1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,500 ARTHUR BROOKS: You need to be bored. 2 00:00:01,500 --> 00:00:03,560 You will have less meaning and you 3 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,778 will be more depressed if you never are bored. 4 00:00:05,777 --> 00:00:07,069 I mean, it couldn't be clearer. 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:14,679 Let me give you the good side of boredom in general. 6 00:00:14,679 --> 00:00:18,600 Boredom is a tendency for us to not be occupied 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,679 otherwise cognitively, which switches over our thinking 8 00:00:22,679 --> 00:00:24,980 system to use a part of our brain 9 00:00:24,980 --> 00:00:27,060 that's called the default mode network. 10 00:00:27,059 --> 00:00:27,980 That sounds fancy. 11 00:00:27,980 --> 00:00:28,740 It's really not. 12 00:00:28,739 --> 00:00:30,197 The default mode network is a bunch 13 00:00:30,198 --> 00:00:32,439 of structures in your brain that switch 14 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:35,560 on when you don't have anything else to think about. 15 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,480 So you forgot your phone and you're sitting 16 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,599 at a light, for example. 17 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,480 That's when your default mode network goes on. 18 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:43,659 We don't like it. 19 00:00:43,659 --> 00:00:45,679 My colleague in the psychology department 20 00:00:45,679 --> 00:00:48,359 here at Harvard, Dan Gilbert, he did experiments 21 00:00:48,359 --> 00:00:50,839 where people had to sit in a room for 15 22 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,060 minutes with instructions to do absolutely nothing, 23 00:00:53,060 --> 00:00:55,120 and there was nothing in the room to do, 24 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:57,625 except there was a button in front of them 25 00:00:57,625 --> 00:00:58,500 that they could push. 26 00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:00,042 And if they did, they gave themselves 27 00:01:00,042 --> 00:01:02,020 a painful electric shock. 28 00:01:02,020 --> 00:01:04,260 Sit there bored, or get a shock. 29 00:01:04,260 --> 00:01:05,800 A big majority of the participants 30 00:01:05,799 --> 00:01:08,539 gave themselves shocks instead of thinking about nothing. 31 00:01:08,540 --> 00:01:09,920 We don't like boredom. 32 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,329 Boredom is boredom is terrible. 33 00:01:11,329 --> 00:01:12,709 Why is boredom so bad? 34 00:01:12,709 --> 00:01:15,369 Well, because the default mode network makes 35 00:01:15,370 --> 00:01:18,290 us think about things that might be kind of uncomfortable. 36 00:01:18,290 --> 00:01:20,770 When you think about nothing while your mind wanders 37 00:01:20,769 --> 00:01:23,609 and thinks about, for example, big questions of meaning 38 00:01:23,609 --> 00:01:24,189 in your life. 39 00:01:24,189 --> 00:01:25,349 What does my life mean? 40 00:01:25,349 --> 00:01:28,409 You go to uncomfortable existential questions 41 00:01:28,409 --> 00:01:29,689 when you're bored. 42 00:01:29,689 --> 00:01:32,632 That turns out to be incredibly important, incredibly good. 43 00:01:32,632 --> 00:01:35,049 One of the reasons we have such an explosion of depression 44 00:01:35,049 --> 00:01:38,926 and anxiety in our society today is because people actually 45 00:01:38,927 --> 00:01:40,510 don't know the meaning of their lives, 46 00:01:40,510 --> 00:01:42,430 much less so in previous generations. 47 00:01:42,430 --> 00:01:45,770 Tons of data show this, and furthermore, we're 48 00:01:45,769 --> 00:01:46,829 not even looking. 49 00:01:46,829 --> 00:01:48,129 Why not? 50 00:01:48,129 --> 00:01:49,329 I'll tell you why not. 51 00:01:49,329 --> 00:01:52,929 We figured out a way to eliminate boredom. 52 00:01:52,930 --> 00:01:56,010 We've been able, almost completely, 53 00:01:56,010 --> 00:01:59,170 to shut off the default mode network in our brains. 54 00:01:59,170 --> 00:02:00,450 How? 55 00:02:00,450 --> 00:02:03,490 The answer is that thing in your pocket with the screen, 56 00:02:03,489 --> 00:02:06,250 which you take out even when you're standing on the street 57 00:02:06,250 --> 00:02:07,909 corner waiting for the light to change, 58 00:02:07,909 --> 00:02:12,078 is like, I might have to wait here for 15 seconds. 59 00:02:12,078 --> 00:02:12,870 What are you doing? 60 00:02:12,870 --> 00:02:15,495 You're actually trying to not be bored because the default mode 61 00:02:15,495 --> 00:02:18,137 network is mildly uncomfortable, because it sends you 62 00:02:18,137 --> 00:02:20,719 to the types of questions that you can't get your mind around. 63 00:02:20,719 --> 00:02:22,120 You can't get your arms around. 64 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,740 Well, that's a big problem. 65 00:02:23,740 --> 00:02:26,300 That's a doom loop of meaning. 66 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:29,580 If every time you're slightly bored pull out your phone, 67 00:02:29,580 --> 00:02:32,080 it's going to get harder and harder for you to find meaning, 68 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,380 and that's the recipe for depression and anxiety 69 00:02:36,379 --> 00:02:39,539 and a sense of hollowness, which, by the way, 70 00:02:39,539 --> 00:02:42,819 are all through the roof. 71 00:02:42,819 --> 00:02:43,500 I get it. 72 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:44,840 You don't want to be bored. 73 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,340 You need to be bored. 74 00:02:46,340 --> 00:02:47,659 Be bored more. 75 00:02:47,659 --> 00:02:49,699 Tomorrow, when you go to the gym in the morning 76 00:02:49,699 --> 00:02:52,060 after you wake up, don't take your phone. 77 00:02:52,060 --> 00:02:53,420 Can you handle it? 78 00:02:53,419 --> 00:02:56,379 Not listening to a podcast while you're working out. 79 00:02:56,379 --> 00:02:57,599 Just being in your head. 80 00:02:57,599 --> 00:03:00,340 I promise you, you'll have your most interesting ideas 81 00:03:00,340 --> 00:03:02,080 while you're working out without devices. 82 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,330 It's probably been a long time since you've done that. 83 00:03:04,330 --> 00:03:07,060 Commute with nothing, not even the radio. 84 00:03:07,060 --> 00:03:08,500 Can you do that? 85 00:03:08,500 --> 00:03:10,860 Start getting better at periods that 86 00:03:10,860 --> 00:03:13,960 are 15 minutes and longer of boredom, 87 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,000 and watch your life change. 88 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,580 Number one, you'll be less bored with ordinary things 89 00:03:18,580 --> 00:03:19,240 in your life. 90 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,159 If you get better at the skill of boredom, 91 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:22,439 you'll be less bored with your job. 92 00:03:22,439 --> 00:03:24,039 You'll be less bored with your relationships. 93 00:03:24,039 --> 00:03:25,747 You'll be less bored with the things that 94 00:03:25,747 --> 00:03:27,019 are going on around you. 95 00:03:27,020 --> 00:03:29,390 But more importantly, you'll start digging 96 00:03:29,389 --> 00:03:33,489 into the biggest questions in your life, purpose, meaning, 97 00:03:33,490 --> 00:03:36,990 coherence, significance. 98 00:03:36,990 --> 00:03:38,135 And who knows? 99 00:03:38,135 --> 00:03:40,921 You might just get happier. 100 00:03:40,921 --> 00:03:42,629 People ask me all the time, is the doctor 101 00:03:42,629 --> 00:03:44,590 taking his own prescriptions? 102 00:03:44,590 --> 00:03:45,620 And the answer is, yes. 103 00:03:45,620 --> 00:03:46,730 Yes, I am. 104 00:03:46,729 --> 00:03:49,152 I'm prone to the same pathologies as anybody else 105 00:03:49,152 --> 00:03:51,569 because I have the same brain chemistry as everybody else. 106 00:03:51,569 --> 00:03:52,769 So what do I do to fight that? 107 00:03:52,770 --> 00:03:54,812 And the answer is, well, I do a number of things. 108 00:03:54,812 --> 00:03:59,910 I have a no device policy after 7:00 in the afternoon. 109 00:03:59,909 --> 00:04:01,530 I don't sleep with my phone. 110 00:04:01,530 --> 00:04:06,069 We don't have devices when we have meals in my family. 111 00:04:06,069 --> 00:04:07,769 Because we're there for each other. 112 00:04:07,770 --> 00:04:10,550 We're not there for people who aren't there. 113 00:04:10,550 --> 00:04:12,790 Three, I have regular social media 114 00:04:12,789 --> 00:04:16,389 and screen cleanses where I don't use my device 115 00:04:16,389 --> 00:04:18,769 for longer periods of time. 116 00:04:18,769 --> 00:04:22,028 First, it's like children screaming in my head 117 00:04:22,028 --> 00:04:25,569 because that's how dopamine is saying, get the phone, 118 00:04:25,569 --> 00:04:26,469 get the phone. 119 00:04:26,470 --> 00:04:27,870 That's addiction. 120 00:04:27,870 --> 00:04:30,389 But it calms down and I feel better. 121 00:04:30,389 --> 00:04:33,250 And I feel sort of blessed by the end. 122 00:04:33,250 --> 00:04:35,052 And I pick the phone up by the end 123 00:04:35,052 --> 00:04:36,469 because I have to check my emails. 124 00:04:36,470 --> 00:04:39,360 And I have to be a normal, functioning, connected person 125 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,319 in the world. 126 00:04:40,319 --> 00:04:43,319 But it does remind me that my life doesn't have to revolve 127 00:04:43,319 --> 00:04:44,259 around these devices. 128 00:04:44,259 --> 00:04:46,680 These protocols are really, really helpful 129 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,540 and I recommend them to anybody and everybody. 130 00:04:49,540 --> 00:04:50,760 Don't sleep with your phone. 131 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:52,319 No phones during meals. 132 00:04:52,319 --> 00:04:54,639 Regular social media fasts. 133 00:04:54,639 --> 00:04:56,829 You'll get better. 134 00:04:56,829 --> 00:04:58,579 People worry that if they do these things, 135 00:04:58,579 --> 00:04:59,699 they're going to miss something. 136 00:04:59,699 --> 00:05:01,060 There are ways that you can remedy that. 137 00:05:01,060 --> 00:05:02,435 One of the things that you can do 138 00:05:02,435 --> 00:05:03,810 is you can have your phone on. 139 00:05:03,810 --> 00:05:05,560 You're just not looking at it, and there's 140 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,800 only one or two numbers that can reach you 141 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,340 in case of emergencies. 142 00:05:09,339 --> 00:05:10,899 Phones can do that by the way. 143 00:05:10,899 --> 00:05:13,019 If you don't have to do that, ask your kid. 144 00:05:13,019 --> 00:05:15,759 But don't use emergencies in as an excuse. 145 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:18,199 Here's something that's not an emergency. 146 00:05:18,199 --> 00:05:19,860 What's going on Twitter. 147 00:05:19,860 --> 00:05:23,000 That's not an emergency answer nothing. 148 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,120 It doesn't matter. 149 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,139 The news can wait. 150 00:05:25,139 --> 00:05:27,240 Seriously your grandparents didn't 151 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,780 what was going on every single second in Washington, DC. 152 00:05:30,779 --> 00:05:33,379 You're killing yourself with this stuff. 153 00:05:33,379 --> 00:05:34,219 Are you kidding me? 154 00:05:34,220 --> 00:05:35,760 It's bad for you. 155 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:38,719 So let me say it straight to my kids. 156 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,400 Put down your phones. 157 00:05:41,399 --> 00:05:43,319 You need more meaning in your life. 158 00:05:43,319 --> 00:05:45,089 And so do I.