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>> The Joe Rogan Experience.

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>> TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY

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NIGHT. All day.

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>> Don't worry, sir.

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>> Fine. Thank you.

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>> Thank you [music] very much for being

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here. I'm really excited to talk to you.

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Uh, obviously there's been an amazing

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amount of interest and controversy

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because of your work. Uh, we should

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explain to everybody right off the bat

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what this is about. You are the man that

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was at the head of this

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research that is looking at structures

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that are underneath the bottom of the

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pyramid. And uh incredibly

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controversial, very fascinating, and if

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it's accurate, it essentially rewrites

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all of human history.

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>> Yes. Uh thank you for this invitation.

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And uh yes the group is composed by

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Colorado Malanga which is the head of

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the group and the uh dean professor of

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chemistry at University of Pisa.

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>> Could you explain your background please

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so people understand? Yeah

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>> yes my background is uh this I am a

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telecommunication engineering. I

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graduate at the university.

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>> What is that word again? Say it again.

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>> Telecommunication engineer.

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>> Telecommunications engineer. Okay. It's

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like your your English is excellent but

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the Italian accent although fabulous

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sometimes it's difficult to translate.

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>> Thank you very much Joe. I'm sorry yes

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that I'm not mother tongue of English

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but

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>> still much better than my Italian.

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>> Okay, thank you. [laughter]

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>> Yes, I graduated myself in university at

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the University of Leche south of Italy.

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very nice university and uh it it was it

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is has the name of a famous mathematic

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mathematic

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Italian which is any deeo

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de Georgie um

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was living in the era then John

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was living also and they uh were they

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were one against to the other and Uh

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they were they was both um studying the

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19 Hilbert pro problem and John um any

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de Georgie solved this pro this problem

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one week before John Nash.

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>> Ah interesting John Nash who from the

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famous movie a brilliant mind with

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Russell Crow.

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>> Yes.

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>> Yeah.

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>> So uh then I performed my PhD at

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Lasapenza in Rome

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uh and now I'm here. And how did you get

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involved in this this discovery?

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>> Yes. Uh I worked uh on radar and

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synthetic radar for a lot of time. Um

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radar

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>> for the Italian military. Right. Some

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work.

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>> Yes. Yes. Some

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>> which you can't really talk about. No.

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>> Right. Erh

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and uh I was um

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involved in some research where um

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together with uh the Italian research

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council of Bari always south of Italy.

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Uh we we was testing some special

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processing that were able were able to

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to to perform something special. And so

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>> this is

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>> so this top secret research that you

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work on for the Italian government led

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you to try this stuff out try this

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technology out and this is satellite

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based technology correct and it's a

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radio tomography

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>> yes it is something in my personal

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opinion very simple uh the radar is

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installed on board on the satellite the

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satellite flies at in the space uh at

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distance of 600 kilometers at 7

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kilometers/ second in velocity. So while

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uh it flies along the orbit, it is um

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able to catch snapshots of the earth.

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The snapshots has to be focused and this

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focusing procedure let's say it in the

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azimut I take it easy in the azimut

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direction is done by sound by the

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processing of sound because it is

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involved at the so-called Doppler

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frequency

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uh you know Joe when uh you hear noises

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that are approaching to you the this

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noise will rise the frequency because it

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the the target has a velocity a posity

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the velocity with respect to U and so

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the frequency is rised up and this

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procedure uh allow us to estimate or to

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to grab let's say the um um vibration

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information that is always present at

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the surface of the earth in terms of a

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vanishment waves that are present on the

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surface of the earth. So this vi

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vibration which is mechanical vibration

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uh carries inside of this the the the

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information that is located underground

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and so we did this.

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>> And was it a specific idea? Was it the

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idea specifically to look under the

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pyramids or was it something that was

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discovered accidentally?

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>> Okay. Yes. Uh once uh we discovered I we

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discovered this uh this method

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uh it was a coincidence that I knew

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Colorado Malanga and at that time I

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speak I am we are in 2018 he was

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studying the pyramids and so we were

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talking about uh something that uh if if

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there was some methods able to scan

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inside the pyramids because he needed

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some information to to to conclude the

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research that he was doing. And so uh I

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proposed him to use my technique and uh

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we started to work together and so we

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focused in that time on the pyramids

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>> and when was this when was the first

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scans?

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>> Uh yes in 2019. in 2019. And when you

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got the data back,

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>> did you immediately get the data that

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you're showing today where you see the

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columns with the coils around it?

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>> Okay. Uh in let's say that this research

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is can be divided by two. The first one

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1.0 uh we were concentrating research on

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the Kunum Kufu pyramid, the Kaops

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pyramid to watch inside the pyramid. And

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so we have uh detailed tailored our

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processing to watch only inside the

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pyramids because that pyramid only one

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pyramid because we were

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uh doing that kind of research. Then

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once we uh discovered things in 2020, we

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published the peerreview paper and uh we

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gave uh public the results that we found

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in inside the kum kum kufu pyramid. We

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decided to expand our um research in all

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the the Jiza plateau.

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>> Can I stop you there? The when you

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looked so we know quite a bit about the

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kufu pyramid and what the chambers are

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inside of it. Did this technology

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accurately describe the pyramid itself

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and the insides of it, the chambers that

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we know exist?

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>> Absolutely. Yes. Because we have

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detected this uh multi-layer structure

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that is inside the Kung Kufu pyramid,

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the so-called Zed. We have discovered it

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uh uh very well from the space and it is

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located inside the pyramid. And also we

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discovered it in the new we no we

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discovered it we we um uh we gave an

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image also of the other known structures

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like the gr the grand gallery

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>> the grand gallery

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>> the grand gallery and then also the

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queen's chamber and the king's chamber

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also so

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>> and accurate in terms of size and

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dimension

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>> and also position and location. Okay. So

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when did you decide to focus below the

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pyramid?

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>> Yes. uh we decided to focus below the

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pyramid. Uh because we uh we were our

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intention was to expand our um research

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and then also thanks to the third

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component of the research group which is

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Armando May. Uh he suggest us to expand

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our research and scan all the Giza

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plateau. And so what what date was it

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that you discovered these immense

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columns with the coils around it and all

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those structures that are underneath the

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pyramid? Yes, in the second part of of

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our research, we uh started focusing our

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scans on the Kraer pyramid and uh like

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Kunum Kufu and then we adjust our

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algorithms to go deeper. And so when we

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did this uh

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very nice things

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be began to to appear on our results.

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What what did you feel when you first

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saw those images that do appear to be

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immense columns? Uh I believe they're uh

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the diameter is 20 m

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>> 20 minutes.

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>> So they're huge, enormous columns.

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>> Yes.

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>> What what what went through your mind?

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>> Skepticism.

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>> Skepticism. I told for uh also Colorado

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uh was with me because uh

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we had those results for uh in our um

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desk without uh disclosure or anything

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for 6 months because my my opinion was

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that was not real. Um I uh I did I

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was thinking that maybe it was noise or

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some artifacts due due by our uh

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processing procedures.

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>> Did give you pause at all that they were

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so uniform that these columns were in

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very specific places and that they they

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lined up there was a uniform gap in

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between them.

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>> Yes. And uh uh why we disclosure this?

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because we started to use also other

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satellites and uh once we uh at at the

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beginning we were using only the Italian

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uh satellite system that is it is cosmos

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kimemed and cosmos kimemed second

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generation it's very good very precise

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but uh we wanted to shift our research

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using also other satellites because Joe

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in research when we have diversity

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diversity is a good thing because it

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confirms other things that we uh were uh

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searching we were searching confirmation

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confirmation. So once we had the same

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results while we were we was using uh

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American satellites called the Capella

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space and and also other satellites

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having always the same results. We

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decided to disclosure.

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>> How many different scans have been done

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on this area? Two or 300. Two. More than

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200.

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>> More than 200. And all with uniform

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results.

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>> Yes.

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>> Wow.

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>> Yes.

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>> There's a lot of resistance to this and

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it's from the usual characters and it's

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from people that I would characterize as

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gatekeepers of archaeological

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information. And um unfortunately they

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are not willing to approach this with an

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open mind. And you see this skepticism

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that just seems to me to be confirmation

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bias. They they want this to not be true

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regardless of the sheer number of scans

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and the uniformity of the results of

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these scans. And also the fact that this

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stuff has been proven to work on other

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things like didn't you guys use this

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exact technology to get the exact

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dimensions of a particle collider that

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you have?

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>> Yes. Yes, we have a particle collider

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where I have born in Lula which is

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located in the center of Italy. At the

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center of Italy

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there is a huge mountain called Grand

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Saso the Grand Saso Italia which is uh

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has a maximum altitude of about 3,000 m

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for being precise 2993 m. And so um

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there there is a a tunnel very very long

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tunnel about uh 11 12 kilometers and in

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[clears throat] the core of this

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mountain there is a particle collider

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there is a laboratory let's say like

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that

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>> and this technology

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got the exact dimensions of this

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particle collider that's deep in this

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mountain.

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>> Yes at

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1.4 kilometers with respect to the top.

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>> Wow. Yeah.

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>> Okay. So, we know it's accurate. We know

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it works. What do you think it I mean,

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other than what I said that it's

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gatekeepers of archaeological

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information? It's people that don't want

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to admit that there's perhaps a quite a

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bit bigger mystery than just the

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pyramids themselves. What What is What

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do you think it is that is causing this

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resistance?

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>> Personally, it's true. We found a lot of

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resistance. Yes, it's true. But

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personally, I don't know why. Erh, I can

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say something uh regarding to my

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personal opinion.

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Uh

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Joe, it is something that maybe is too

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big, too huge to

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to be disclosured like that today. I

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don't know why

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>> it's confusing to people because it's

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it's essentially

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paradigm shattering because the pyramids

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themselves are absolutely spectacular.

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The Great Pyramid is 2,300,000

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stones. The the alignment is to perfect

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true now, true north, south, east, and

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west. It's a really incredible

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accomplishment. Whoever built it and

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when they built it, it's just undeniably

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fascinating that this was done at the

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the very least 25,500 BC, probably even

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older than that. We really don't know.

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>> But that alone is spectacular. But then

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when you add the findings that you have,

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it just makes everybody go, "We don't

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know anything. We really don't. We we

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know that these things exist, but their

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purpose has always been speculative. The

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speculation was that it is some sort of

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a tomb, but that doesn't make any sense

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because there's there's no hieroglyphs

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inside of it. It doesn't seem like a

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tomb. Doesn't look like a tomb." And I'm

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sure you're aware of Christopher Dunn's

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work.

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>> Yes. Yes. which you know he's an

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engineer and he said it it appears that

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this thing is some sort of a mechanical

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thing and that it's probably designed to

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generate some kind of power. Yeah. Uh

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yes in this uh in this context I have

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spoke a lot with Christopher Dan and uh

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in in uh um I like a lot his theory and

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uh it it makes sense and um and so this

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discoveries matches a lot with his uh

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with his and also to other scientists

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that makes make recast the uh effective

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purpose of the pyramid not to to be

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tombs. Today we are sure we are sure or

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of one thing that the pyramids are not

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tombs. They're not tombs. And what is

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truly spectacular is that if if this

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data is accurate, those immense

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structures that have baffled mankind

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forever are just the tip of the iceberg.

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>> Yes.

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>> That's just the top.

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>> Yes.

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>> And underneath it,

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>> you have these immense structures that

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we have not yet fully explored. But you

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have data that shows that. Let's let's

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look at the images. Let's pull up some

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of the images so people can see what

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we're talking about. Cuz once you see

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it, you mind just goes, "Okay, what are

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we even talking about?" Like,

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>> what was this civilization?

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When did it exist? And what kind of

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technology would allow them to not just

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construct the pyramids, which is

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absolutely baffling, but if this

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structure that is underneath the

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pyramids is accurately described by your

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work, we're looking at something that it

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it is going to have to change our entire

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perspective on the history of humanity.

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Yes, I agree with you Joe because what

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we found it is something that is has

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been confirmed by by our measurements

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and at the moment I suppose that our

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measurements are the only are the only

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data that we have because there aren't

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other other data. So

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uh what we are uh observing we are we

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are observing principally vertical

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structure. This vertical structures has

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a a pattern a regular pattern and this

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regular pattern is uh um uh constituted

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by a so-called spiral nature. I found

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this and

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>> okay so what are we looking at here?

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These are

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>> that's the right one.

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>> Yes.

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>> Yeah. Okay.

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>> Yes. That is the cafrey pyramid. And you

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see Joe at the top of the tomography.

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The tomography is on the x. Uh so the

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horizontal dimension we have the space.

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Okay.

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>> Space adjust the range

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>> and on the vertical we have the depth.

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>> Okay.

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>> Okay. On the top we have the um uh the

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the the pyramid. You see you see the

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pyramid on the top. And while you go

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down, you are observing the structures

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that are going down. And look, you have

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the spiral nature of the of the of the

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structures.

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>> Okay, this is not the clearest image

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that I've seen. So, what are Let me see

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some other images.

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>> Um,

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>> because this is just one, right?

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>> I know. That's what this was from his

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presentation and I didn't know where to

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get the best from it.

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>> Back up one. So

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>> go go go. Okay. Again

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we have a lot of images here that that

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is requesting all the uh the research

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that we have done together.

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>> So the images that are going around

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online that people have seen are these

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3D replica. Pull up some more of those.

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>> Yeah. Get them off the web.

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>> Okay. Um some of the images online are

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recreations of what it is observed and

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what you believe this could look like

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underneath. Correct.

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>> Uh we have performed measurements and

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they are sound measurements that are

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that has been picked up from the surface

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of the earth by satellites. So they are

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very precise and they are coherent. A

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coherent it means that contains a lot of

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information. So it is uh characterized

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to have high entropy and so when we

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perform the so-called tomographic

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inversion we can see what there is

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underneath.

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>> Okay. So this is a recreation of what

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you believe it looks like.

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>> Yes.

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>> And how are you getting that from the

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image that's below that?

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>> Okay.

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>> So the image is just one aspect of the

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data. Correct. Yes,

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the imag

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>> this this this multicolored

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>> image. Okay, here we are observing

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inside the Cafra pyramid and inside the

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Cafra pyramid uh we are observing those

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structure there. The the those are

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inside the Cafra pyramid

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>> and the image above

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>> yes

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>> that is an artist recreation of what you

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think it looks like. Now, how did you

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make that determination that that's what

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it looks like?

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>> Okay. Um

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uh the uh 3D model has been has been um

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retrived not um observing just only one

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result but observing a lot of results.

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So putting on a table all the results

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that we have we were able to retrive so

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to facilitate people to read our

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measurements. Okay. So observing the

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results we were able to uh determine the

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spirals and the uh structures that are

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located starting from the base of the

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caf pyramid going down.

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>> I've seen other images of the scans that

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are more convincing than the one that's

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below. So, let's see if we can find some

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of those.

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What are they? What else do you have

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here?

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>> Yes, these are all images that are

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related to the first uh

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>> So, this is just an article that's in

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the news.

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>> Okay.

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>> Yeah, I just I mean, I even went here. I

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>> um what is like where's a a good place

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to get the best versions of these

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images? Like that right there. Okay.

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>> It's just kind of

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>> Okay. What is this? Okay. Uh here we are

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watching a wide area of of our

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tomographies. Look and we see the

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structures that are going down.

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>> Yes. This is much clearer.

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>> Yes.

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>> Okay. And

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>> and below the below the structure at the

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end of the structures there are huge

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chambers but they are really huge

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approximately having a uh a width and

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the length and the height of 80 80 m. So

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80 meter structures that are below all

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of this.

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>> Yes.

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>> So almost the size of a football field

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below all this. That is some sort of a

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chamber.

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>> Yeah.

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>> And um see see if you can find some

00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:47.839
other images, Jamie.

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So the coils,

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how did you determine that there was

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coils? Is it just because of the gaps

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that you see in the imagery? whether

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they come in this uniform pattern

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pattern that I I have

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two or three slides on my presentation

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where we find the coils.

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>> Okay, let's see if we can find those

00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:07.918
slides.

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>> You know which you know which slide

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maybe

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>> if you go down please. Yeah. Uh wait a

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minute.

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Okay. Okay. Here. Okay. Here we can

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observe a regular pattern. So not uh not

00:23:20.798 --> 00:23:28.319
coils. And we and we go we go down

00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:31.279
please. Okay. Regular pattern. And the

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coils are beginning to be seen there on

00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:37.279
the third image

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>> here. Regular pattern. Go down please.

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And here. This is in my personal opinion

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uh the fourth image uh from the uh left

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to the right. The fifth image. One, two,

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three. Four. The fourth image. I'm

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sorry. where you have a core at the at

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the center of the the the coil at the at

00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:05.519
the center of the the structure and then

00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:09.678
we have

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a something that spirals down.

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>> So has anybody speculated about what

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this could possibly be like what these

00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:20.000
coils are?

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>> Yes. erh I spoke with uh uh two

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independent with let's say with some

00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:30.959
independent researchers and uh uh

00:24:26.798 --> 00:24:32.639
especially with Christopher Dan and uh

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um

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and also uh I spoke also with Jeffrey

00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:44.399
that uh is uh uh considering also the

00:24:41.278 --> 00:24:46.640
Giza power plant like a chemical reactor

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or something like that. So we have on

00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:53.919
one side uh

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uh uh scientists that say okay it can be

00:24:53.919 --> 00:24:59.200
something related to electricity or or

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we have something related to chemical

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chemicals or other things in my personal

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opinion me I can see anything I can say

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anything because I just measured what

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there is there so it is not my how you

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say my my job to do this my job is okay

00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:22.640
here we have the measurements and now we

00:25:20.159 --> 00:25:27.120
have to see what there is inside my in

00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:28.720
my personal opinion this is the right um

00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:32.479
time

00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:33.679
to say okay let's go be let's go there

00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:34.640
and see what there is

00:25:33.679 --> 00:25:35.120
>> let's start digging

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>> yes

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>> yeah um pull up some more images please

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Jamie um so

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>> yes this is very important if you want I

00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:47.919
can I can tell you about this

00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:52.320
>> okay because It is uh the very important

00:25:47.919 --> 00:25:56.480
u project research project that uh I am

00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:58.960
working now and it is something that if

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could be possible we can go there and

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without digging anything we can go

00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:10.720
below. Why? Because uh belonging between

00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:14.000
the Sphinx and the Cafra pyramid, there

00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:17.360
are some shafts. And there there are the

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photos of the shafts where we can go in

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Sidto and we can uh physically go there

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and see and watch those shafts.

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Currently the shafts are

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blocked by debris and there is also

00:26:31.919 --> 00:26:40.320
rubbish inside. So we uh I performed I

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performed a lot of scans at at those

00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:46.158
shafts and you see jaw the sha the the

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shafts goes down down down down down and

00:26:46.159 --> 00:26:50.559
they reach

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chambers that are below

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>> and that is the doc doppler tomography

00:26:52.798 --> 00:26:55.918
readings. Yes.

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>> So these shafts go down. How far do they

00:26:55.919 --> 00:27:00.799
go down?

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>> Yes, they go down approximately 600 m.

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>> 600 m. Wow. Yes.

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>> So 600 m down and then they reach a

00:27:06.159 --> 00:27:07.520
chamber.

00:27:06.798 --> 00:27:09.278
>> Yes.

00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:12.240
>> What is the conventional explanation for

00:27:09.278 --> 00:27:14.079
these shafts? Is there one

00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:16.240
>> like what is what what do current

00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:17.359
archaeologists what does academia what

00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:18.400
do they think these things are? Leave

00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:21.278
that right there for a second.

00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:25.840
>> Yes. Yes. This is the complete 3D model

00:27:21.278 --> 00:27:28.960
that me and Colorado did. And uh so to

00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:33.839
uh observe all the structures that we

00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:35.679
have find that we found um

00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:38.319
evaluating

00:27:35.679 --> 00:27:39.919
the tomographies that we have done on

00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:42.079
the Jiza plateau.

00:27:39.919 --> 00:27:44.240
>> So it's not just under the great

00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:45.278
pyramid, it's under all three pyramids

00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:46.319
>> and also the Sphinx.

00:27:45.278 --> 00:27:46.880
>> And also the Sphinx.

00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:49.678
>> Yes.

00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:54.000
>> And they all seem to go do they go down

00:27:49.679 --> 00:27:57.440
to a uniform depth? Erh, we found at the

00:27:54.000 --> 00:28:00.159
moment the same depth. Yes.

00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:00.558
>> And they all have chambers at the

00:28:00.159 --> 00:28:02.960
bottom.

00:28:00.558 --> 00:28:06.000
>> Yes. Absolutely. Yes. And that's the the

00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:08.798
the in my personal opinion my the nice

00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:12.319
thing that uh that we are dealing at the

00:28:08.798 --> 00:28:16.480
end of the structures of these tubes

00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:18.158
that are going down. There are um huge

00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:22.798
uh chambers.

00:28:18.159 --> 00:28:26.159
>> How huge? Uh, as I told you before, 80 m

00:28:22.798 --> 00:28:28.158
times 80 m and times 80 m of height.

00:28:26.159 --> 00:28:29.120
>> And that's uniform underneath all the

00:28:28.159 --> 00:28:29.760
pyramids. It's the [clears throat] same

00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:30.239
dimensions.

00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:31.839
>> Yes.

00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.519
>> Wow.

00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:37.278
>> When you look at it like this, when you

00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:38.000
see your 3D recreation of the site, it's

00:28:37.278 --> 00:28:38.480
stunning.

00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:40.000
>> Yeah.

00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:44.120
>> Because it just it just makes you think

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:44.119
like, what is this?

00:28:44.159 --> 00:28:48.640
I mean, I can understand the skepticism

00:28:46.398 --> 00:28:51.839
and I can understand the resistance to

00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:55.360
this that modern academics have because

00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:56.959
this throws a giant monkey wrench into

00:28:55.359 --> 00:29:00.558
everything.

00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:03.519
This make makes everything we know about

00:29:00.558 --> 00:29:06.558
that area thrown into question.

00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:08.639
Because if this is true, like I said,

00:29:06.558 --> 00:29:10.319
this this rewrites history because

00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:13.120
you're dealing with an advanced

00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:16.759
civilization that is demonstrabably more

00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:16.759
advanced than us.

00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:26.240
Yes. Because uh they were able to

00:29:21.038 --> 00:29:28.879
to build very precise things, but not at

00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.960
the surface of the earth below.

00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:32.960
>> Well, they even built a lot of precise

00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:34.319
things that confuse us.

00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:36.480
One of the things that Christopher Dunn

00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:39.439
gave me is this. It's a the recreation

00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:42.319
of the vase of one of the many voses

00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:46.159
that they have that is

00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:47.359
>> accurate in its the the way it was made.

00:29:46.159 --> 00:29:49.440
>> Yeah.

00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:51.278
>> Down to

00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:53.038
god, what was the number? A thousandth

00:29:51.278 --> 00:29:56.319
of a human hair, something crazy like

00:29:53.038 --> 00:29:59.440
that. like much less than a human hair

00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:01.200
in the diameter, in the uniformity of

00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:04.480
it, in the fact that it was carved out

00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:06.558
of this incredibly hard stone at a time

00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:07.919
where there was no metal alloys. They,

00:30:06.558 --> 00:30:10.319
you know, there supposedly had copper

00:30:07.919 --> 00:30:11.600
tools. No one understands it. No one

00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:13.359
knows how they did it. And it has

00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:16.000
handles on it, so it couldn't have even

00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:18.959
been turned on a lathe.

00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:21.759
Yes. And also if we go inside the

00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:24.399
pyramids inside and also outside the

00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:28.398
pyramids we can observe that the

00:30:24.398 --> 00:30:32.319
measurements are very precise. The the

00:30:28.398 --> 00:30:34.879
chambers are constituted by flat walls.

00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:38.720
We don't have inscriptions

00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:41.200
uh and the dimensions are all related to

00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:42.079
the constants to the major constants of

00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.159
universe.

00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:46.720
>> Right? They're all aligned to the

00:30:44.159 --> 00:30:49.520
constellations. There's a lot of like

00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:52.880
very strange calculations that they were

00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:54.879
able to make like pathways where the sun

00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:57.039
during the solar equinox

00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:58.080
>> passes right through. It's a fascinating

00:30:57.038 --> 00:30:58.480
place.

00:30:58.079 --> 00:31:00.798
>> Yes.

00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:01.839
>> What when you

00:31:00.798 --> 00:31:03.918
started [clears throat]

00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:06.558
acquiring this data and you started

00:31:03.919 --> 00:31:09.278
accumulating it and then started going

00:31:06.558 --> 00:31:10.879
over it with experts, what did that feel

00:31:09.278 --> 00:31:13.359
like to you when you're when you

00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:15.360
realizing, oh, this is real?

00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:20.479
>> Yes.

00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:24.479
It was something that uh was very

00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:29.038
very nice for me because [laughter]

00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:31.038
because uh when we disc the thing was um

00:31:29.038 --> 00:31:33.759
I

00:31:31.038 --> 00:31:36.720
was saying always to Gor

00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:39.359
shall we disclosure this or not?

00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:42.079
I think for for now not for now not but

00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:45.199
then the results were always the same.

00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:45.759
So we decided to to disclose this uh

00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:47.200
this

00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.480
>> how long did you sit on it before you

00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.120
decided to disclose it?

00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.880
>> One year.

00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:52.479
>> One year. So for that one year, how

00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.840
conflicted were you? You must have been

00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:54.720
walking around like I have the biggest

00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.079
secret on earth.

00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:59.882
>> Yes.

00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.881
>> How weird was that? [laughter]

00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:04.320
Only two person knew this.

00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:07.918
>> That's crazy. [laughter]

00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:10.558
That's crazy. two people having one of

00:32:07.919 --> 00:32:12.320
the biggest secrets on earth

00:32:10.558 --> 00:32:14.960
>> that's backed by data. I mean it's not

00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:16.798
it's not even like you know someone told

00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:19.440
you something like you have

00:32:16.798 --> 00:32:22.480
extraordinary data due to fascinating

00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:24.798
modern technology that indicates that

00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:25.919
there's these paradigm shifting

00:32:24.798 --> 00:32:30.798
structures.

00:32:25.919 --> 00:32:35.038
>> Yeah. And uh I I tell you Joe, I I would

00:32:30.798 --> 00:32:36.000
like to go there and see what there is

00:32:35.038 --> 00:32:36.640
in person.

00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:39.038
>> Yes.

00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:42.399
>> Because it's it's now time. I think

00:32:39.038 --> 00:32:44.079
>> is there resistance from Egypt and the

00:32:42.398 --> 00:32:46.000
people that are in control of that area

00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:50.079
or are they fascinated by it?

00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:53.119
>> I tell you Joe, I didn't f find a lot of

00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:55.678
resistance. There is I found a lot of

00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:57.678
resistance in the internet. Yes. A lot

00:32:55.679 --> 00:33:00.399
of the banking a lot of people that no

00:32:57.679 --> 00:33:03.919
it's not true it's not true

00:33:00.398 --> 00:33:06.398
>> a lot of people that continues

00:33:03.919 --> 00:33:09.200
were continuing to say no rather can

00:33:06.398 --> 00:33:13.119
penetrate the earth for one kilometer 4

00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:15.759
and they didn't know or they they they

00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:18.319
purposely not saying this that we are

00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:21.200
not penetrating anything because we are

00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:23.678
just grabbing the entropy that is on the

00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:25.759
surface of the earth and with with with

00:33:23.679 --> 00:33:28.559
that information we are retriving

00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.879
tomographies. It's something new that I

00:33:28.558 --> 00:33:33.200
invented but it works because we have

00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:35.120
benchmarks that demonstrates the

00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:37.038
effectiveness of the method and it's

00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.479
this is 100%.

00:33:37.038 --> 00:33:41.519
>> And there's also been some criticism

00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:43.679
that the patents have expired but that's

00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:44.319
because you have new patents on better

00:33:43.679 --> 00:33:49.200
stuff.

00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:51.839
>> Yes. Now Jo under NDA. So h I uh we just

00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:53.919
uh I think I I can say something about

00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:56.000
the second patent because just yesterday

00:33:53.919 --> 00:33:56.559
we filed the patent in USA.

00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:57.519
>> Nice.

00:33:56.558 --> 00:34:01.278
>> Yes.

00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:04.240
>> Wow. Um have any academics reached out

00:34:01.278 --> 00:34:05.599
to you in support that are interested in

00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:06.079
this and would like to explore this

00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:10.639
further?

00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:15.039
>> Yes. Yes. Erh I I tell you this there

00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:19.039
are uh companies uh related to mining

00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:24.960
and uh uh crude oil extraction and then

00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:27.440
also water. Uh Joe today we are living a

00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:30.320
particular time because water is very

00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:34.000
important. Uh we are in a so-called

00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:36.559
water emergency in all the world. So for

00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:38.480
me the first thing that we have to do is

00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:41.838
to scan

00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:45.280
uh the earth and uh uh to fetch to to

00:34:41.838 --> 00:34:48.398
find to try and find other uh let's say

00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:51.200
uh opportunity to ext extract not salty

00:34:48.398 --> 00:34:52.878
water because it's very important.

00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.519
>> So you'll be using this technology for

00:34:52.878 --> 00:34:55.679
that as well.

00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:56.159
>> We uh for now not but I'm thinking to do

00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:57.519
it.

00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:59.280
>> Well it makes sense. I mean, if it can

00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:01.440
detect this, it should be able to detect

00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:03.280
that as well. And that will be if and

00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:05.838
it's and it also if it's accurate, that

00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:09.119
will also help garner support. Yes. For

00:35:05.838 --> 00:35:09.838
this this exploration of whatever is

00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:14.160
under there.

00:35:09.838 --> 00:35:18.159
>> Yeah. And uh so uh we we are receiving a

00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:21.199
lot of uh uh calls from uh companies

00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:23.598
that want to work with me. And so let's

00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:25.118
see what what we can do. And so this is

00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:27.119
all companies that have reached out

00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:28.400
after you released the results

00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:31.358
underneath the pyramids.

00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:32.639
>> Uh the most of them are calling me

00:35:31.358 --> 00:35:34.239
recently,

00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.358
>> right? So they've heard about

00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.719
>> relatively recently. Yes.

00:35:35.358 --> 00:35:38.400
>> Well, that's capitalism, right? They

00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:38.959
they say, "Oh, we can make money off of

00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:39.280
this."

00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:41.440
>> Yes.

00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:43.200
>> Yeah. Well, that's good. That gets

00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.838
people interested. It gets people

00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:46.239
involved in this.

00:35:43.838 --> 00:35:49.679
>> And so we have also philanthrop

00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:54.159
philanthropic project. We are opening a

00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:57.759
um a foundation in Malta. Uh we we are

00:35:54.159 --> 00:36:00.399
realizing it in uh two weeks and uh we

00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:02.400
we will have a foundation in Malta and

00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:04.639
with the with that foundation we can

00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:08.320
operate also philanthropically for the

00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:11.039
the Giza plateau and other uh and other

00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:13.680
uh ancient megalytics that are located

00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:14.480
in all the world. We have a plan to scan

00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.879
everything

00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:20.719
>> really. What is next?

00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:22.720
Uh maybe we we can see uh Pumapo or

00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:25.519
other sites.

00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:27.838
>> Yeah. Yeah. Go back.

00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:29.838
>> Go back. Yes.

00:36:27.838 --> 00:36:31.599
>> Have you looked at the labyrinths

00:36:29.838 --> 00:36:33.599
underneath uh the the ones that were

00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:35.359
described by Herododus that Ben Van

00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:38.920
Kirkwick has been talking about and his

00:36:35.358 --> 00:36:38.920
Uncharted exchange

00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:44.960
atrium with a 40 meter metallic object

00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:48.319
that's the shape of a tic tac in there.

00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:49.119
>> Yes. They asked me to do it and we will

00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.720
do it.

00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:53.920
>> Yeah, you have to do that.

00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:57.439
>> I I tell you Joe the processing is very

00:36:53.920 --> 00:37:00.400
nice but requests a lot of calculations.

00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:04.400
So uh it is time consuming. So at the

00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:07.200
moment at the moment uh we have some

00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:10.639
computers that are dedicated on JA and

00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:14.319
other project that we are doing and in

00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:18.000
the future maybe we will have other um

00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:20.160
other machines that uh can work to to do

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:22.719
other things but we will do it. We we

00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:25.838
need time but we will do it. Now, are

00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:28.000
you absolutely convinced that this data

00:37:25.838 --> 00:37:29.838
is accurate or have any of the

00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:31.920
criticisms of any of the people that are

00:37:29.838 --> 00:37:34.000
trying to debunk it? Have has any of

00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:35.920
that resonated with you and rang true?

00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:38.880
Is there any validity to any of the

00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:42.480
criticisms?

00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:45.920
>> Radar is only precise. The nice thing

00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:48.639
that has radar is the precision

00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:51.920
and especially from space because space

00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:54.239
it is a very silent environment. you

00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:56.880
don't have noise something the the

00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:59.199
platform is very stable. So when you

00:37:56.880 --> 00:38:02.240
transmit electromagnetic waves

00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:03.759
>> they return back with absolutely precise

00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:05.598
with absolute precision

00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:08.640
>> and it's recreated over and over again

00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:10.320
in these 200 plus scans that you've done

00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:12.159
with various different satellites.

00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:13.039
Correct. Not just one so that one could

00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:13.279
have errors.

00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:14.400
>> Yeah.

00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:16.800
>> So you're convinced?

00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:20.639
>> I'm convinced 100% because

00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:25.119
>> wow I did the I invented the method.

00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:27.279
Yes, I know. But uh I tell you that uh I

00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:30.880
am happy if somebody can replicate

00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:33.200
things. So if other research groups can

00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.320
replicate the things that I'm showing, I

00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:36.559
am happy.

00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:39.039
>> Well, you got there first. Yeah. So no

00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:41.358
matter what [laughter]

00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:43.838
>> I mean you if this is correct you will

00:38:41.358 --> 00:38:46.400
go down in history as one of the most

00:38:43.838 --> 00:38:49.599
important figures in archaeology because

00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:52.240
if you are

00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:54.160
>> you're welcome but I it's just fact if

00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.838
what you're saying is true and we're

00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:58.078
just recently discovering this in the

00:38:55.838 --> 00:39:00.239
21st century. I mean that's absolutely

00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:04.480
mindbending.

00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:09.439
>> Uh thank you for this. Uh yes I I am

00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:11.440
happy for uh for being in this uh but uh

00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:14.240
not al not not only me other people

00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:16.000
helping me to to do my work. Yes.

00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:17.598
>> Oh of sure of course a lot of people

00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:21.440
>> and in principal my family.

00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:25.920
>> Yeah. um this these structures and this

00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:28.000
this whole area if this turns out to be

00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:30.800
something that you don't find just at

00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:33.440
the Giza plateau but around other parts

00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.039
of Egypt. I mean there's always been a

00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:37.519
lot of speculation as to whether or not

00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:39.679
a civilization existed in subsaharan

00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:41.599
Africa an advanced civilization that in

00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:43.118
the area are not now sand you could

00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:43.838
probably do that same sort of research

00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.880
there as well.

00:39:43.838 --> 00:39:48.639
>> Yes. Yes. I I agree with this and uh we

00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:52.320
will do it. Yes.

00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:55.679
>> Wow. What is life like for you now

00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:57.359
having this exposed and now you know

00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:59.358
having this on the internet and all the

00:39:57.358 --> 00:40:00.719
speculation and all this excitement?

00:39:59.358 --> 00:40:05.199
What has that been like for you?

00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:10.399
>> Yes, I am not very used uh on all this

00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:12.639
exposure in on the internet. Uh

00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:16.680
it is something that I have to uh get

00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:16.679
used of this. Yes.

00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:26.480
My my life is simple, Joe. I I live in

00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:31.280
Italy and uh but uh um

00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:37.519
now I repeat this uh it is time to go

00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:43.920
ahead and go on the uh Jiza plateau and

00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:46.000
in person I I wish to see the effective

00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:49.280
structure how they are and the purpose

00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:51.519
of the of all the plateau what it is And

00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:54.160
is there plans to do that in person to

00:40:51.519 --> 00:41:00.000
do some sort of an excavation?

00:40:54.159 --> 00:41:02.719
>> Yes. Um I wrote a project proposal which

00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:08.159
is a research and also not research a

00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:12.000
proposal and uh is now um

00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:14.799
we we are uh our intention is to submit

00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:17.280
this proposal at the Egyptian

00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:19.599
authorities.

00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:20.319
If you want I can explain you this

00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:23.760
proposal

00:41:20.318 --> 00:41:26.000
>> please. Um we are involving University

00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.680
of Ferrara

00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:31.679
um

00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:36.639
principal scientist professor Savakaro

00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:38.239
Italian professor in she's a geologist

00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:42.480
um

00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:46.000
and other uh and other governmental

00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:48.400
Italian governmental uh in institutions

00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:52.239
that are very clever to do scans in sidu

00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:54.400
scans. So we are not using my my

00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:58.000
technique. We use the state-of-the-art

00:41:54.400 --> 00:42:00.318
technique that it is recognized by

00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:02.318
science today.

00:42:00.318 --> 00:42:06.800
And

00:42:02.318 --> 00:42:09.199
uh our uh intention is to

00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:12.400
uh concentrate the efforts on those

00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:16.318
shafts that I that I showed you that we

00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:21.838
we we have seen because we are we are

00:42:16.318 --> 00:42:24.880
not 90 99% convinced that or sure that

00:42:21.838 --> 00:42:28.159
those those are natural entrance into

00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:30.800
the the uh the structures that are below

00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:33.838
that are located below because we have

00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:36.079
the vertical structures and

00:42:33.838 --> 00:42:38.239
you saw on the on the tomographies you

00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.680
have also horizontal connections.

00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:40.639
>> So there's corridors.

00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:42.318
>> Yes, you have.

00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:44.318
>> And how large are these corridors?

00:42:42.318 --> 00:42:47.519
>> Uh

00:42:44.318 --> 00:42:48.159
about uh they they are tall about 3 m

00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:48.880
tall.

00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:50.399
>> Okay.

00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:55.119
>> So about 9 ft tall.

00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:57.680
>> Yes. Yes. that can that will uh using

00:42:55.119 --> 00:43:00.880
these corridors you uh will arrive

00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:06.078
directly inside the the the coils that

00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:09.280
we are that we are uh uh um visualizing

00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:13.280
uh that we v visualize uh before.

00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:15.040
>> So there's passages and shafts and these

00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:17.920
uh enormous

00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:20.000
ways that they can go back and forth in

00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:22.000
between these various structures. The

00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:25.519
thing that we have to do now is to clean

00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:28.000
those shafts. We have to do uh cleaning

00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:29.920
because now they are um

00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.239
>> sand debris.

00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:31.358
>> Yeah.

00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:33.759
>> Yeah.

00:43:31.358 --> 00:43:35.920
>> And um

00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:37.680
is there a timeline on when you would

00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:38.800
like to start cleaning these shafts and

00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.719
start doing this kind of stuff?

00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:43.920
>> Yes, it depends when we submit the

00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:48.318
project. The project is ready. Uh I know

00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:51.200
uh people that uh are living in uh in um

00:43:48.318 --> 00:43:53.519
uh in Egypt that when we are ready we

00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:58.480
can submit the project proposal then we

00:43:53.519 --> 00:44:00.639
are we are at uh when the government if

00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:02.159
if approved the project we can start.

00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:03.838
>> Now I would imagine that something like

00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:05.759
this something at this scale would

00:44:03.838 --> 00:44:06.400
require enormous funding.

00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.880
>> Yeah.

00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:13.440
>> And how do you uh how do you hope to

00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:17.920
acquire that? We we can make um we can

00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:23.679
say uh people that this this work is not

00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:28.079
for me but is for humans. And so people

00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:31.919
uh we we we ask people to help us in uh

00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:33.920
getting money to perform the work. We

00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:36.800
have to ask people. Have you reached out

00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:38.400
to any like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk type

00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.519
people that have tons of money that

00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:40.400
might be interested in doing something

00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:41.599
like this?

00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:42.318
>> I don't know them, Joe.

00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.880
>> You don't know them?

00:44:42.318 --> 00:44:46.159
>> No. But maybe uh

00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:46.480
>> it's a big ask.

00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:48.399
>> Yes,

00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:49.280
>> it's a big ask, you know, asking.

00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:50.880
>> It's a big ask.

00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.640
>> A few billion dollars to go dig around

00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.640
under the pyramids. I mean, how much

00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:55.118
money do you think it costs to to do

00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:57.679
this

00:44:55.119 --> 00:45:01.599
>> to do? We we we have to do we we did an

00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:04.078
estimation of uh the the

00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:08.559
an estimation about I don't know for

00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:09.760
maybe maybe uh belonging for 20 millions

00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:10.559
or or more

00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:11.680
>> $20 million

00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.440
>> yes $20 million

00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.239
>> and this is just to clean the shaft and

00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:18.000
go underneath

00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:21.598
>> and because why so much money because we

00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:23.920
are our intention is to work safety I

00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:26.720
don't want that people has to go down

00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:30.480
the shaft and work. We will we want to

00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:34.078
use drones, robots to to make something

00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:35.599
automatically and so go down by using

00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.480
machines, not humans.

00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:36.720
>> Yeah, that makes sense.

00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.400
>> Yeah.

00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:40.159
>> Yeah. And that way you can get accurate

00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:41.039
real time video and

00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:44.960
>> Yes. Yes.

00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:48.000
>> Wow. with cameras and uh it will be

00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:51.519
something I am thinking about this the

00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:53.920
most maybe is one of the most ancient

00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:58.079
megalithic structure that we are dealing

00:45:53.920 --> 00:46:00.960
now can be recovered by the most modern

00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:03.519
technology that we have now today and so

00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:04.800
we can recover it modern and ancient

00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:06.719
together.

00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:08.400
>> So you've been giving this presentation

00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:10.480
now and you've been going around. What

00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:12.000
has that been like? What has the

00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:15.519
reception of it been like?

00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:16.800
>> Yes. A a moderate

00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.440
positive reception.

00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:21.839
>> Moderate positive. So people that are

00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:23.119
like if this is true it's amazing but

00:46:21.838 --> 00:46:25.279
you have to show me more.

00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:27.838
>> Yes.

00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:29.119
>> I tell you in this project proposal I am

00:46:27.838 --> 00:46:29.759
out.

00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:33.119
>> You're out.

00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:35.359
>> Yes. It is better than that University

00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:38.720
of Ferrara that is one of the most

00:46:35.358 --> 00:46:42.159
important university in Italy can stay

00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:43.199
there and uh manage all the work is

00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:43.519
better

00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:44.639
>> right

00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:47.199
>> and I'm out

00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:49.199
>> right you showed them what's there show

00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:50.239
them the technology now

00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.199
>> good luck

00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:52.719
>> thank you

00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:54.639
>> thank [laughter] you thank you and good

00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:56.879
luck so tell me about this presentation

00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:58.078
so how do you set this up I know you you

00:46:56.880 --> 00:47:00.079
brought some of the slides of this

00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:01.039
presentation tell tell me how you set

00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.000
this up.

00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:04.000
>> How you

00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:05.838
>> how you set it up? So, how you explain

00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:07.679
it to these when you have these, you

00:47:05.838 --> 00:47:09.039
know, semi-eptical scientists that are

00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.799
sitting down there and you're going to

00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:13.561
tell them, I'm about to rewrite human

00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:14.079
history. How do you set this up?

00:47:13.561 --> 00:47:16.239
>> [laughter]

00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:18.640
>> Oh, they were uh they were listening me

00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:23.519
very well and they [snorts] asking me uh

00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:25.920
things uh about how they everyone um the

00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:28.559
first thing that they asked me is how it

00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:32.159
works and that's good and so I slowly

00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:34.960
explain explain them how it works and

00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:37.838
how I arrived to to to make this

00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:43.519
presentation so to have our results and

00:47:37.838 --> 00:47:45.119
uh uh and so and so on and They

00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:47.679
they they

00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:49.039
someone of them is skeptical, someone a

00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:50.000
bit less skeptical,

00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:50.480
>> which is what you want.

00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.480
>> Yes.

00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:53.599
>> Yes. You want healthy debate about this

00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:54.960
kind of stuffy debate.

00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.240
>> That's the only way you find out what

00:47:54.960 --> 00:48:00.079
the truth is.

00:47:56.239 --> 00:48:03.679
>> Yes. Only only having a you a healthy

00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:07.440
debate, we can find what is the truth. I

00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:09.440
I don't want to polarize people for me.

00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:11.599
You know, it's not my it's not my job.

00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:13.760
No. Well, not only that, it's not you're

00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:16.559
just discovering something. Yes.

00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:19.440
>> This is something that's there. And for

00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:22.000
people to just put on a skeptical lens

00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.400
and just not look at it at all is crazy.

00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.239
>> Yes.

00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.519
>> Like if you're skeptical, we should

00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:28.159
probably explore it. And if you're

00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:31.679
wrong, okay, now we know it's not true.

00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:32.239
>> But if it is true, it's a crime to not

00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:33.838
investigate.

00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:38.239
>> Do not investigate. It's a crime to not

00:48:33.838 --> 00:48:42.480
investigate. Yes. And I tell you the

00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:47.039
the uh solution to we we don't we don't

00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:49.679
have to dig holes uh uh ruin the what is

00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:52.558
now preserved. No, we we have to only

00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:55.838
clean enough. We have to only clean and

00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:59.280
we have to use what there is

00:48:55.838 --> 00:49:02.078
made. It's for us because those shafts

00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:03.599
they are for us. They are calling us. We

00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:08.880
our

00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:12.318
um our rights are to clean them and see

00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:13.599
what there is and do go down and explore

00:49:12.318 --> 00:49:15.279
them. Personally,

00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:18.559
>> well, it just seems like these shafts

00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:20.400
exist at alone and they are at that

00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:22.400
depth that you describe and they are at

00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:24.079
the dimensions you describe. It really

00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.760
does lend credence to what you're

00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:27.280
saying. Yeah. because it seems like

00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:30.000
there's a purpose for those things. And

00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:32.000
if they do go down to the area where all

00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:33.199
these structures are,

00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:35.280
>> seems like there's something there.

00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:38.480
>> In my personal opinion, they were built

00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:39.599
purposely. And if you see the the

00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:41.838
>> access points probably.

00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:45.838
>> Yes, they are access points. They are

00:49:41.838 --> 00:49:49.599
they were made probably to um you know,

00:49:45.838 --> 00:49:52.480
Joe uh when you go deep below the earth,

00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:58.960
the temperature rises a lot. So there is

00:49:52.480 --> 00:50:01.920
a certain uh uh ratio uh of um where the

00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:05.358
temperature rises uh proportional to the

00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:08.800
depth that you are going. So the shafts

00:50:05.358 --> 00:50:12.639
are made purposely to take the their

00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:17.480
their function is to transport air light

00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:17.480
and so cool what there is inside.

00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:21.039
>> Well that makes sense.

00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:23.358
>> Yeah. and also access

00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:24.400
um show me some of the other slides and

00:50:23.358 --> 00:50:25.920
other things that are in your

00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:27.358
presentation so we can get a more

00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.760
comprehensive understanding of what

00:50:27.358 --> 00:50:30.759
we're looking at.

00:50:32.028 --> 00:50:33.838
[clears throat]

00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:38.799
>> Okay.

00:50:33.838 --> 00:50:43.199
>> Yes. This is uh the Zed this is ah Mario

00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:51.039
Pinker. Maru Pinker was a researcher

00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:53.759
uh that he died the on 2011 12 and uh he

00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:56.318
was studying the zed which is the

00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:58.319
multi-layer monument let's call it a

00:50:56.318 --> 00:51:01.519
monument but it's not a monument because

00:50:58.318 --> 00:51:04.880
it it has a certain and very precise

00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:05.759
function that is uh inside the pyramid

00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.280
this is the

00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:09.760
>> and this is [clears throat] the uh

00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:10.240
outlined image in the lower left hand

00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.160
corner.

00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:13.439
>> Yeah, that's the tomography that we that

00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:14.000
we have retrieved. It looks very

00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.679
precise,

00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:17.599
>> right? It looks exactly like what it

00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:19.358
looks like in the actual image. What is

00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:20.800
that thing? What is the what do you

00:51:19.358 --> 00:51:27.199
think the function of that thing is?

00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:29.760
>> Yes. Uh the function is um is is this uh

00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:31.679
uh it is you you see on the top of the

00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:32.400
structure there is something like

00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:35.440
>> like a cap.

00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:39.920
>> Yes, like a cap.

00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:45.440
uh that cap uh is has a a precise

00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:47.039
function to act attract the in the the

00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.760
vibration.

00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:55.039
Okay. It's an antenna

00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:57.040
in the in the vibration domain. Okay.

00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:57.759
>> Antenna in the vibration domain. Yes.

00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:02.318
Okay.

00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:06.720
attract the the energy in terms of uh

00:52:02.318 --> 00:52:08.639
mechanical vibration and propagates them

00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:11.919
below.

00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:14.400
There are other slides please. Okay. Uh

00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:16.159
here I did a simulation. Uh now I'm

00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:22.160
sorry because I don't have the video

00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:24.799
because this is a PDF but uh I I um uh

00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:26.960
reproduced the function of the zed on

00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:27.599
the computer.

00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:28.480
Okay.

00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:33.039
>> Okay.

00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:35.760
>> And look on the right side, we have all

00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:38.079
the vibrations that interacts one to

00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:38.720
each other to each layer. Look.

00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:41.359
>> Mhm.

00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:45.279
>> And you can see that each layer. Look

00:52:41.358 --> 00:52:48.558
how strange it is. Each layer on the top

00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:49.440
of each layer, it is scattered.

00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:49.760
Look.

00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.838
>> Okay.

00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:54.880
>> On the top of the each layer and the

00:52:51.838 --> 00:52:57.759
bottom is very flat. It's flat. So what

00:52:54.880 --> 00:53:00.960
is that? It is something related to

00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:04.640
filter. It is a It is a low pass filter.

00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:06.400
A made by stones.

00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:07.118
Very crazy. This that's a low pass

00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:09.358
filter.

00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:10.318
>> A lowass filter. What exactly is a

00:53:09.358 --> 00:53:12.400
lowass filter?

00:53:10.318 --> 00:53:15.599
>> Yes. A low pass filter is a filter that

00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:19.358
allow us that that allows the

00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:22.480
transmission only of certain frequencies

00:53:19.358 --> 00:53:25.199
and reject other frequencies. So it is a

00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:29.199
stabilizer frequency stabilizer and the

00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:31.199
low pass or a a certain low value

00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.759
frequency.

00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:34.960
Okay.

00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:36.800
>> Right. And so this aligns with

00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:39.119
Christopher Dunn's theory. Yeah.

00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:42.960
>> That there was something underneath the

00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:45.760
the pyramid that there was a a chamber

00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:48.159
that was they were using to generate

00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:49.760
vibration and that that vibration would

00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:53.358
go through the entire structure.

00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:55.520
>> Yes. And look, Joe, the last layer,

00:53:53.358 --> 00:53:58.480
look, transmits

00:53:55.519 --> 00:54:01.920
directly inside

00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:05.599
the the the so-called uh sarcophagus.

00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:07.760
That's not a sarcophagus there.

00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:10.160
>> And so what do you think that what they

00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:10.559
call a sarcophagus? This immense granite

00:54:10.159 --> 00:54:12.799
box.

00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:15.359
>> Yeah. Let's call it Yes. The gr the

00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:18.559
granite box. Yes. And then inside the

00:54:15.358 --> 00:54:21.679
granic box

00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:24.400
was done to contain a man a body. And

00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:27.118
that vibration look

00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:29.519
collapses at the center of the granite

00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:30.960
box where the man was lying down.

00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:33.119
>> So do you think there was actually a man

00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:33.920
inside that? So a person would lay in

00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:34.559
that box.

00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:36.000
>> Yes.

00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:37.680
>> And what what happened to them?

00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:39.280
>> I don't know.

00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:40.879
>> Whoa.

00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:43.040
So

00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:44.720
>> I don't know. That's a simulation that I

00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.239
did, but it's precise.

00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:48.078
>> So, you don't think it's for a dead

00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:48.399
body? You think it's for a live body?

00:54:48.079 --> 00:54:50.800
>> Yes.

00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:53.680
>> And so, a person would lay there and

00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:56.000
have some probably incredibly profound

00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:58.879
experience with whatever

00:54:56.000 --> 00:55:01.838
>> Probably. Yes.

00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:03.440
>> What do you think it was? Like, if you

00:55:01.838 --> 00:55:05.679
just wanted to get crazy and put on the

00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:07.838
tinfoil hat and speculate, what do you

00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:09.440
think it was?

00:55:07.838 --> 00:55:11.119
I mean, what would happen to a person if

00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:13.440
they encountered this kind of vibration?

00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:18.440
these kind of frequencies and in this

00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:18.440
resonating granite box

00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:22.480
>> I can say something that is not

00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:23.358
scientific uh recognizing.

00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:26.838
>> Yeah, that's what I want.

00:55:23.358 --> 00:55:26.837
>> Yeah. [laughter]

00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:32.240
Maybe

00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:33.119
>> keep it up there. [laughter]

00:55:32.239 --> 00:55:35.039
>> What do you think?

00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:37.680
>> Maybe that person was ready to have an

00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:41.599
out of the body experience induced.

00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:45.960
>> Oh, like a gateway.

00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:45.960
a gateway to the spirit world.

00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:52.880
Look at on the top you have the antenna.

00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:56.000
The antenna is recepting all the

00:55:52.880 --> 00:56:00.559
vibrations that transmits

00:55:56.000 --> 00:56:02.960
all the signal below directly inside the

00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:05.200
granite box. It's very exciting.

00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:08.720
>> And what do you think was generating

00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:11.039
these vibrations? Ah yes the natural the

00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:15.279
uh the wind the natural vibration

00:56:11.039 --> 00:56:17.119
vibration of the earth and also some uh

00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:20.160
let's say

00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:22.400
uh flowing the the the flowing of water

00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:22.798
also the flowing of water and generated

00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:24.639
by

00:56:22.798 --> 00:56:26.559
>> flowing water and then there was also

00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:28.719
shafts that were this is part of

00:56:26.559 --> 00:56:30.559
Christopher Dunn's theory these shafts

00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:33.279
that reached the outside of space that

00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:34.400
he thinks were attracting space

00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:36.880
radiation

00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.838
>> can be Yeah, that's another possibility.

00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:40.720
>> Yes, another possibility.

00:56:37.838 --> 00:56:42.880
>> He also had a a theory that perhaps the

00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:44.879
lower chamber that's below the the

00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:47.039
pyramid itself that there was some

00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:49.920
mechanical device inside of there that

00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:53.279
was generating vibration

00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:56.400
>> for this uh can be. Yes, can be. But we

00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:58.720
don't boom through the entire structure

00:56:56.400 --> 00:57:00.720
and this is creating this vibration.

00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:02.480
That's the antenna. You've got this

00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:04.239
filter through it and then someone is

00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:05.920
laying in the sarcophagus tripping

00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:07.759
balls. Yes. Is that

00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:10.000
>> Whoa.

00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:12.799
That's crazy.

00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:15.119
That's crazy.

00:57:12.798 --> 00:57:17.280
Do you imagine if this entire structure

00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:20.079
was just built so that someone could

00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:22.720
have some sort of a bizarre out-of- body

00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:24.079
experience or psychedelic gateway

00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:25.199
experience?

00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:27.119
>> I think that's true. I think it's

00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:28.960
psychedelic Disney World. [laughter]

00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:30.240
>> I do. I seriously I had I had that

00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:31.280
epiphany like two months ago.

00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:32.959
>> Really?

00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:34.798
>> I don't want to explain it, but yeah.

00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:37.280
Uh, I was look looking at a picture of

00:57:34.798 --> 00:57:38.798
me when I was a kid at a like a Cedar

00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:40.559
Point, which is like roller coaster

00:57:38.798 --> 00:57:44.159
place. I was just thinking of how much

00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:46.559
effort we put in to making kids or young

00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:48.798
adults have a wild experience. Yeah.

00:57:46.559 --> 00:57:51.119
>> That is only

00:57:48.798 --> 00:57:53.039
uh in reference, you only understand it

00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:54.880
if you live there. If you found Disney

00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:57.433
World now in a thousand years, you'd be

00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:57.599
like, "What the [ __ ] They worship mice?

00:57:57.434 --> 00:57:58.640
[laughter]

00:57:57.599 --> 00:58:00.160
>> What the [ __ ] are you talking about?

00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.039
This is insane. Look at all the pictures

00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:02.558
of mice everywhere."

00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:04.000
>> That's so true. But you'd see that giant

00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:05.760
castle and there's rides everywhere and

00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:06.960
you you would have no idea what the

00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:08.319
experience of that ride would have been

00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:08.639
like or the teacups,

00:58:08.318 --> 00:58:11.119
>> right?

00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:14.879
>> It's nonsense. It's fun for kids,

00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:16.798
>> but also would make them feel

00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:18.640
amazing, but also adding what this

00:58:16.798 --> 00:58:20.239
vibration stuff does and sound and music

00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:21.440
and all these other things. You can put

00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:22.719
them all together and be like you could

00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.200
feel like a god.

00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:24.719
>> Yeah.

00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:26.879
>> If lightning hit the thing, you'd be

00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:29.039
like, "What the I don't know." It's I

00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:30.798
just had that wild idea one day. It's an

00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:32.960
interesting idea because if you think

00:58:30.798 --> 00:58:36.159
people have always been fascinated by

00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:40.159
achieving novel experiences and what

00:58:36.159 --> 00:58:43.039
more novel experience than a 2,300,000

00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:44.639
stone structure that's perfectly aligned

00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:46.960
to true north, south, east, and west

00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:47.279
aligns to the stars of Orion's belt.

00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:51.599
>> Yes.

00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:53.119
>> You lie inside a stone box and the

00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:55.119
vibrations hit you and you're in that

00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:56.400
box.

00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:58.318
more more

00:58:56.400 --> 00:59:00.400
>> and naturally you go out of the body.

00:58:58.318 --> 00:59:02.079
>> What it who knows what it does to the

00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:03.680
body and the mind because we know that

00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:06.079
the mind is capable of producing

00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:07.598
indogenous psychedelic chemicals. We

00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:09.519
also know that people have a very

00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:12.000
profound reaction to frequencies. That's

00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:14.798
why sound hits us so hard and we love

00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:16.960
music and and just vibration itself and

00:59:14.798 --> 00:59:20.318
and this sound weapon that they just

00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:23.519
recently used in Venezuela supposedly to

00:59:20.318 --> 00:59:26.798
knock out all Maduro's troops. What what

00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:29.838
could this thing have been?

00:59:26.798 --> 00:59:34.798
>> Yes. Um

00:59:29.838 --> 00:59:40.960
I am relative that the the principal

00:59:34.798 --> 00:59:46.719
actor of everything can be water

00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:49.599
uh vibrations. So sound sound

00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:52.719
but we we are uh dealing now to the

00:59:49.599 --> 00:59:57.280
third uh a third thing. So the purpose

00:59:52.719 --> 01:00:01.279
the exactly purpose of this maybe it can

00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:06.319
it can be also one more than one purpose

01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:09.760
no more than one scopus of the pyramids

01:00:06.318 --> 01:00:13.039
the pyramids intended to be now we I am

01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:15.359
100% convinced that the pyramids uh can

01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:17.199
be considered the tip of the iceberg of

01:00:15.358 --> 01:00:22.000
something

01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:25.519
uh con uh of something very uh huge BJ

01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:28.318
that is composed by things that are

01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:31.679
below the earth and the pyramids that

01:00:28.318 --> 01:00:34.079
are up at the surface of the earth.

01:00:31.679 --> 01:00:36.639
>> So what do you think the reason for the

01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:39.280
design of the pyramid in that specific

01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:42.239
geometric shape?

01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:47.440
Uh yes. Uh probably because they have to

01:00:42.239 --> 01:00:51.759
resonate with the universe in in uh in

01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:53.519
uh in some uh

01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:55.280
in

01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:58.000
they they have to resonate with the with

01:00:55.280 --> 01:01:03.359
the universe. You know the the universe

01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:06.480
uh the universe uh uh jaw it is uh it is

01:01:03.358 --> 01:01:10.000
not complicated. is simple

01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:12.639
because the universe is constituted by

01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:18.159
things the matter the particles the

01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:20.239
light yes but everything is uh regulated

01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:22.879
by some constants there are the

01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:25.598
constants so the velocity the speed of

01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:31.039
the light c

01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:32.960
uh 3 * 10 to the 8 uh kilometers/s

01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:34.880
then you have so the velocity of the

01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:37.358
light so you have the electric

01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:38.960
constants, the magnetic constants that

01:01:37.358 --> 01:01:42.639
are

01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:46.400
uh that arranges very well the law of

01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:51.358
the universe. So it is important that

01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:53.920
something that has to uh be well related

01:01:51.358 --> 01:01:57.920
to the place that we live to the

01:01:53.920 --> 01:02:02.480
universe has to contain very precisely

01:01:57.920 --> 01:02:05.039
the dimensions of uh recasting the

01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:06.559
constants of the universe

01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:08.239
>> and that's what you think the pyramids

01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:11.599
did?

01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:14.000
>> Personally yes personally yes

01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:17.519
>> how old do you think they are?

01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:20.000
Yes. So yes on the sorry the the Italian

01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:21.358
starts when [laughter]

01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:24.079
I start speaking Italian.

01:02:21.358 --> 01:02:27.078
>> No it's okay. It's okay.

01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:27.079
Erh

01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:37.358
the thing that uh we can say for

01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:40.480
certainly is that the pyramids are older

01:02:37.358 --> 01:02:45.838
than the dates that are written on the

01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:48.159
uh typical history books. So to see

01:02:45.838 --> 01:02:51.358
something that to say something very

01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:53.440
precisely we have to go back in time uh

01:02:51.358 --> 01:02:56.960
into the zapi.

01:02:53.440 --> 01:03:00.480
So more than 36

01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:06.079
thousands years ago something happened

01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:10.000
to the earth. So uh the zapi uh began

01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:13.039
and in a time belonging the zeppy and

01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:15.920
the great flood were built the pyramid

01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:18.318
the pyramids.

01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:19.599
>> So like what I'm sending you something

01:03:18.318 --> 01:03:22.079
Jamie that's very interesting.

01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:23.760
>> Yes. Um, so

01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:25.599
do you have an idea? Do you do you have

01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:26.559
an estimation like what what is your

01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:28.720
personal belief?

01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:31.839
>> Yes.

01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:33.759
We can't say exactly the year.

01:03:31.838 --> 01:03:36.558
>> So Zepti, let's let's explain to people

01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:39.440
what that is since we're I sometimes

01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:42.160
forget. Zepy is the thing that I

01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:43.760
described to Zahi Has and he dismissed

01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:45.679
it. But there's this I've never heard of

01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:46.799
this.

01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:47.199
>> It's [clears throat] an ancient kings

01:03:46.798 --> 01:03:49.280
list.

01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:52.960
>> Yeah. And it's a list of pharaohs that

01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:55.280
goes back past 30,000 years. Yes. And um

01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:57.679
it's very inconvenient for modern

01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:59.039
academics. And so they like to portray

01:03:57.679 --> 01:04:02.159
it as myth.

01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:05.359
>> And then when it gets to the age of

01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:08.078
historically accurate pharaohs that we

01:04:05.358 --> 01:04:10.960
know of, Kufu and Cafrey, then they

01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:12.720
allow those hieroglyphs. Yes.

01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:14.639
>> But when you get all the way back to the

01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:16.078
30,000 years ago, they like to say that

01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:17.598
that's just mythology.

01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:21.280
>> Yes, it's true.

01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:24.280
But it is a matter of fact that Zep we

01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:24.280
have

01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:29.680
we have also other ancient megalytics

01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:32.079
that are very old recognized very old.

01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:34.239
So we have to deal with that.

01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:35.440
>> Well go back

01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:37.919
is a big problem also

01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:38.400
>> but more than 11,000 years old for sure.

01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:39.039
>> Yeah.

01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:40.960
>> Yeah.

01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:42.884
>> And as we saw

01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:44.000
>> here it is. This is something that um

01:04:42.884 --> 01:04:46.159
[clears throat] um I actually just

01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:47.838
talked to Graham Hancock about. This is

01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:49.679
Stella is a limestone inscription

01:04:47.838 --> 01:04:51.440
discovered in 1858 near the great

01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:54.239
pyramid complex of Giza. And the text

01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:59.280
describes a pharaoh kufu who ruled from

01:04:54.239 --> 01:05:02.239
2589 to 2566 BC visiting the site and

01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:04.798
ordering restorations to existing

01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:06.798
structures including a temple associated

01:05:04.798 --> 01:05:09.358
with the goddess Isis. The stellar

01:05:06.798 --> 01:05:11.280
refers to Isis as the mistress of the

01:05:09.358 --> 01:05:12.558
pyramid, a title that has raised

01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:15.119
questions about whether parts of the

01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:17.680
Giza plateau were already considered

01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:19.599
sacred before Kufu's reign. And although

01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:22.318
most Egyptologists date the Stella

01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:25.599
itself to the 26th dynasty, more than

01:05:22.318 --> 01:05:27.279
2,000 years after Kufu, its wording

01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:30.160
continues to draw attention because it

01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:32.640
portrays the pharaoh as a restorer

01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:34.078
rather than the original builder.

01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:35.759
Whether inscription provides older

01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:38.079
tradition or reflects later religious

01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:42.400
interpretation remains debated. But if

01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:44.720
this is accurate, this describes Kufu as

01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:49.280
restoring the pyramid. Yeah.

01:05:44.719 --> 01:05:52.239
>> Now this exists throughout history. Um

01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:54.960
the temple of Tinoitlan

01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:56.879
uh where the Aztecs had when when they

01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:59.039
described it, they described it as the

01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:01.440
place where the gods were born. Yeah.

01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:03.760
>> And they found it. Like people think the

01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:04.079
Aztecs made the pyramids. They did not.

01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:06.559
>> No,

01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:09.200
>> they there was some sort of a previous

01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:10.720
civilization that lived in Mexico prior

01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:12.879
to the people that called themselves the

01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:14.959
Aztecs or what we call the Aztecs and

01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:19.119
they built. So there's a longstanding

01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:20.880
history of people repurposing existing

01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:23.358
structures and claiming them as their

01:06:20.880 --> 01:06:24.880
own. And if this Stella is accurate and

01:06:23.358 --> 01:06:28.400
this was also in Fingerprints of the

01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:30.720
Gods, Graham Hancock's book. Um, so I I

01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:32.960
sent this to Graham and his reaction was

01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:36.959
pretty interesting. What he said

01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:38.480
>> to me was that um there's a strong

01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:41.039
suggestion that the Kufu pyramid might

01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:42.798
have been one of the three subsidiary

01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:44.880
structures alongside the Great Pyramid's

01:06:42.798 --> 01:06:47.280
eastern flank and all that looked like

01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:49.519
damaging e evidence against the orthodox

01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:51.119
chronology of ancient Egypt. It also

01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:54.239
challenged the consensus view that the

01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:58.798
Giza pyramids had been built as tombs

01:06:54.239 --> 01:07:02.239
and only as tombs. Uh however s uh uh

01:06:58.798 --> 01:07:05.358
rather than investigating the statements

01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:07.759
u from the stella the Egypt childiffs ch

01:07:05.358 --> 01:07:09.920
uh they chose to devalue them in his his

01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:10.960
quotes they chose to say h that's just

01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:12.960
inconvenient

01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:17.440
>> but if it's if they are describing it

01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:20.000
that way that that seems like this is a

01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:24.559
longstanding tradition of people finding

01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:26.880
things that exist. the earth's clearly

01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:29.440
eg ancient Egypt itself, dynastic Egypt

01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:32.079
is a very complex society, very complex

01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:34.318
and very advanced society, even if they

01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:36.318
didn't build that stuff. But it seems

01:07:34.318 --> 01:07:41.199
like they're saying the restore.

01:07:36.318 --> 01:07:45.279
>> Yes. Yes. I I agree with you, Joe. Um

01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:47.759
I tell you uh there are um some facts

01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:50.480
that we have to observe because I am

01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:53.520
used to observe

01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:55.440
before I I have I I say something I have

01:07:53.519 --> 01:08:00.400
to observe.

01:07:55.440 --> 01:08:02.639
So I am not um how you say an expert of

01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:05.039
pyramids because I am an engineer. I

01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:08.558
work on satellites. I am a space

01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:10.480
engineer. I'm I'm not a

01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:15.720
an Egyptologist

01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:15.719
like that, but I can observe

01:08:15.838 --> 01:08:24.679
in inside the pyramids

01:08:19.838 --> 01:08:24.679
they found a lot of salt

01:08:25.838 --> 01:08:32.238
that were uh attached on the walls. So

01:08:29.759 --> 01:08:34.798
they find the salt. Why there is why

01:08:32.238 --> 01:08:37.838
there was salt there?

01:08:34.798 --> 01:08:40.880
First, second,

01:08:37.838 --> 01:08:43.119
the shafts that we are dealing now, if

01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:48.039
we want to clean the shafts, why there

01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:48.039
is debris? Why they are tapped?

01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:56.880
No. So,

01:08:51.920 --> 01:09:01.119
if the great flood is a an historical uh

01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:04.239
parameter, recognize it. So let's say uh

01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:05.759
11 11,000 12,000 years ago let's say

01:09:04.238 --> 01:09:08.718
something like that I don't remember

01:09:05.759 --> 01:09:13.920
precisely the zeppi which is not

01:09:08.719 --> 01:09:17.920
recognized is 36,000 in the past so

01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:20.319
between the zepi and the great flood

01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:22.960
we can locate the pyramids and the

01:09:20.319 --> 01:09:26.080
sphinx.

01:09:22.960 --> 01:09:28.880
Wow. So the great flood we're looking at

01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:31.359
11,000 plus years ago. Zepte you're

01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:35.359
looking at 30,000 plus years ago.

01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:38.719
>> Yes, we can say I'm an engineer. I am I

01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:42.000
I put myself in the center between 30

01:09:38.719 --> 01:09:45.198
36,000 and 11,000. See if you can find

01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:47.520
some images of salt in the in the great

01:09:45.198 --> 01:09:50.960
pyramids because it it is quite

01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:54.640
fascinating and if there was some sort

01:09:50.960 --> 01:09:57.439
of a massive rise of sea and massive

01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:59.360
flooding which is depicted in every

01:09:57.439 --> 01:10:02.799
single ancient religion. Yes.

01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:05.119
>> From epic of Gilgamesh to the Hopi talk

01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:06.960
about it. I mean it's like almost all

01:10:05.119 --> 01:10:09.198
cultures have a story. Obviously Noah

01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:12.319
and the ark and the flood in the Bible,

01:10:09.198 --> 01:10:14.960
but this salt

01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:17.679
>> Joe two months ago I went for the first

01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:22.158
time to visit the pyramids and I found

01:10:17.679 --> 01:10:24.000
salt on the wall. There is still salt.

01:10:22.158 --> 01:10:24.479
>> And you think that salt is probably

01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:27.840
because

01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:28.479
>> I taste it is of water of uh the sea.

01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:32.079
>> Wow.

01:10:28.479 --> 01:10:34.718
>> Yes. I forgot to to to to bring it to

01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:37.039
you. Not just that, but there's so much

01:10:34.719 --> 01:10:39.119
salt that there's still salt there

01:10:37.039 --> 01:10:41.600
11,000 years later,

01:10:39.119 --> 01:10:43.439
>> which is really extraordinary.

01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:45.679
>> And so you think that that salt is

01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:46.960
because the entire area was flooded. And

01:10:45.679 --> 01:10:48.800
that's the reason why the shafts were

01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:51.600
flooded and filled with debris. Yes.

01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:53.360
>> Right. Topped off with debris cuz

01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:55.280
everything just flooded into there. And

01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:57.519
then when the sea receded,

01:10:55.279 --> 01:10:58.559
>> you're so many years later, you're left

01:10:57.520 --> 01:11:01.600
with salt everywhere.

01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:04.640
>> Yeah. And that's why uh the reason that

01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:06.880
uh I don't want that people goes to work

01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:10.079
inside the shaft because are dangerous

01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:12.319
can collapse the the the

01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:15.279
debris can collapse because you can have

01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:16.079
bubble of of of air and so it's

01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:16.880
dangerous

01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:18.079
>> right right

01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:20.400
>> robots has to go

01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:22.158
>> right well it makes more sense robots

01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:23.839
are safer and it's also like you

01:11:22.158 --> 01:11:26.799
>> so everything is connected the great

01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:29.279
flood the zeppy and the pyramids

01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:30.320
>> wow if that turns out convinced with

01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:32.479
that

01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:36.319
>> I I am convinced

01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:39.198
>> that maybe 18 I I go in the center 18

01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:41.198
18,000 or something like that. 20

01:11:39.198 --> 01:11:43.279
between 18,000 and 20,000.

01:11:41.198 --> 01:11:46.639
>> Well, what's crazy is I mean that pushes

01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:46.960
back that ancient civilization by 14,000

01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:47.600
years.

01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:50.000
>> Yeah.

01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:52.079
>> Which is at least 14,000 years. I mean

01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:54.399
John Anthony West thought maybe 30,000

01:11:52.079 --> 01:11:56.399
plus years to the construction of the

01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:58.879
Sphinx. That's what he thought. And when

01:11:56.399 --> 01:12:01.519
Robert Shock from Boston University, the

01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:04.480
geologist that started doing work on the

01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:05.679
the the pyramid and then excuse me, the

01:12:04.479 --> 01:12:06.319
um temple of the Sphinx.

01:12:05.679 --> 01:12:07.920
>> The Sphinx. Yes.

01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:08.399
>> Yeah. And the water erosion. He's like,

01:12:07.920 --> 01:12:09.279
"This is

01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:11.439
>> it's vertical."

01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:13.679
>> Yes. It's vertical fissures that come

01:12:11.439 --> 01:12:15.359
from thousands of years of rainfall. And

01:12:13.679 --> 01:12:16.960
the last time there was like significant

01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:18.238
rainfall in the Nile Valley like that

01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:18.560
was 9,000 years ago.

01:12:18.238 --> 01:12:20.238
>> Yeah.

01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:23.679
>> So you're dealing with thousands of

01:12:20.238 --> 01:12:25.759
years before that of rain to achieve

01:12:23.679 --> 01:12:29.279
that kind of erosion. Yes, it is

01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:32.079
necessary now when that's why this

01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:35.039
research and this activity that hope we

01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:38.000
will do it is very important.

01:12:35.039 --> 01:12:41.439
>> Yeah, because this it is able to rewrite

01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:43.840
everything it mean rewrite everything.

01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:47.198
Imagine if you could get something from

01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:50.000
down in those shafts in those corridors

01:12:47.198 --> 01:12:50.399
something that you could date.

01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:53.439
>> Yeah.

01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:55.599
>> And you get a date back of 26,000 BC.

01:12:53.439 --> 01:12:58.079
you go what

01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:59.920
you know I mean this is it's not outside

01:12:58.079 --> 01:13:01.679
of the realm of possibility that's

01:12:59.920 --> 01:13:03.920
what's so crazy about this it just

01:13:01.679 --> 01:13:07.119
really does seem like we are getting

01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:11.199
more and more evidence that things are

01:13:07.119 --> 01:13:13.119
far older than conventional wisdom than

01:13:11.198 --> 01:13:15.279
conventional the conventional narrative

01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:17.599
that's taught in schools

01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:21.039
>> yes I agree

01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:25.039
I agree because uh as I told you before

01:13:21.039 --> 01:13:28.560
this is time this is the time to to see

01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:31.840
effective what we which is the exact

01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:33.199
date of construction who made them and

01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:34.880
how they made them.

01:13:33.198 --> 01:13:37.279
>> But how could we figure out how they

01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:38.880
made it? That's the crazy thing, right?

01:13:37.279 --> 01:13:40.960
Because we don't even understand the

01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:41.279
technology they used to cut them.

01:13:40.960 --> 01:13:43.520
>> Yeah.

01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:44.880
>> We don't know what they had. And that's

01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:47.040
the other thing. If you're dealing with

01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:49.359
something that's 20,000 plus years old,

01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:52.079
15,000 years old, what's going to be

01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:54.639
left? All the metal's gone. Everything

01:13:52.079 --> 01:13:56.640
is eroded. The earth is reclaimed. Most

01:13:54.640 --> 01:14:00.560
things really the thing that you have

01:13:56.640 --> 01:14:04.880
left is stone which is pretty crazy.

01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:06.960
>> Yeah. And uh if we see uh the the rooms

01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:09.440
all the structures that are currently

01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:11.198
inside let's say the the chaops pyramid

01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:14.639
which I I like it a lot. The grand

01:14:11.198 --> 01:14:16.639
gallery is very nice fascinating.

01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:20.719
They have a precision incredible

01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:23.039
precision. All those big huge stones

01:14:20.719 --> 01:14:25.920
that com that is composing the grand

01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:27.279
gallery is very exciting. I like it a

01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:31.440
lot.

01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:34.880
>> Did you have uh any sort of fascination

01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:37.039
about the pyramids before this or

01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:40.239
>> Joe? I remember when I was young, very

01:14:37.039 --> 01:14:44.560
young, I used to

01:14:40.238 --> 01:14:48.238
uh I had um uh it

01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:51.280
uh how you say, I had um a a personal

01:14:48.238 --> 01:14:55.599
computer, very old one, and I was always

01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:57.759
playing always on um on something that

01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:59.679
uh

01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:03.440
and there was the pyramids. They were

01:14:59.679 --> 01:15:07.119
always the pyramids. And there in that

01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:10.559
meantime I I realized that I liked the

01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:12.559
pyramids and so I I was very young.

01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:14.000
>> So the personal beauty just researching

01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:15.760
the pyramids is that what it was like

01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:16.800
what do you say just looking at pictures

01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:18.320
and images?

01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:19.840
>> Yes. Yes. On the pyramids.

01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:22.799
>> So you always were fascinated by but did

01:15:19.840 --> 01:15:24.480
you have an understanding or even uh any

01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:25.840
questions about the timeline of

01:15:24.479 --> 01:15:26.479
civilization before this?

01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:28.159
>> No. Never.

01:15:26.479 --> 01:15:28.479
>> So it only happened within the last few

01:15:28.158 --> 01:15:34.000
years.

01:15:28.479 --> 01:15:36.639
>> Yes. Yes. Erh I began uh I began uh

01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:40.640
working uh so uh being interested on

01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:42.960
pyramids uh starting from 2018.

01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:44.239
>> So it was right after you started

01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:45.840
>> doing this research. Yes.

01:15:44.238 --> 01:15:46.959
>> And you started saying okay what is

01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:49.920
this?

01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:55.279
>> Yeah. And so when you start to to

01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:58.158
research on something that that is uh

01:15:55.279 --> 01:16:01.599
our history, our past, our origins

01:15:58.158 --> 01:16:04.479
because we our origins are there. So we

01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:08.960
have to fetch we have to find what there

01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:12.158
is there because it is important that uh

01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:16.960
we uh it is important to research our

01:16:12.158 --> 01:16:20.000
origin because in this meantime humanity

01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:23.679
does not know we don't know who we are.

01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:27.600
We don't know our origins. We don't know

01:16:23.679 --> 01:16:31.679
anything of of who we are. And the most

01:16:27.600 --> 01:16:33.440
of the answers can be found in the um

01:16:31.679 --> 01:16:35.119
studying the pyramids.

01:16:33.439 --> 01:16:37.119
>> Well, it certainly seems to be the

01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:38.640
greatest accomplishment that ancient

01:16:37.119 --> 01:16:39.599
humans had ever created.

01:16:38.640 --> 01:16:42.000
>> Yes.

01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:44.880
>> And if these humans were far more

01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:47.119
ancient than we currently believe, that

01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:51.119
is really really interesting.

01:16:47.119 --> 01:16:53.119
>> Yeah. And uh it is for me very it it is

01:16:51.119 --> 01:16:54.880
something that I have it always in my

01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:57.679
mind

01:16:54.880 --> 01:17:00.719
only to know how they did how they cut

01:16:57.679 --> 01:17:03.199
the stones how they have transported the

01:17:00.719 --> 01:17:06.480
stones and how I don't know how how how

01:17:03.198 --> 01:17:08.719
everything how how like what gave them

01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:10.399
the idea like were there any

01:17:08.719 --> 01:17:13.520
>> previous pyramids cuz it's weird because

01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:14.639
the older you go the more complex the

01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:17.040
structures are

01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:17.360
>> and the newer ones are kind of shitty.

01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:19.119
Yes.

01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:21.759
>> Yeah.

01:17:19.119 --> 01:17:24.399
>> So, okay. So, we went from that we

01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:26.079
showed this antenna and it goes into the

01:17:24.399 --> 01:17:27.920
supposed sarcophagus and these

01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:29.679
vibrations. What other things do you

01:17:27.920 --> 01:17:33.199
show in your presentation that are

01:17:29.679 --> 01:17:35.520
interesting? Uh I um I showed

01:17:33.198 --> 01:17:38.158
principally all the structures that are

01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:40.960
uh that are uh under the the Cafra

01:17:38.158 --> 01:17:46.000
pyramid and also under each pyramids.

01:17:40.960 --> 01:17:50.880
And uh also I described the uh method uh

01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:54.158
uh on how going

01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:57.920
below without drilling anything. And so

01:17:54.158 --> 01:18:00.719
I uh showed them I showed them that

01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:04.960
there are the entrances are there on our

01:18:00.719 --> 01:18:07.520
eyes. Everyone can see those uh those

01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:10.480
shafts. And so why we we we are not

01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:14.719
exploring them? Why they are so dirty?

01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:17.759
Why they are so without uh any kind of

01:18:14.719 --> 01:18:19.520
work of renew methods? Yeah.

01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:21.039
>> I don't know why.

01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:25.280
>> Well, it seems like there's limited

01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:28.880
resources first of all. BS. And also it

01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:31.519
seems like Egypt an entire

01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:32.960
>> economy is based on tourism. An immense

01:18:31.520 --> 01:18:34.719
amount of tourism because it's so

01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:35.920
fantastic. There's people from all over

01:18:34.719 --> 01:18:40.480
the world make a pilgrimage.

01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:45.199
>> I I also I also I also find uh a method

01:18:40.479 --> 01:18:47.039
to uh combine so not stopping the the

01:18:45.198 --> 01:18:49.678
tourism. No. So it is possible to

01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:52.719
combine the work and also the tourism.

01:18:49.679 --> 01:18:56.000
So we can delimitate the area inside the

01:18:52.719 --> 01:18:58.880
area we work and outside the area safety

01:18:56.000 --> 01:19:00.560
all the people can visit the py the Jes

01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:03.279
not only that I think it will enhance

01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:05.360
tourism because if this speculation

01:19:03.279 --> 01:19:06.960
proves to be fruitful and you start

01:19:05.359 --> 01:19:09.039
looking under there and you find that

01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:10.239
there there is evidence to all this it's

01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:13.359
just going to make more people want to

01:19:10.238 --> 01:19:15.519
go. Yes, I I agree with you. But you

01:19:13.359 --> 01:19:17.599
imagine, Joe,

01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:20.480
we will find

01:19:17.600 --> 01:19:24.000
the structures that are underneath. No.

01:19:20.479 --> 01:19:27.039
And maybe we can try to build a huge uh

01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:30.399
lift that carry people downstairs in

01:19:27.039 --> 01:19:33.198
safety always. Or maybe not below for a

01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:36.799
lot, but at a certain at a certain

01:19:33.198 --> 01:19:39.198
depth. So they can also travel along the

01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:42.079
horizontal corridors that are present.

01:19:39.198 --> 01:19:46.238
And so they go up from the shafts and

01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:48.880
they they go they they they go up from

01:19:46.238 --> 01:19:51.839
uh to the Cafrey pyramid and they go

01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:55.039
away from so the entrance here and they

01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:56.480
and they go

01:19:55.039 --> 01:19:57.840
intercepting the pyramids.

01:19:56.479 --> 01:19:59.359
>> That would be amazing.

01:19:57.840 --> 01:20:00.000
>> Yeah. I mean it would just be much more

01:19:59.359 --> 01:20:00.479
tourism.

01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:03.279
>> Yes.

01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:05.039
>> Yeah. And also the all eyes would be on

01:20:03.279 --> 01:20:07.439
Egypt. I mean it would probably be a

01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:11.198
huge boost to their economy. It would

01:20:07.439 --> 01:20:12.559
probably be a huge boost to archaeology

01:20:11.198 --> 01:20:14.399
because more young people would get

01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:17.600
fascinated by it, want to study it.

01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:21.439
>> Yeah. And and imagine imagine also this.

01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:24.320
What can we find below

01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:26.559
down there? What can what can we find?

01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:29.840
This is a question that I am asking

01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:32.320
because if we watch the the the the

01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:34.800
slide concerning the shaft that I want

01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:39.119
to that I want to clean, there are

01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:41.760
things inside it. It I am showing that

01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:45.359
that that there are things located

01:20:41.760 --> 01:20:46.480
inside the uh chamber. Look, there is

01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:47.439
something.

01:20:46.479 --> 01:20:48.718
>> What What is that?

01:20:47.439 --> 01:20:49.759
>> What are you seeing when you we're

01:20:48.719 --> 01:20:51.198
talking about the shaft where it goes

01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:52.400
all the way down to the bottom and

01:20:51.198 --> 01:20:55.359
there's a chamber. Is that what you

01:20:52.399 --> 01:20:57.839
mean? That one. Yes.

01:20:55.359 --> 01:20:58.719
>> Right there. So that structure that is

01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:00.960
at the bottom.

01:20:58.719 --> 01:21:02.158
>> What's that? I don't know. Was that

01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:04.319
>> right?

01:21:02.158 --> 01:21:06.158
>> It's very huge.

01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:08.238
>> Very huge. And it's at the bottom of the

01:21:06.158 --> 01:21:08.639
shaft.

01:21:08.238 --> 01:21:10.879
>> Yeah.

01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:12.960
>> Look the horizontal corridors.

01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:15.119
>> Mhm.

01:21:12.960 --> 01:21:18.000
And so there's more horizontal cor

01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:20.559
corridors during the when you traverse

01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:21.840
down into the shaft. Then you there's

01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:24.480
you intercept

01:21:21.840 --> 01:21:25.360
>> right other corridors. And how large are

01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:28.399
those corridors?

01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:30.799
>> By about 3 m tall.

01:21:28.399 --> 01:21:32.479
>> So there's three So there's these 3 m

01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:34.480
tall shafts

01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:35.519
>> that go to the side. These corridors

01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:36.158
that go to the side.

01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:38.880
>> Yes.

01:21:36.158 --> 01:21:39.599
>> Along the way and then also down at the

01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:41.199
very bottom.

01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:43.120
>> Yes.

01:21:41.198 --> 01:21:45.439
>> And you're convinced of this. This is

01:21:43.119 --> 01:21:47.359
all data, right?

01:21:45.439 --> 01:21:49.279
Um,

01:21:47.359 --> 01:21:50.319
>> and no one has ever sent a camera down

01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:53.599
there or anything.

01:21:50.319 --> 01:21:56.960
>> Those are human man-made structure like

01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:57.360
uh a ring on another ring.

01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:00.158
>> Mhm.

01:21:57.359 --> 01:22:02.079
>> Look, it is it is very clear, right? If

01:22:00.158 --> 01:22:04.399
you observe the structure, those are man

01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:06.639
man-made and they go deep, very deep.

01:22:04.399 --> 01:22:07.279
And you can see the rubbish that is uh

01:22:06.639 --> 01:22:08.159
on the bottom.

01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:08.639
>> All the debris.

01:22:08.158 --> 01:22:10.879
>> The debris.

01:22:08.639 --> 01:22:14.400
>> And that debris you think was a lot of

01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:18.880
it because of the flood. I am 100% sure

01:22:14.399 --> 01:22:22.399
of this. Yeah. So the pyramids or the

01:22:18.880 --> 01:22:25.359
Giza plateau it seems to stop the

01:22:22.399 --> 01:22:27.839
functionality the the

01:22:25.359 --> 01:22:29.359
working. We don't know which kind of

01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:33.360
work

01:22:29.359 --> 01:22:36.799
uh were used to do but stopped because

01:22:33.359 --> 01:22:40.399
of the great flood. So we can go back in

01:22:36.800 --> 01:22:42.480
time in uh 12,000 years ago. And when

01:22:40.399 --> 01:22:43.759
people's the people that don't know if

01:22:42.479 --> 01:22:45.759
you're hearing this like what great

01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:47.840
flood that's just not that's just myth.

01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:49.760
There's a thing called the younger dus

01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:51.440
impact theory and the younger dry impact

01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:54.960
theory group that's been studying this

01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:57.919
they now know that there was impacts to

01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:59.520
the earth that are allowed around the

01:22:57.920 --> 01:23:01.119
11,800

01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:04.000
year mark and then I believe I believe

01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:05.599
again in the 10,000year range. Uh Randle

01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:09.279
Carlson is probably the best guy to talk

01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:11.360
to about that, but that they find high

01:23:09.279 --> 01:23:13.840
levels of aridium, which is very common

01:23:11.359 --> 01:23:16.158
in space and very rare on Earth, but

01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:19.840
there's a layer of it. They also find

01:23:16.158 --> 01:23:21.439
these nano diamonds uh that they also

01:23:19.840 --> 01:23:22.960
discovered during the first Trinity

01:23:21.439 --> 01:23:25.519
explosion when they detonated the atomic

01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:27.198
bomb. They find these microscopic glass

01:23:25.520 --> 01:23:29.440
particles that are created by the

01:23:27.198 --> 01:23:32.559
intense explosion interacting with the

01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:35.119
sand. So what is it called? Trinitite

01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:35.920
trit is that what it's called? What are

01:23:35.119 --> 01:23:37.760
those?

01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:39.760
>> Nuclear glass. What is that called?

01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:42.000
Tritonite. Is that what it's called?

01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:43.119
>> Some uh some something related to

01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:43.520
vitrification.

01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:44.000
>> Yes.

01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:47.520
>> Okay.

01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:49.119
>> So, this exists all over the world. And

01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:51.360
it exists all over the world when they

01:23:49.119 --> 01:23:51.679
do a core sample at the same depth.

01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:54.399
Yeah.

01:23:51.679 --> 01:23:55.920
>> And so this is a very strong scientific

01:23:54.399 --> 01:23:56.319
indicator of evidence that we've been

01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:56.800
hit.

01:23:56.319 --> 01:23:57.119
>> Yes.

01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:59.360
>> Yeah.

01:23:57.119 --> 01:24:00.960
>> But another scientific indicator is the

01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:02.158
debris. Why there is that debris there?

01:24:00.960 --> 01:24:02.800
>> Right? Why so much?

01:24:02.158 --> 01:24:03.839
>> So much,

01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:06.960
>> right? Why so much?

01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:09.360
>> If if we do carrotage drilling of that

01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:12.399
debris inside the shaft, I don't know

01:24:09.359 --> 01:24:14.559
how how how deep we can go. So why there

01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:15.359
is all the all that debris there?

01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:17.520
>> We don't know,

01:24:15.359 --> 01:24:19.439
>> right? But which makes sense if there is

01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:20.880
a great flood that fills the pyramid

01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:23.039
with salt water. Yes.

01:24:20.880 --> 01:24:25.760
>> That it probably washed all that sand

01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:26.158
into that gigantic vertical shaft.

01:24:25.760 --> 01:24:27.199
>> Yeah.

01:24:26.158 --> 01:24:30.719
>> Completely makes sense.

01:24:27.198 --> 01:24:33.359
>> Yeah. And I tell you, Joe, we if we do

01:24:30.719 --> 01:24:36.800
the chemical chemical a chemical

01:24:33.359 --> 01:24:40.319
exploration of that debris, we can find

01:24:36.800 --> 01:24:43.360
also a certain density of salt because

01:24:40.319 --> 01:24:46.238
were mixed in the past by salty water

01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:48.238
and debris and soil also.

01:24:46.238 --> 01:24:50.718
>> Also, you could get dirt from the very

01:24:48.238 --> 01:24:53.759
bottom. Yeah. And get some sort of

01:24:50.719 --> 01:24:55.119
organic material and carbonate that. And

01:24:53.760 --> 01:24:57.679
maybe you can get an understanding of

01:24:55.119 --> 01:24:59.279
like maybe when stuff was washed down to

01:24:57.679 --> 01:25:01.199
the bottom of that shaft.

01:24:59.279 --> 01:25:02.719
>> Very interesting. Yeah. Yes, it's

01:25:01.198 --> 01:25:04.879
possible. Can be possible.

01:25:02.719 --> 01:25:06.639
>> Crazy if they did that and it lines up

01:25:04.880 --> 01:25:09.520
directly with the younger gi impact

01:25:06.639 --> 01:25:10.960
theory. I mean, that would be incredible

01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:14.320
evidence.

01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:16.239
>> Either way, just what it is that we know

01:25:14.319 --> 01:25:18.319
that there's immense shafts. We know

01:25:16.238 --> 01:25:20.000
that they go many, many meters deep into

01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:22.960
the earth. And we know that there's

01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:24.880
these horizontal shafts along the way.

01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:29.079
Hey, these corridors along the way, like

01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:29.079
all of it is just nuts.

01:25:29.198 --> 01:25:32.238
>> We [laughter]

01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:34.638
saw I was looking at the Osiris shaft

01:25:32.238 --> 01:25:35.279
here. Um the shaft.

01:25:34.639 --> 01:25:35.679
>> Mhm.

01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:38.238
>> Okay.

01:25:35.679 --> 01:25:39.679
>> Just near these other ones. Uh when they

01:25:38.238 --> 01:25:42.238
found it, there was water down there.

01:25:39.679 --> 01:25:45.600
They had to get out. And the water is

01:25:42.238 --> 01:25:47.279
not only cold, ice cold. It says it's

01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:47.920
clean enough to be drinking water.

01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:49.920
>> Whoa.

01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:51.920
>> And I don't know that it doesn't It

01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:54.319
sounded like it refills itself. Oh, so

01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:56.800
there's a spring down there. Well, that

01:25:54.319 --> 01:25:59.279
is also the problem with the labyrinth.

01:25:56.800 --> 01:26:02.320
So, the labyrinth that they have where

01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:04.238
there's this enormous atrium and this 40

01:26:02.319 --> 01:26:05.439
m long metallic object that apparently

01:26:04.238 --> 01:26:06.799
is underneath there. And this is through

01:26:05.439 --> 01:26:08.559
ground penetrating radar that they

01:26:06.800 --> 01:26:10.560
discover this. I don't think they know

01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:14.560
what that metal is either. I think it's

01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:17.440
an unknown metal. But they built a dam

01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:19.600
there I believe in the 1960s and to help

01:26:17.439 --> 01:26:21.919
the farmers and unfortunately that

01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:23.520
flooded that whole area. So because they

01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:26.158
changed the direction of the water and

01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:28.800
built this dam the water table rose

01:26:26.158 --> 01:26:30.079
>> and that entire labyrinth is now filled

01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:32.079
with water.

01:26:30.079 --> 01:26:33.439
>> But through ground penetrating radar

01:26:32.079 --> 01:26:35.119
they've been able to get this accurate

01:26:33.439 --> 01:26:36.879
assessment of the dimensions of it. And

01:26:35.119 --> 01:26:39.519
then they go back to the descriptions of

01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:42.400
Herodotus who described it. See if you

01:26:39.520 --> 01:26:44.719
can pull that up. uh Herodotus described

01:26:42.399 --> 01:26:47.039
it as greater than the Giza plateau

01:26:44.719 --> 01:26:49.119
itself. So these labyrinths, these

01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:52.399
corridors, these atriums, these huge

01:26:49.119 --> 01:26:56.238
passageways underneath the the Great

01:26:52.399 --> 01:26:57.759
Pyramid area more complex and more

01:26:56.238 --> 01:26:58.319
spectacular than the pyramids

01:26:57.760 --> 01:26:59.520
themselves.

01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:00.639
>> Yes.

01:26:59.520 --> 01:27:03.760
>> My god.

01:27:00.639 --> 01:27:06.239
>> My god. Like what was this civilization?

01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:09.520
These people living in Africa however

01:27:06.238 --> 01:27:11.439
long ago were so much more advanced than

01:27:09.520 --> 01:27:14.239
perhaps anybody that's ever existed

01:27:11.439 --> 01:27:17.039
including us just in a different way.

01:27:14.238 --> 01:27:19.759
Including us just in a different way. H

01:27:17.039 --> 01:27:22.319
just to remark the fact Joe that there

01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:24.480
is difference between the water table

01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:27.039
which which of course is composed by

01:27:24.479 --> 01:27:31.678
drinkable water and the water that they

01:27:27.039 --> 01:27:35.760
found uh compounding the uh the Osiris

01:27:31.679 --> 01:27:39.679
shaft and the water that transported all

01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:42.239
the debris but that water was uh uh uh

01:27:39.679 --> 01:27:45.920
salty water because of the great flood.

01:27:42.238 --> 01:27:47.039
So it was uh water um of the sea

01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:48.880
composing the sea

01:27:47.039 --> 01:27:50.479
>> which makes sense when you see the salt

01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:52.560
that's all over the pyramids. This is

01:27:50.479 --> 01:27:54.799
Herodotus's quote. I've seen it myself

01:27:52.560 --> 01:27:57.360
and indeed words cannot describe it.

01:27:54.800 --> 01:27:59.440
Though the pyramids beg description and

01:27:57.359 --> 01:28:01.920
each one of them is a match for many

01:27:59.439 --> 01:28:05.439
great monuments built by Greeks, this

01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:09.119
maze surpasses even the pyramids.

01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:11.279
That is crazy. That's crazy that he said

01:28:09.119 --> 01:28:13.439
that. And if have you ever seen any of

01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:13.840
the artistic renditions of what it looks

01:28:13.439 --> 01:28:14.960
like?

01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:16.159
>> Uh, no. But

01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:18.158
>> see if you can find some of that because

01:28:16.158 --> 01:28:20.000
we did it. If anybody's interested in

01:28:18.158 --> 01:28:23.198
this, I can't recommend enough.

01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:25.679
Uncharted X. It's Ben Van Kirkwick.

01:28:23.198 --> 01:28:27.919
>> This is what apparently is underneath

01:28:25.679 --> 01:28:30.319
this area,

01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:31.119
which is just [ __ ] staggering.

01:28:30.319 --> 01:28:33.759
>> Wow. How nice.

01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:38.800
>> This is all underground. And so I think

01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:40.560
we the next uh the next um uh site that

01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:41.119
we can study can be this.

01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:42.880
>> Yeah.

01:28:41.119 --> 01:28:45.439
>> Yeah. And a

01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:47.840
>> and if you could find out what that 40 m

01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:49.919
long metallic object is, that's that's

01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:51.360
when things get weird. That's when

01:28:49.920 --> 01:28:54.381
things get real weird cuz you find a

01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:56.158
spaceship down there.

01:28:54.381 --> 01:28:58.880
[laughter]

01:28:56.158 --> 01:29:00.930
Then things get really fun. [gasps]

01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:01.679
I mean, we're Egyptian space travelers.

01:29:00.930 --> 01:29:03.198
[laughter]

01:29:01.679 --> 01:29:05.279
Why not? I mean, if they could build

01:29:03.198 --> 01:29:08.638
that, why not space? Who knows what they

01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:11.439
could do? They're lying in a gigantic

01:29:08.639 --> 01:29:15.199
stone box tripping balls. They have this

01:29:11.439 --> 01:29:17.119
huge pyramid. This the structures go how

01:29:15.198 --> 01:29:18.000
long? A kilometer. The entire thing into

01:29:17.119 --> 01:29:19.119
the earth. [laughter]

01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:21.920
>> 1.2

01:29:19.119 --> 01:29:25.519
>> 1.2 kilometers into the earth. From the

01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:26.158
base of the pyramid down 1.2 km.

01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:26.880
>> Wow.

01:29:26.158 --> 01:29:30.319
>> Wow.

01:29:26.880 --> 01:29:33.119
>> Wow. This has changed. I mean, from 2018

01:29:30.319 --> 01:29:36.319
to now, from you researching this and

01:29:33.119 --> 01:29:38.559
does this change your entire perspective

01:29:36.319 --> 01:29:41.119
of human history and and just human

01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:45.120
beings in general?

01:29:41.119 --> 01:29:48.719
>> In my personal opinion, yes. Because uh

01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:51.279
before this was a problem accepting how

01:29:48.719 --> 01:29:55.039
the pyramids were made, all those

01:29:51.279 --> 01:29:57.279
stones. But if we can if we if we are

01:29:55.039 --> 01:30:00.639
adding also the structures that are

01:29:57.279 --> 01:30:02.719
underneath I don't know what happens

01:30:00.639 --> 01:30:04.480
>> more impossible than before

01:30:02.719 --> 01:30:07.760
>> right

01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:10.079
more impossible than I mean if you'd

01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:11.360
imagine with modern technology trying to

01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:12.960
recreate something like that you're

01:30:11.359 --> 01:30:13.920
talking about an immense project that

01:30:12.960 --> 01:30:15.920
would cost

01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:17.760
>> hundreds of billions of dollars

01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:20.000
>> if not more

01:30:17.760 --> 01:30:21.840
>> and the engineering involved in it

01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:22.960
you're an engineer the engineering

01:30:21.840 --> 01:30:24.319
involved olved in doing something like

01:30:22.960 --> 01:30:25.600
that like

01:30:24.319 --> 01:30:27.599
>> how

01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:29.920
>> how they can cut the granite so

01:30:27.600 --> 01:30:32.079
precisely is impossible is impossible

01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:34.480
also today is impossible.

01:30:32.079 --> 01:30:36.880
>> So they had some sort of a technology

01:30:34.479 --> 01:30:39.279
that is far more advanced than we have.

01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:40.960
They just went in a different direction.

01:30:39.279 --> 01:30:43.198
We went in the direction of internal

01:30:40.960 --> 01:30:44.800
combustion engines and electronics

01:30:43.198 --> 01:30:46.158
>> and they probably went in some

01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:50.400
completely different direction.

01:30:46.158 --> 01:30:54.719
>> Yeah. Yes. Because uh the modern science

01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:57.839
started from a point and then as you you

01:30:54.719 --> 01:31:00.399
are you are saying right we we followed

01:30:57.840 --> 01:31:04.000
the a direction which is the direction

01:31:00.399 --> 01:31:08.000
of light because most of the our

01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:13.119
inventions our yes internal combustion

01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:16.079
uh engines and uh uh and other stuff but

01:31:13.119 --> 01:31:16.800
principally we use light because we can

01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:18.399
see

01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:21.840
We can see it. We can see light. Okay,

01:31:18.399 --> 01:31:25.839
we use light. But

01:31:21.840 --> 01:31:30.079
other other existence, other people that

01:31:25.840 --> 01:31:32.560
that was uh uh living in the past maybe

01:31:30.079 --> 01:31:33.600
use other things that we don't know.

01:31:32.560 --> 01:31:34.880
>> Maybe sound.

01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:36.480
>> Maybe sound.

01:31:34.880 --> 01:31:38.560
>> Well, it seems like it if this is

01:31:36.479 --> 01:31:40.000
generating sound and vibration, if your

01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:40.560
speculation is correct,

01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:42.639
>> yes,

01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:46.880
>> that they were obsessed with vibration

01:31:42.639 --> 01:31:50.239
and sound. Yes, they were obsessed in

01:31:46.880 --> 01:31:53.440
vibrations and sound because all the

01:31:50.238 --> 01:31:56.238
structures that I that I watched inside

01:31:53.439 --> 01:31:59.279
the inside the pyramids,

01:31:56.238 --> 01:32:02.559
they are like something that generates

01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:04.399
sound or they maintain

01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:07.199
clean the sound.

01:32:04.399 --> 01:32:08.399
>> It resonates sound echoes. It has a very

01:32:07.198 --> 01:32:12.319
specific echo to it.

01:32:08.399 --> 01:32:15.759
>> The zed like that is is magnificent. The

01:32:12.319 --> 01:32:21.119
Zet is a is perfect. It's a perfect

01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:25.039
device made by stones. It's very nice.

01:32:21.119 --> 01:32:27.599
And just how how and where did they get

01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:31.119
the understanding to construct something

01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:34.800
like this? And this this is what screws

01:32:31.119 --> 01:32:37.198
up our idea of a linear timeline of

01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:41.360
human progression in civilization to go

01:32:37.198 --> 01:32:43.279
from caveman to modern 2026 human being.

01:32:41.359 --> 01:32:44.719
We like to think that it was just, oh,

01:32:43.279 --> 01:32:46.559
we figured this out, then we figured the

01:32:44.719 --> 01:32:48.158
wheel out, then it was agriculture. Now

01:32:46.560 --> 01:32:51.280
here we are today with cars,

01:32:48.158 --> 01:32:54.079
>> but more likely there was some peaks and

01:32:51.279 --> 01:32:55.599
valleys. We rose up to a very high level

01:32:54.079 --> 01:32:57.760
probably during Egypt and it was

01:32:55.600 --> 01:33:00.079
shattered down and it took probably a

01:32:57.760 --> 01:33:00.880
long time before civilization rebuilt

01:33:00.079 --> 01:33:03.519
itself again.

01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:06.880
>> Yes, Joe. And then we are we are

01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:09.600
speaking about modern living but modern

01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:11.440
living has to be sustainable,

01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:13.360
>> right? I don't think that our modern

01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:14.000
living is so sustainable.

01:33:13.359 --> 01:33:15.198
>> No,

01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:17.119
>> no.

01:33:15.198 --> 01:33:18.000
>> I mean, even our population isn't

01:33:17.119 --> 01:33:21.119
sustainable.

01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:23.039
>> We're in population collapse in many

01:33:21.119 --> 01:33:25.119
countries in the world, South Korea,

01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:26.719
Japan, even there's arguments about

01:33:25.119 --> 01:33:28.399
America itself

01:33:26.719 --> 01:33:28.800
>> that we're in population collapse.

01:33:28.399 --> 01:33:33.119
>> Yeah.

01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:34.800
>> And we're also chaotic. We we also have

01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:36.639
a very bizarre distribution of

01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:38.400
information that's filled with nonsense

01:33:36.639 --> 01:33:39.840
and lies and propaganda.

01:33:38.399 --> 01:33:41.359
>> Yes. lies and propaganda. Yes,

01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:42.880
>> we have the government that's constantly

01:33:41.359 --> 01:33:45.359
trying to censor people and control

01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:46.880
speech and limit your ability to express

01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:48.960
yourself and complain about things so

01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:51.440
they can continue to dominate resources.

01:33:48.960 --> 01:33:53.679
You have a we have a weird society

01:33:51.439 --> 01:33:56.479
today, but it's also a society because

01:33:53.679 --> 01:33:58.880
of this access to information where you

01:33:56.479 --> 01:34:02.000
can discuss and explore things in a way

01:33:58.880 --> 01:34:04.719
that has never happened before. And that

01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:06.399
is that's the most exciting thing about

01:34:04.719 --> 01:34:10.158
our time. Yeah. Because there's so much

01:34:06.399 --> 01:34:14.479
room for discussion. I I want to if if I

01:34:10.158 --> 01:34:17.359
can um to explain you something that is

01:34:14.479 --> 01:34:19.839
maybe related to philosophy or or to

01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:21.359
other things.

01:34:19.840 --> 01:34:27.760
Erh,

01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:30.559
we have an example of how uh um

01:34:27.760 --> 01:34:34.000
modern humans are a bit strange because

01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:38.239
we we are not uh made it it is like that

01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:44.158
we are not made to research uh to or to

01:34:38.238 --> 01:34:46.319
find the uh harmonics the harmonics in

01:34:44.158 --> 01:34:49.039
our living.

01:34:46.319 --> 01:34:53.359
And so uh I just want to make you an

01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:57.519
example the uh do you remember in the

01:34:53.359 --> 01:34:57.920
80s when the uh cold fusion rises?

01:34:57.520 --> 01:34:58.639
>> Yeah.

01:34:57.920 --> 01:35:00.960
>> So

01:34:58.639 --> 01:35:03.520
>> maybe we we we are speaking about

01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:06.239
fleshman and pawns that made for the

01:35:03.520 --> 01:35:09.600
first time they they they had a glass of

01:35:06.238 --> 01:35:12.319
water and inside they made a a mini

01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:14.880
nuclear reaction reactor inside. They

01:35:12.319 --> 01:35:19.119
had some results that were very very

01:35:14.880 --> 01:35:21.679
poor results. I know but was a base to

01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:24.960
build something stronger.

01:35:21.679 --> 01:35:28.079
They put away that that experiment. So

01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:30.239
no they debunk that experiment. It was

01:35:28.079 --> 01:35:32.559
not good. It is not good because it is

01:35:30.238 --> 01:35:36.158
not possible.

01:35:32.560 --> 01:35:41.039
And the example of the cold fusion is

01:35:36.158 --> 01:35:44.399
how we are because cold fusion was

01:35:41.039 --> 01:35:46.719
devoted to find the energy using

01:35:44.399 --> 01:35:50.719
resonance.

01:35:46.719 --> 01:35:55.198
Resonance why how it works called

01:35:50.719 --> 01:35:58.560
fusion. We have two atoms of uh um of

01:35:55.198 --> 01:36:01.039
hydrogen. we start

01:35:58.560 --> 01:36:04.880
erh um

01:36:01.039 --> 01:36:07.359
uh we start putting together these two

01:36:04.880 --> 01:36:09.119
atoms but while we put together these

01:36:07.359 --> 01:36:11.759
two atoms the there are the atomic

01:36:09.119 --> 01:36:14.960
forces that tends to no I don't want to

01:36:11.760 --> 01:36:17.600
stay with the other atom so but then

01:36:14.960 --> 01:36:21.198
there is a limit that the atoms fuse

01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:24.000
together and it transform it is they are

01:36:21.198 --> 01:36:27.439
transformed in helium plus energy

01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:30.719
because of of mass the mass difference

01:36:27.439 --> 01:36:33.759
and so you can do energy by fusion. This

01:36:30.719 --> 01:36:38.079
is fusion not cold fusion. So you can

01:36:33.760 --> 01:36:40.639
have a fusion by forcing together the

01:36:38.079 --> 01:36:45.118
atoms that they don't want to stay

01:36:40.639 --> 01:36:48.079
together. So the force force together

01:36:45.118 --> 01:36:52.559
and this that is hot yes that that is

01:36:48.079 --> 01:36:56.800
hot fusion. Cold fusion you convince the

01:36:52.560 --> 01:37:00.080
two atoms to stay together naturally.

01:36:56.800 --> 01:37:00.400
Okay. So today

01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:01.920
uh

01:37:00.399 --> 01:37:03.839
>> what method do they use to convince

01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:07.199
these atoms to stay together naturally?

01:37:03.840 --> 01:37:10.400
>> Yes. You you have to find a third

01:37:07.198 --> 01:37:13.519
material that convince the two atom to

01:37:10.399 --> 01:37:15.920
stay together. Like you say I have a

01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:18.480
couple you have a couple a girl and a

01:37:15.920 --> 01:37:21.760
man they don't they don't want to talk

01:37:18.479 --> 01:37:23.519
one to each other. If you put a a third

01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:26.239
person

01:37:23.520 --> 01:37:30.000
uh between them at the center of them

01:37:26.238 --> 01:37:32.959
and she and maybe a third person

01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:35.920
convince the man and the girl to speak

01:37:32.960 --> 01:37:38.639
together and they will speak together.

01:37:35.920 --> 01:37:42.719
Okay. So the third material which is

01:37:38.639 --> 01:37:46.880
paladium they use paladium. Paladium has

01:37:42.719 --> 01:37:50.079
the a physical property to make speak

01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:53.679
together the two atoms and without force

01:37:50.079 --> 01:37:57.359
them they naturally transform into

01:37:53.679 --> 01:38:00.560
helium and they and they generate energy

01:37:57.359 --> 01:38:03.599
because the helium has a mass lower than

01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:04.719
the two atoms with mass difference you

01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:06.880
will

01:38:04.719 --> 01:38:08.560
>> you will generate energy

01:38:06.880 --> 01:38:10.639
>> and doing this at scale is really the

01:38:08.560 --> 01:38:11.840
holy grail of modern science And this

01:38:10.639 --> 01:38:14.960
has always been the quest.

01:38:11.840 --> 01:38:18.079
>> Yes. So we have two paradigma.

01:38:14.960 --> 01:38:21.920
Convincing something or obtaining the

01:38:18.079 --> 01:38:25.359
results using the force. And so the the

01:38:21.920 --> 01:38:27.118
street that you were speaking before

01:38:25.359 --> 01:38:32.639
science

01:38:27.118 --> 01:38:36.399
had this street. We want to have things

01:38:32.639 --> 01:38:38.239
by using force not convincing.

01:38:36.399 --> 01:38:39.759
>> Right. And that's where we are. That's

01:38:38.238 --> 01:38:42.079
nuclear power. Yes.

01:38:39.760 --> 01:38:45.679
>> Nuclear energy.

01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:48.079
>> Yes. Because h

01:38:45.679 --> 01:38:50.480
I tell you today

01:38:48.079 --> 01:38:53.840
also hot

01:38:50.479 --> 01:38:57.839
nuclear fusion does not exist

01:38:53.840 --> 01:39:02.400
because it is very difficult to to make

01:38:57.840 --> 01:39:05.760
a a huge reactor that use the tokamax or

01:39:02.399 --> 01:39:08.479
something related to laser that uses

01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:10.239
that that forces together the atoms to

01:39:08.479 --> 01:39:10.718
it's something not natural

01:39:10.238 --> 01:39:12.959
>> right

01:39:10.719 --> 01:39:14.639
>> cold fusion was natural And so the

01:39:12.960 --> 01:39:17.359
pyramids are something related to

01:39:14.639 --> 01:39:20.159
vibrations, to harmonic resonance, to

01:39:17.359 --> 01:39:23.439
something like that that

01:39:20.158 --> 01:39:24.879
>> it is the the right creation. That was

01:39:23.439 --> 01:39:26.960
the past.

01:39:24.880 --> 01:39:28.560
>> They were the right creation. They they

01:39:26.960 --> 01:39:30.399
were they were doing it the correct way.

01:39:28.560 --> 01:39:31.600
Yes. Instead of doing it against nature,

01:39:30.399 --> 01:39:31.839
they were doing it in harmony with

01:39:31.600 --> 01:39:33.600
nature.

01:39:31.840 --> 01:39:35.760
>> In harmony with the nature and in the

01:39:33.600 --> 01:39:38.320
universe. And that's why all the

01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:40.800
dimensions are related to the constants

01:39:38.319 --> 01:39:42.960
of the universe. The universe is like a

01:39:40.800 --> 01:39:45.360
book that is open. We have to just

01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:48.800
observe it. It is not difficult. It's

01:39:45.359 --> 01:39:50.719
very simple to read the universe.

01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:52.239
>> Okay. Show me more. Show me more of this

01:39:50.719 --> 01:39:54.560
uh presentation.

01:39:52.238 --> 01:39:58.959
>> What else do you have in here? When you

01:39:54.560 --> 01:40:00.719
go from from the the cap with the sound

01:39:58.960 --> 01:40:02.239
resonating into the supposed

01:40:00.719 --> 01:40:06.760
sarcophagus. Yes. What else?

01:40:02.238 --> 01:40:06.759
>> Yes, we can go to that slide.

01:40:09.118 --> 01:40:13.359
This stuff is awesome. This is my

01:40:10.880 --> 01:40:15.118
favorite subject by far out of all

01:40:13.359 --> 01:40:16.880
subjects. Ancient history and

01:40:15.118 --> 01:40:17.759
particularly ancient Egypt is my

01:40:16.880 --> 01:40:19.760
favorite subject.

01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:22.800
>> Okay, we stopped to speak.

01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:27.360
>> This is so undeniably interesting. H if

01:40:22.800 --> 01:40:29.760
we can go a slide up. Uh here look here

01:40:27.359 --> 01:40:33.439
we are dealing with something that uh uh

01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:37.360
happened uh in 202022

01:40:33.439 --> 01:40:39.759
after this uh after our our paper was

01:40:37.359 --> 01:40:43.279
published because these results are on

01:40:39.760 --> 01:40:46.800
our first paper. Look Joe

01:40:43.279 --> 01:40:48.719
that slide there that that lower. Yes.

01:40:46.800 --> 01:40:51.360
>> Yes.

01:40:48.719 --> 01:40:52.239
You depict chambers that were previously

01:40:51.359 --> 01:40:53.759
not known.

01:40:52.238 --> 01:40:54.638
>> Yeah. Right.

01:40:53.760 --> 01:40:55.600
>> That's the big void.

01:40:54.639 --> 01:40:57.920
>> Right. The big void.

01:40:55.600 --> 01:41:00.159
>> That's the big void. And then there is

01:40:57.920 --> 01:41:03.199
the chevron

01:41:00.158 --> 01:41:07.439
connecting with the corridor,

01:41:03.198 --> 01:41:11.039
the base of the grand gallery. That

01:41:07.439 --> 01:41:13.039
corridor was discovered six months later

01:41:11.039 --> 01:41:14.719
by Zakyawas.

01:41:13.039 --> 01:41:19.118
>> Wow.

01:41:14.719 --> 01:41:21.760
They made the paper but uh they I I

01:41:19.118 --> 01:41:22.158
depicted six months

01:41:21.760 --> 01:41:23.679
before.

01:41:22.158 --> 01:41:24.238
>> So you let them know it was there and

01:41:23.679 --> 01:41:25.520
then

01:41:24.238 --> 01:41:25.839
>> that's the corridor. That's the

01:41:25.520 --> 01:41:28.480
corridor.

01:41:25.840 --> 01:41:29.679
>> You found it. [laughter]

01:41:28.479 --> 01:41:32.079
>> That's the corridor. Yeah.

01:41:29.679 --> 01:41:34.399
>> I don't want to say that I found it, but

01:41:32.079 --> 01:41:35.279
>> Well, you found it. I'll say it. You

01:41:34.399 --> 01:41:38.000
found it.

01:41:35.279 --> 01:41:40.238
>> So your technology

01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:42.560
showed something that turned out to be

01:41:40.238 --> 01:41:45.118
true and is now established.

01:41:42.560 --> 01:41:46.880
>> Yes. And again, how crazy is it? They're

01:41:45.118 --> 01:41:50.639
just finding new chambers in the

01:41:46.880 --> 01:41:51.279
pyramids in the 21st century.

01:41:50.639 --> 01:41:52.960
>> Uh,

01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:55.359
>> pretty spectacular that they're just

01:41:52.960 --> 01:41:57.840
finding this now.

01:41:55.359 --> 01:42:00.479
>> And just yesterday, I was to examinate

01:41:57.840 --> 01:42:03.840
it again there. I don't have it. I don't

01:42:00.479 --> 01:42:06.399
have a slides here. I'm I am sorry. But

01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:08.719
there are the results of the scam

01:42:06.399 --> 01:42:12.559
pyramid project. The scam pyramid visual

01:42:08.719 --> 01:42:17.039
is very good. I it is a they are it is a

01:42:12.560 --> 01:42:20.400
very nice uh project project uh group

01:42:17.039 --> 01:42:23.039
and they discovered the uh the so-called

01:42:20.399 --> 01:42:26.000
um big void

01:42:23.039 --> 01:42:28.479
but uh there is a problem because they

01:42:26.000 --> 01:42:32.719
say the big void can be something

01:42:28.479 --> 01:42:35.039
parallel to the grand gallery so not

01:42:32.719 --> 01:42:37.920
steady but inclined like inclined

01:42:35.039 --> 01:42:42.000
>> and inclined right

01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:45.118
>> examinating results.

01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:48.880
I was observing something.

01:42:45.118 --> 01:42:52.000
Maybe I say maybe I can say that I am

01:42:48.880 --> 01:42:56.000
right of this. Maybe they are they they

01:42:52.000 --> 01:42:57.920
are mis they are confusing an inclined

01:42:56.000 --> 01:43:01.198
new chamber

01:42:57.920 --> 01:43:03.520
by the top of the they are

01:43:01.198 --> 01:43:06.000
distinguishing the top of the grand

01:43:03.520 --> 01:43:09.679
gallery and the bottom of the grand

01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:13.520
gallery like that. I observed the

01:43:09.679 --> 01:43:17.520
results but in my personal opinion

01:43:13.520 --> 01:43:20.560
the big void is not inclined but it is

01:43:17.520 --> 01:43:21.119
located where there is that red blob

01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:21.520
there.

01:43:21.118 --> 01:43:23.439
>> Mhm.

01:43:21.520 --> 01:43:26.400
>> That's the the grand gallery. Yes.

01:43:23.439 --> 01:43:29.759
There. And also up. Yes. That's the

01:43:26.399 --> 01:43:33.039
grand gallery. It is not inclined. Is is

01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:34.320
flat like that. Is how you say is um

01:43:33.039 --> 01:43:35.920
steady not inclined.

01:43:34.319 --> 01:43:36.238
>> Right.

01:43:35.920 --> 01:43:38.158
>> Um

01:43:36.238 --> 01:43:39.839
>> that's the grand. Why do they think it's

01:43:38.158 --> 01:43:43.359
at an incline?

01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:45.279
>> Because we are not seeing we are not my

01:43:43.359 --> 01:43:50.000
technique does not detect is not

01:43:45.279 --> 01:43:51.279
detecting an inclined uh chamber on the

01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:53.439
top of the grand gallery.

01:43:51.279 --> 01:43:56.479
>> Why do they think there's an incline?

01:43:53.439 --> 01:44:01.279
>> Yes, because they found two targets

01:43:56.479 --> 01:44:04.000
parallel. But I am feeling to tell them

01:44:01.279 --> 01:44:06.559
to be careful because maybe they are

01:44:04.000 --> 01:44:10.079
confusing the roof of the Grand Gallery

01:44:06.560 --> 01:44:10.800
and the and the lower part of the Grand

01:44:10.079 --> 01:44:11.600
Gallery.

01:44:10.800 --> 01:44:14.800
>> I see.

01:44:11.600 --> 01:44:18.320
>> Okay. They have to be careful.

01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:20.719
>> Interesting. But it's just also more

01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:22.960
evidence that your techniques are very

01:44:20.719 --> 01:44:25.600
effective and accurate

01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:30.880
because you did desri describe you have

01:44:25.600 --> 01:44:34.719
>> we can see the the the results that uh I

01:44:30.880 --> 01:44:36.800
uh that I um obtained on the granaso. We

01:44:34.719 --> 01:44:42.399
can see the granaso and the laboratory

01:44:36.800 --> 01:44:45.520
of granaso. That is the a perfect um uh

01:44:42.399 --> 01:44:47.198
benchmark that describes the effective

01:44:45.520 --> 01:44:48.560
effectiveness of my technique.

01:44:47.198 --> 01:44:51.599
>> All right. Show me some more. What else

01:44:48.560 --> 01:44:55.320
you got here?

01:44:51.600 --> 01:44:55.320
Show me another slide.

01:44:55.840 --> 01:45:03.440
>> Uh below I think. Ah okay. Okay. We go

01:44:58.719 --> 01:45:05.118
to Gubio. This is a a town where I live.

01:45:03.439 --> 01:45:07.919
I am uh

01:45:05.118 --> 01:45:11.359
>> this is Saxan. Sakahan. Yes, this is

01:45:07.920 --> 01:45:16.158
Sakahaman. And uh here I am showing you

01:45:11.359 --> 01:45:19.279
the next uh work that we uh can do uh

01:45:16.158 --> 01:45:20.638
once the Jiza scanning activity are

01:45:19.279 --> 01:45:23.519
finished it.

01:45:20.639 --> 01:45:26.000
>> So this is in Peru, correct? Yes.

01:45:23.520 --> 01:45:27.760
>> And so you want to scan this as well

01:45:26.000 --> 01:45:29.679
because uh you know we've had quite a

01:45:27.760 --> 01:45:32.639
few people on describe this.

01:45:29.679 --> 01:45:33.679
>> Yes. Look, Joe, the stones are like mash

01:45:32.639 --> 01:45:34.480
marshmallows.

01:45:33.679 --> 01:45:36.480
>> Yes,

01:45:34.479 --> 01:45:38.879
>> they are like marshmallows. How they did

01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:39.118
those those

01:45:38.880 --> 01:45:40.639
>> right

01:45:39.118 --> 01:45:44.559
>> those things there?

01:45:40.639 --> 01:45:47.520
>> Enormous. Some of them hundred tons

01:45:44.560 --> 01:45:49.039
>> carve from stones that who knows how

01:45:47.520 --> 01:45:51.440
they put them into position, but they

01:45:49.039 --> 01:45:54.238
carved them in this very strange way to

01:45:51.439 --> 01:45:56.319
absorb the impact of earthquakes. Right.

01:45:54.238 --> 01:45:57.919
The idea of this technology is that the

01:45:56.319 --> 01:46:00.479
reason why they're like a puzzle piece

01:45:57.920 --> 01:46:03.920
is because it would be much less likely

01:46:00.479 --> 01:46:06.479
to move in an intense earthquake.

01:46:03.920 --> 01:46:08.960
>> Okay.

01:46:06.479 --> 01:46:12.879
Go back

01:46:08.960 --> 01:46:15.439
just a few words on this city that is

01:46:12.880 --> 01:46:17.679
small town that is located in Peruja

01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:22.479
where I live.

01:46:17.679 --> 01:46:24.560
Um uh look um uh the the Italian the

01:46:22.479 --> 01:46:28.718
authority of this of the city of the

01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:32.239
town asked me to perform a scanning

01:46:28.719 --> 01:46:34.960
around that colosum that mini colosum

01:46:32.238 --> 01:46:38.959
that is located in Gubio because

01:46:34.960 --> 01:46:41.520
probably there is a huge Roman city not

01:46:38.960 --> 01:46:46.480
so old but it is a Roman city that

01:46:41.520 --> 01:46:49.040
compounds that arena that is there. M so

01:46:46.479 --> 01:46:49.599
a lost Roman city that's around that

01:46:49.039 --> 01:46:51.600
area.

01:46:49.600 --> 01:46:54.489
>> Yes. Yes.

01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:55.280
And I say hello to the people of Gubio.

01:46:54.488 --> 01:46:57.039
[laughter]

01:46:55.279 --> 01:46:57.759
>> So is this the next thing that you're

01:46:57.039 --> 01:46:58.319
going to do?

01:46:57.760 --> 01:46:59.119
>> Uh

01:46:58.319 --> 01:46:59.679
>> one of the next things.

01:46:59.118 --> 01:47:02.158
>> One of the next.

01:46:59.679 --> 01:47:02.960
>> But Sakai Huan is also Yes.

01:47:02.158 --> 01:47:05.198
>> Yeah.

01:47:02.960 --> 01:47:08.800
>> Ah and there is also

01:47:05.198 --> 01:47:12.879
Carakora also. Very interesting. The the

01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:18.000
slide 51 please.

01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:22.079
Yes. Yes. Carakora. Yes. This this is

01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:26.960
located in Russia and there are

01:47:22.079 --> 01:47:27.920
huge structures inside there.

01:47:26.960 --> 01:47:29.118
And uh

01:47:27.920 --> 01:47:32.000
>> this is in Russia.

01:47:29.118 --> 01:47:33.759
>> Yes. Yes. And nobody knows the the

01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:38.158
purpose of the of those things there.

01:47:33.760 --> 01:47:39.119
Nobody. It's crazy. More than crazy.

01:47:38.158 --> 01:47:40.638
>> And how big are these [clears throat]

01:47:39.118 --> 01:47:42.158
things? Can you keep that up there?

01:47:40.639 --> 01:47:43.359
>> Find other pictures of it so you see

01:47:42.158 --> 01:47:44.879
what it look like. Just keep this up

01:47:43.359 --> 01:47:46.639
just for a couple seconds. I just like

01:47:44.880 --> 01:47:47.679
how how big are we what are we looking

01:47:46.639 --> 01:47:53.279
at here?

01:47:47.679 --> 01:47:56.960
>> Yes, we have 9 + 16 + 7 + 10 plus 36 and

01:47:53.279 --> 01:47:57.439
they go below. So maybe two or 300 m

01:47:56.960 --> 01:48:00.158
below

01:47:57.439 --> 01:48:01.919
>> two or 300 m and there's this immense

01:48:00.158 --> 01:48:02.559
rectangle at the bottom of these

01:48:01.920 --> 01:48:06.319
corridors.

01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:09.360
>> Yeah. And and it goes more more deeply

01:48:06.319 --> 01:48:11.599
and so they nobody knows what there is.

01:48:09.359 --> 01:48:13.118
And if you look at that image, it's

01:48:11.600 --> 01:48:14.639
clearly a man-made structure.

01:48:13.118 --> 01:48:16.079
>> It's man-made. Absolutely. Yes.

01:48:14.639 --> 01:48:16.960
>> I mean, look, there's stones. They're

01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:18.319
they're placed.

01:48:16.960 --> 01:48:20.000
>> Yeah.

01:48:18.319 --> 01:48:20.719
>> That is nuts.

01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:22.079
>> That's crazy.

01:48:20.719 --> 01:48:24.079
>> And they don't they there's no

01:48:22.079 --> 01:48:25.039
historical timeline, no understanding of

01:48:24.079 --> 01:48:26.719
who did it.

01:48:25.039 --> 01:48:28.319
>> No.

01:48:26.719 --> 01:48:30.800
>> Wow.

01:48:28.319 --> 01:48:32.158
So, it's likely that there's structures

01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:34.239
like this that exist that are

01:48:32.158 --> 01:48:34.799
undiscovered probably all over the

01:48:34.238 --> 01:48:40.000
world.

01:48:34.800 --> 01:48:45.360
>> Yeah. Yes. The the nice thing of this is

01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:49.600
is this satellites are global globally.

01:48:45.359 --> 01:48:53.359
So one satellite flies from let's say

01:48:49.600 --> 01:48:54.079
south pole north pole south south pole

01:48:53.359 --> 01:48:54.799
like that

01:48:54.079 --> 01:48:56.719
>> right

01:48:54.800 --> 01:48:58.560
>> because of the angular momentum

01:48:56.719 --> 01:49:03.439
conservation

01:48:58.560 --> 01:49:07.920
the let's say the wheel of the orbit

01:49:03.439 --> 01:49:10.960
remains steady and the earth rotates

01:49:07.920 --> 01:49:14.800
inside this circle the circle remains

01:49:10.960 --> 01:49:18.079
steady like that. So at least once a

01:49:14.800 --> 01:49:21.199
day, one satellite can observe

01:49:18.079 --> 01:49:21.920
potentially any part of the globe in one

01:49:21.198 --> 01:49:22.559
day.

01:49:21.920 --> 01:49:26.639
>> M

01:49:22.560 --> 01:49:29.920
>> so you can program snapshots where you

01:49:26.639 --> 01:49:31.118
want in all the earth in one day.

01:49:29.920 --> 01:49:33.600
>> And how [clears throat] many satellites

01:49:31.118 --> 01:49:36.799
are up there? Ah there are uh uh the

01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:38.320
satellites that uh contains on board of

01:49:36.800 --> 01:49:40.320
them

01:49:38.319 --> 01:49:42.319
a payload

01:49:40.319 --> 01:49:45.198
uh composed by a synthetic version

01:49:42.319 --> 01:49:48.639
rather there are a lot there are

01:49:45.198 --> 01:49:51.599
different satellites companies that uh

01:49:48.639 --> 01:49:55.600
provides these services.

01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:58.400
So uh today it is possible to decide to

01:49:55.600 --> 01:50:00.800
observe something. Okay. I call the

01:49:58.399 --> 01:50:01.920
company and they put case for me an

01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:04.079
image.

01:50:01.920 --> 01:50:06.239
>> And this structure in Russia, how was

01:50:04.079 --> 01:50:07.198
this initially discovered? Was it

01:50:06.238 --> 01:50:08.399
discovered by explorers?

01:50:07.198 --> 01:50:10.158
>> Manually by explorers

01:50:08.399 --> 01:50:12.238
>> manually. Yes. And how did they get the

01:50:10.158 --> 01:50:13.599
dimensions of it? Are people able to go

01:50:12.238 --> 01:50:17.439
all the way down into it?

01:50:13.600 --> 01:50:20.000
>> That man because there is only a a a man

01:50:17.439 --> 01:50:22.719
that went down because it's very narrow.

01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:25.760
But once you go down be everything

01:50:22.719 --> 01:50:29.198
becomes very huge and large. Measure it

01:50:25.760 --> 01:50:31.760
manually all those depths. But more

01:50:29.198 --> 01:50:34.319
there than then you can't go because

01:50:31.760 --> 01:50:35.520
maybe it's too narrow. I don't know.

01:50:34.319 --> 01:50:37.118
He's okay.

01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:38.000
>> Did you find any images of that Jamie

01:50:37.118 --> 01:50:40.880
online?

01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:43.279
>> I'm looking into something.

01:50:40.880 --> 01:50:44.800
I'm stuck in a hole. Hold on.

01:50:43.279 --> 01:50:46.319
>> Someone was sort of saying it's in a

01:50:44.800 --> 01:50:48.719
different spot and now I try to track it

01:50:46.319 --> 01:50:49.920
down. These are also weirdly only

01:50:48.719 --> 01:50:52.560
getting talked about over the last

01:50:49.920 --> 01:50:52.880
month. So I am digging down a different

01:50:52.560 --> 01:50:54.639
path.

01:50:52.880 --> 01:50:56.000
>> When did they discover this?

01:50:54.639 --> 01:50:57.039
>> This I don't remember.

01:50:56.000 --> 01:50:58.319
>> 2011.

01:50:57.039 --> 01:50:59.679
>> 2011.

01:50:58.319 --> 01:51:01.279
>> That's crazy.

01:50:59.679 --> 01:51:02.719
>> The fact that they don't know who made

01:51:01.279 --> 01:51:05.039
it or why,

01:51:02.719 --> 01:51:07.039
>> but it is clearly man-made. You're

01:51:05.039 --> 01:51:08.479
seeing these stones perfectly cut

01:51:07.039 --> 01:51:12.079
stacked on top of each other.

01:51:08.479 --> 01:51:14.319
>> Yes. And you have the same uh

01:51:12.079 --> 01:51:16.479
>> Oh, okay. It says it's currently known

01:51:14.319 --> 01:51:17.840
from fringe social media and YouTube

01:51:16.479 --> 01:51:19.678
style sources rather than former

01:51:17.840 --> 01:51:21.520
archaeological publications because it

01:51:19.679 --> 01:51:22.880
hasn't been explored. Correct.

01:51:21.520 --> 01:51:24.719
>> Yeah. It's 15 years ago though.

01:51:22.880 --> 01:51:26.560
>> Yeah. Pretty pretty nuts. But I mean,

01:51:24.719 --> 01:51:29.039
who's doing that kind of work in Russia,

01:51:26.560 --> 01:51:31.920
especially now? Deep underground shaft

01:51:29.039 --> 01:51:33.920
lined with large parallel megalithic

01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:36.158
stone blocks with walls described as

01:51:33.920 --> 01:51:38.480
straight and polished suggest suggest

01:51:36.158 --> 01:51:40.479
artificial construction rather than a

01:51:38.479 --> 01:51:43.359
natural cave or fissure. And this is all

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from our sponsor Perplexity that we run

01:51:43.359 --> 01:51:48.079
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01:51:45.920 --> 01:51:50.719
always been very accurate. Said to lie

01:51:48.079 --> 01:51:53.279
somewhere between in the Russian Caucus,

01:51:50.719 --> 01:51:56.000
often simply uh described simply as

01:51:53.279 --> 01:51:58.158
North Cauus or Cauus Mountains uh with

01:51:56.000 --> 01:51:59.920
videos and posts presenting it as

01:51:58.158 --> 01:52:01.920
evidence of unknown or very ancient

01:51:59.920 --> 01:52:03.599
civilization with advanced stonework

01:52:01.920 --> 01:52:05.118
techniques.

01:52:03.599 --> 01:52:07.119
Crazy that they don't know who made

01:52:05.118 --> 01:52:09.359
this. There's no accessible

01:52:07.118 --> 01:52:11.359
peer-reviewed archaeological articles,

01:52:09.359 --> 01:52:13.118
official Russian heritage records, or

01:52:11.359 --> 01:52:17.439
academic monographs that describe the

01:52:13.118 --> 01:52:19.839
site formally named the Carahora. Is am

01:52:17.439 --> 01:52:20.879
I saying that right? Carora

01:52:19.840 --> 01:52:22.800
>> Kahora shaft.

01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:24.800
>> Caror shaft, which strongly suggests the

01:52:22.800 --> 01:52:26.560
claim has not been vetted by mainstream

01:52:24.800 --> 01:52:27.440
archaeology, but you know, look, it

01:52:26.560 --> 01:52:28.960
exists.

01:52:27.439 --> 01:52:31.039
>> Whether it's vetted or not, it doesn't

01:52:28.960 --> 01:52:32.719
matter like what who made it? What is

01:52:31.039 --> 01:52:36.000
it?

01:52:32.719 --> 01:52:38.319
>> Nuts. That's really crazy. I had no idea

01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:40.000
that that existed. [laughter]

01:52:38.319 --> 01:52:43.198
>> And it just it makes you think like if

01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:43.920
they just found that in 2011 and

01:52:43.198 --> 01:52:44.319
>> manually,

01:52:43.920 --> 01:52:48.079
>> right,

01:52:44.319 --> 01:52:50.960
>> and maybe doing a a wide a wide uh

01:52:48.079 --> 01:52:54.158
research by satellites, maybe starting

01:52:50.960 --> 01:52:56.399
from there or other sites

01:52:54.158 --> 01:52:57.439
between that that Kahora, maybe we will

01:52:56.399 --> 01:52:59.839
find other things,

01:52:57.439 --> 01:53:01.678
>> right? It could be a part of an enormous

01:52:59.840 --> 01:53:04.880
complex. I mean, who knows? But just the

01:53:01.679 --> 01:53:06.480
fact that that exists and that a human

01:53:04.880 --> 01:53:08.079
made that or humans made that, that's

01:53:06.479 --> 01:53:10.079
crazy.

01:53:08.079 --> 01:53:12.800
The whole thing is crazy because it

01:53:10.079 --> 01:53:14.319
really like anybody that boy the modern

01:53:12.800 --> 01:53:15.760
archaeologists and people that are the

01:53:14.319 --> 01:53:17.279
gatekeepers of archaeological

01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:20.320
information are fighting an uphill

01:53:17.279 --> 01:53:21.279
battle because like you can't at at a

01:53:20.319 --> 01:53:23.679
certain point in time you have to give

01:53:21.279 --> 01:53:24.719
up and go I don't know. And that's an I

01:53:23.679 --> 01:53:26.239
don't know moment like

01:53:24.719 --> 01:53:27.760
>> yes this and I don't know.

01:53:26.238 --> 01:53:29.198
>> What the hell is that?

01:53:27.760 --> 01:53:31.039
>> What is that? I don't Show me some more

01:53:29.198 --> 01:53:32.238
images, Jamie, cuz it's really kooky

01:53:31.039 --> 01:53:33.519
>> of the shaft.

01:53:32.238 --> 01:53:35.839
>> Yeah, just that what that looks like.

01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:37.599
>> That's I'm trying to It's I'm digging

01:53:35.840 --> 01:53:38.079
down a hole and it there's a post here

01:53:37.599 --> 01:53:39.840
on

01:53:38.079 --> 01:53:41.599
>> Yes, there are.

01:53:39.840 --> 01:53:42.159
>> This is a like they're misinterpreting

01:53:41.599 --> 01:53:44.000
something.

01:53:42.158 --> 01:53:45.198
>> This is Jay Anderson who's been on the

01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:46.800
podcast recently.

01:53:45.198 --> 01:53:51.678
>> This is the tweet I found. Uh how about

01:53:46.800 --> 01:53:55.279
some fat chunk car um in the kab

01:53:51.679 --> 01:53:57.199
cabardino bulria republic north caucus

01:53:55.279 --> 01:53:59.840
of the Russian Federation is a different

01:53:57.198 --> 01:54:02.319
place from carakoto

01:53:59.840 --> 01:54:03.360
so carora and carako so there's more

01:54:02.319 --> 01:54:05.359
than one place

01:54:03.359 --> 01:54:07.279
>> I'm I'm trying to I haven't I'm just

01:54:05.359 --> 01:54:08.880
googling stuff it's it all comes from

01:54:07.279 --> 01:54:10.158
this one video it seems like because

01:54:08.880 --> 01:54:12.159
everyone's pointing to this video and

01:54:10.158 --> 01:54:13.359
this video is compiled of all sorts of

01:54:12.158 --> 01:54:15.759
stuff

01:54:13.359 --> 01:54:17.519
>> it's got 3 million views from 2024

01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:18.560
forest. I can see how it goes when it

01:54:17.520 --> 01:54:18.960
went viral, you know.

01:54:18.560 --> 01:54:22.080
>> Mhm.

01:54:18.960 --> 01:54:23.679
>> But, uh, it starts off with just showing

01:54:22.079 --> 01:54:25.359
that and I don't, you know,

01:54:23.679 --> 01:54:25.840
>> so this is probably the entry to this

01:54:25.359 --> 01:54:27.839
area

01:54:25.840 --> 01:54:29.679
>> maybe. But again, no one knows they

01:54:27.840 --> 01:54:30.159
can't tell you where that is like on a

01:54:29.679 --> 01:54:31.118
map,

01:54:30.158 --> 01:54:33.839
>> right? Got it.

01:54:31.118 --> 01:54:36.079
>> Look how precise they are.

01:54:33.840 --> 01:54:36.719
>> So, I this might be

01:54:36.079 --> 01:54:38.079
>> who knows.

01:54:36.719 --> 01:54:39.679
>> Yeah. Could be real, could be nonsense.

01:54:38.079 --> 01:54:42.158
Well, the the images of that guy

01:54:39.679 --> 01:54:44.319
standing there looking outside of that

01:54:42.158 --> 01:54:47.279
opening that you showed earlier in your

01:54:44.319 --> 01:54:48.559
presentation is just bananas. But

01:54:47.279 --> 01:54:50.079
whatever this is is

01:54:48.560 --> 01:54:50.719
>> that's I don't know where it's from. You

01:54:50.079 --> 01:54:52.960
know, it could be

01:54:50.719 --> 01:54:54.800
>> right. Do they have any video of once

01:54:52.960 --> 01:54:57.118
they got all the way down through? So

01:54:54.800 --> 01:54:59.279
here. Okay, let's keep going. See what

01:54:57.118 --> 01:55:02.960
it looks like.

01:54:59.279 --> 01:55:04.719
>> And I don't even know.

01:55:02.960 --> 01:55:06.000
>> Yeah. So someone else has done narration

01:55:04.719 --> 01:55:08.239
on it. Mhm.

01:55:06.000 --> 01:55:09.760
>> It's coming from a different channel. I

01:55:08.238 --> 01:55:10.718
can see a tag on there. It's coming from

01:55:09.760 --> 01:55:12.320
a different show.

01:55:10.719 --> 01:55:13.439
>> God, look at the right angles, though.

01:55:12.319 --> 01:55:14.399
This is nuts.

01:55:13.439 --> 01:55:15.839
>> Yes.

01:55:14.399 --> 01:55:18.238
>> I mean, it's clearly looks like

01:55:15.840 --> 01:55:19.599
something man-made. [clears throat]

01:55:18.238 --> 01:55:21.118
Look how precise they are.

01:55:19.599 --> 01:55:22.639
>> Yeah, it's crazy.

01:55:21.118 --> 01:55:25.039
>> That's man-made. It's absolutely

01:55:22.639 --> 01:55:27.039
man-made.

01:55:25.039 --> 01:55:29.359
There are also a comparison what with

01:55:27.039 --> 01:55:30.560
the with the dimensions of the

01:55:29.359 --> 01:55:35.118
dimensions.

01:55:30.560 --> 01:55:37.520
>> Wow. What the hell is that?

01:55:35.118 --> 01:55:39.598
That means what the hell is that? It's

01:55:37.520 --> 01:55:41.760
crazy. And they found it in 2011. Yeah.

01:55:39.599 --> 01:55:42.639
>> I mean, imagine how much more of this

01:55:41.760 --> 01:55:44.000
stuff.

01:55:42.639 --> 01:55:46.719
>> I mean, that's one of the things about

01:55:44.000 --> 01:55:47.599
Gob Beckley. They've only observed 5% of

01:55:46.719 --> 01:55:49.840
it.

01:55:47.599 --> 01:55:51.599
>> I mean, 5% of it they've uncovered and

01:55:49.840 --> 01:55:53.599
and through ground penetrating radar,

01:55:51.599 --> 01:55:55.760
they know of multiple sites nearby.

01:55:53.599 --> 01:55:56.319
>> Yes. But ground penetrated radar has a

01:55:55.760 --> 01:55:57.599
problem.

01:55:56.319 --> 01:56:01.679
>> What is the problem? The problem of

01:55:57.599 --> 01:56:05.599
ground penetrating radar is uh the

01:56:01.679 --> 01:56:07.118
penetration depth is few meters enough.

01:56:05.599 --> 01:56:10.159
>> So it's a pro there is a problem of

01:56:07.118 --> 01:56:12.960
penetration depth but

01:56:10.158 --> 01:56:15.839
in that depth you are very precise. So

01:56:12.960 --> 01:56:19.920
you have to take into account that more

01:56:15.840 --> 01:56:23.199
than 15 20 m you below you can't go

01:56:19.920 --> 01:56:25.118
>> right but using that method they have

01:56:23.198 --> 01:56:28.719
found all these structures that exist.

01:56:25.118 --> 01:56:31.759
It's a good method uh for uh in C2

01:56:28.719 --> 01:56:33.439
exploration. Yes. And so you can find

01:56:31.760 --> 01:56:37.199
nice things with using ground

01:56:33.439 --> 01:56:41.839
penetrating radar if you want to to

01:56:37.198 --> 01:56:45.839
perform a wide area uh rough uh let's

01:56:41.840 --> 01:56:48.960
say rough um uh scanning uh you you can

01:56:45.840 --> 01:56:52.319
use my method. So you can you can find

01:56:48.960 --> 01:56:54.560
huge things on wide area. for the the

01:56:52.319 --> 01:56:55.279
details. It's okay. Ground penetrating

01:56:54.560 --> 01:56:56.719
radar.

01:56:55.279 --> 01:56:58.319
>> Um, is there anything else you want to

01:56:56.719 --> 01:57:00.239
show us that's in your presentation that

01:56:58.319 --> 01:57:01.599
you think Okay, show me some more stuff.

01:57:00.238 --> 01:57:02.959
>> Yes, it's a pleasure.

01:57:01.599 --> 01:57:04.639
>> Yeah, please. It's a pleasure for me,

01:57:02.960 --> 01:57:05.599
too. Thank you. Thank you for being

01:57:04.639 --> 01:57:06.079
here.

01:57:05.599 --> 01:57:07.520
>> Okay,

01:57:06.079 --> 01:57:09.599
>> thank you for inviting.

01:57:07.520 --> 01:57:11.040
>> Uh, Carora, is that how you say it?

01:57:09.599 --> 01:57:11.760
Carora. Kora.

01:57:11.039 --> 01:57:13.039
>> Carakora.

01:57:11.760 --> 01:57:15.280
>> Carakora.

01:57:13.039 --> 01:57:17.599
>> So, this is a carora. So, that image, go

01:57:15.279 --> 01:57:19.840
back one more time to carora. That, so

01:57:17.599 --> 01:57:22.400
that's a legitimate image. That's not AI

01:57:19.840 --> 01:57:24.079
generated. This is This is these guys

01:57:22.399 --> 01:57:26.000
standing in

01:57:24.079 --> 01:57:28.960
>> clearly what looks like megalithic

01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:30.000
stones stacked on top of each other.

01:57:28.960 --> 01:57:31.760
>> Clearly man-made.

01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:32.158
>> Yes. Clearly man-made because look, you

01:57:31.760 --> 01:57:32.560
see

01:57:32.158 --> 01:57:33.519
>> Yes.

01:57:32.560 --> 01:57:35.840
>> You see the blocks?

01:57:33.520 --> 01:57:37.040
>> Yeah. You see the blocks? It's [ __ ]

01:57:35.840 --> 01:57:39.679
nuts.

01:57:37.039 --> 01:57:41.679
>> No, but okay, we can we can understand

01:57:39.679 --> 01:57:42.880
that it's possible maybe it's possible

01:57:41.679 --> 01:57:43.679
to build something like that.

01:57:42.880 --> 01:57:44.719
>> Sure, it's possible.

01:57:43.679 --> 01:57:46.719
>> The purpose,

01:57:44.719 --> 01:57:48.239
>> right? The purpose and when and who and

01:57:46.719 --> 01:57:50.880
what civilization,

01:57:48.238 --> 01:57:52.479
>> right? Like who did that? That's That is

01:57:50.880 --> 01:57:53.760
insane.

01:57:52.479 --> 01:57:56.879
>> What even is that?

01:57:53.760 --> 01:57:58.480
>> What even is that? Yeah. I mean, there's

01:57:56.880 --> 01:57:59.760
ropes that go across and that's what

01:57:58.479 --> 01:58:00.399
you're seeing.

01:57:59.760 --> 01:58:01.679
>> And you're seeing

01:58:00.399 --> 01:58:02.960
>> that rope go where's his arm and where

01:58:01.679 --> 01:58:04.960
does the rope go to?

01:58:02.960 --> 01:58:06.480
>> Well, he's got his arm posted on the

01:58:04.960 --> 01:58:07.760
side of that wall and that rope goes

01:58:06.479 --> 01:58:08.638
across and you're just not seeing it

01:58:07.760 --> 01:58:10.000
because of the darkness.

01:58:08.639 --> 01:58:11.359
>> Is that like he's leaning against

01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:12.960
something there, too?

01:58:11.359 --> 01:58:14.880
>> Uh, it looks like he's got his hand on

01:58:12.960 --> 01:58:17.439
that wall. That opening. There's an

01:58:14.880 --> 01:58:20.159
opening in that shaft. Um, so what else

01:58:17.439 --> 01:58:21.359
is next in this in this presentation?

01:58:20.158 --> 01:58:23.198
>> Okay.

01:58:21.359 --> 01:58:26.399
>> Yeah. Which way should I go?

01:58:23.198 --> 01:58:29.519
>> Okay, we go upstairs. Let's see.

01:58:26.399 --> 01:58:31.839
Go back. Then we have Gubio. And there

01:58:29.520 --> 01:58:34.880
here we have the Osaris shafts which we

01:58:31.840 --> 01:58:37.599
use this shaft, the Osaris shaft like a

01:58:34.880 --> 01:58:40.319
benchmark because we we are able to

01:58:37.599 --> 01:58:42.480
understand the effectiveness of our

01:58:40.319 --> 01:58:44.639
technique that is able to retrive the

01:58:42.479 --> 01:58:46.718
shape of the osaris shaft. Why the

01:58:44.639 --> 01:58:50.159
shaft? because it's a benchmark that we

01:58:46.719 --> 01:58:52.079
know uh exactly how it is established

01:58:50.158 --> 01:58:54.319
and and uh and uh

01:58:52.079 --> 01:58:57.359
>> so it accurately depicts the Osiris.

01:58:54.319 --> 01:58:58.399
>> Yes. Yes.

01:58:57.359 --> 01:59:05.679
>> Um what else?

01:58:58.399 --> 01:59:09.519
>> Okay, let's go there. Okay. The uh 43 43

01:59:05.679 --> 01:59:14.079
Yes. Uh this is uh uh the Sangotard

01:59:09.520 --> 01:59:16.400
tunnel and here uh I made an exploration

01:59:14.079 --> 01:59:20.719
using my technique uh in order to

01:59:16.399 --> 01:59:24.000
retrive the shape of the railway tunnel

01:59:20.719 --> 01:59:28.239
that it is uh approximately 2 kilometers

01:59:24.000 --> 01:59:30.800
below uh the the the mountain and the

01:59:28.238 --> 01:59:33.839
slide 44.

01:59:30.800 --> 01:59:37.760
uh we can uh understand that in this

01:59:33.840 --> 01:59:40.079
case the Alps the the mountain resonates

01:59:37.760 --> 01:59:42.000
like a crystal. So you are seeing you

01:59:40.079 --> 01:59:45.599
are watching the mountain in the

01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:49.760
vibrational domain. So it's like

01:59:45.599 --> 01:59:54.920
a photograph a photo uh pick picked up

01:59:49.760 --> 01:59:54.920
or um uh synthe

01:59:55.198 --> 02:00:03.359
in in that case uh we can see the slide

01:59:58.639 --> 02:00:06.000
45 and 46 we are detecting the tunnel

02:00:03.359 --> 02:00:08.880
the the tunnel yes that's the railway

02:00:06.000 --> 02:00:11.599
tunnel that is located below the earth.

02:00:08.880 --> 02:00:13.440
Wow.

02:00:11.599 --> 02:00:15.119
So this is just more proof of the

02:00:13.439 --> 02:00:18.238
accuracy of the technique.

02:00:15.118 --> 02:00:20.319
>> Yes. Yes.

02:00:18.238 --> 02:00:22.399
>> This is some really stunning stuff.

02:00:20.319 --> 02:00:27.279
>> Yes. That I can explain you other

02:00:22.399 --> 02:00:32.319
experiments. We can go starting from uh

02:00:27.279 --> 02:00:34.479
slide 36. Okay. Slide 36. This is a dam

02:00:32.319 --> 02:00:37.920
and this very it is a very important

02:00:34.479 --> 02:00:40.799
dam. It is a the Mosul dam that is

02:00:37.920 --> 02:00:47.039
located in Iraq.

02:00:40.800 --> 02:00:50.960
uh is very huge is 300 m tall has a

02:00:47.039 --> 02:00:53.840
height of 300 m and 3 kilometers from

02:00:50.960 --> 02:00:58.239
one part to the other part of the dam.

02:00:53.840 --> 02:01:01.679
So it contains a a a huge amount of

02:00:58.238 --> 02:01:04.479
water from the uh upper side. There is

02:01:01.679 --> 02:01:08.480
the water that contains and below there

02:01:04.479 --> 02:01:11.118
there is the the river that uh uh the

02:01:08.479 --> 02:01:13.519
water comes out from the reservoir that

02:01:11.118 --> 02:01:16.158
is on top. Why the musul dam? The musul

02:01:13.520 --> 02:01:21.440
dam has a problem.

02:01:16.158 --> 02:01:25.519
Uh it has been built on a a bed of

02:01:21.439 --> 02:01:31.118
jesso. How you sayum? Japsum. Yes. And

02:01:25.520 --> 02:01:35.360
gypsum is uh um while is in contact of

02:01:31.118 --> 02:01:37.920
water it melts. So the musul dam is

02:01:35.359 --> 02:01:41.598
dangerous because it has a serious

02:01:37.920 --> 02:01:44.800
problem of stabilization.

02:01:41.599 --> 02:01:47.360
In this case, uh there are a lot of

02:01:44.800 --> 02:01:49.760
that's called satellites methods and

02:01:47.359 --> 02:01:53.279
synthetic virtual rather methods that

02:01:49.760 --> 02:01:56.000
are devoted to uh perform the so-called

02:01:53.279 --> 02:01:59.198
infrastructure monitoring. And in this

02:01:56.000 --> 02:02:02.479
case, the musul dam is crucial to be uh

02:01:59.198 --> 02:02:08.158
observed by radar. In this case, I

02:02:02.479 --> 02:02:11.839
wanted to see the the slide 37 please.

02:02:08.158 --> 02:02:16.158
Erh here uh inside the dam look that

02:02:11.840 --> 02:02:16.880
there is a tunnel the red line the

02:02:16.158 --> 02:02:17.359
tunnel.

02:02:16.880 --> 02:02:21.920
>> Mhm.

02:02:17.359 --> 02:02:25.198
>> And here we have uh we have um uh we

02:02:21.920 --> 02:02:28.399
have uh uh people that are working uh

02:02:25.198 --> 02:02:31.039
inside the tunnel and the the task was

02:02:28.399 --> 02:02:34.638
my technique is with my technique is

02:02:31.039 --> 02:02:37.118
possible to detect the tunnel. We go in

02:02:34.639 --> 02:02:40.639
slide 38.

02:02:37.118 --> 02:02:42.158
Okay. And we see on the uh right top

02:02:40.639 --> 02:02:44.800
there is the tunnel.

02:02:42.158 --> 02:02:48.799
>> Just to explain you where you see red

02:02:44.800 --> 02:02:51.520
the vibration energy is high so is red.

02:02:48.800 --> 02:02:56.000
When you see blue the vibration has

02:02:51.520 --> 02:02:58.880
energy is low. Okay is low and inside

02:02:56.000 --> 02:03:01.439
the tunnel because you have the air you

02:02:58.880 --> 02:03:03.679
don't have vibration. So is low and so

02:03:01.439 --> 02:03:05.839
you see the tunnel.

02:03:03.679 --> 02:03:09.520
>> Okay.

02:03:05.840 --> 02:03:13.199
And so we were also able to detect slide

02:03:09.520 --> 02:03:15.679
39 also the principal facility that are

02:03:13.198 --> 02:03:17.359
uh located inside the dam which are the

02:03:15.679 --> 02:03:18.079
turbinas

02:03:17.359 --> 02:03:19.359
>> the turbines

02:03:18.079 --> 02:03:20.000
>> the turbines

02:03:19.359 --> 02:03:22.880
>> right

02:03:20.000 --> 02:03:26.800
>> and uh and other stuff and all the

02:03:22.880 --> 02:03:29.359
mechanical the mechanical uh um

02:03:26.800 --> 02:03:31.279
machines. This is the all the mechanical

02:03:29.359 --> 02:03:32.639
machines that are located inside.

02:03:31.279 --> 02:03:34.800
>> All right. So it's showing the accurate

02:03:32.639 --> 02:03:36.319
shape of the turbines as well. So this

02:03:34.800 --> 02:03:36.800
is just more proof that this technique

02:03:36.319 --> 02:03:41.198
works.

02:03:36.800 --> 02:03:43.199
>> Yes. And so we go uh slide 31.

02:03:41.198 --> 02:03:47.118
On slide 31. Okay. Here this is the

02:03:43.198 --> 02:03:49.839
grandaso. Uh how nice is this? Uh is for

02:03:47.118 --> 02:03:51.359
me very nice because I I born here.

02:03:49.840 --> 02:03:54.239
>> This is the particle collider.

02:03:51.359 --> 02:03:56.479
>> Yeah. Inside the the mountain in the

02:03:54.238 --> 02:04:01.279
core of the mountain there is the the

02:03:56.479 --> 02:04:05.678
laboratory here. And uh and the the the

02:04:01.279 --> 02:04:09.679
task was can I uh detect the facility

02:04:05.679 --> 02:04:14.639
that this inside the mountain. And so uh

02:04:09.679 --> 02:04:16.719
we we are now uh in the slide 32

02:04:14.639 --> 02:04:21.359
and 33.

02:04:16.719 --> 02:04:24.480
Okay. And we can see okay the facility

02:04:21.359 --> 02:04:26.719
that is ENFN is the institute of

02:04:24.479 --> 02:04:29.039
nationality the physical nuclear

02:04:26.719 --> 02:04:32.158
>> m you see the shape of it in there

02:04:29.039 --> 02:04:34.319
>> yeah national institute uh of of nuclear

02:04:32.158 --> 02:04:36.079
physics the Italian national institute

02:04:34.319 --> 02:04:37.519
of nuclear physics

02:04:36.079 --> 02:04:38.479
>> and that's more than a kilometer deep

02:04:37.520 --> 02:04:44.560
into the mountain

02:04:38.479 --> 02:04:47.198
>> 1.4 four and uh yes and slide 30 35 we

02:04:44.560 --> 02:04:48.000
we can see we can see the the the

02:04:47.198 --> 02:04:48.638
laboratory.

02:04:48.000 --> 02:04:50.238
>> Wow.

02:04:48.639 --> 02:04:52.400
>> Yeah, this is the laboratory.

02:04:50.238 --> 02:04:54.879
>> That's crazy.

02:04:52.399 --> 02:04:56.879
That's crazy.

02:04:54.880 --> 02:04:59.520
So using your techniques you get an

02:04:56.880 --> 02:05:01.118
accurate depiction of the dimensions of

02:04:59.520 --> 02:05:01.599
this laboratory.

02:05:01.118 --> 02:05:02.238
>> Yeah.

02:05:01.599 --> 02:05:05.119
>> Wow.

02:05:02.238 --> 02:05:07.359
>> And that's that uh that triangle is

02:05:05.118 --> 02:05:10.960
called the interferometer.

02:05:07.359 --> 02:05:14.799
So when you have two lasers that uh and

02:05:10.960 --> 02:05:16.719
goes together and they they and it uh

02:05:14.800 --> 02:05:18.880
you can study the the pattern the

02:05:16.719 --> 02:05:22.239
interference pattern that coherent

02:05:18.880 --> 02:05:23.760
signals are generating you can use an

02:05:22.238 --> 02:05:25.439
interpherometer and that's the

02:05:23.760 --> 02:05:28.440
interferometer.

02:05:25.439 --> 02:05:28.439
Wow.

02:05:28.800 --> 02:05:32.960
This is all amazing stuff. It's amazing

02:05:31.198 --> 02:05:35.279
and I I I feel like we're at the

02:05:32.960 --> 02:05:37.198
beginning of a very fascinating journey.

02:05:35.279 --> 02:05:39.759
Yeah. You know, and I think that your

02:05:37.198 --> 02:05:42.479
work and this research and all the

02:05:39.760 --> 02:05:43.599
controversy is good. All the controversy

02:05:42.479 --> 02:05:44.799
around it is just going to make more

02:05:43.599 --> 02:05:46.960
people talk about it, more people

02:05:44.800 --> 02:05:48.639
discuss it, and more people understand.

02:05:46.960 --> 02:05:50.239
And it just seems to me that the more

02:05:48.639 --> 02:05:53.118
they research it, the more the mystery

02:05:50.238 --> 02:05:54.879
opens up, and that it is without a doubt

02:05:53.118 --> 02:05:56.399
one of the most astounding discoveries

02:05:54.880 --> 02:05:58.319
in human history.

02:05:56.399 --> 02:06:00.319
>> Yes.

02:05:58.319 --> 02:06:02.319
>> Thank you, Joel. Congratulations on

02:06:00.319 --> 02:06:04.880
discovering it and thank you so much for

02:06:02.319 --> 02:06:06.719
all your hard work because I mean uh

02:06:04.880 --> 02:06:09.279
like I said is to me one of the most

02:06:06.719 --> 02:06:11.679
fascinating subjects and you know what

02:06:09.279 --> 02:06:13.439
Graham always speaks of is that we are a

02:06:11.679 --> 02:06:13.920
species with amnesia.

02:06:13.439 --> 02:06:14.559
>> Yes.

02:06:13.920 --> 02:06:16.639
>> And

02:06:14.560 --> 02:06:18.320
>> and I agree with this with that

02:06:16.639 --> 02:06:19.920
>> and you know it's one of the reasons why

02:06:18.319 --> 02:06:22.479
so many people are mad at him is because

02:06:19.920 --> 02:06:25.599
he was right. He was right in the 1990s,

02:06:22.479 --> 02:06:28.399
you know, and and as time goes on, he is

02:06:25.599 --> 02:06:30.078
being proven more and more to be correct

02:06:28.399 --> 02:06:30.719
and things just seem to keep getting

02:06:30.078 --> 02:06:31.599
older.

02:06:30.719 --> 02:06:33.520
>> Yes,

02:06:31.599 --> 02:06:35.039
>> it's amazing. Thank you so much for

02:06:33.520 --> 02:06:36.880
being here. I really, really appreciate

02:06:35.039 --> 02:06:38.000
your time and I appreciate your work and

02:06:36.880 --> 02:06:39.840
>> thank you for inviting me.

02:06:38.000 --> 02:06:40.639
>> My pleasure. Let's do it again when more

02:06:39.840 --> 02:06:42.078
stuff comes out.

02:06:40.639 --> 02:06:43.920
>> Okay, I'm here.

02:06:42.078 --> 02:06:46.238
>> If anybody wants to find more about

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this, where would you uh send them to?

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Is there a website that would give them

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more information if they want to do a

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deep dive? Yes. Um I have a personal

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website which is harmonicsar.com and I

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publish.

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>> Say that again. Harmonics.com. Yes.

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>> Harmonicar.

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>> It's man. It's

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>> synthetic aperture radar is sar. So

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harmonicsar.com.

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>> Yes.

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>> Filippo beond.

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>> I mean

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>> you're the man. Thank you, sir. Really

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appreciate you being Thank you. All

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right. [music] Bye everybody.

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>> [music]
