, wow.

2771
01:34:27,359 --> 01:34:33,198
>> And um and she she outs me during the um

2772
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:34,639
Trump's first. There's my guys at Pluto

2773
01:34:33,198 --> 01:34:36,319
Sports. They put my wheels and trucks

2774
01:34:34,639 --> 01:34:38,880
on. It's just a they're guys I was in

2775
01:34:36,319 --> 01:34:39,359
high school with. Um but anyway,

2776
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:41,679
>> skate.

2777
01:34:39,359 --> 01:34:42,880
>> Yeah. Oh, yeah. But I don't do the fancy

2778
01:34:41,679 --> 01:34:44,960
stuff. I just do tricks.

2779
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,800
>> And not anymore. I'm 61, dude. I don't

2780
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,600
heal like I did when I was 51, much less

2781
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,119
when I was a young man.

2782
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:51,039
>> You're only a few years older than me.

2783
01:34:49,119 --> 01:34:51,519
>> Well, you look good.

2784
01:34:51,039 --> 01:34:53,198
>> Thank you.

2785
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,880
>> Sorry, man. I'm just, you know, people

2786
01:34:53,198 --> 01:34:56,799
think I'm on steroids, but I'm naturally

2787
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:59,760
this huge. But [laughter]

2788
01:34:56,800 --> 01:35:01,840
so, so she Tulsy says, "Purch it." I

2789
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,880
said, "Hey, Tulsy." She says, and she's

2790
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,560
walking in here to the State of the

2791
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:06,239
Union, cameras, people are in. Where's

2792
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:08,400
my dad gum skateboard? My birthday's

2793
01:35:06,238 --> 01:35:10,238
next month. I'm like, "Oh, crap." So I

2794
01:35:08,399 --> 01:35:12,238
make her this skateboard, right? And

2795
01:35:10,238 --> 01:35:13,678
that picture comes out and I mean people

2796
01:35:12,238 --> 01:35:15,039
all over the world are saying, "Where

2797
01:35:13,679 --> 01:35:18,319
can I get a birchet board? Where can I

2798
01:35:15,039 --> 01:35:20,158
get a birchet board?" So I'm Mr., you

2799
01:35:18,319 --> 01:35:23,599
know, I'm trying to be ethical and you

2800
01:35:20,158 --> 01:35:25,198
know, and uh I I go down to see the

2801
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,719
ethics guy and this little attorney

2802
01:35:25,198 --> 01:35:28,960
tells me, he says, "Well, Congressman,

2803
01:35:26,719 --> 01:35:30,560
you know, you got to you can't do that.

2804
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,760
You can't call it a Burchet board. You

2805
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:33,920
can't you know." I said, "Well, my

2806
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:36,239
wife's got to own the company." And they

2807
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:38,399
think, "Well, maybe." And then you but

2808
01:35:36,238 --> 01:35:39,759
you can't work there and all this other

2809
01:35:38,399 --> 01:35:41,679
stuff. And you know everybody down

2810
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:43,520
there's got a side hustle, right? And

2811
01:35:41,679 --> 01:35:45,440
I've said, "Dude, so you're telling me I

2812
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:47,040
can do insider stock trading, but I

2813
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:49,678
can't sell a dad gum skateboard." And

2814
01:35:47,039 --> 01:35:52,639
the guy said, "That's correct." So

2815
01:35:49,679 --> 01:35:54,560
anyway, I got about 35 skateboards in my

2816
01:35:52,639 --> 01:35:55,440
barn. I just keep making them. And I

2817
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:56,320
call my attorney.

2818
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,599
>> You make them yourself?

2819
01:35:56,319 --> 01:35:58,639
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I say it's

2820
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:59,679
cheaper than a psychiatrist.

2821
01:35:58,639 --> 01:36:02,400
>> So you make them by hand?

2822
01:35:59,679 --> 01:36:03,199
>> Yeah, absolutely. You know, I have um

2823
01:36:02,399 --> 01:36:05,599
>> That's pretty cool.

2824
01:36:03,198 --> 01:36:08,799
>> I make them. I'm cheap, but so I make

2825
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:10,239
them out of uh bamboo that I cut. Uh

2826
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,760
buddy of mine, Chris Pointer's got a

2827
01:36:10,238 --> 01:36:13,198
bunch at his house, but I I go to the

2828
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,320
synagogue behind the synagogue on

2829
01:36:13,198 --> 01:36:15,759
Kingston Pike. There's a bunch of

2830
01:36:14,319 --> 01:36:16,960
bamboo, and they used to let me cut it.

2831
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:19,920
Now, when this airs, they probably

2832
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:22,800
won't, but um [laughter] and then I I

2833
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:24,399
get oak pallets and um and banana

2834
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,440
fibers. They grow off the banana plant.

2835
01:36:24,399 --> 01:36:26,879
So, but anyway, I grow.

2836
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,960
>> Did you laminate it all?

2837
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:30,319
>> Yeah. Well, I used fiberglass with that

2838
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:32,079
and I'm trying to get away from the

2839
01:36:30,319 --> 01:36:34,559
carcinogens, you know, the cancer

2840
01:36:32,079 --> 01:36:37,119
causing. So, um, I use a Titebond 3

2841
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:38,960
glue. It's waterproof and water-based.

2842
01:36:37,119 --> 01:36:40,880
And then, um, and then I just sand them

2843
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:42,239
all down and cuz, you know, you scuff

2844
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:45,039
them up after you ride them around.

2845
01:36:42,238 --> 01:36:47,839
Anyway, so anyway, so I make them out of

2846
01:36:45,039 --> 01:36:50,399
that and I laminate the wood and, um, my

2847
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,920
local the steel laborers, um, they

2848
01:36:50,399 --> 01:36:54,719
needed a project one year when I was

2849
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:56,079
mayor of Knox County and I and somebody

2850
01:36:54,719 --> 01:36:58,158
said, "Hey, they want to these guys want

2851
01:36:56,079 --> 01:36:59,760
to make a a skateboard press." They

2852
01:36:58,158 --> 01:37:01,599
said, "Do you want one?" I said, "Yeah,

2853
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,800
I'll buy the metal." And I'm thinking,

2854
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:04,400
you know, they're going to build me this

2855
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:07,600
little thing. No, I mean, it's like

2856
01:37:04,399 --> 01:37:09,039
three burly union metal workers have to

2857
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:11,760
put this thing in the back of my dad gum

2858
01:37:09,039 --> 01:37:14,479
pickup truck. It is a monster. And it um

2859
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:16,400
and I can press them, but um and I've

2860
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:16,959
got clamps and I do all of it. But

2861
01:37:16,399 --> 01:37:17,920
anyway,

2862
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:20,000
>> that's pretty cool.

2863
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:22,079
>> Yeah. But but I can't but I can't sell

2864
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:23,359
them. I got My wife's like,

2865
01:37:22,079 --> 01:37:24,479
>> "What are you doing out there?" And I

2866
01:37:23,359 --> 01:37:25,759
said, "Well, come out there and look at

2867
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:27,678
my boards, honey. I'm making

2868
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,320
skateboards." And I'm saying I And she

2869
01:37:27,679 --> 01:37:30,719
always

2870
01:37:28,319 --> 01:37:32,799
>> get you out there. That's one I That was

2871
01:37:30,719 --> 01:37:34,399
just one I laminated up, but um or it's

2872
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:36,560
side laminated. But

2873
01:37:34,399 --> 01:37:38,879
>> my wife always says, "Honey, you go to

2874
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:40,719
it." She says, "I'm sure they laughed at

2875
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:42,639
the guy that created the pool noodle."

2876
01:37:40,719 --> 01:37:44,560
That's her line. Always [laughter]

2877
01:37:42,639 --> 01:37:46,159
>> probably Kelly said, "Oh, yeah. Yeah, it

2878
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,520
was just a piece of insulation off some

2879
01:37:46,158 --> 01:37:48,960
old rental house and he threw it in the

2880
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:51,119
his kids were swimming with it and he

2881
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:52,800
thought, man, I'm going to take that 12

2882
01:37:51,118 --> 01:37:54,479
cent piece of foam, take it to Walmart

2883
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,679
and sell it for $6 a piece." And now

2884
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:57,759
he's probably sitting on some island

2885
01:37:55,679 --> 01:38:01,600
somewhere laughing at us right now. But

2886
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:03,440
no, I make them and I've been trying to.

2887
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:06,000
Anyway, it's very frustrating. I got a

2888
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:07,919
meeting with the attorneys um and the

2889
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:09,359
chairman of the ethics committee who is

2890
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:10,960
a really good guy. He and I came to

2891
01:38:09,359 --> 01:38:12,079
Congress together and we're trying to

2892
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,359
work it out. So,

2893
01:38:12,079 --> 01:38:16,079
>> it's not even that it's a lot of money

2894
01:38:13,359 --> 01:38:17,599
in handmade skateboards. Like, the fact

2895
01:38:16,079 --> 01:38:19,920
that you could have insider trading, you

2896
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,719
can't sell handmade skateboards is

2897
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:21,920
>> that's ridiculous.

2898
01:38:20,719 --> 01:38:24,319
>> A little ridiculous, isn't it?

2899
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:25,840
>> It's also it's like what what because

2900
01:38:24,319 --> 01:38:28,238
you're famous? Because you're on

2901
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:29,600
television like is gonna Yeah. They're

2902
01:38:28,238 --> 01:38:31,919
gonna sway my vote because they bought a

2903
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:34,560
dad gum skateboard from me. Yeah. I I

2904
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:36,800
took one to an auction and and um and I

2905
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:37,440
think somebody paid $5,200 for one of

2906
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:38,159
those decades.

2907
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:39,839
>> Whoa.

2908
01:38:38,158 --> 01:38:41,519
>> And then some other guy comes up and

2909
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:43,600
says, "Tim, I was at the bar and I

2910
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:45,440
missed it. If I give them 5200, will you

2911
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:48,880
make me one?" So, I got a couple and

2912
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:52,079
then my friends in Clayurn County um the

2913
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:53,600
uh the mountains up there, they um they

2914
01:38:52,079 --> 01:38:55,519
uh they chair the committee and they

2915
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:57,119
asked me and some I thought I was making

2916
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,960
one and then when I got out of there I

2917
01:38:57,118 --> 01:39:00,880
was making three. So, I don't know. And

2918
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:02,158
then I people just like them and they

2919
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:02,960
put them on their wall. I mean, you

2920
01:39:02,158 --> 01:39:04,638
know, you're not going to be in the

2921
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:06,000
Olympics with Tony Hawk's not going to

2922
01:39:04,639 --> 01:39:08,560
go, "Hey, Tim Burchie, will you make me

2923
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:10,399
a board?" You know, but it's it's just

2924
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:11,280
for cruising down the sidewalk kind of

2925
01:39:10,399 --> 01:39:13,359
thing.

2926
01:39:11,279 --> 01:39:14,559
>> That's awesome. That's awesome. It sucks

2927
01:39:13,359 --> 01:39:14,799
that they won't let you sell it though.

2928
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:16,400
That's

2929
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:18,079
>> Yeah,

2930
01:39:16,399 --> 01:39:19,759
you sell your soul, but I can't sell a

2931
01:39:18,079 --> 01:39:21,600
skateboard.

2932
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:24,079
>> Speaking of selling, um, you were

2933
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:25,679
telling me earlier before we started,

2934
01:39:24,079 --> 01:39:26,559
and I said, "Save this because I want to

2935
01:39:25,679 --> 01:39:26,880
talk about this later."

2936
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:29,600
>> Yeah.

2937
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:30,560
>> That the Taliban gets how many millions

2938
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:34,079
of dollars a week?

2939
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:38,960
>> About $40 million a week. Um,

2940
01:39:34,079 --> 01:39:40,800
it all happened. I was on a um a

2941
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:44,560
podcast and they were talking about it

2942
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:45,119
and um Sean Ryan and he had he I love

2943
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:48,000
that dude.

2944
01:39:45,118 --> 01:39:49,679
>> Yeah. Great American. I love him. He's

2945
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:51,198
>> he's a good Christian man. He's been

2946
01:39:49,679 --> 01:39:54,079
through it. You know, he's an incredible

2947
01:39:51,198 --> 01:39:55,279
guy that they've asked to do horrible

2948
01:39:54,079 --> 01:39:57,118
things.

2949
01:39:55,279 --> 01:39:59,118
>> And people like that, I give them a wide

2950
01:39:57,118 --> 01:40:01,599
path. I let them slide on a lot of

2951
01:39:59,118 --> 01:40:04,639
things. But he's he's a good daddy and

2952
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:06,159
and um you know he just and he he he

2953
01:40:04,639 --> 01:40:07,679
worries about our country. He reminds me

2954
01:40:06,158 --> 01:40:10,479
a lot of my dad because dad was you

2955
01:40:07,679 --> 01:40:12,560
couldn't wake my dad up um to the day he

2956
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:14,879
died over the top of him always by his

2957
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:17,119
big toe cuz he cuz he might wake up on

2958
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:19,600
one of those islands and pin me against

2959
01:40:17,118 --> 01:40:21,198
the wall. His marine on Peloo and

2960
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:22,880
Okinawa and

2961
01:40:21,198 --> 01:40:24,638
>> daddy's colonel was a guy named Chesty

2962
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:26,400
Puller. Colonel Puller you can look him

2963
01:40:24,639 --> 01:40:30,719
up. He was a Marine Corps legend, but

2964
01:40:26,399 --> 01:40:33,439
and my daddy loved him. But um anyway,

2965
01:40:30,719 --> 01:40:35,198
the um I'm I'm on this podcast with

2966
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:37,439
Shawn and he says, "Hey, I want you to

2967
01:40:35,198 --> 01:40:38,960
introduce Eli Crane. He's a He's a

2968
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:40,960
excuse me, Navy Seal in Congress." He

2969
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:42,239
said, "I want you to go on this podcast

2970
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:44,560
with Shawn Ryan." I said, "I don't know

2971
01:40:42,238 --> 01:40:46,638
who Shawn Ryan is. I don't I'm not a

2972
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:48,159
podcast guy. I don't My daughter always

2973
01:40:46,639 --> 01:40:49,199
give me your phone. I don't know how to

2974
01:40:48,158 --> 01:40:50,559
do it." And all of a sudden, I got a

2975
01:40:49,198 --> 01:40:53,359
cool picture of her on there. I don't

2976
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:56,239
even know how she did it. But so I'm on

2977
01:40:53,359 --> 01:40:58,000
there and um and he calls me and says,

2978
01:40:56,238 --> 01:41:00,238
"I want you to meet with this guy." He

2979
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:05,359
goes by the name Legend, and that's not

2980
01:41:00,238 --> 01:41:07,198
his real name, but um he um he he comes

2981
01:41:05,359 --> 01:41:10,479
up he comes into the office and he has

2982
01:41:07,198 --> 01:41:12,158
to he can't use his real name and uh and

2983
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:13,839
says, "Look, they're getting $40 million

2984
01:41:12,158 --> 01:41:18,158
a week." I said, "Who is?" He said, "The

2985
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:20,719
Taliban." And he's a he's a um Afghani

2986
01:41:18,158 --> 01:41:22,719
that fought for us. And so he's dual

2987
01:41:20,719 --> 01:41:25,279
citizenship introduc you know I talked

2988
01:41:22,719 --> 01:41:26,880
to the pre for last democratically

2989
01:41:25,279 --> 01:41:30,719
elected president of Afghanistan through

2990
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:33,118
him on a on a call and um and he's a

2991
01:41:30,719 --> 01:41:36,719
dear friend and he comes by all the time

2992
01:41:33,118 --> 01:41:39,439
and we talk and and so John Stout in my

2993
01:41:36,719 --> 01:41:41,840
office who's like he's the best. I mean

2994
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:44,638
this guy his mom and daddy were in a

2995
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:46,719
very tragic car accident and they um

2996
01:41:44,639 --> 01:41:48,560
they prayed through it and and they both

2997
01:41:46,719 --> 01:41:50,800
lived. I mean, daddy had to get, you

2998
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:52,719
know, his banged up and his mama's head

2999
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:55,679
got banged up pretty bad. And John's

3000
01:41:52,719 --> 01:41:58,079
just he's he is the quintessential

3001
01:41:55,679 --> 01:41:59,920
staffer because he's so loyal and he

3002
01:41:58,079 --> 01:42:01,920
loves this country. And so he said,

3003
01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:03,920
"Boss, I think I got an idea." I said,

3004
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:06,880
"All right." So he figured out this

3005
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:09,679
monitoring thing where what they do is

3006
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:12,639
they um they send they send pallets of

3007
01:42:09,679 --> 01:42:16,319
cash to them through whatever and they

3008
01:42:12,639 --> 01:42:18,880
uh there's three banks in um over there

3009
01:42:16,319 --> 01:42:20,238
that are owned by the Taliban and

3010
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:23,840
everything goes through them. You know

3011
01:42:20,238 --> 01:42:25,599
the Lord takes 10% with tithe and but

3012
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:27,199
the Taliban takes a hell of a lot more.

3013
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:29,360
They take it right off the top and on

3014
01:42:27,198 --> 01:42:31,678
ingress and egress. If you give them

3015
01:42:29,359 --> 01:42:33,359
money or take money away, I mean, or if

3016
01:42:31,679 --> 01:42:35,520
you spend money or put money in or

3017
01:42:33,359 --> 01:42:37,439
whatever you take in or pay out, they

3018
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:40,480
get their cut off of it every dadum

3019
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:43,519
time. And so I'm thinking, this can't be

3020
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:45,519
right. So I got a memo on my desk from

3021
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:47,840
the State Department. It's stamped

3022
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:49,920
classified, so I can't talk about it,

3023
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:52,159
but then it's stamped unclassified under

3024
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:53,520
it, so I can talk about it. And it

3025
01:42:52,158 --> 01:42:55,359
basically said under the Biden

3026
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:59,520
administration, they think we gave them

3027
01:42:55,359 --> 01:43:01,118
$5 billion with a B5 $5 billion.

3028
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:03,040
Now,

3029
01:43:01,118 --> 01:43:05,359
and you've got NOS's. Now, how many

3030
01:43:03,039 --> 01:43:06,238
NOS's you think operate out of over

3031
01:43:05,359 --> 01:43:07,519
there?

3032
01:43:06,238 --> 01:43:09,359
>> Oh, how many?

3033
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:11,360
>> Over a thousand. And then you throw in

3034
01:43:09,359 --> 01:43:12,479
the United Nations and the

3035
01:43:11,359 --> 01:43:13,039
>> out of Afghanistan.

3036
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:14,479
>> Yeah. It's just

3037
01:43:13,039 --> 01:43:17,198
>> there's a thousand NOS.

3038
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:19,198
>> It's the freakest it's the biggest scam.

3039
01:43:17,198 --> 01:43:21,359
NOS's. I wrote a letter to the president

3040
01:43:19,198 --> 01:43:23,279
months ago and I'm they've tapped the

3041
01:43:21,359 --> 01:43:24,559
brakes on the NOS's. I mean, some of

3042
01:43:23,279 --> 01:43:28,319
them don't have any money and some of

3043
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:29,760
them got a lot. But Elon Musk told me

3044
01:43:28,319 --> 01:43:31,439
like I really know him. I mean, I've

3045
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:32,880
hung out with him a couple times and we

3046
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:36,675
talked. Called me Tim, which I thought

3047
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:38,079
was pretty cool. Um, but he says uh um

3048
01:43:36,676 --> 01:43:40,880
[snorts] he says, "Tim, here's how these

3049
01:43:38,079 --> 01:43:42,639
NOS's work." He said, "You know, they

3050
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:44,400
start out as a good organization. maybe

3051
01:43:42,639 --> 01:43:45,840
during Bush one or Bush two, you know, a

3052
01:43:44,399 --> 01:43:47,439
lot of those limousine liberals,

3053
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:50,960
dogooders, you know, they start these

3054
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:53,599
organizations and they um they set them

3055
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:56,480
up and and to do, you know, feed the

3056
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:58,400
starving children or whatever. Well,

3057
01:43:56,479 --> 01:44:00,559
they don't have any money in them and

3058
01:43:58,399 --> 01:44:03,039
some billionaire who we could we all

3059
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:04,880
know, you can just name them. They'll

3060
01:44:03,039 --> 01:44:06,639
drop a million in one of those and then

3061
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:08,239
this unelected bureaucrat in Washington

3062
01:44:06,639 --> 01:44:10,079
DC says, "Hey, they got a million

3063
01:44:08,238 --> 01:44:12,238
dollars. This place is legit." And so

3064
01:44:10,079 --> 01:44:15,519
they give them money. They put the money

3065
01:44:12,238 --> 01:44:17,198
in there for them and then they start

3066
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:20,960
running federal money through that.

3067
01:44:17,198 --> 01:44:22,479
Yours and my tax dollars. And he told me

3068
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:24,719
he thinks they stole over a trillion

3069
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:26,718
dollars. I thought at the time I thought

3070
01:44:24,719 --> 01:44:30,399
that was crazy. But then I start looking

3071
01:44:26,719 --> 01:44:33,600
at um uh you know what happened in

3072
01:44:30,399 --> 01:44:36,399
Minneapolis Minnesota 19 billion.

3073
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:38,880
>> Joe, when I went to state legislature,

3074
01:44:36,399 --> 01:44:41,599
our our state budget of Tennessee wasn't

3075
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:44,079
$19 billion as years ago. So, it's a lot

3076
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:46,079
more than that now, but that's the the

3077
01:44:44,079 --> 01:44:49,439
amount of fraud and waste and abuse that

3078
01:44:46,079 --> 01:44:53,198
go on. Well, so back backtrack to this

3079
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:56,399
deal. So, I get involved with it and um

3080
01:44:53,198 --> 01:44:59,359
and and it it's just unbelievable. It

3081
01:44:56,399 --> 01:45:01,279
took me two I passed the bill twice. The

3082
01:44:59,359 --> 01:45:02,799
second time my buddy John Stout in the

3083
01:45:01,279 --> 01:45:05,359
office there, he comes up with even

3084
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:08,320
stronger version. And so, we send it to

3085
01:45:05,359 --> 01:45:13,359
the Senate. And so we find out that

3086
01:45:08,319 --> 01:45:15,679
there's a Senate staffer that

3087
01:45:13,359 --> 01:45:18,399
somebody said he's like the unofficial

3088
01:45:15,679 --> 01:45:20,880
uh ambassador to Afghanistan. He's I've

3089
01:45:18,399 --> 01:45:23,439
literally read where he said it seem

3090
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:25,520
appears to me complimentary things about

3091
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:27,118
the Taliban. Now those people want to

3092
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,560
kill us. They'll as I like to say

3093
01:45:27,118 --> 01:45:30,319
they'll hate us for free. We don't need

3094
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:32,239
to give them any money. Well, it's like

3095
01:45:30,319 --> 01:45:35,198
pull it's like pulling teeth through my

3096
01:45:32,238 --> 01:45:37,839
committee. the Democrats raised ruckus

3097
01:45:35,198 --> 01:45:39,759
and uh because obviously they don't want

3098
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:43,920
anybody looking at those NOS's and the

3099
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:46,719
NGO money now get this it maybe a little

3100
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:49,199
bit goes to feed some starving kid but a

3101
01:45:46,719 --> 01:45:50,719
lot of it gets washed and it goes back

3102
01:45:49,198 --> 01:45:52,399
to the good old United States of

3103
01:45:50,719 --> 01:45:53,600
America. Are you familiar with dark

3104
01:45:52,399 --> 01:45:56,319
money and campaigns?

3105
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:59,679
>> Yes. You know, you're and I'll the folks

3106
01:45:56,319 --> 01:46:02,319
back home the day before the election,

3107
01:45:59,679 --> 01:46:04,480
the the people for American justice

3108
01:46:02,319 --> 01:46:06,559
approved this ad. Did you know Tim

3109
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:08,399
Burchett, you know, pushed his second

3110
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:10,560
grade girlfriend down in a mud puddle

3111
01:46:08,399 --> 01:46:12,399
and never apologized? That's what

3112
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:14,000
happened, you know, and then paid for by

3113
01:46:12,399 --> 01:46:16,000
the people for America justice, you

3114
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:18,079
know, you know, and then but what's

3115
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:19,679
happened is is that money that you're

3116
01:46:18,079 --> 01:46:21,840
sending over there is coming back in the

3117
01:46:19,679 --> 01:46:23,920
form of dark money. And we've got and

3118
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:26,000
and I I think both parties are involved

3119
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:28,639
with it at some point. I think the

3120
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:30,238
Democrats have had the had a run of it

3121
01:46:28,639 --> 01:46:32,239
and they've they've got a they've got it

3122
01:46:30,238 --> 01:46:34,182
pretty much closed. They've got a pretty

3123
01:46:32,238 --> 01:46:35,118
good market going on it in my opinion.

3124
01:46:34,182 --> 01:46:37,039
[snorts] And there are probably some

3125
01:46:35,118 --> 01:46:40,479
Republicans I think I know of that are

3126
01:46:37,039 --> 01:46:42,079
that have some dark money too. And uh

3127
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:43,678
not necessarily from this but from other

3128
01:46:42,079 --> 01:46:46,399
things. And then you start talking about

3129
01:46:43,679 --> 01:46:48,319
the UN. The UN has got and and everybody

3130
01:46:46,399 --> 01:46:50,319
say that's UN Burch. We don't have the

3131
01:46:48,319 --> 01:46:52,559
heck we don't. We sponsor the freaking

3132
01:46:50,319 --> 01:46:54,319
UN. If it was up to me, I'd pull out of

3133
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:57,039
the dad ggum UN. They are nothing. All

3134
01:46:54,319 --> 01:46:59,198
they do is get Americans killed. They

3135
01:46:57,039 --> 01:47:00,880
they they talk ugly about us and then

3136
01:46:59,198 --> 01:47:03,519
they take our dad gum money and we let

3137
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:05,440
them do it because crooked politicians

3138
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:08,400
are in bed. Washington is crooked as a

3139
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:11,118
dog's leg, Joe. And this and this bill

3140
01:47:08,399 --> 01:47:12,879
makes them report it and and and follow

3141
01:47:11,118 --> 01:47:15,039
the money so we know where it's going.

3142
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:17,520
And if it's going to the pal Taliban,

3143
01:47:15,039 --> 01:47:20,479
it's out. And so can you just explain to

3144
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:23,119
me how they would justify sending money

3145
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:24,718
to the Taliban and what what is like

3146
01:47:23,118 --> 01:47:25,039
what is the circumstance like how do

3147
01:47:24,719 --> 01:47:26,639
they

3148
01:47:25,039 --> 01:47:29,118
>> they justify it by saying it doesn't

3149
01:47:26,639 --> 01:47:31,199
happen. They justify it by saying it

3150
01:47:29,118 --> 01:47:33,519
doesn't happen. But I'm talking to a guy

3151
01:47:31,198 --> 01:47:35,118
that's got a legend who's got people on

3152
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:36,719
the ground and and the people over there

3153
01:47:35,118 --> 01:47:38,880
the the freedom fight are saying please

3154
01:47:36,719 --> 01:47:41,920
quit sending them money. police and you

3155
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:43,359
know they when we left over there you

3156
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:45,840
know we left how many billions of

3157
01:47:43,359 --> 01:47:48,719
dollars worth of of armaments on the

3158
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:50,480
ground they said oh uh you know I mean I

3159
01:47:48,719 --> 01:47:52,639
heard Democrats saying well those people

3160
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:54,799
can't fly those high-end choppers well

3161
01:47:52,639 --> 01:47:56,400
you know who could the dadgum Chinese

3162
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:57,279
who were on the ground before we got out

3163
01:47:56,399 --> 01:48:00,000
of there right

3164
01:47:57,279 --> 01:48:01,920
>> so it's it's just a crooked game it's a

3165
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:03,760
small portion I know

3166
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,239
>> but explain how's the money getting to

3167
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:07,760
them

3168
01:48:04,238 --> 01:48:10,638
>> okay it is sent to them um through these

3169
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:12,639
NOS's and other organizations and so

3170
01:48:10,639 --> 01:48:13,199
>> so we fund the NOS's

3171
01:48:12,639 --> 01:48:15,279
>> correct

3172
01:48:13,198 --> 01:48:18,238
>> the NOS send money to the Taliban why

3173
01:48:15,279 --> 01:48:20,319
why would they do that

3174
01:48:18,238 --> 01:48:21,279
>> because they get a cut off of it they

3175
01:48:20,319 --> 01:48:24,559
don't care

3176
01:48:21,279 --> 01:48:26,800
>> okay so the Taliban gets 40 million and

3177
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:28,639
then they send that money back

3178
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:30,320
>> some of it comes back and some of it

3179
01:48:28,639 --> 01:48:31,840
doesn't um

3180
01:48:30,319 --> 01:48:33,198
>> but as long as they get a piece of it

3181
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:33,679
they don't care how much the Taliban

3182
01:48:33,198 --> 01:48:36,158
gets

3183
01:48:33,679 --> 01:48:38,319
>> right it this requires a report on any

3184
01:48:36,158 --> 01:48:40,238
cash assistant programs in Afghanistan

3185
01:48:38,319 --> 01:48:42,399
and how the US keeps the Taliban from

3186
01:48:40,238 --> 01:48:45,118
assessing that. And it requires a report

3187
01:48:42,399 --> 01:48:47,198
on the Afghan fund and the Afghanistan

3188
01:48:45,118 --> 01:48:48,799
central bank. And these reports, of

3189
01:48:47,198 --> 01:48:50,799
course, would shed light on the

3190
01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:54,079
Taliban's influence over the Afghanistan

3191
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:55,840
central bank. And you can um you can

3192
01:48:54,079 --> 01:48:57,359
research it. A lot of it is is these

3193
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,639
dogooder programs, you know, oh man,

3194
01:48:57,359 --> 01:48:59,759
we're taking care of the orphans. We're

3195
01:48:58,639 --> 01:49:01,199
taking care of this. And you know good

3196
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:03,199
and well they ain't taking care of any

3197
01:49:01,198 --> 01:49:04,559
dad gum orphans. They're stealing the

3198
01:49:03,198 --> 01:49:06,719
money to do it.

3199
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,600
>> And it just infuriates me. And then I

3200
01:49:06,719 --> 01:49:08,639
hear them say, "Well, it's not

3201
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,159
happening." I say, "Well, if it's not

3202
01:49:08,639 --> 01:49:11,679
happening, then dad gum it pass the

3203
01:49:10,158 --> 01:49:14,238
bill. What's it hurt?

3204
01:49:11,679 --> 01:49:16,800
>> What's it hurt?" We pass

3205
01:49:14,238 --> 01:49:18,718
worthless legislation every dad gum day.

3206
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:20,800
And you know, and I can't get a peep. I

3207
01:49:18,719 --> 01:49:22,319
said to Thone when he came in when King

3208
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:23,920
Charles was in which was kind of funny,

3209
01:49:22,319 --> 01:49:24,399
too. I had funny conversation. King

3210
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:25,679
Charles,

3211
01:49:24,399 --> 01:49:27,198
>> by the way, no kings.

3212
01:49:25,679 --> 01:49:29,118
>> I'm not a king. Yeah. Yeah. What about

3213
01:49:27,198 --> 01:49:30,638
that? I was

3214
01:49:29,118 --> 01:49:32,880
What the heck? I got a picture. There's

3215
01:49:30,639 --> 01:49:34,639
a picture of me. I did a video on my ex

3216
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:36,480
account at Tim Burchett. See, I threw

3217
01:49:34,639 --> 01:49:38,239
that plug in. But um

3218
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:39,839
>> Central Bank of Afghanistan said it

3219
01:49:38,238 --> 01:49:42,559
received another injection of $40

3220
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:46,000
million in cash this week. And this is

3221
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:48,159
literally $100 bills in stacks. Is that

3222
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:50,158
real? Is that what is that? A stock

3223
01:49:48,158 --> 01:49:51,759
photo or is that them showing a

3224
01:49:50,158 --> 01:49:53,439
photograph of the money they received?

3225
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,400
Cuz I can't imagine they're sending

3226
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:56,319
bricks of cash.

3227
01:49:54,399 --> 01:49:57,599
>> Oh yeah, absolutely. It's pallets. It's

3228
01:49:56,319 --> 01:49:57,920
called a pallet of cash.

3229
01:49:57,600 --> 01:49:59,280
>> What?

3230
01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:01,359
>> I'm reading through this explanation of

3231
01:49:59,279 --> 01:50:02,639
it from these reports. It's uh he's

3232
01:50:01,359 --> 01:50:03,920
saying exactly what these are all

3233
01:50:02,639 --> 01:50:05,440
saying, but this is a lot of

3234
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:07,359
>> and I'm not as I'm look

3235
01:50:05,439 --> 01:50:09,118
>> explanation in here.

3236
01:50:07,359 --> 01:50:10,559
>> I got I got a mutual fund. I don't

3237
01:50:09,118 --> 01:50:13,039
understand all the money, but when I see

3238
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:14,719
here $40 million going overseas,

3239
01:50:13,039 --> 01:50:16,319
>> but in cash too is crazy.

3240
01:50:14,719 --> 01:50:19,198
>> There's no record of it.

3241
01:50:16,319 --> 01:50:21,359
>> Take it and divvy it up and

3242
01:50:19,198 --> 01:50:22,719
>> yeah, this is it every day. The UN is

3243
01:50:21,359 --> 01:50:24,559
responsible for purchasing,

3244
01:50:22,719 --> 01:50:27,039
transporting, and transferring at least

3245
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:29,119
$2.9 billion in US currency to

3246
01:50:27,039 --> 01:50:31,679
Afghanistan. This was from 2024, I

3247
01:50:29,118 --> 01:50:33,759
think, when this was printed. [laughter]

3248
01:50:31,679 --> 01:50:34,319
>> So that they have to find the cash on,

3249
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:35,840
you know,

3250
01:50:34,319 --> 01:50:37,759
>> call your senator and say, "I want this

3251
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:38,800
damn bill on the floor."

3252
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:40,400
>> Crazy.

3253
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:42,639
>> It's passed the committee. And it was

3254
01:50:40,399 --> 01:50:44,319
like pulling teeth. It was cuz

3255
01:50:42,639 --> 01:50:45,520
apparently I offended somebody, which

3256
01:50:44,319 --> 01:50:47,279
I'm sure I did now. But

3257
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:49,679
>> but I don't understand why anybody

3258
01:50:47,279 --> 01:50:52,639
wouldn't recognize that giving money to

3259
01:50:49,679 --> 01:50:54,719
a an organization that hates us, a

3260
01:50:52,639 --> 01:50:55,279
fundamentalist religious organization

3261
01:50:54,719 --> 01:50:56,800
that hates,

3262
01:50:55,279 --> 01:51:00,158
>> they're not a religion. They're not a

3263
01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:00,560
religion. They're a they're a a cult or

3264
01:51:00,158 --> 01:51:01,839
um

3265
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:03,760
>> yeah, whatever you want to call it.

3266
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:07,440
Since it first cash shipment, UN has

3267
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:10,560
made at least 80 purchases of cash for

3268
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:12,879
transport to Afghanistan. 80 80

3269
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:14,719
purchases of $40 million. The UN

3270
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:17,039
reported reported that it began

3271
01:51:14,719 --> 01:51:19,198
purchasing and shipping cash because of

3272
01:51:17,039 --> 01:51:21,198
Afghan's bank's inability to participate

3273
01:51:19,198 --> 01:51:23,439
in international wire transfers and

3274
01:51:21,198 --> 01:51:25,439
Afghanistan's lack of domestic currency

3275
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:27,439
circulating throughout its economy. Oh,

3276
01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:28,559
so we got to help them out. and give $40

3277
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:30,399
million a week.

3278
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,920
>> Yeah. And the starving kids are still

3279
01:51:30,399 --> 01:51:33,839
starving and the little orphans aren't

3280
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:36,399
being taken care of and they're still

3281
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:37,679
throwing gays off of buildings and

3282
01:51:36,399 --> 01:51:39,359
poking little girls eyes out.

3283
01:51:37,679 --> 01:51:40,800
>> Any gays left? I mean,

3284
01:51:39,359 --> 01:51:42,158
>> well, they got to be in the closet.

3285
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:44,000
>> They are in the closet. There's a lot of

3286
01:51:42,158 --> 01:51:46,000
that. A lot of pedophilia. I have some

3287
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:46,399
buddies that served over some horrible

3288
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:48,238
stories.

3289
01:51:46,399 --> 01:51:51,598
>> Guys wanted to Yeah. Guy was going to

3290
01:51:48,238 --> 01:51:53,118
frag a Afghan general or something one

3291
01:51:51,599 --> 01:51:55,119
time. He told me and he he used to work

3292
01:51:53,118 --> 01:51:57,359
for me and he had he had mental issues

3293
01:51:55,118 --> 01:51:58,479
over it. Oh, it's horrible. Yeah, I've

3294
01:51:57,359 --> 01:51:58,880
heard horrible horrible stories. It's

3295
01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:00,079
just

3296
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:02,960
>> my dad my dad wouldn't go back to

3297
01:52:00,079 --> 01:52:05,679
Okinawa because of if I can digress

3298
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:07,039
quickly. Uh they daddy went back for the

3299
01:52:05,679 --> 01:52:09,279
50th anniversary of the invasion of

3300
01:52:07,039 --> 01:52:11,118
Peloo and he said I said you going to go

3301
01:52:09,279 --> 01:52:12,559
back to 50th because you know those

3302
01:52:11,118 --> 01:52:13,920
Marines that's not a lot of those guys

3303
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:15,679
are left you know and they're all gone

3304
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:18,399
now. But he said I ain't going to go

3305
01:52:15,679 --> 01:52:19,840
back to Okanawa. And he said he told me

3306
01:52:18,399 --> 01:52:22,559
this story. He said they came over this

3307
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:24,880
hill and a corsair caught a bunch of

3308
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:27,280
Japanese out in this field. He's called

3309
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:28,960
dad called it a lucky strike. Dad love a

3310
01:52:27,279 --> 01:52:31,118
corser. That thing dive at over 400

3311
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:33,359
miles an hour and just lit them up.

3312
01:52:31,118 --> 01:52:35,839
Caught them out, obliterated them and

3313
01:52:33,359 --> 01:52:38,479
they run up on them and um they had been

3314
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:41,360
raping some of the islanders or Korean

3315
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:43,198
girls that they they collected and um

3316
01:52:41,359 --> 01:52:45,198
and I think that messed with my dad all

3317
01:52:43,198 --> 01:52:48,319
the stuff he saw blowing caves and

3318
01:52:45,198 --> 01:52:50,319
shooting people up close and that's what

3319
01:52:48,319 --> 01:52:51,759
he said. I won't go into it because I

3320
01:52:50,319 --> 01:52:55,439
got a daughter that's gonna be watching

3321
01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:58,560
this thing, but um it was and and that's

3322
01:52:55,439 --> 01:53:01,598
that's what scarred my daddy.

3323
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:04,480
>> You would have loved him. He was

3324
01:53:01,599 --> 01:53:06,639
my buddy uh my buddy Chris Hagerty, he

3325
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:08,799
got a he got a Acura for Christmas when

3326
01:53:06,639 --> 01:53:11,279
it was a bright red Acura and you know

3327
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:14,239
Acura's not made in America at the time.

3328
01:53:11,279 --> 01:53:16,000
And dad goes, "Hag," he says, and my

3329
01:53:14,238 --> 01:53:16,959
daddy was a dean at UT, dean of student

3330
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:19,920
country. He goes, "Where's that thing

3331
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:22,960
made?" And he goes, "I reckon it's made

3332
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:24,000
in Japan, CB." And dad goes, "I reckon

3333
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:25,599
you're going to be parking that thing

3334
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:27,279
out in the street." Daddy just went back

3335
01:53:25,599 --> 01:53:29,520
in the kitchen. Hag went out and moved

3336
01:53:27,279 --> 01:53:31,920
his actor out on the street. Nobody

3337
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:33,520
messed with my dad. He was I remember

3338
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:34,880
the neighbor one time she comes over

3339
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:36,719
there and said, "Somebody's in my

3340
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:39,520
house." And I was like, "What?" And I'm

3341
01:53:36,719 --> 01:53:41,439
downstairs and I run upstairs and dad

3342
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:43,920
runs by me with a Browning High Power. I

3343
01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:45,519
mean, he's probably 70 years old and he

3344
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,800
was clearing that house. He ran in that

3345
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:48,159
house and I remember mom was on the

3346
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:50,000
phone. who says, "Don't shoot my

3347
01:53:48,158 --> 01:53:52,438
husband. He's in a blue powder leisure

3348
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:52,438
suit." [laughter]

3349
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:57,679
Oh man, he was something else. He was uh

3350
01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:59,199
Yeah, mama was something else, too. They

3351
01:53:57,679 --> 01:54:00,639
were They were They were real

3352
01:53:59,198 --> 01:54:02,559
Christians. So, they weren't bumper

3353
01:54:00,639 --> 01:54:05,359
sticker kind of Christians. People would

3354
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:07,039
I would uh And I to this day, I don't

3355
01:54:05,359 --> 01:54:09,279
like I love the Waffle House, you know,

3356
01:54:07,039 --> 01:54:11,920
it's America's premier steakhouse. And

3357
01:54:09,279 --> 01:54:14,319
um and I go in there and um and I don't

3358
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:16,079
I don't like eating breakfast food any

3359
01:54:14,319 --> 01:54:17,279
other time than at breakfast because I

3360
01:54:16,079 --> 01:54:18,639
can always remember as a little boy,

3361
01:54:17,279 --> 01:54:20,479
daddy would always pick up somebody on

3362
01:54:18,639 --> 01:54:22,880
the interstate, somebody broke down,

3363
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:25,678
black folks, white folks, you know,

3364
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:27,599
anybody and um or some UT student that

3365
01:54:25,679 --> 01:54:28,800
was having a little rough go and bring

3366
01:54:27,599 --> 01:54:30,800
them to the house and there wouldn't be

3367
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:32,800
enough hamburgers for me, my brother,

3368
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:34,320
sister, and I, you know, the five of us.

3369
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:36,719
And but mama could make enough

3370
01:54:34,319 --> 01:54:38,000
breakfast. And I always knew that daddy

3371
01:54:36,719 --> 01:54:39,118
had brought somebody home and we were

3372
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:40,800
going to be eating breakfast. We were

3373
01:54:39,118 --> 01:54:42,799
gonna be eating breakfast for supper.

3374
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:44,239
And that always ticked me off as a kid.

3375
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:46,320
You know, I didn't understand at the

3376
01:54:44,238 --> 01:54:47,759
time, but now I realize I had pretty

3377
01:54:46,319 --> 01:54:48,479
cool parents. So

3378
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:49,840
>> that's awesome.

3379
01:54:48,479 --> 01:54:50,319
>> Can I show you a cool picture of my

3380
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:50,719
mama?

3381
01:54:50,319 --> 01:54:52,238
>> Sure.

3382
01:54:50,719 --> 01:54:55,359
>> She flew an airplane during the Second

3383
01:54:52,238 --> 01:54:56,879
World War. She was um I was hanging out

3384
01:54:55,359 --> 01:54:59,359
with Kid Rock one time, and I'm going to

3385
01:54:56,880 --> 01:55:01,359
use a little language here, Bobby. And

3386
01:54:59,359 --> 01:55:03,359
um and I said, "I know your your thing

3387
01:55:01,359 --> 01:55:04,960
is you're the American badass." I said,

3388
01:55:03,359 --> 01:55:06,639
"But I was raised by the American

3389
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:08,560
badasses." And I got pictures dad on

3390
01:55:06,639 --> 01:55:10,159
Peloo and Okinawa and with his Thompson

3391
01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:12,159
submachine gun stuff. Here's my mama.

3392
01:55:10,158 --> 01:55:13,198
Somebody colorizes. She's just a little

3393
01:55:12,158 --> 01:55:14,319
country girl.

3394
01:55:13,198 --> 01:55:15,839
>> Wow.

3395
01:55:14,319 --> 01:55:17,920
>> And flying an airplane during the

3396
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:19,760
second. Her brother Roy who was 33 years

3397
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:20,158
old got killed in the hedge.

3398
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:21,840
>> Wow.

3399
01:55:20,158 --> 01:55:22,238
>> She's a beautiful woman. They colorized

3400
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:23,039
that.

3401
01:55:22,238 --> 01:55:25,839
>> Crazy.

3402
01:55:23,039 --> 01:55:27,279
>> And I'm an unrepentant mama's boy.

3403
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:28,880
>> That's a crazy picture.

3404
01:55:27,279 --> 01:55:30,000
>> Yeah, that's crazy. She got her foot up

3405
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,760
and I've got a picture of my daughter.

3406
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:33,198
We were at the air show and the guy had

3407
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:34,960
a biplane over there and he wasn't going

3408
01:55:33,198 --> 01:55:36,799
to There it is. There it is. That's the

3409
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:39,920
Oh, thank you, Jamie. You're the man.

3410
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:42,000
But that's in Nashville. And somebody it

3411
01:55:39,920 --> 01:55:43,039
was National Women's Aviators Day and

3412
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:45,920
everybody's showing all these pictures

3413
01:55:43,039 --> 01:55:47,679
of these women and I I said, "Well, I'm

3414
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:49,039
going to have to one up y'all." And I I

3415
01:55:47,679 --> 01:55:50,480
put that up there and somebody sent it

3416
01:55:49,039 --> 01:55:51,840
to me. I didn't know, just a supporter,

3417
01:55:50,479 --> 01:55:54,638
not even in my district. And they

3418
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:57,039
colorized it for me. Wow. And so I was

3419
01:55:54,639 --> 01:55:58,400
uh you know and that company that I

3420
01:55:57,039 --> 01:56:00,319
can't read the name off of all the

3421
01:55:58,399 --> 01:56:02,079
parachute but I think they're still in

3422
01:56:00,319 --> 01:56:04,399
business and but anyway that was in

3423
01:56:02,079 --> 01:56:07,039
Nashville. You can see they're on dirt

3424
01:56:04,399 --> 01:56:08,799
and um and the the crazy thing was when

3425
01:56:07,039 --> 01:56:10,319
she qualified I don't know how long how

3426
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:12,800
many how long you got to fly with an

3427
01:56:10,319 --> 01:56:14,880
instructor before you solo. Well, they

3428
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:17,039
messed up and they did it in half they

3429
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:18,639
they did the math wrong on it, which was

3430
01:56:17,039 --> 01:56:20,719
crazy because mama was a math teacher,

3431
01:56:18,639 --> 01:56:22,880
but she was a country girl and she she

3432
01:56:20,719 --> 01:56:24,560
was she's in it for the fight and she's

3433
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:27,520
a lot like my wife. My wife is a

3434
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:29,440
fighter, too. She um you don't get

3435
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:33,360
between her, anybody in her family, but

3436
01:56:29,439 --> 01:56:35,839
but um mama um they uh she soloed in

3437
01:56:33,359 --> 01:56:37,759
half the time that she was supposed to.

3438
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:40,639
And you know, the war's going on and and

3439
01:56:37,760 --> 01:56:42,880
they I've still got her little log book

3440
01:56:40,639 --> 01:56:44,719
and um and they tried to redo the math

3441
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:46,639
on it and it was wrong. But you know,

3442
01:56:44,719 --> 01:56:47,920
mama just daddy said, "Yeah, I bet she

3443
01:56:46,639 --> 01:56:50,480
cleared out a fence row when she

3444
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:51,199
landed." And then uh no, she was pretty

3445
01:56:50,479 --> 01:56:54,399
cool.

3446
01:56:51,198 --> 01:56:56,479
>> It's got to be an a terrible slap in the

3447
01:56:54,399 --> 01:56:58,000
face of these people that served in

3448
01:56:56,479 --> 01:56:58,959
Afghanistan to find out that the

3449
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:00,880
Taliban's getting

3450
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:04,560
>> my buddy Eli Crane. I just look over at

3451
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:08,239
him and he's one beautiful human being.

3452
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:11,199
I love Eli Crane. He is my buddy and um

3453
01:57:08,238 --> 01:57:12,158
um lone survivor. Um

3454
01:57:11,198 --> 01:57:13,839
>> Marcus Latrell.

3455
01:57:12,158 --> 01:57:14,238
>> Yeah. His brother is

3456
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:16,639
>> Morgan.

3457
01:57:14,238 --> 01:57:18,959
>> Morgan. Yeah. He's the catcher on our on

3458
01:57:16,639 --> 01:57:21,118
our baseball team. And um I was out

3459
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:22,639
there one day and um we were we we we

3460
01:57:21,118 --> 01:57:24,880
don't actually practice in the best part

3461
01:57:22,639 --> 01:57:26,639
of town. And but we've got security

3462
01:57:24,880 --> 01:57:28,960
everywhere because when they shot Scaliz

3463
01:57:26,639 --> 01:57:32,239
and all those guys years back um we've

3464
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:36,480
got I feel very secure and heard just

3465
01:57:32,238 --> 01:57:39,279
pop pop and and this young officer DC

3466
01:57:36,479 --> 01:57:41,279
officer said capital policeman said it's

3467
01:57:39,279 --> 01:57:43,519
okay guys I think it's fireworks and

3468
01:57:41,279 --> 01:57:46,079
Morgan took his hat off and goes bett

3469
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:47,920
that was gunfire and I thought I'm going

3470
01:57:46,079 --> 01:57:49,519
with what Morgan says not going what

3471
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:52,560
this guy up here says ain't never fired

3472
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:54,239
a shot in anger and um and I love those

3473
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:56,400
guys they're wonderful people and I do

3474
01:57:54,238 --> 01:57:58,399
too. I I I hurt for him. I used to hurt

3475
01:57:56,399 --> 01:57:59,839
for my daddy because he would um he'd

3476
01:57:58,399 --> 01:58:00,960
talk about China. They went to China

3477
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:03,119
after the war and he fought the

3478
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:06,319
communist over there for a short while

3479
01:58:03,118 --> 01:58:08,319
and then um before he left the Marine

3480
01:58:06,319 --> 01:58:10,000
Corps, but how we just turn them over

3481
01:58:08,319 --> 01:58:12,639
and that he would talk about that and he

3482
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:15,439
would he would be visibly upset and walk

3483
01:58:12,639 --> 01:58:17,039
away because of that. You know, these we

3484
01:58:15,439 --> 01:58:19,198
just we want to get these wars over and

3485
01:58:17,039 --> 01:58:20,399
we don't we don't deal with the

3486
01:58:19,198 --> 01:58:22,879
repercussions. We don't deal the

3487
01:58:20,399 --> 01:58:26,799
repercussions of we got warriors we need

3488
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:28,719
to heal and we got to you know and and

3489
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:31,679
it's just very frustrating to me.

3490
01:58:28,719 --> 01:58:33,359
>> Yeah. Well, you know, kudos to Trump for

3491
01:58:31,679 --> 01:58:35,840
passing this psychedelics bill.

3492
01:58:33,359 --> 01:58:37,598
>> Oh, good gosh. I saw you on that. I love

3493
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:40,079
that. I I talked because I I didn't know

3494
01:58:37,599 --> 01:58:42,639
anything about it and I and I asked um I

3495
01:58:40,079 --> 01:58:44,079
asked some of those guys about it before

3496
01:58:42,639 --> 01:58:47,599
and they said, "Oh yeah, Burchett, it

3497
01:58:44,079 --> 01:58:49,118
it's I one of one member confided in me

3498
01:58:47,599 --> 01:58:51,279
that he you because he'd been in some of

3499
01:58:49,118 --> 01:58:53,519
the mess and he and I and I told him I

3500
01:58:51,279 --> 01:58:55,519
said, you know, my daddy was had anger

3501
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:57,280
issues and stuff. He never beat mama or

3502
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:58,719
me or anybody, but

3503
01:58:57,279 --> 01:58:59,359
>> how could you not?"

3504
01:58:58,719 --> 01:59:00,800
>> I know.

3505
01:58:59,359 --> 01:59:03,519
>> How could you expect That's the crazy

3506
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:05,360
thing. You expect this of people to do

3507
01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:07,040
horrible things and to see horrible

3508
01:59:05,359 --> 01:59:08,880
things and to come back and just go to

3509
01:59:07,039 --> 01:59:10,639
the grocery store, just be normal. Yeah.

3510
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:12,079
>> Just sit in traffic, be normal.

3511
01:59:10,639 --> 01:59:13,920
>> I remember one time we were at a UT

3512
01:59:12,079 --> 01:59:16,559
football game and I was a little boy. I

3513
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:18,480
must have been four or five. And uh

3514
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:21,280
>> and that we on the 50 yard line. It was

3515
01:59:18,479 --> 01:59:22,959
in the 60s and they they let you bring

3516
01:59:21,279 --> 01:59:24,399
these cowbells and it was the last game

3517
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:25,760
they let you bring cowbells, too. I

3518
01:59:24,399 --> 01:59:27,439
don't know. probably do it now, but back

3519
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:29,599
then they they And so this guy was

3520
01:59:27,439 --> 01:59:31,598
sitting behind us and he was drunk and

3521
01:59:29,599 --> 01:59:34,079
he and he took the Lord's name in vain.

3522
01:59:31,599 --> 01:59:35,599
And my daddy said, "Hey." He said, "We

3523
01:59:34,079 --> 01:59:37,679
got ladies down here, you know, my

3524
01:59:35,599 --> 01:59:40,880
sister who was probably seven or eight

3525
01:59:37,679 --> 01:59:42,719
and or and my mama was there." And the

3526
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:45,760
guy said, "Okay." And then the guy

3527
01:59:42,719 --> 01:59:47,599
spilled his drink on my dad and my mama

3528
01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:49,440
grabbed us all as kids and just rushed

3529
01:59:47,599 --> 01:59:51,119
us out. And and I remembered I was like,

3530
01:59:49,439 --> 01:59:52,879
"No, what's daddy doing?" You know, and

3531
01:59:51,118 --> 01:59:54,158
the UT cops, they love my daddy because

3532
01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:56,239
he was dean of student conduct. He

3533
01:59:54,158 --> 01:59:57,759
always backed them up and um they come

3534
01:59:56,238 --> 01:59:59,919
running down the aisle and literally my

3535
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:01,760
dad wh beat these guys' ass all three of

3536
01:59:59,920 --> 02:00:03,760
them right there on the 50 yard line at

3537
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:05,440
Neland Stadium and I was just a little

3538
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:06,960
boy and I was like he didn't give high

3539
02:00:05,439 --> 02:00:09,279
fives back then but if I had I would

3540
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:10,639
have given him cuz he was he was pretty

3541
02:00:09,279 --> 02:00:14,639
incredible guy.

3542
02:00:10,639 --> 02:00:16,480
>> Well guys been to war like that man had

3543
02:00:14,639 --> 02:00:18,000
and you come back and

3544
02:00:16,479 --> 02:00:19,839
>> and it wasn't any different than

3545
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:21,118
thousands of other of his buddies. you

3546
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:23,279
know, they would get together and talk

3547
02:00:21,118 --> 02:00:24,559
about stuff and and I, you know, we

3548
02:00:23,279 --> 02:00:26,000
didn't drink in the house. My mom and

3549
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:28,719
daddy didn't let me have a beer can

3550
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:31,760
collection and daddy's buddy Red Welch

3551
02:00:28,719 --> 02:00:33,359
came over and Red drank beer at the ha

3552
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:35,440
at the dinner table and it was in the

3553
02:00:33,359 --> 02:00:37,039
80s. I was in I was gosh I was getting

3554
02:00:35,439 --> 02:00:39,359
ready to go to college and that was

3555
02:00:37,039 --> 02:00:41,118
still no beer in the house and Red was

3556
02:00:39,359 --> 02:00:42,238
drinking beer and I said, "Daddy," I

3557
02:00:41,118 --> 02:00:44,479
said, "What's the deal with Red drinking

3558
02:00:42,238 --> 02:00:46,000
beer?" And he said, "Buddy," he said,

3559
02:00:44,479 --> 02:00:47,839
"you get pinned down on one of them

3560
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:50,079
islands and you got, you know, you're

3561
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:51,599
going to get you're going to leave this

3562
02:00:50,079 --> 02:00:53,519
earth pretty soon. There's one guy that

3563
02:00:51,599 --> 02:00:55,360
comes running for you. He can do pretty

3564
02:00:53,520 --> 02:00:57,280
much whatever he wants to in your house,

3565
02:00:55,359 --> 02:00:58,799
and that was Red. I found an old picture

3566
02:00:57,279 --> 02:01:01,599
of him and daddy in China the other

3567
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:02,880
day." But yeah, daddy had um he had a

3568
02:01:01,599 --> 02:01:04,560
great life, though. He had a [snorts]

3569
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:06,639
great life. Him and mom are both buried

3570
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:08,880
at Veteran Cemetery there in Knoxville.

3571
02:01:06,639 --> 02:01:11,359
And you know, to this day, I'm 61 years

3572
02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:12,880
old, and if I go up there, I I I think

3573
02:01:11,359 --> 02:01:14,880
about them and their sacrifice, and I

3574
02:01:12,880 --> 02:01:18,319
cry like a baby because I I go to that

3575
02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:20,719
Capitol, Joe, and I see people just that

3576
02:01:18,319 --> 02:01:22,880
are just going to throw it all away.

3577
02:01:20,719 --> 02:01:25,439
Throw it all away. And to me, that's

3578
02:01:22,880 --> 02:01:27,118
just that's that is unforgivable.

3579
02:01:25,439 --> 02:01:30,479
Unforgivable.

3580
02:01:27,118 --> 02:01:31,759
Well, I'm very happy that some of these

3581
02:01:30,479 --> 02:01:35,678
people that have experienced these

3582
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:36,960
horrible things have at least a pathway

3583
02:01:35,679 --> 02:01:38,719
to relief now.

3584
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:40,158
>> Yeah. And that is and and thank you for

3585
02:01:38,719 --> 02:01:42,239
getting involved, brother. That is that

3586
02:01:40,158 --> 02:01:43,598
was huge because I couldn't see that

3587
02:01:42,238 --> 02:01:45,598
ever do what?

3588
02:01:43,599 --> 02:01:47,199
>> Thank Rick Perry. Rick Perry and Brian

3589
02:01:45,599 --> 02:01:49,039
Hubard because if it wasn't for them

3590
02:01:47,198 --> 02:01:50,960
explaining to me what they've been

3591
02:01:49,039 --> 02:01:52,399
through and how it's helped people and

3592
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:54,239
all the other people that I know like

3593
02:01:52,399 --> 02:01:55,679
Marcus Latrell was a friend who's

3594
02:01:54,238 --> 02:01:56,959
>> dude, it wouldn't happen. I talked to

3595
02:01:55,679 --> 02:01:58,560
everybody and they said it wouldn't have

3596
02:01:56,960 --> 02:02:01,118
happened if it wasn't been for you. You

3597
02:01:58,560 --> 02:02:02,239
use that microphone for for good and I

3598
02:02:01,118 --> 02:02:02,719
appreciate it cuz a lot of people

3599
02:02:02,238 --> 02:02:04,959
aren't.

3600
02:02:02,719 --> 02:02:06,800
>> Well, I never asked them for anything

3601
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:08,560
>> up until that moment. And I was like, if

3602
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:11,119
there's a thing that I could do that

3603
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:12,080
might make the world a little bit of a

3604
02:02:11,118 --> 02:02:14,000
better place.

3605
02:02:12,079 --> 02:02:15,439
>> And the fact that those things were made

3606
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:16,719
illegal in the first place is just

3607
02:02:15,439 --> 02:02:18,238
ridiculous. It should have never

3608
02:02:16,719 --> 02:02:19,840
happened. They should have been studied

3609
02:02:18,238 --> 02:02:21,198
and we could understand how they could

3610
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:22,480
help people. Especially when you

3611
02:02:21,198 --> 02:02:24,079
consider how many people are on

3612
02:02:22,479 --> 02:02:25,519
anti-depressants in this country.

3613
02:02:24,079 --> 02:02:28,559
>> Wow. It's epidemic.

3614
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:30,480
>> Tim Wals's daughter, the guy who was

3615
02:02:28,560 --> 02:02:33,199
running for vice president, his daughter

3616
02:02:30,479 --> 02:02:34,559
just made a post on social media where

3617
02:02:33,198 --> 02:02:36,638
she was talking about how she's been on

3618
02:02:34,560 --> 02:02:38,960
them for 15 years and she's realizing

3619
02:02:36,639 --> 02:02:40,639
that they're a real problem and she

3620
02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:42,719
every time she's tried to get off, it's

3621
02:02:40,639 --> 02:02:44,639
been devastating. And I know people that

3622
02:02:42,719 --> 02:02:47,198
have also been on them that they try to

3623
02:02:44,639 --> 02:02:50,159
get off them like my friend Theo Vaughn

3624
02:02:47,198 --> 02:02:51,759
and the roof falls off and like every

3625
02:02:50,158 --> 02:02:53,439
time he starts talking about something

3626
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:55,280
that drives them crazy, I just got to

3627
02:02:53,439 --> 02:02:57,519
kind of rein them in and just like calm

3628
02:02:55,279 --> 02:02:59,679
down. Like you know if you've had

3629
02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:00,000
friends take their lives and I've had a

3630
02:02:59,679 --> 02:03:01,118
few.

3631
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:04,079
>> I've had quite a few.

3632
02:03:01,118 --> 02:03:05,679
>> It's a it's a horrible feeling when you

3633
02:03:04,079 --> 02:03:07,519
think about it and you go, "What could I

3634
02:03:05,679 --> 02:03:08,239
have done? What could I have said? How

3635
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:11,760
could I have?"

3636
02:03:08,238 --> 02:03:13,118
>> And and so much so we don't know. Um,

3637
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:14,800
my oldest friend in the world, a guy

3638
02:03:13,118 --> 02:03:16,719
named Scott Davis. He and I were at

3639
02:03:14,800 --> 02:03:19,039
Little Red Schoolhouse together. His his

3640
02:03:16,719 --> 02:03:20,480
brother took his life and he was dep he

3641
02:03:19,039 --> 02:03:22,639
suffered from depression. And this was

3642
02:03:20,479 --> 02:03:24,559
in the 80s and we didn't understand it.

3643
02:03:22,639 --> 02:03:26,800
You know, I was with a guy yesterday,

3644
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:29,199
one of his best friends, Ben Testerman.

3645
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:31,520
He was telling me, you know, I I talked

3646
02:03:29,198 --> 02:03:33,519
to him, you know, we I came home, he was

3647
02:03:31,520 --> 02:03:35,440
he's a professional uh tennis player,

3648
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:37,040
and he came home and was talking to

3649
02:03:35,439 --> 02:03:39,118
Jeff, and he said, he said, I just feel

3650
02:03:37,039 --> 02:03:40,639
like I'm in a hole, and nobody gets

3651
02:03:39,118 --> 02:03:42,639
that. And and and people will say to

3652
02:03:40,639 --> 02:03:45,199
them, I hear people all the time say

3653
02:03:42,639 --> 02:03:47,118
>> say, "Hey, uh just get over it, man."

3654
02:03:45,198 --> 02:03:48,799
You know, go for a jog, man. There's

3655
02:03:47,118 --> 02:03:50,158
some freaking chemical imbalance that we

3656
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:52,480
don't Something has happened that's

3657
02:03:50,158 --> 02:03:54,960
jarred them that we don't understand.

3658
02:03:52,479 --> 02:03:57,039
And that is if if there's one avenue

3659
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:59,679
that gets it, you know, and but big

3660
02:03:57,039 --> 02:04:01,359
pharma again, big egg, big farmer, it's

3661
02:03:59,679 --> 02:04:02,399
like hemp. Yeah. Why the hell are we not

3662
02:04:01,359 --> 02:04:03,519
growing hemp, right?

3663
02:04:02,399 --> 02:04:05,198
>> It just drives me crazy.

3664
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:07,040
>> It drives me crazy as well. It doesn't

3665
02:04:05,198 --> 02:04:08,638
make any sense, especially when you find

3666
02:04:07,039 --> 02:04:10,560
out all the stuff that is legal. It's

3667
02:04:08,639 --> 02:04:11,440
like have some consistency. It doesn't

3668
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:12,960
make any sense.

3669
02:04:11,439 --> 02:04:14,238
>> How many people do we lose every year?

3670
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:16,239
And a lot of my friends are in the

3671
02:04:14,238 --> 02:04:18,238
alcohol business, but it's a personal

3672
02:04:16,238 --> 02:04:19,839
responsibility issue with me. You know,

3673
02:04:18,238 --> 02:04:21,118
if you do it, it's your business, but if

3674
02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:22,880
you break the law, Yes.

3675
02:04:21,118 --> 02:04:24,880
>> you know, you're going to the hooch gal.

3676
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:26,000
>> Yeah. And listen, I'm not a big drinker,

3677
02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:27,279
but I think you should be allowed to

3678
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:28,319
drink. I think I don't think there's

3679
02:04:27,279 --> 02:04:29,359
anything wrong with being allowed to

3680
02:04:28,319 --> 02:04:30,479
smoke cigarettes. If that's what you

3681
02:04:29,359 --> 02:04:32,719
want to do, you should be able to do it.

3682
02:04:30,479 --> 02:04:34,238
I believe in freedom. But I don't I

3683
02:04:32,719 --> 02:04:35,760
think we should be consistent. and the

3684
02:04:34,238 --> 02:04:37,519
fact that there's these things that

3685
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:39,039
could help people that are suffering

3686
02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:40,960
from depression, that are suffering from

3687
02:04:39,039 --> 02:04:45,279
opioid addiction, that are suffering

3688
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:46,560
from all sorts of PTSD and CTE and that

3689
02:04:45,279 --> 02:04:48,800
we have this thing that we've known

3690
02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:51,280
about for decades, and the only person

3691
02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:53,360
the courage to try to push an executive

3692
02:04:51,279 --> 02:04:54,399
order is Trump. And if I

3693
02:04:53,359 --> 02:04:57,920
>> again help that

3694
02:04:54,399 --> 02:05:00,399
>> again, he is he is enemy number one with

3695
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:02,239
a lot of those people. Well, I mean,

3696
02:05:00,399 --> 02:05:03,679
thank God he's got the kind of courage

3697
02:05:02,238 --> 02:05:06,079
that he has to push stuff like that

3698
02:05:03,679 --> 02:05:08,158
through because it's going to change a

3699
02:05:06,079 --> 02:05:09,679
lot of humans lives, a lot of veterans

3700
02:05:08,158 --> 02:05:11,439
lives, a lot of first responders, a lot

3701
02:05:09,679 --> 02:05:13,760
of police officers, a lot of people that

3702
02:05:11,439 --> 02:05:15,039
have experienced violent crime and just

3703
02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:17,440
it's going to change a lot of people.

3704
02:05:15,039 --> 02:05:20,238
>> Women that have been abused and all the

3705
02:05:17,439 --> 02:05:21,759
above and they're not like going to be

3706
02:05:20,238 --> 02:05:23,919
walking around like some kind of crazy

3707
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:25,440
zombies thing. It's a it's a very

3708
02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:27,520
controlled thing. And

3709
02:05:25,439 --> 02:05:29,439
>> especially Ibagane. Ibeane is not

3710
02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:31,040
recreational in any shape or form. No

3711
02:05:29,439 --> 02:05:32,158
one's taken it recreationally. I've

3712
02:05:31,039 --> 02:05:34,000
never done it, but I've heard it's a

3713
02:05:32,158 --> 02:05:35,759
terrible experience, but you come out on

3714
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:37,439
the other end of it. And

3715
02:05:35,760 --> 02:05:39,840
>> Rick Perry was also talking about how

3716
02:05:37,439 --> 02:05:41,598
he's experienced natural brain atrophy

3717
02:05:39,840 --> 02:05:43,520
being a man in his 70s. Yeah.

3718
02:05:41,599 --> 02:05:45,199
>> He went and got an examination after he

3719
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:47,599
did it and his brain atrophy had dropped

3720
02:05:45,198 --> 02:05:50,559
by 25%. He went back in 6 months later.

3721
02:05:47,599 --> 02:05:52,400
It was all gone. Just that alone. Wow.

3722
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:54,639
Think about all the elderly people out

3723
02:05:52,399 --> 02:05:55,839
there that are suffering for memory loss

3724
02:05:54,639 --> 02:05:58,560
and all these different issues that

3725
02:05:55,840 --> 02:06:00,960
people have that that could fix them and

3726
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:02,800
that it's literally just one experience

3727
02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:05,198
that you have that takes 12 hours and

3728
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:06,800
when it's over you're better. That's

3729
02:06:05,198 --> 02:06:08,638
crazy. And that we've keep kept this

3730
02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:09,440
from people. There's no chance of people

3731
02:06:08,639 --> 02:06:11,118
being addicted.

3732
02:06:09,439 --> 02:06:12,319
>> The money somebody wants to control.

3733
02:06:11,118 --> 02:06:14,559
>> But at some point in time we've got to

3734
02:06:12,319 --> 02:06:16,079
be human. All these money people have to

3735
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:18,239
realize you're you only have a certain

3736
02:06:16,079 --> 02:06:18,960
amount of time on on this planet. need

3737
02:06:18,238 --> 02:06:20,399
to shut them out

3738
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:22,480
>> and you have an opportunity to make the

3739
02:06:20,399 --> 02:06:25,519
world a better place. And we got to say

3740
02:06:22,479 --> 02:06:28,718
no to people that just want personal

3741
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:30,400
>> money. They just want personal funds

3742
02:06:28,719 --> 02:06:31,599
that going to go to their money that's

3743
02:06:30,399 --> 02:06:32,879
going to go to their bank accounts,

3744
02:06:31,599 --> 02:06:35,840
going to go to their company, their

3745
02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:38,319
corporation, personal benefit, and at

3746
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:40,880
the expense of who knows how many

3747
02:06:38,319 --> 02:06:42,399
people, including literal heroes.

3748
02:06:40,880 --> 02:06:44,000
>> When's enough for those guys?

3749
02:06:42,399 --> 02:06:45,759
>> Yeah. When is enough enough? I mean,

3750
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:47,760
this is the same feeling that I have

3751
02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:50,159
about this disclosure stuff. Like I

3752
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:54,000
don't care what it's going to affect. I

3753
02:06:50,158 --> 02:06:56,479
don't care like if there's real things

3754
02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:59,840
out there that we don't know about. You

3755
02:06:56,479 --> 02:07:01,919
as a human being have no right to keep

3756
02:06:59,840 --> 02:07:05,039
that from the rest of humanity. There's

3757
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:06,880
I don't care what your title is. I don't

3758
02:07:05,039 --> 02:07:09,519
care what three-letter organization you

3759
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:11,199
work for. You're a human being and you

3760
02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:13,360
have an obligation to the other human

3761
02:07:11,198 --> 02:07:15,039
beings to alert us. The fact that

3762
02:07:13,359 --> 02:07:16,078
there's people that have if this is real

3763
02:07:15,039 --> 02:07:17,439
and there's people that have gone to

3764
02:07:16,078 --> 02:07:18,880
their grave with this information that

3765
02:07:17,439 --> 02:07:21,678
would literally change the course of

3766
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:22,400
human history. That's a crime. It's a

3767
02:07:21,679 --> 02:07:24,880
real crime.

3768
02:07:22,399 --> 02:07:26,399
>> Could you imagine the poor countries,

3769
02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:28,078
the people that suffer, you know, the

3770
02:07:26,399 --> 02:07:31,198
deserts and things like that if you

3771
02:07:28,078 --> 02:07:33,118
could you could cool their huts or

3772
02:07:31,198 --> 02:07:35,279
whatever and we get out of these

3773
02:07:33,118 --> 02:07:37,198
worthless wars which are over oil all

3774
02:07:35,279 --> 02:07:39,679
the time, right? And it just it would

3775
02:07:37,198 --> 02:07:40,399
end it all in just a stroke of the pen

3776
02:07:39,679 --> 02:07:42,639
almost.

3777
02:07:40,399 --> 02:07:43,039
>> What do you think it is like when when

3778
02:07:42,639 --> 02:07:46,000
you

3779
02:07:43,039 --> 02:07:47,198
>> I've I go back and forth. I I know it's

3780
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:48,639
a little crazy and this will probably

3781
02:07:47,198 --> 02:07:50,000
cost me action because they've tried to

3782
02:07:48,639 --> 02:07:51,679
use it against me in the past.

3783
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:54,158
>> It will only help you at this point.

3784
02:07:51,679 --> 02:07:56,480
>> Well, I think um I think we need to look

3785
02:07:54,158 --> 02:07:58,000
at these deep water areas. I have a hard

3786
02:07:56,479 --> 02:08:00,399
time believing that something can travel

3787
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:01,359
light years in some suspended state.

3788
02:08:00,399 --> 02:08:03,679
They have to be in some kind of

3789
02:08:01,359 --> 02:08:06,639
suspended state. So, I have a trouble

3790
02:08:03,679 --> 02:08:08,239
with that. Um, those five gentlemen that

3791
02:08:06,639 --> 02:08:10,800
came to my house, four or five, they

3792
02:08:08,238 --> 02:08:13,359
came to my house that time, they were

3793
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:16,000
talking about a moon that was around

3794
02:08:13,359 --> 02:08:18,078
Saturn or Jupiter that they done some

3795
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:20,399
testing with that they that they think

3796
02:08:18,078 --> 02:08:22,158
would be capable of something. And the

3797
02:08:20,399 --> 02:08:23,598
moon was larger than our Earth, of

3798
02:08:22,158 --> 02:08:25,039
course. But, um,

3799
02:08:23,599 --> 02:08:25,520
>> there's a moon that's larger than our

3800
02:08:25,039 --> 02:08:27,359
Earth.

3801
02:08:25,520 --> 02:08:28,719
>> Yeah. Around Jupiter or Saturn, I

3802
02:08:27,359 --> 02:08:29,519
>> That doesn't make any sense. I don't

3803
02:08:28,719 --> 02:08:30,800
think that's correct.

3804
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:32,480
>> Yeah, maybe I'm wrong. Check it out.

3805
02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:34,159
>> Yeah. No, no, no. There's no moons that

3806
02:08:32,479 --> 02:08:35,118
are larger than a planet.

3807
02:08:34,158 --> 02:08:36,559
>> No, it's not.

3808
02:08:35,118 --> 02:08:36,880
>> I don't think so. Our planet.

3809
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:38,320
>> Well,

3810
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:40,319
>> I don't believe that's true.

3811
02:08:38,319 --> 02:08:40,719
>> Circles around it. I don't know. Anyway,

3812
02:08:40,319 --> 02:08:42,319
I'm wrong.

3813
02:08:40,719 --> 02:08:43,599
>> Is that Is that accurate?

3814
02:08:42,319 --> 02:08:45,279
>> Do I not know about this?

3815
02:08:43,599 --> 02:08:46,639
>> Says Earth's moon, though.

3816
02:08:45,279 --> 02:08:48,399
>> Yeah, but there's not I don't believe

3817
02:08:46,639 --> 02:08:49,199
there's a moon out there that's larger

3818
02:08:48,399 --> 02:08:50,479
than our planet.

3819
02:08:49,198 --> 02:08:52,078
>> These guys seem to think that something

3820
02:08:50,479 --> 02:08:54,238
could travel from there. And it was the

3821
02:08:52,078 --> 02:08:56,158
quantum physics. I you know after

3822
02:08:54,238 --> 02:08:57,839
talking to that admiral you know it

3823
02:08:56,158 --> 02:08:59,839
makes me wonder if there is something in

3824
02:08:57,840 --> 02:09:01,599
these deep ocean areas that the old

3825
02:08:59,840 --> 02:09:03,599
cliche we know more about the surface of

3826
02:09:01,599 --> 02:09:06,078
the moon than we do the surface the

3827
02:09:03,599 --> 02:09:08,078
ocean floor in some areas I think is

3828
02:09:06,078 --> 02:09:10,158
true because we're not down there

3829
02:09:08,078 --> 02:09:13,118
>> logically this is that's the one place

3830
02:09:10,158 --> 02:09:14,559
where we don't go and it covers 75% of

3831
02:09:13,118 --> 02:09:17,198
the earth at least right

3832
02:09:14,560 --> 02:09:19,840
>> and if you wanted to hide that would be

3833
02:09:17,198 --> 02:09:22,238
I mean if you were monitoring humans

3834
02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:25,599
let's say that humans are on this path

3835
02:09:22,238 --> 02:09:27,198
of technological evolution and then they

3836
02:09:25,599 --> 02:09:29,920
recognize that humans have split the

3837
02:09:27,198 --> 02:09:33,118
atom. We've developed atomic weapons and

3838
02:09:29,920 --> 02:09:34,880
we've used them and they want to make

3839
02:09:33,118 --> 02:09:36,799
sure that we don't blow up the entire

3840
02:09:34,880 --> 02:09:40,560
planet before we achieve some sort of

3841
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:43,279
enlightenment, before we bypass whatever

3842
02:09:40,560 --> 02:09:45,280
territorial primate

3843
02:09:43,279 --> 02:09:47,118
monkey brain stuff that we have that's

3844
02:09:45,279 --> 02:09:48,238
causing us to have all these wars and do

3845
02:09:47,118 --> 02:09:49,118
all these things that we shouldn't be

3846
02:09:48,238 --> 02:09:50,799
doing.

3847
02:09:49,118 --> 02:09:52,399
>> And that we're on our way. We're getting

3848
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:53,760
better. We're clearly better than we

3849
02:09:52,399 --> 02:09:55,839
were a thousand years ago and better

3850
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:57,679
than we were 3,000 years ago. We're on

3851
02:09:55,840 --> 02:10:00,078
our way to being a more advanced

3852
02:09:57,679 --> 02:10:01,760
civilization, but it's possible that we

3853
02:10:00,078 --> 02:10:03,759
could screw it all up at any point in

3854
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:05,360
time and blow ourselves to smitherines.

3855
02:10:03,760 --> 02:10:06,000
I would imagine they would want to

3856
02:10:05,359 --> 02:10:07,679
monitor us.

3857
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:09,520
>> One maniac in Iran. Yeah.

3858
02:10:07,679 --> 02:10:11,920
>> If they hadn't had stopped that their

3859
02:10:09,520 --> 02:10:13,840
nuclear I'm convinced that they're I

3860
02:10:11,920 --> 02:10:15,199
mean they were out for Armageddon.

3861
02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:16,319
They'd have launched something. They had

3862
02:10:15,198 --> 02:10:18,078
the capabilities to go all the way to

3863
02:10:16,319 --> 02:10:20,719
England. I think if they put one close

3864
02:10:18,078 --> 02:10:22,639
to Israel, it'd be over. And you know,

3865
02:10:20,719 --> 02:10:24,880
people like North Korea who have

3866
02:10:22,639 --> 02:10:26,719
terrible technology on missiles, the

3867
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:28,719
biggest threat there was if they put one

3868
02:10:26,719 --> 02:10:31,520
up in the air that the nuclear cloud

3869
02:10:28,719 --> 02:10:33,599
could blow over China. And so there's

3870
02:10:31,520 --> 02:10:34,719
that could have had some incredible bad

3871
02:10:33,599 --> 02:10:35,840
repercussions.

3872
02:10:34,719 --> 02:10:36,960
>> Well, the fact that there's so many

3873
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:38,480
different countries that have nuclear

3874
02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:39,840
weapons and we're just relying on these

3875
02:10:38,479 --> 02:10:40,319
people to keep their together is

3876
02:10:39,840 --> 02:10:42,239
nuts.

3877
02:10:40,319 --> 02:10:45,279
>> It's nuts. Completely nuts.

3878
02:10:42,238 --> 02:10:48,319
>> And and they're and they're maniacs.

3879
02:10:45,279 --> 02:10:50,319
>> Yeah. Well, it's it makes sense that if

3880
02:10:48,319 --> 02:10:52,479
you were a super advanced life form from

3881
02:10:50,319 --> 02:10:54,559
wherever, that if you wanted to have

3882
02:10:52,479 --> 02:10:56,238
base, some sort of a base where you'd

3883
02:10:54,560 --> 02:10:57,760
monitor us, it would be in the ocean.

3884
02:10:56,238 --> 02:10:59,678
You'd be right there. You could get out

3885
02:10:57,760 --> 02:11:01,119
of it real quick and go to wherever you

3886
02:10:59,679 --> 02:11:02,800
wanted to go.

3887
02:11:01,118 --> 02:11:05,118
>> Orbs was the thing I was thinking of

3888
02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:07,039
earlier. Orbs. That's that's the new

3889
02:11:05,118 --> 02:11:08,799
word that you hear a lot of. And it's

3890
02:11:07,039 --> 02:11:09,840
getting away from saucers and

3891
02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:11,199
>> Well, there's a lot of weird stuff with

3892
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:12,078
orbs where people say that they could

3893
02:11:11,198 --> 02:11:14,399
summon them.

3894
02:11:12,078 --> 02:11:16,000
>> Yeah, I'm I'm not on that. There's

3895
02:11:14,399 --> 02:11:19,279
someone a friend of mine wants me to go

3896
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:21,359
and do it with her. She's she's uh my

3897
02:11:19,279 --> 02:11:22,559
friend's wife is like experienced it and

3898
02:11:21,359 --> 02:11:23,279
she's like, "You got to try it." I'm

3899
02:11:22,560 --> 02:11:24,320
like, "Oh,

3900
02:11:23,279 --> 02:11:25,679
>> now that to me is

3901
02:11:24,319 --> 02:11:27,599
>> I'll I'll say who it is when she comes

3902
02:11:25,679 --> 02:11:28,719
on the podcast next. I don't know. I

3903
02:11:27,599 --> 02:11:29,840
don't know. I don't have permission to

3904
02:11:28,719 --> 02:11:31,679
talk about it. I don't know if she wants

3905
02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:33,440
me to talk about it, but

3906
02:11:31,679 --> 02:11:33,840
>> uh I'm like, "Okay, what do we got to

3907
02:11:33,439 --> 02:11:36,078
do?"

3908
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:37,840
>> Be careful about the sex cult.

3909
02:11:36,078 --> 02:11:38,158
>> Well, she's not. That's not I'm worried

3910
02:11:37,840 --> 02:11:39,520
about that.

3911
02:11:38,158 --> 02:11:40,638
>> I know. You're a good-look guy, Joe.

3912
02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:41,520
>> No, no, no. She's

3913
02:11:40,639 --> 02:11:43,760
>> She might be digging you.

3914
02:11:41,520 --> 02:11:45,199
>> No, no, no, no, no, no. This ain't that.

3915
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:47,679
This is not that. She's been my friend

3916
02:11:45,198 --> 02:11:48,559
for 20 years. It's not She's married to

3917
02:11:47,679 --> 02:11:50,399
my friend. She has kids. Now,

3918
02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:52,239
>> I'm saying the angle that they use.

3919
02:11:50,399 --> 02:11:55,039
>> Well, this lady's not that. She's a

3920
02:11:52,238 --> 02:11:57,359
comedian. This is not that.

3921
02:11:55,039 --> 02:12:00,800
>> Uh is But there are a lot of kooky

3922
02:11:57,359 --> 02:12:03,118
people that do uh have sex cults. That

3923
02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:04,480
the sex cult every cult turns into a sex

3924
02:12:03,118 --> 02:12:05,039
cult, right?

3925
02:12:04,479 --> 02:12:06,879
>> Power.

3926
02:12:05,039 --> 02:12:08,960
>> You know, I almost bought a building in

3927
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:09,599
Austin that was owned by a cult.

3928
02:12:08,960 --> 02:12:11,520
>> No, really?

3929
02:12:09,599 --> 02:12:14,480
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um, the original comedy

3930
02:12:11,520 --> 02:12:16,079
Mothership was uh the original location

3931
02:12:14,479 --> 02:12:18,158
was a place called the One World

3932
02:12:16,078 --> 02:12:21,039
Theater. The One World Theater was owned

3933
02:12:18,158 --> 02:12:22,960
by this cult. And uh I kind of knew

3934
02:12:21,039 --> 02:12:25,279
about it because Ron White told me about

3935
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:28,639
it cuz they had this theater that they

3936
02:12:25,279 --> 02:12:30,559
built to uh so that their leader can

3937
02:12:28,639 --> 02:12:33,039
perform in front of them. And then the

3938
02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:34,800
cult got disbanded. The cult there's a

3939
02:12:33,039 --> 02:12:38,238
documentary about the cult called Holy

3940
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:39,760
Hell. And uh yeah, it's crazy. It's cra

3941
02:12:38,238 --> 02:12:42,479
but it's a sex cult. There was a guy who

3942
02:12:39,760 --> 02:12:44,719
is a, get this, he started out in

3943
02:12:42,479 --> 02:12:47,279
California and he was a gay porn star

3944
02:12:44,719 --> 02:12:48,560
and a hypnotist, which is a wonderful

3945
02:12:47,279 --> 02:12:49,279
combination if you want to start a club

3946
02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:52,639
>> like you do.

3947
02:12:49,279 --> 02:12:54,158
>> Yeah. And also a yoga teacher. So, he

3948
02:12:52,639 --> 02:12:55,840
starts out teaching these people yoga.

3949
02:12:54,158 --> 02:12:56,799
And I don't know if I've ever taken yoga

3950
02:12:55,840 --> 02:12:58,719
before.

3951
02:12:56,800 --> 02:13:00,239
>> I've taken a bunch of yoga classes with

3952
02:12:58,719 --> 02:13:02,158
bunch of different instructors and most

3953
02:13:00,238 --> 02:13:05,439
of them have been amazing, but a few of

3954
02:13:02,158 --> 02:13:06,960
them were very culty. Very culty. And

3955
02:13:05,439 --> 02:13:08,559
there's this one guy that I took classes

3956
02:13:06,960 --> 02:13:10,480
from way back in the day, like more than

3957
02:13:08,560 --> 02:13:12,000
20 years ago. And he was in California

3958
02:13:10,479 --> 02:13:13,359
and he was sleeping with a bunch of the

3959
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:13,920
ladies that were there. And he was kind

3960
02:13:13,359 --> 02:13:16,078
of

3961
02:13:13,920 --> 02:13:18,719
>> he was kind of like a cult guy. Like he

3962
02:13:16,078 --> 02:13:21,359
was like following him into it,

3963
02:13:18,719 --> 02:13:23,520
>> singing singing stupid songs, but it was

3964
02:13:21,359 --> 02:13:26,000
like very full of himself. It was gross.

3965
02:13:23,520 --> 02:13:27,360
He was gross. And you know, everything

3966
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:28,639
wound up falling apart for that guy. But

3967
02:13:27,359 --> 02:13:30,880
>> then he ran for Congress. And

3968
02:13:28,639 --> 02:13:32,639
>> yeah, but there's a lot of these people

3969
02:13:30,880 --> 02:13:34,480
that for whatever reason, that's where

3970
02:13:32,639 --> 02:13:35,840
it all boils down to. They want to have

3971
02:13:34,479 --> 02:13:37,759
sex with everybody's wife and they want

3972
02:13:35,840 --> 02:13:39,760
to run and everything and they want, you

3973
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:41,679
know, run-of-the-mill and have, you

3974
02:13:39,760 --> 02:13:43,280
know, it's very strange. But

3975
02:13:41,679 --> 02:13:44,800
>> that's where the demonic stuff comes in

3976
02:13:43,279 --> 02:13:46,238
with Christians. When you call these

3977
02:13:44,800 --> 02:13:47,440
things down, they

3978
02:13:46,238 --> 02:13:49,439
>> Well, why do you think that that has to

3979
02:13:47,439 --> 02:13:50,479
do with sex cults? Why would the aliens

3980
02:13:49,439 --> 02:13:51,759
have to do with what?

3981
02:13:50,479 --> 02:13:53,678
>> I don't think it's the aliens. I think

3982
02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:58,239
it's um I just think some people are

3983
02:13:53,679 --> 02:13:59,840
abusing the people's they think that

3984
02:13:58,238 --> 02:14:02,959
they're they're using their belief in

3985
02:13:59,840 --> 02:14:03,599
UFOs to draw them in and to some sort of

3986
02:14:02,960 --> 02:14:05,279
thing. And

3987
02:14:03,599 --> 02:14:06,078
>> have you knowledge of this kind of

3988
02:14:05,279 --> 02:14:06,399
stuff?

3989
02:14:06,078 --> 02:14:08,238
>> Yeah.

3990
02:14:06,399 --> 02:14:08,638
>> No, I get all of it. I hear about all of

3991
02:14:08,238 --> 02:14:10,158
it. I

3992
02:14:08,639 --> 02:14:10,639
>> can you name names? Can you talk about

3993
02:14:10,158 --> 02:14:11,839
like

3994
02:14:10,639 --> 02:14:13,118
>> not on the air? Okay.

3995
02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:18,078
>> I don't want to get sued.

3996
02:14:13,118 --> 02:14:20,000
>> Okay. Um, so the underwater bases uh or

3997
02:14:18,078 --> 02:14:21,599
the underwater

3998
02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:24,960
this what an admiral told me. Okay.

3999
02:14:21,599 --> 02:14:26,560
>> So, did he say locations that these

4000
02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:28,000
things are coming from or is there an

4001
02:14:26,560 --> 02:14:29,440
actual physical base that they've

4002
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:32,238
observed?

4003
02:14:29,439 --> 02:14:34,078
He said that the

4004
02:14:32,238 --> 02:14:36,959
they don't have the capabilities to get

4005
02:14:34,078 --> 02:14:39,198
down that deep actually. Um but they did

4006
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:42,239
say that that the sightings were

4007
02:14:39,198 --> 02:14:44,879
happening in about in in I think four of

4008
02:14:42,238 --> 02:14:46,799
the five deep water areas around our

4009
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:48,319
world. And so,

4010
02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:50,400
>> and he didn't have any other, you know,

4011
02:14:48,319 --> 02:14:52,639
and then I was on talking about it and

4012
02:14:50,399 --> 02:14:54,879
somebody said Tim Burchett says that

4013
02:14:52,639 --> 02:14:57,920
they're underwater bases, you know, and

4014
02:14:54,880 --> 02:15:00,239
then um, you know, and they they had uh

4015
02:14:57,920 --> 02:15:02,000
Gates was on the other day and he so he

4016
02:15:00,238 --> 02:15:04,000
was he was briefed. I just told what I

4017
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:07,039
was briefed on and he was briefed by a

4018
02:15:04,000 --> 02:15:09,599
guy that said it was in in uniform that

4019
02:15:07,039 --> 02:15:11,760
said that they were breeding um they

4020
02:15:09,599 --> 02:15:14,400
were capturing people and breeding them

4021
02:15:11,760 --> 02:15:16,800
with with these aliens. And you know, he

4022
02:15:14,399 --> 02:15:19,039
just talked. So yeah, he was on you can

4023
02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:21,360
pull it up. I mean Matt Gates, he talked

4024
02:15:19,039 --> 02:15:22,880
about it. He didn't say he believed it,

4025
02:15:21,359 --> 02:15:24,000
but you know, we talk about we get

4026
02:15:22,880 --> 02:15:26,400
briefed on. That's what I'm talking

4027
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:29,118
about. The scop they here's part of the

4028
02:15:26,399 --> 02:15:30,879
problem, too. They bring you information

4029
02:15:29,118 --> 02:15:32,078
and you go forward with this and this

4030
02:15:30,880 --> 02:15:34,319
is, oh, this is the truth. You know,

4031
02:15:32,078 --> 02:15:36,719
these underwater bases, whatever, and

4032
02:15:34,319 --> 02:15:38,319
then they prove it doesn't exist, and

4033
02:15:36,719 --> 02:15:40,078
then they just discredit you and they

4034
02:15:38,319 --> 02:15:42,399
discredit the whole movement. So that's

4035
02:15:40,078 --> 02:15:45,679
why I'm very cautious anytime anybody

4036
02:15:42,399 --> 02:15:48,638
brings me any information or pictures or

4037
02:15:45,679 --> 02:15:49,920
>> testimony or you know third cousins

4038
02:15:48,639 --> 02:15:52,159
recollection.

4039
02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:53,920
>> Yeah, that is the disinformation thing

4040
02:15:52,158 --> 02:15:55,598
is a problem. They'll tell you some

4041
02:15:53,920 --> 02:15:58,239
truth and mix it in with some really

4042
02:15:55,599 --> 02:15:59,760
kooky stuff and then you say the kooky

4043
02:15:58,238 --> 02:16:01,678
stuff along with it and the kooky stuff

4044
02:15:59,760 --> 02:16:02,159
just discredits everything that's true.

4045
02:16:01,679 --> 02:16:04,239
>> Yeah.

4046
02:16:02,158 --> 02:16:07,679
>> Yeah. And Lazar talked about that too.

4047
02:16:04,238 --> 02:16:09,759
He said they would tell people certain

4048
02:16:07,679 --> 02:16:11,359
things that weren't true and they would

4049
02:16:09,760 --> 02:16:13,440
tell different people different things

4050
02:16:11,359 --> 02:16:15,198
that weren't true. So if the story got

4051
02:16:13,439 --> 02:16:17,919
leaked out, they would know who leaked

4052
02:16:15,198 --> 02:16:19,919
it. It was like a hook. So that anchor

4053
02:16:17,920 --> 02:16:22,158
would be like, "Oh, that was Mike. Mike

4054
02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:24,158
told the story." That's when I've uh I

4055
02:16:22,158 --> 02:16:27,039
always warn our other members when we go

4056
02:16:24,158 --> 02:16:29,839
into the skiff and talk about stuff that

4057
02:16:27,039 --> 02:16:31,679
that you know this that's first time

4058
02:16:29,840 --> 02:16:33,359
I've ever heard that one or or that's

4059
02:16:31,679 --> 02:16:35,120
that's sort of what we heard the last

4060
02:16:33,359 --> 02:16:36,960
time [snorts] and then I said everybody

4061
02:16:35,120 --> 02:16:39,519
just be real careful with it because if

4062
02:16:36,959 --> 02:16:42,318
it if it gets out then they'll come

4063
02:16:39,519 --> 02:16:44,478
after you or if it they want it to get

4064
02:16:42,318 --> 02:16:46,558
out so they can discredit you and make

4065
02:16:44,478 --> 02:16:48,799
you look like a fool. So they talk to

4066
02:16:46,558 --> 02:16:51,199
you about deep water areas where

4067
02:16:48,799 --> 02:16:53,438
sightings occur and so it's just a

4068
02:16:51,200 --> 02:16:55,200
presumption that somewhere in that deep

4069
02:16:53,439 --> 02:16:55,599
water they're emanating from that

4070
02:16:55,200 --> 02:16:58,000
they're

4071
02:16:55,599 --> 02:17:00,719
>> well he also he described um

4072
02:16:58,000 --> 02:17:03,619
>> it is Gat Gates claims whistleblower

4073
02:17:00,718 --> 02:17:04,928
told him of alien human hybrid program.

4074
02:17:03,619 --> 02:17:06,719
[laughter]

4075
02:17:04,929 --> 02:17:08,960
[gasps] The alleged program involved

4076
02:17:06,718 --> 02:17:11,518
captured extraterrestrials mating with

4077
02:17:08,959 --> 02:17:14,879
abducted humans from war zones and

4078
02:17:11,519 --> 02:17:17,519
migrant caravans to create hybrids for

4079
02:17:14,879 --> 02:17:19,598
intergalactic communication. He claimed

4080
02:17:17,519 --> 02:17:22,639
the whistleblower identified between six

4081
02:17:19,599 --> 02:17:24,719
and 12 such facilities in the US and

4082
02:17:22,638 --> 02:17:27,039
sought coordinated congressional visits

4083
02:17:24,718 --> 02:17:29,598
to prevent relocation of the activities

4084
02:17:27,040 --> 02:17:32,399
though Gates did not verify any of the

4085
02:17:29,599 --> 02:17:34,398
information. How could you [laughter]

4086
02:17:32,398 --> 02:17:35,679
ver you going to talk to the hybrids?

4087
02:17:34,398 --> 02:17:37,119
Yeah. Also,

4088
02:17:35,679 --> 02:17:37,920
>> I just want to go I just want to go to

4089
02:17:37,120 --> 02:17:39,200
the t-shirt shop.

4090
02:17:37,920 --> 02:17:40,079
>> Yeah, the pastor's thing that I sent

4091
02:17:39,200 --> 02:17:42,240
you, Jamie.

4092
02:17:40,079 --> 02:17:44,239
>> Yeah, that's bonkers. Think about

4093
02:17:42,239 --> 02:17:46,398
>> I don't buy that. I don't

4094
02:17:44,239 --> 02:17:48,239
>> So, this is a guy. It says his name is

4095
02:17:46,398 --> 02:17:48,558
uh Allan Daido.

4096
02:17:48,239 --> 02:17:52,478
>> Yeah.

4097
02:17:48,558 --> 02:17:55,039
>> And uh it's weird. Capital D, lowercase

4098
02:17:52,478 --> 02:17:56,079
I, capital D, lowercase I

4099
02:17:55,040 --> 02:17:57,599
>> did.

4100
02:17:56,079 --> 02:18:00,000
>> Dido.

4101
02:17:57,599 --> 02:18:01,519
Um after sitting in a private meeting

4102
02:18:00,000 --> 02:18:03,120
with pastors and those connected to

4103
02:18:01,519 --> 02:18:06,478
these investigations, the message was

4104
02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:08,800
clear. UFO and UAP disclosure is coming.

4105
02:18:06,478 --> 02:18:10,799
Pastors must prepare their people now.

4106
02:18:08,799 --> 02:18:12,799
Silence is not an option. Well, what

4107
02:18:10,799 --> 02:18:15,759
does that mean? Like what are they

4108
02:18:12,799 --> 02:18:16,478
preparing the people for? Like what why

4109
02:18:15,760 --> 02:18:18,478
would they bring

4110
02:18:16,478 --> 02:18:19,760
>> a group of pastors I've never heard of?

4111
02:18:18,478 --> 02:18:21,840
You know how

4112
02:18:19,760 --> 02:18:23,359
>> I do I think it is. I think if he'd have

4113
02:18:21,840 --> 02:18:24,079
brought anybody in, he brought Franklin

4114
02:18:23,359 --> 02:18:25,840
Graham in.

4115
02:18:24,079 --> 02:18:26,959
>> Is this gentleman a pastor himself?

4116
02:18:25,840 --> 02:18:28,639
Click on his uh

4117
02:18:26,959 --> 02:18:30,239
>> Yeah, he run Well, I mean, he also has a

4118
02:18:28,638 --> 02:18:31,358
show which is uh

4119
02:18:30,239 --> 02:18:33,119
>> Of course he does.

4120
02:18:31,359 --> 02:18:35,040
>> Of course he does. was the

4121
02:18:33,120 --> 02:18:36,880
>> Oh, so his show is about disclosure,

4122
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:38,399
>> the Revival Nation Church or something.

4123
02:18:36,879 --> 02:18:39,839
No, no, I don't know that. This is just

4124
02:18:38,398 --> 02:18:41,920
what these clips were coming around.

4125
02:18:39,840 --> 02:18:45,200
>> Can you click on his bio, please? Like

4126
02:18:41,920 --> 02:18:47,599
what it clicks what it says. Equipping

4127
02:18:45,200 --> 02:18:51,280
end time believers for the next great

4128
02:18:47,599 --> 02:18:52,558
awakening. Oh boy. [laughter] I also I

4129
02:18:51,280 --> 02:18:54,800
would warn people that think we're in

4130
02:18:52,558 --> 02:18:56,718
the end times. The Bible is pretty clear

4131
02:18:54,799 --> 02:18:58,959
about that. It says that they don't even

4132
02:18:56,718 --> 02:19:00,000
the angels in heaven don't even know

4133
02:18:58,959 --> 02:19:01,199
>> when the end times are,

4134
02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:02,879
>> when the end's coming. So,

4135
02:19:01,200 --> 02:19:04,399
>> yeah. Well, that's I'm always very

4136
02:19:02,879 --> 02:19:05,759
suspicious of people that say the end

4137
02:19:04,398 --> 02:19:07,679
times are coming. I remember when we

4138
02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:08,639
were I was living in LA, there was a a

4139
02:19:07,679 --> 02:19:10,558
billboard. Do you remember those

4140
02:19:08,638 --> 02:19:12,478
billboards, Jamie? Where there was the

4141
02:19:10,558 --> 02:19:14,318
guy was like saying a very specific date

4142
02:19:12,478 --> 02:19:15,760
where the the end was coming. The

4143
02:19:14,318 --> 02:19:17,119
rapture was going to and then it didn't

4144
02:19:15,760 --> 02:19:18,559
happen. He's like, I got some bad

4145
02:19:17,120 --> 02:19:21,200
information. It's coming soon.

4146
02:19:18,558 --> 02:19:22,959
>> Yeah, I did my math wrong. I remember I

4147
02:19:21,200 --> 02:19:25,120
I see those all the time. I just shake

4148
02:19:22,959 --> 02:19:28,799
my head. It ain't happening.

4149
02:19:25,120 --> 02:19:31,200
>> Yeah, that's the guy. May 21st, 2011,

4150
02:19:28,799 --> 02:19:32,718
cry mightily unto God. Judgement day. Oh

4151
02:19:31,200 --> 02:19:35,359
boy. And it's look at look at the gold

4152
02:19:32,718 --> 02:19:37,279
stamp. The Bible guarantees it.

4153
02:19:35,359 --> 02:19:38,880
>> By the way, I read the Bible. I never

4154
02:19:37,280 --> 02:19:40,000
read anything where there's a guarantee

4155
02:19:38,879 --> 02:19:40,638
of this day.

4156
02:19:40,000 --> 02:19:42,718
>> Yeah.

4157
02:19:40,638 --> 02:19:44,638
>> May [snorts] 21st,

4158
02:19:42,718 --> 02:19:47,438
2011.

4159
02:19:44,638 --> 02:19:48,959
>> Yeah. Um, so when they tell you things,

4160
02:19:47,439 --> 02:19:51,280
is there anything that they tell you

4161
02:19:48,959 --> 02:19:53,199
that you could tell us?

4162
02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:54,560
Like how much of what they told you is

4163
02:19:53,200 --> 02:19:55,920
like completely top secret that you're

4164
02:19:54,559 --> 02:19:56,318
not allowed to say until they disclose

4165
02:19:55,920 --> 02:19:57,120
it?

4166
02:19:56,318 --> 02:19:58,239
>> A lot of it.

4167
02:19:57,120 --> 02:19:59,760
>> A lot of it. Yeah.

4168
02:19:58,239 --> 02:20:01,199
>> Is there anything that really disturbs

4169
02:19:59,760 --> 02:20:03,359
you?

4170
02:20:01,200 --> 02:20:06,560
Yeah, we had one meeting and it got into

4171
02:20:03,359 --> 02:20:11,680
some u stuff that they were talking

4172
02:20:06,559 --> 02:20:13,920
about and the treatment of people and um

4173
02:20:11,680 --> 02:20:15,439
the capabilities and this was

4174
02:20:13,920 --> 02:20:17,760
>> the treatment of people by these

4175
02:20:15,439 --> 02:20:19,280
supposed extraterrest

4176
02:20:17,760 --> 02:20:21,359
but but that were we're were trying to

4177
02:20:19,280 --> 02:20:23,280
come forward with this stuff but also

4178
02:20:21,359 --> 02:20:28,159
yeah they told me some pretty creepy

4179
02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:29,439
stuff. So, I would um again,

4180
02:20:28,159 --> 02:20:31,520
you know, I bring this out and then

4181
02:20:29,439 --> 02:20:34,559
they're busting my ass for it. But the

4182
02:20:31,520 --> 02:20:36,159
>> What do you think is going on? Like, so

4183
02:20:34,559 --> 02:20:38,959
>> I think it's a cover up. I think there's

4184
02:20:36,159 --> 02:20:40,799
something else out there. I do not think

4185
02:20:38,959 --> 02:20:42,639
we're the best that God can do. And I

4186
02:20:40,799 --> 02:20:46,159
really just don't know, Joe. There's so

4187
02:20:42,639 --> 02:20:49,039
many options. It could be. um one of

4188
02:20:46,159 --> 02:20:53,039
these groups that met with me, they they

4189
02:20:49,040 --> 02:20:54,960
described several different um types of

4190
02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:55,760
beings and they go through all of them.

4191
02:20:54,959 --> 02:20:57,358
How you know

4192
02:20:55,760 --> 02:20:59,359
>> how many different types of beings?

4193
02:20:57,359 --> 02:21:01,120
>> I don't know, three, four, five. I don't

4194
02:20:59,359 --> 02:21:02,720
know. I It just changes. I don't I don't

4195
02:21:01,120 --> 02:21:04,479
get caught up in that, you know. And I

4196
02:21:02,719 --> 02:21:08,559
tell our guys, I say, "Look, here's the

4197
02:21:04,478 --> 02:21:10,318
argument. Just say I just want to know

4198
02:21:08,559 --> 02:21:12,239
what we're spending tens of millions of

4199
02:21:10,318 --> 02:21:14,318
dollars on. That's all. I don't care if

4200
02:21:12,239 --> 02:21:16,000
I I don't it's not about little green

4201
02:21:14,318 --> 02:21:17,680
man. It's not about flying saucers. It's

4202
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:20,000
what are we spending this money on if

4203
02:21:17,680 --> 02:21:22,159
they say they don't exist? That should

4204
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:23,600
be the answer the question and then and

4205
02:21:22,159 --> 02:21:27,280
the answer will come from that.

4206
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:28,960
>> Okay. So, if they do exist,

4207
02:21:27,280 --> 02:21:29,600
when you say you think it's a cover up,

4208
02:21:28,959 --> 02:21:31,839
what do you think?

4209
02:21:29,600 --> 02:21:33,760
>> I think I think I think Well, I think

4210
02:21:31,840 --> 02:21:36,079
they really do exist. And I don't think

4211
02:21:33,760 --> 02:21:38,478
that there's such a such a finite group

4212
02:21:36,079 --> 02:21:40,000
of people that actually know it. And um

4213
02:21:38,478 --> 02:21:41,679
and you got a lot of charlatans out

4214
02:21:40,000 --> 02:21:43,520
there that say they know it and they're

4215
02:21:41,680 --> 02:21:44,159
out there, they're selling memberships,

4216
02:21:43,520 --> 02:21:48,079
>> of course,

4217
02:21:44,159 --> 02:21:48,799
>> but um I I think there's there's

4218
02:21:48,079 --> 02:21:50,719
something to it.

4219
02:21:48,799 --> 02:21:52,559
>> I'm always very suspicious of anybody

4220
02:21:50,719 --> 02:21:54,559
who speaks definitively about something

4221
02:21:52,559 --> 02:21:56,079
like that where you can't possibly know

4222
02:21:54,559 --> 02:21:56,639
and then they don't offer up any proof

4223
02:21:56,079 --> 02:21:58,000
of this.

4224
02:21:56,639 --> 02:21:59,519
>> They say, "Well, I've seen the

4225
02:21:58,000 --> 02:22:00,318
pictures." Well, bring me the dad gum

4226
02:21:59,520 --> 02:22:02,079
pictures. Yeah,

4227
02:22:00,318 --> 02:22:03,359
>> but I have seen some pictures and I have

4228
02:22:02,079 --> 02:22:04,639
seen video and I have

4229
02:22:03,359 --> 02:22:07,520
>> What's the most convincing thing that

4230
02:22:04,639 --> 02:22:08,799
you've seen?

4231
02:22:07,520 --> 02:22:10,560
I don't know. Those guys came out the

4232
02:22:08,799 --> 02:22:13,840
house. That was pretty convincing. Yeah,

4233
02:22:10,559 --> 02:22:14,879
that was before the um before the

4234
02:22:13,840 --> 02:22:17,920
hearings that we had.

4235
02:22:14,879 --> 02:22:20,478
>> How clear was the video?

4236
02:22:17,920 --> 02:22:22,879
>> Clear as a screen. I mean, it was pretty

4237
02:22:20,478 --> 02:22:26,537
clear. Um you know, and that was preAI.

4238
02:22:22,879 --> 02:22:27,759
AI was such a new thing. And then it

4239
02:22:26,538 --> 02:22:32,640
[clears throat] fit in with what the tic

4240
02:22:27,760 --> 02:22:34,880
tac videos were. And the um the heat

4241
02:22:32,639 --> 02:22:36,799
signature is what always what I always

4242
02:22:34,879 --> 02:22:38,639
thought was unusual cuz it had to have a

4243
02:22:36,799 --> 02:22:40,559
heat signature but it didn't.

4244
02:22:38,639 --> 02:22:41,119
>> It's a zero point energy whatever that

4245
02:22:40,559 --> 02:22:41,600
is.

4246
02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:43,600
>> Right.

4247
02:22:41,600 --> 02:22:46,800
>> And then

4248
02:22:43,600 --> 02:22:48,720
the just the quantum physics angle of it

4249
02:22:46,799 --> 02:22:51,358
is mindblowing to me.

4250
02:22:48,719 --> 02:22:53,599
>> And you have no knowledge of what's

4251
02:22:51,359 --> 02:22:54,720
supposed to be released because it where

4252
02:22:53,600 --> 02:22:56,479
today's Wednesday.

4253
02:22:54,719 --> 02:22:58,079
>> I'm going to know tomorrow at 3.

4254
02:22:56,478 --> 02:22:59,920
>> Tomorrow at 3 p.m. Is that when the

4255
02:22:58,079 --> 02:23:01,760
world knows? No, I think they're going

4256
02:22:59,920 --> 02:23:03,359
to ask me. Just give me a little bit of

4257
02:23:01,760 --> 02:23:04,960
it. But I got a feeling they're not

4258
02:23:03,359 --> 02:23:07,520
going to tell me much. I got a feeling

4259
02:23:04,959 --> 02:23:09,519
they're not going to tell America much.

4260
02:23:07,520 --> 02:23:10,640
>> When is it supposed to be disclosed?

4261
02:23:09,520 --> 02:23:12,079
This week,

4262
02:23:10,639 --> 02:23:13,439
>> whatever they're going to disclose.

4263
02:23:12,079 --> 02:23:15,359
>> I don't know. I don't know. But if

4264
02:23:13,439 --> 02:23:17,200
they're going to disclose it to us, then

4265
02:23:15,359 --> 02:23:18,720
it'll be out right as soon as they hang

4266
02:23:17,200 --> 02:23:21,120
up the phone with some guys.

4267
02:23:18,719 --> 02:23:22,959
>> Do you feel an obligation if they don't

4268
02:23:21,120 --> 02:23:24,800
release it to try to tell people what

4269
02:23:22,959 --> 02:23:28,478
you know?

4270
02:23:24,799 --> 02:23:30,318
>> I do. I do. I do. I think it's um cuz I

4271
02:23:28,478 --> 02:23:35,199
don't like it if they're lying to us.

4272
02:23:30,318 --> 02:23:36,559
And I I again I don't think Trump knows.

4273
02:23:35,200 --> 02:23:38,640
I mean these people have kept this stuff

4274
02:23:36,559 --> 02:23:40,719
secret. I here's another thing. I was in

4275
02:23:38,639 --> 02:23:42,079
one meeting and a guy said I said what

4276
02:23:40,719 --> 02:23:44,478
about the president on this? And he said

4277
02:23:42,079 --> 02:23:47,280
the president's on a need to know basis.

4278
02:23:44,478 --> 02:23:52,239
Now that's a federal employee saying

4279
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:54,239
that he or she has

4280
02:23:52,239 --> 02:23:58,079
information that the president is not

4281
02:23:54,239 --> 02:23:59,600
allowed to see. And I I I just was a

4282
02:23:58,079 --> 02:24:01,039
gasp, man. I said, you know, you that's

4283
02:23:59,600 --> 02:24:04,079
the kind of crap you see on some the

4284
02:24:01,040 --> 02:24:06,000
sci-fi network or something. But that

4285
02:24:04,079 --> 02:24:07,680
>> that'd be the title of my book. I mean,

4286
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:09,600
that that that that ought to tell you

4287
02:24:07,680 --> 02:24:13,040
right there that that this thing is a is

4288
02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:15,280
a cover up. And I don't and I and it's

4289
02:24:13,040 --> 02:24:17,040
kind of like MK Ultra. I don't think

4290
02:24:15,280 --> 02:24:19,439
we're going to get the they're not going

4291
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:20,800
to tell us everything.

4292
02:24:19,439 --> 02:24:23,840
I really don't. I don't think they're

4293
02:24:20,799 --> 02:24:25,599
going to give us

4294
02:24:23,840 --> 02:24:27,040
half of what we should get.

4295
02:24:25,600 --> 02:24:28,239
>> But you think we're gonna get something?

4296
02:24:27,040 --> 02:24:30,000
>> I think we're gonna get something.

4297
02:24:28,239 --> 02:24:31,199
>> Do you know how put off? Do you know how

4298
02:24:30,000 --> 02:24:31,680
put off?

4299
02:24:31,200 --> 02:24:33,439
>> Do what?

4300
02:24:31,680 --> 02:24:33,840
>> Do you know how put off? You know who he

4301
02:24:33,439 --> 02:24:34,960
is?

4302
02:24:33,840 --> 02:24:36,559
>> I thought you saying I thought you know

4303
02:24:34,959 --> 02:24:38,000
how put off you are right now. I was

4304
02:24:36,559 --> 02:24:39,840
like [laughter] how put off are you?

4305
02:24:38,000 --> 02:24:41,200
>> How put off was in the documentary as

4306
02:24:39,840 --> 02:24:42,960
well. He was in the age of disclosure

4307
02:24:41,200 --> 02:24:44,079
and he was a guest on the podcast and

4308
02:24:42,959 --> 02:24:46,239
one of the things that he told me is

4309
02:24:44,079 --> 02:24:48,398
that during the Bush administration they

4310
02:24:46,239 --> 02:24:51,680
brought in him and a bunch of other

4311
02:24:48,398 --> 02:24:54,478
scientists and thought leaders and what

4312
02:24:51,680 --> 02:24:57,439
was explained to him was that they are

4313
02:24:54,478 --> 02:25:00,799
considering disclosure and that there

4314
02:24:57,439 --> 02:25:02,639
have been visits of these super

4315
02:25:00,799 --> 02:25:06,239
intelligent beings from somewhere else

4316
02:25:02,639 --> 02:25:08,959
that we have retrieved crashed vehicles

4317
02:25:06,239 --> 02:25:10,879
and that we have biological remains.

4318
02:25:08,959 --> 02:25:14,398
That's correct. We are talking about

4319
02:25:10,879 --> 02:25:16,639
disclosing. We would like you to make a

4320
02:25:14,398 --> 02:25:18,799
list of all the ways that it'll

4321
02:25:16,639 --> 02:25:20,159
negatively affect society and all the

4322
02:25:18,799 --> 02:25:23,039
ways that it'll positively affect

4323
02:25:20,159 --> 02:25:25,520
society and attach a numerical value to

4324
02:25:23,040 --> 02:25:28,560
these things. And they all did it. And

4325
02:25:25,520 --> 02:25:31,040
every one of them said the negatives far

4326
02:25:28,559 --> 02:25:32,959
outweigh the positives in terms of the

4327
02:25:31,040 --> 02:25:34,880
impact on government, the impact on the

4328
02:25:32,959 --> 02:25:36,478
economy, religion, all the all these

4329
02:25:34,879 --> 02:25:38,879
different factors and how the how it

4330
02:25:36,478 --> 02:25:40,478
would disrupt society. And in the end,

4331
02:25:38,879 --> 02:25:42,639
they decided not to disclose.

4332
02:25:40,478 --> 02:25:43,519
>> Yeah, I've heard that many times. I I

4333
02:25:42,639 --> 02:25:44,239
just don't buy it.

4334
02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:46,159
>> You don't buy it?

4335
02:25:44,239 --> 02:25:48,000
>> I don't buy it. I mean, I I don't doubt

4336
02:25:46,159 --> 02:25:49,680
what he's saying. I know all those guys

4337
02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:50,959
now that you mentioned I was in movie,

4338
02:25:49,680 --> 02:25:53,520
of course, and I've met them all

4339
02:25:50,959 --> 02:25:56,159
afterwards, but I don't I just don't buy

4340
02:25:53,520 --> 02:25:57,439
that. I think we should know. Let us

4341
02:25:56,159 --> 02:26:00,398
know. Let us decide.

4342
02:25:57,439 --> 02:26:02,800
>> No, I believe that, too. But I I wonder

4343
02:26:00,398 --> 02:26:05,920
what that meeting was like and whether

4344
02:26:02,799 --> 02:26:07,119
or not they were being truthful to these

4345
02:26:05,920 --> 02:26:07,760
people or whether it was a thought

4346
02:26:07,120 --> 02:26:09,600
experiment.

4347
02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:10,478
>> Allegedly, when they told Jimmy Carter,

4348
02:26:09,600 --> 02:26:11,520
he cried.

4349
02:26:10,478 --> 02:26:13,840
>> That's what I heard, too.

4350
02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:15,359
>> I was It was

4351
02:26:13,840 --> 02:26:16,000
>> I won't go into all of it, but I was in

4352
02:26:15,359 --> 02:26:17,680
a meeting.

4353
02:26:16,000 --> 02:26:19,040
>> What would make him cry?

4354
02:26:17,680 --> 02:26:20,559
>> I don't know. I know he's a very

4355
02:26:19,040 --> 02:26:22,399
sensitive guy, but

4356
02:26:20,559 --> 02:26:23,359
>> I understand, but I mean like I cried

4357
02:26:22,398 --> 02:26:25,439
when I saw Old Yeller.

4358
02:26:23,359 --> 02:26:28,159
>> Yeah, I did too. [laughter] Still cry.

4359
02:26:25,439 --> 02:26:30,720
But they um uh he he had seen a UFO, you

4360
02:26:28,159 --> 02:26:32,478
know, he was on a Navy sub, nuclear sub,

4361
02:26:30,719 --> 02:26:34,000
and um I don't know if he saw that when

4362
02:26:32,478 --> 02:26:36,318
he was on the sub or not. I can't

4363
02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:37,600
remember, but you know, here he said,

4364
02:26:36,318 --> 02:26:38,478
"That guy, he's president of the United

4365
02:26:37,600 --> 02:26:40,159
States." And he

4366
02:26:38,478 --> 02:26:43,199
>> they told him something and supposedly

4367
02:26:40,159 --> 02:26:45,600
he cried. And I was in the meeting and I

4368
02:26:43,200 --> 02:26:47,359
uh that was brought up and the guy that

4369
02:26:45,600 --> 02:26:50,318
they were trying to trip up gave the

4370
02:26:47,359 --> 02:26:55,520
date of that meeting and he said you can

4371
02:26:50,318 --> 02:26:57,920
go to the Carter Library and pull up

4372
02:26:55,520 --> 02:27:01,200
that date and you'll know there's one

4373
02:26:57,920 --> 02:27:03,359
person they omitted their name which who

4374
02:27:01,200 --> 02:27:04,880
knows who that was but they list the the

4375
02:27:03,359 --> 02:27:06,960
meeting and where he was when he got

4376
02:27:04,879 --> 02:27:09,119
that that briefing.

4377
02:27:06,959 --> 02:27:11,599
>> Wow.

4378
02:27:09,120 --> 02:27:12,399
So, I don't know. I don't know.

4379
02:27:11,600 --> 02:27:13,840
>> I don't know either.

4380
02:27:12,398 --> 02:27:17,039
>> I don't know if that's true or not. You

4381
02:27:13,840 --> 02:27:18,799
know, they also say Nixon pulled up one

4382
02:27:17,040 --> 02:27:19,920
night to Jackie Gleason's and took

4383
02:27:18,799 --> 02:27:20,639
>> I know that story.

4384
02:27:19,920 --> 02:27:22,000
>> Yeah.

4385
02:27:20,639 --> 02:27:24,559
>> Well, you know, Jackie Gleason built

4386
02:27:22,000 --> 02:27:25,359
that crazy house in upstate New York. Do

4387
02:27:24,559 --> 02:27:25,840
you know about that?

4388
02:27:25,359 --> 02:27:27,680
>> Do not?

4389
02:27:25,840 --> 02:27:30,478
>> Oh, you don't? It was for sale a while

4390
02:27:27,680 --> 02:27:32,720
back. Um Jackie Gleason essentially

4391
02:27:30,478 --> 02:27:34,318
built a UFO house. He built a house that

4392
02:27:32,719 --> 02:27:36,478
looked like a flying saucer. No kidding.

4393
02:27:34,318 --> 02:27:38,239
Yeah. It was for sale fairly recently

4394
02:27:36,478 --> 02:27:38,639
within the last few years. That's the

4395
02:27:38,239 --> 02:27:39,680
house.

4396
02:27:38,639 --> 02:27:41,279
>> Oh crap.

4397
02:27:39,680 --> 02:27:44,880
>> That's a house Jackie Gleason built

4398
02:27:41,280 --> 02:27:46,479
after supposedly Richard Nixon took him.

4399
02:27:44,879 --> 02:27:48,639
So supposedly the story was they were

4400
02:27:46,478 --> 02:27:50,239
golfing, out drinking, and Richard

4401
02:27:48,639 --> 02:27:52,478
Nixon's like, "Hey, you want to see some

4402
02:27:50,239 --> 02:27:57,119
shit?" And then [laughter] he took him

4403
02:27:52,478 --> 02:27:59,358
to see this UFO somewhere on some base.

4404
02:27:57,120 --> 02:28:01,120
You know, the story is very vague. It's

4405
02:27:59,359 --> 02:28:04,079
hard to tell what what actually

4406
02:28:01,120 --> 02:28:06,160
happened, but apparently people that

4407
02:28:04,079 --> 02:28:08,559
knew Jackie Gleason said it profoundly

4408
02:28:06,159 --> 02:28:10,239
affected him. And Jackie Gleason became

4409
02:28:08,559 --> 02:28:12,079
obsessed with UFOs afterwards. And then

4410
02:28:10,239 --> 02:28:15,520
he had this house built

4411
02:28:12,079 --> 02:28:17,280
>> the shape of a UFO, which is I mean, not

4412
02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:18,159
evidence, but weird.

4413
02:28:17,280 --> 02:28:18,720
>> That's very weird.

4414
02:28:18,159 --> 02:28:21,680
>> Weird.

4415
02:28:18,719 --> 02:28:23,358
>> Yeah. And Nixon um Nixon was a very

4416
02:28:21,680 --> 02:28:24,960
serious guy. That would have been a that

4417
02:28:23,359 --> 02:28:26,800
would have been an interesting uh

4418
02:28:24,959 --> 02:28:27,599
>> Yeah. scenario

4419
02:28:26,799 --> 02:28:29,119
>> indeed.

4420
02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:31,359
>> But I

4421
02:28:29,120 --> 02:28:32,880
I just wish they'd

4422
02:28:31,359 --> 02:28:36,640
show us everything.

4423
02:28:32,879 --> 02:28:38,639
>> Yeah, me too. Well, we'll see. We'll see

4424
02:28:36,639 --> 02:28:39,920
what what comes out this week. But, uh,

4425
02:28:38,639 --> 02:28:41,119
thank you very much for being here. I

4426
02:28:39,920 --> 02:28:41,760
really appreciate it. It was great to

4427
02:28:41,120 --> 02:28:43,040
talk to you.

4428
02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:43,760
>> I wish I could get you to move to East

4429
02:28:43,040 --> 02:28:44,800
Tennessee.

4430
02:28:43,760 --> 02:28:46,960
>> Why?

4431
02:28:44,799 --> 02:28:48,719
>> Well, we saved Texas ass, man. You know,

4432
02:28:46,959 --> 02:28:49,358
Davy Crockett. Yeah, Davy Crockett back

4433
02:28:48,719 --> 02:28:50,639
in the day.

4434
02:28:49,359 --> 02:28:52,399
>> Yeah. He said, um, he [snorts] was in

4435
02:28:50,639 --> 02:28:54,478
Congress and got beat. He was a state

4436
02:28:52,398 --> 02:28:57,039
legislator and he got he got beat in the

4437
02:28:54,478 --> 02:28:59,199
Congress. He said, "As for," let's see,

4438
02:28:57,040 --> 02:29:00,800
see, his quote was, "As for me, he says,

4439
02:28:59,200 --> 02:29:03,359
"For you all, you can all go to hell. As

4440
02:29:00,799 --> 02:29:05,438
for me, I'm going to Texas." He got He

4441
02:29:03,359 --> 02:29:06,880
goes to Alamo gets killed. But

4442
02:29:05,438 --> 02:29:08,559
[laughter] he parlayed that into a

4443
02:29:06,879 --> 02:29:09,839
Disney special, so he kind of evened

4444
02:29:08,559 --> 02:29:10,478
out. Yeah.

4445
02:29:09,840 --> 02:29:11,040
>> Sort of.

4446
02:29:10,478 --> 02:29:12,879
>> Sort of.

4447
02:29:11,040 --> 02:29:14,720
>> Sort of. I'm very partial to Texas.

4448
02:29:12,879 --> 02:29:15,759
>> Well, all right. We're low tax state. I

4449
02:29:14,719 --> 02:29:17,599
know. Texas low.

4450
02:29:15,760 --> 02:29:19,680
>> I just love it here. I love a lot of

4451
02:29:17,600 --> 02:29:20,960
things about Tech. I love the people.

4452
02:29:19,680 --> 02:29:23,040
It's a fun place to be.

4453
02:29:20,959 --> 02:29:24,398
>> Yeah. My buddy Chip Roy, he's leaving.

4454
02:29:23,040 --> 02:29:27,040
He's from down here. A bunch of these

4455
02:29:24,398 --> 02:29:27,599
guys in Congress are down here that are

4456
02:29:27,040 --> 02:29:28,880
leaving

4457
02:29:27,600 --> 02:29:32,079
>> and they're going to Tennessee.

4458
02:29:28,879 --> 02:29:33,679
>> No, they're coming down here. He's a

4459
02:29:32,079 --> 02:29:35,039
down here. But no, they're just they're

4460
02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:35,760
all coming home. They're tired of

4461
02:29:35,040 --> 02:29:36,080
Washington.

4462
02:29:35,760 --> 02:29:37,760
>> Yeah.

4463
02:29:36,079 --> 02:29:38,799
>> Well, Latrell told me I said, "Why are

4464
02:29:37,760 --> 02:29:39,280
you leaving Congress, dude?" And he

4465
02:29:38,799 --> 02:29:40,879
says,

4466
02:29:39,280 --> 02:29:42,000
>> "Want to spend time with my family, my

4467
02:29:40,879 --> 02:29:44,079
kids. They're growing up." And I was

4468
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:46,318
like, "Can't argue with that, brother."

4469
02:29:44,079 --> 02:29:49,200
>> Yeah. And the pressure of Congress, the

4470
02:29:46,318 --> 02:29:50,719
pressure of Washington, DC is just so

4471
02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:52,240
odd. I've only been there a couple

4472
02:29:50,719 --> 02:29:54,000
times, but every time I'm there when I

4473
02:29:52,239 --> 02:29:56,000
leave, I'm like, "Yuck."

4474
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:57,520
>> It's like when I used to, you know, I

4475
02:29:56,000 --> 02:30:00,159
used to minister [snorts] to a guy in

4476
02:29:57,520 --> 02:30:02,239
prison and when you'd leave Brushy

4477
02:30:00,159 --> 02:30:04,478
Mountain State Prison, you I I called it

4478
02:30:02,239 --> 02:30:06,159
that institutional smell. Whatever they

4479
02:30:04,478 --> 02:30:08,719
used to clean that place, you just smell

4480
02:30:06,159 --> 02:30:10,398
like it for you could smell it in your

4481
02:30:08,719 --> 02:30:12,318
nose for days later. And that's

4482
02:30:10,398 --> 02:30:13,439
Washington DC. It's a It's more of a

4483
02:30:12,318 --> 02:30:15,760
filthy smell.

4484
02:30:13,439 --> 02:30:18,880
>> Yeah, it's a weird place. I guess it's

4485
02:30:15,760 --> 02:30:20,960
necessary supposedly, but it's it's odd

4486
02:30:18,879 --> 02:30:21,358
to visit. But I appreciate people like

4487
02:30:20,959 --> 02:30:22,559
you.

4488
02:30:21,359 --> 02:30:23,760
>> Thank you, brother. I appreciate you.

4489
02:30:22,559 --> 02:30:25,199
And I appreciate you doing the right

4490
02:30:23,760 --> 02:30:27,200
thing, especially for our veterans and

4491
02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:28,800
on disclosure and all the other hot

4492
02:30:27,200 --> 02:30:30,399
button issues.

4493
02:30:28,799 --> 02:30:31,840
>> And you got Hecklefish right there.

4494
02:30:30,398 --> 02:30:33,760
>> I do. Hecklefish.

4495
02:30:31,840 --> 02:30:36,639
>> He said my name on his show one time.

4496
02:30:33,760 --> 02:30:38,239
Yeah, I love that show. He said my name

4497
02:30:36,639 --> 02:30:40,239
one time. He said it wrong, but he's a

4498
02:30:38,239 --> 02:30:42,239
Yankee, so I guess it's okay. It's like

4499
02:30:40,239 --> 02:30:43,680
Bersett or something. I don't know.

4500
02:30:42,239 --> 02:30:48,119
>> Thank you very much. It was awesome. All

4501
02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:48,120
right. [music] Thank you. Bye everybody.

4502
02:30:51,549 --> 02:30:53,568
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