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In the last 7 to 8 years, I began to

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develop a different comic voice and a

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and a different perspective. Um, you

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know, comedy stand-up comedy is a low

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art. It's it's a vulgar art. It's an art

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of the people. It's not fine. But it is

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an art. It's it it has to do with

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interpreting the world as you see it and

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then writing something and then

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delivering it verbally.

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Uh and I found a very liberating

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position for myself as an artist. And

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that was I sort of gave up on the human

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race and gave up on the American dream

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and culture and nation and decided that

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I didn't care about the outcome. And

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that gave me a lot of freedom from a

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kind of distant platform to be sort of

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amused a kind of to watch the whole

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thing with a combination of wonder and

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pity. I try to put that into words.

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Not caring about the outcome, what do

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you mean by that? Not having an

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emotional stake in whether this

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experiment with human beings works. I

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really don't care.

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Uh I love people as I meet them one by

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one. People of the are just wonderful as

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individuals. You see the whole universe

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in their eyes if you look carefully. But

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as soon as they begin to group, as soon

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as they begin to clot, when there are

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five of them or 10 or even groups as

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small as two, they begin to change. They

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sacrifice the beauty of the individual

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for the sake of the group. I decided it

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was all under the control of groups now,

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whether it's business, religion,

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political people or what, and I would

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distance myself from wishing for a good

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outcome. Let it do what it's going to do

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and I'll enjoy it as an entertainer.

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on what it is on its own.

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And I'll enjoy it for the entertainment.

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There's a little bit of a sick part in

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this, too. I root for the big comet. I

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root for the big asteroid to come and

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make things right. That's the way I put

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it. Stir things up. Yes, to get us back

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where we were before the first one came

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and knocked out these dinosaurs and let

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the ferrets go.

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about comets on this show tonight.

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I know it.

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Uh and I'm I'm rooting for that big one

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to come right through that hole in the

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ozone layer because I want to see it on

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CNN. See, I'm here for the

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entertainment, Charlie. I am. People

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These philosophers say, "Why are we

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here?" I know I am here. For the

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entertainment.

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The show.

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Bring it on. I want to see the circus.

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So

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But how does this affect your

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performance and what you bring to

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stand-up?

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I've seen a lot of comedian We've all

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seen a lot of comedians who seem to have

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a political bent in their work.

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And always implicit in the work is is

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some positive outcome. That this is all

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going to work. If only we do this. If

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only we pass that bill. If only elect

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him. If only we do that. It's not true.

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It's it's circling the drain time for

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the for humans. I believe this. I

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honestly believe this. Not just as a

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comedian he thinks that. He likes to say

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that. I believe it. And when you say to

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yourself, "I don't care what happens."

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It just gives you a broader perspective

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for the art for the words to to emerge.

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To not care. That's what happened in

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that '92 show. That's why I could say

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the planet is fine. The people are

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Cuz the planet will outlast us. It will

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be here and it will be fine.

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Has the subject matter changed? Well, I

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I you know, you're still stuck with

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what's going on. But I I don't like

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topical. I don't like political humor. I

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I don't mention politicians. In fact, I

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defend them in this particular show.

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Everyone is on their case. Everyone is

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always making things

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Politicians are bad. I I defend them and

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blame it on the people. This is where it

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belongs.

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You get what you deserve? Yes, you get

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what you deserve and you deserve what

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you get. And I have a slogan, "The

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public sucks." And it works nicely and

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people accept it. Not not not very

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enthusiastically, but they understand

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that it says, "We the people" in that

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preamble. Doesn't say them that this is

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and those that that's us. It says, "Hey,

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We got on this boat.

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And people who hate government are

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involved in a in a form of suicide

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because government is self-government.

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And if you hate the government, you hate

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yourself.

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It's the same with the war against

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nature that that mankind goes through.

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So, I just said to myself, "It's not

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going to get better, not in my lifetime.

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Let me enjoy this and get a little

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perverse about my my commentary on it."

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I I I open

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perverse mean, though? Well, to to look

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for where the people think the line is.

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The people have values that these things

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these these amorphous things they call

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values that they bring to to the to the

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seat in the theater when they sit down.

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And I like to find out where their line

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may be and deliberately cross it.

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Disturb them a little, make them

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uncomfortable and then

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make them and then bring them with me

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across the line and make them glad they

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came. That's what I do. I'm an

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entertainer. I'm not a doomsayer. I'm

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not here to preach. I don't do political

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tracts. But I do entertain. I do a lot

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of jokes, but I want you to feel a

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little in danger along the way.
