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[00:17] Uh, obviously there's been an amazing
[00:19] amount of interest and controversy
[00:21] because of your work. Uh, we should
[00:23] explain to everybody right off the bat
[00:25] what this is about. You are the man that
[00:29] was at the head of this
[00:32] research that is looking at structures
[00:35] that are underneath the bottom of the
[00:38] pyramid. And uh incredibly
[00:40] controversial, very fascinating, and if
[00:43] it's accurate, it essentially rewrites
[00:45] all of human history.
[00:46] >> Yes. Uh thank you for this invitation.
[00:49] And uh yes the group is composed by
[00:52] Colorado Malanga which is the head of
[00:54] the group and the uh dean professor of
[00:58] chemistry at University of Pisa.
[01:02] >> Could you explain your background please
[01:03] so people understand? Yeah
[01:05] >> yes my background is uh this I am a
[01:07] telecommunication engineering. I
[01:09] graduate at the university.
[01:11] >> What is that word again? Say it again.
[01:12] >> Telecommunication engineer.
[01:13] >> Telecommunications engineer. Okay. It's
[01:15] like your your English is excellent but
[01:17] the Italian accent although fabulous
[01:20] sometimes it's difficult to translate.
[01:22] >> Thank you very much Joe. I'm sorry yes
[01:24] that I'm not mother tongue of English
[01:27] but
[01:27] >> still much better than my Italian.
[01:30] >> Okay, thank you. [laughter]
[01:33] >> Yes, I graduated myself in university at
[01:35] the University of Leche south of Italy.
[01:38] very nice university and uh it it was it
[01:43] is has the name of a famous mathematic
[01:47] mathematic
[01:49] Italian which is any deeo
[01:53] de Georgie um
[01:56] was living in the era then John
[02:01] was living also and they uh were they
[02:05] were one against to the other and Uh
[02:08] they were they was both um studying the
[02:11] 19 Hilbert pro problem and John um any
[02:16] de Georgie solved this pro this problem
[02:18] one week before John Nash.
[02:21] >> Ah interesting John Nash who from the
[02:23] famous movie a brilliant mind with
[02:25] Russell Crow.
[02:26] >> Yes.
[02:26] >> Yeah.
[02:27] >> So uh then I performed my PhD at
[02:31] Lasapenza in Rome
[02:33] uh and now I'm here. And how did you get
[02:36] involved in this this discovery?
[02:39] >> Yes. Uh I worked uh on radar and
[02:44] synthetic radar for a lot of time. Um
[02:48] radar
[02:48] >> for the Italian military. Right. Some
[02:50] work.
[02:51] >> Yes. Yes. Some
[02:52] >> which you can't really talk about. No.
[02:54] >> Right. Erh
[02:56] and uh I was um
[03:01] involved in some research where um
[03:04] together with uh the Italian research
[03:07] council of Bari always south of Italy.
[03:11] Uh we we was testing some special
[03:15] processing that were able were able to
[03:17] to to perform something special. And so
[03:21] >> this is
[03:22] >> so this top secret research that you
[03:26] work on for the Italian government led
[03:28] you to try this stuff out try this
[03:31] technology out and this is satellite
[03:33] based technology correct and it's a
[03:35] radio tomography
[03:37] >> yes it is something in my personal
[03:39] opinion very simple uh the radar is
[03:43] installed on board on the satellite the
[03:45] satellite flies at in the space uh at
[03:50] distance of 600 kilometers at 7
[03:54] kilometers/ second in velocity. So while
[03:58] uh it flies along the orbit, it is um
[04:02] able to catch snapshots of the earth.
[04:06] The snapshots has to be focused and this
[04:10] focusing procedure let's say it in the
[04:12] azimut I take it easy in the azimut
[04:15] direction is done by sound by the
[04:18] processing of sound because it is
[04:21] involved at the so-called Doppler
[04:22] frequency
[04:24] uh you know Joe when uh you hear noises
[04:27] that are approaching to you the this
[04:29] noise will rise the frequency because it
[04:33] the the target has a velocity a posity
[04:36] the velocity with respect to U and so
[04:39] the frequency is rised up and this
[04:41] procedure uh allow us to estimate or to
[04:45] to grab let's say the um um vibration
[04:51] information that is always present at
[04:53] the surface of the earth in terms of a
[04:56] vanishment waves that are present on the
[04:58] surface of the earth. So this vi
[05:00] vibration which is mechanical vibration
[05:04] uh carries inside of this the the the
[05:09] information that is located underground
[05:12] and so we did this.
[05:13] >> And was it a specific idea? Was it the
[05:17] idea specifically to look under the
[05:20] pyramids or was it something that was
[05:21] discovered accidentally?
[05:23] >> Okay. Yes. Uh once uh we discovered I we
[05:28] discovered this uh this method
[05:31] uh it was a coincidence that I knew
[05:33] Colorado Malanga and at that time I
[05:36] speak I am we are in 2018 he was
[05:40] studying the pyramids and so we were
[05:44] talking about uh something that uh if if
[05:49] there was some methods able to scan
[05:52] inside the pyramids because he needed
[05:54] some information to to to conclude the
[05:58] research that he was doing. And so uh I
[06:01] proposed him to use my technique and uh
[06:05] we started to work together and so we
[06:08] focused in that time on the pyramids
[06:11] >> and when was this when was the first
[06:15] scans?
[06:16] >> Uh yes in 2019. in 2019. And when you
[06:20] got the data back,
[06:22] >> did you immediately get the data that
[06:25] you're showing today where you see the
[06:26] columns with the coils around it?
[06:28] >> Okay. Uh in let's say that this research
[06:32] is can be divided by two. The first one
[06:36] 1.0 uh we were concentrating research on
[06:39] the Kunum Kufu pyramid, the Kaops
[06:42] pyramid to watch inside the pyramid. And
[06:45] so we have uh detailed tailored our
[06:50] processing to watch only inside the
[06:52] pyramids because that pyramid only one
[06:54] pyramid because we were
[06:58] uh doing that kind of research. Then
[07:00] once we uh discovered things in 2020, we
[07:05] published the peerreview paper and uh we
[07:08] gave uh public the results that we found
[07:12] in inside the kum kum kufu pyramid. We
[07:15] decided to expand our um research in all
[07:20] the the Jiza plateau.
[07:22] >> Can I stop you there? The when you
[07:24] looked so we know quite a bit about the
[07:26] kufu pyramid and what the chambers are
[07:28] inside of it. Did this technology
[07:31] accurately describe the pyramid itself
[07:34] and the insides of it, the chambers that
[07:35] we know exist?
[07:36] >> Absolutely. Yes. Because we have
[07:38] detected this uh multi-layer structure
[07:42] that is inside the Kung Kufu pyramid,
[07:43] the so-called Zed. We have discovered it
[07:47] uh uh very well from the space and it is
[07:50] located inside the pyramid. And also we
[07:54] discovered it in the new we no we
[07:56] discovered it we we um uh we gave an
[08:01] image also of the other known structures
[08:04] like the gr the grand gallery
[08:07] >> the grand gallery
[08:08] >> the grand gallery and then also the
[08:11] queen's chamber and the king's chamber
[08:15] also so
[08:16] >> and accurate in terms of size and
[08:19] dimension
[08:20] >> and also position and location. Okay. So
[08:23] when did you decide to focus below the
[08:26] pyramid?
[08:27] >> Yes. uh we decided to focus below the
[08:30] pyramid. Uh because we uh we were our
[08:34] intention was to expand our um research
[08:39] and then also thanks to the third
[08:41] component of the research group which is
[08:43] Armando May. Uh he suggest us to expand
[08:48] our research and scan all the Giza
[08:51] plateau. And so what what date was it
[08:55] that you discovered these immense
[08:57] columns with the coils around it and all
[08:59] those structures that are underneath the
[09:01] pyramid? Yes, in the second part of of
[09:03] our research, we uh started focusing our
[09:07] scans on the Kraer pyramid and uh like
[09:11] Kunum Kufu and then we adjust our
[09:16] algorithms to go deeper. And so when we
[09:19] did this uh
[09:22] very nice things
[09:26] be began to to appear on our results.
[09:30] What what did you feel when you first
[09:32] saw those images that do appear to be
[09:36] immense columns? Uh I believe they're uh
[09:40] the diameter is 20 m
[09:42] >> 20 minutes.
[09:43] >> So they're huge, enormous columns.
[09:45] >> Yes.
[09:46] >> What what what went through your mind?
[09:48] >> Skepticism.
[09:50] >> Skepticism. I told for uh also Colorado
[09:55] uh was with me because uh
[09:59] we had those results for uh in our um
[10:03] desk without uh disclosure or anything
[10:06] for 6 months because my my opinion was
[10:11] that was not real. Um I uh I did I
[10:18] was thinking that maybe it was noise or
[10:21] some artifacts due due by our uh
[10:25] processing procedures.
[10:27] >> Did give you pause at all that they were
[10:30] so uniform that these columns were in
[10:33] very specific places and that they they
[10:36] lined up there was a uniform gap in
[10:38] between them.
[10:39] >> Yes. And uh uh why we disclosure this?
[10:42] because we started to use also other
[10:44] satellites and uh once we uh at at the
[10:49] beginning we were using only the Italian
[10:51] uh satellite system that is it is cosmos
[10:54] kimemed and cosmos kimemed second
[10:56] generation it's very good very precise
[10:59] but uh we wanted to shift our research
[11:04] using also other satellites because Joe
[11:06] in research when we have diversity
[11:09] diversity is a good thing because it
[11:12] confirms other things that we uh were uh
[11:17] searching we were searching confirmation
[11:20] confirmation. So once we had the same
[11:23] results while we were we was using uh
[11:27] American satellites called the Capella
[11:30] space and and also other satellites
[11:32] having always the same results. We
[11:34] decided to disclosure.
[11:36] >> How many different scans have been done
[11:39] on this area? Two or 300. Two. More than
[11:43] 200.
[11:43] >> More than 200. And all with uniform
[11:45] results.
[11:46] >> Yes.
[11:47] >> Wow.
[11:48] >> Yes.
[11:49] >> There's a lot of resistance to this and
[11:53] it's from the usual characters and it's
[11:56] from people that I would characterize as
[11:59] gatekeepers of archaeological
[12:01] information. And um unfortunately they
[12:04] are not willing to approach this with an
[12:08] open mind. And you see this skepticism
[12:11] that just seems to me to be confirmation
[12:13] bias. They they want this to not be true
[12:16] regardless of the sheer number of scans
[12:19] and the uniformity of the results of
[12:22] these scans. And also the fact that this
[12:24] stuff has been proven to work on other
[12:27] things like didn't you guys use this
[12:30] exact technology to get the exact
[12:33] dimensions of a particle collider that
[12:36] you have?
[12:36] >> Yes. Yes, we have a particle collider
[12:39] where I have born in Lula which is
[12:41] located in the center of Italy. At the
[12:43] center of Italy
[12:47] there is a huge mountain called Grand
[12:50] Saso the Grand Saso Italia which is uh
[12:54] has a maximum altitude of about 3,000 m
[12:59] for being precise 2993 m. And so um
[13:07] there there is a a tunnel very very long
[13:10] tunnel about uh 11 12 kilometers and in
[13:14] [clears throat] the core of this
[13:15] mountain there is a particle collider
[13:17] there is a laboratory let's say like
[13:19] that
[13:20] >> and this technology
[13:22] got the exact dimensions of this
[13:25] particle collider that's deep in this
[13:27] mountain.
[13:27] >> Yes at
[13:30] 1.4 kilometers with respect to the top.
[13:33] >> Wow. Yeah.
[13:34] >> Okay. So, we know it's accurate. We know
[13:36] it works. What do you think it I mean,
[13:38] other than what I said that it's
[13:41] gatekeepers of archaeological
[13:42] information? It's people that don't want
[13:44] to admit that there's perhaps a quite a
[13:46] bit bigger mystery than just the
[13:49] pyramids themselves. What What is What
[13:52] do you think it is that is causing this
[13:54] resistance?
[13:56] >> Personally, it's true. We found a lot of
[13:59] resistance. Yes, it's true. But
[14:00] personally, I don't know why. Erh, I can
[14:04] say something uh regarding to my
[14:06] personal opinion.
[14:09] Uh
[14:11] Joe, it is something that maybe is too
[14:13] big, too huge to
[14:17] to be disclosured like that today. I
[14:19] don't know why
[14:20] >> it's confusing to people because it's
[14:22] it's essentially
[14:24] paradigm shattering because the pyramids
[14:27] themselves are absolutely spectacular.
[14:29] The Great Pyramid is 2,300,000
[14:32] stones. The the alignment is to perfect
[14:35] true now, true north, south, east, and
[14:37] west. It's a really incredible
[14:40] accomplishment. Whoever built it and
[14:42] when they built it, it's just undeniably
[14:45] fascinating that this was done at the
[14:48] the very least 25,500 BC, probably even
[14:52] older than that. We really don't know.
[14:55] >> But that alone is spectacular. But then
[14:58] when you add the findings that you have,
[15:01] it just makes everybody go, "We don't
[15:03] know anything. We really don't. We we
[15:06] know that these things exist, but their
[15:08] purpose has always been speculative. The
[15:11] speculation was that it is some sort of
[15:14] a tomb, but that doesn't make any sense
[15:16] because there's there's no hieroglyphs
[15:19] inside of it. It doesn't seem like a
[15:20] tomb. Doesn't look like a tomb." And I'm
[15:22] sure you're aware of Christopher Dunn's
[15:23] work.
[15:24] >> Yes. Yes. which you know he's an
[15:26] engineer and he said it it appears that
[15:28] this thing is some sort of a mechanical
[15:30] thing and that it's probably designed to
[15:32] generate some kind of power. Yeah. Uh
[15:35] yes in this uh in this context I have
[15:39] spoke a lot with Christopher Dan and uh
[15:43] in in uh um I like a lot his theory and
[15:48] uh it it makes sense and um and so this
[15:53] discoveries matches a lot with his uh
[15:56] with his and also to other scientists
[15:59] that makes make recast the uh effective
[16:04] purpose of the pyramid not to to be
[16:07] tombs. Today we are sure we are sure or
[16:10] of one thing that the pyramids are not
[16:12] tombs. They're not tombs. And what is
[16:15] truly spectacular is that if if this
[16:17] data is accurate, those immense
[16:20] structures that have baffled mankind
[16:23] forever are just the tip of the iceberg.
[16:25] >> Yes.
[16:26] >> That's just the top.
[16:27] >> Yes.
[16:27] >> And underneath it,
[16:29] >> you have these immense structures that
[16:31] we have not yet fully explored. But you
[16:34] have data that shows that. Let's let's
[16:36] look at the images. Let's pull up some
[16:39] of the images so people can see what
[16:40] we're talking about. Cuz once you see
[16:42] it, you mind just goes, "Okay, what are
[16:45] we even talking about?" Like,
[16:47] >> what was this civilization?
[16:50] When did it exist? And what kind of
[16:53] technology would allow them to not just
[16:56] construct the pyramids, which is
[16:57] absolutely baffling, but if this
[17:00] structure that is underneath the
[17:01] pyramids is accurately described by your
[17:03] work, we're looking at something that it
[17:06] it is going to have to change our entire
[17:08] perspective on the history of humanity.
[17:10] Yes, I agree with you Joe because what
[17:13] we found it is something that is has
[17:17] been confirmed by by our measurements
[17:20] and at the moment I suppose that our
[17:23] measurements are the only are the only
[17:26] data that we have because there aren't
[17:28] other other data. So
[17:31] uh what we are uh observing we are we
[17:34] are observing principally vertical
[17:38] structure. This vertical structures has
[17:40] a a pattern a regular pattern and this
[17:43] regular pattern is uh um uh constituted
[17:48] by a so-called spiral nature. I found
[17:51] this and
[17:52] >> okay so what are we looking at here?
[17:55] These are
[17:55] >> that's the right one.
[17:56] >> Yes.
[17:57] >> Yeah. Okay.
[17:58] >> Yes. That is the cafrey pyramid. And you
[18:01] see Joe at the top of the tomography.
[18:04] The tomography is on the x. Uh so the
[18:08] horizontal dimension we have the space.
[18:11] Okay.
[18:11] >> Space adjust the range
[18:14] >> and on the vertical we have the depth.
[18:17] >> Okay.
[18:18] >> Okay. On the top we have the um uh the
[18:22] the the pyramid. You see you see the
[18:24] pyramid on the top. And while you go
[18:28] down, you are observing the structures
[18:31] that are going down. And look, you have
[18:34] the spiral nature of the of the of the
[18:36] structures.
[18:38] >> Okay, this is not the clearest image
[18:40] that I've seen. So, what are Let me see
[18:42] some other images.
[18:43] >> Um,
[18:46] >> because this is just one, right?
[18:48] >> I know. That's what this was from his
[18:50] presentation and I didn't know where to
[18:52] get the best from it.
[18:53] >> Back up one. So
[18:55] >> go go go. Okay. Again
[18:58] we have a lot of images here that that
[19:01] is requesting all the uh the research
[19:04] that we have done together.
[19:07] >> So the images that are going around
[19:09] online that people have seen are these
[19:12] 3D replica. Pull up some more of those.
[19:15] >> Yeah. Get them off the web.
[19:16] >> Okay. Um some of the images online are
[19:19] recreations of what it is observed and
[19:23] what you believe this could look like
[19:25] underneath. Correct.
[19:27] >> Uh we have performed measurements and
[19:31] they are sound measurements that are
[19:34] that has been picked up from the surface
[19:37] of the earth by satellites. So they are
[19:39] very precise and they are coherent. A
[19:42] coherent it means that contains a lot of
[19:45] information. So it is uh characterized
[19:49] to have high entropy and so when we
[19:53] perform the so-called tomographic
[19:55] inversion we can see what there is
[19:57] underneath.
[19:59] >> Okay. So this is a recreation of what
[20:04] you believe it looks like.
[20:06] >> Yes.
[20:06] >> And how are you getting that from the
[20:08] image that's below that?
[20:10] >> Okay.
[20:11] >> So the image is just one aspect of the
[20:13] data. Correct. Yes,
[20:16] the imag
[20:17] >> this this this multicolored
[20:19] >> image. Okay, here we are observing
[20:22] inside the Cafra pyramid and inside the
[20:25] Cafra pyramid uh we are observing those
[20:29] structure there. The the those are
[20:32] inside the Cafra pyramid
[20:36] >> and the image above
[20:38] >> yes
[20:38] >> that is an artist recreation of what you
[20:41] think it looks like. Now, how did you
[20:43] make that determination that that's what
[20:44] it looks like?
[20:45] >> Okay. Um
[20:48] uh the uh 3D model has been has been um
[20:53] retrived not um observing just only one
[20:57] result but observing a lot of results.
[21:01] So putting on a table all the results
[21:04] that we have we were able to retrive so
[21:08] to facilitate people to read our
[21:11] measurements. Okay. So observing the
[21:14] results we were able to uh determine the
[21:18] spirals and the uh structures that are
[21:22] located starting from the base of the
[21:25] caf pyramid going down.
[21:26] >> I've seen other images of the scans that
[21:28] are more convincing than the one that's
[21:30] below. So, let's see if we can find some
[21:31] of those.
[21:34] What are they? What else do you have
[21:36] here?
[21:37] >> Yes, these are all images that are
[21:39] related to the first uh
[21:41] >> So, this is just an article that's in
[21:42] the news.
[21:43] >> Okay.
[21:43] >> Yeah, I just I mean, I even went here. I
[21:49] >> um what is like where's a a good place
[21:52] to get the best versions of these
[21:54] images? Like that right there. Okay.
[21:57] >> It's just kind of
[21:58] >> Okay. What is this? Okay. Uh here we are
[22:01] watching a wide area of of our
[22:04] tomographies. Look and we see the
[22:06] structures that are going down.
[22:07] >> Yes. This is much clearer.
[22:09] >> Yes.
[22:10] >> Okay. And
[22:11] >> and below the below the structure at the
[22:13] end of the structures there are huge
[22:16] chambers but they are really huge
[22:19] approximately having a uh a width and
[22:23] the length and the height of 80 80 m. So
[22:28] 80 meter structures that are below all
[22:31] of this.
[22:32] >> Yes.
[22:32] >> So almost the size of a football field
[22:35] below all this. That is some sort of a
[22:37] chamber.
[22:38] >> Yeah.
[22:39] >> And um see see if you can find some
[22:41] other images, Jamie.
[22:43] So the coils,
[22:47] how did you determine that there was
[22:49] coils? Is it just because of the gaps
[22:51] that you see in the imagery? whether
[22:54] they come in this uniform pattern
[22:55] pattern that I I have
[22:59] two or three slides on my presentation
[23:01] where we find the coils.
[23:04] >> Okay, let's see if we can find those
[23:05] slides.
[23:06] >> You know which you know which slide
[23:07] maybe
[23:08] >> if you go down please. Yeah. Uh wait a
[23:11] minute.
[23:13] Okay. Okay. Here. Okay. Here we can
[23:17] observe a regular pattern. So not uh not
[23:20] coils. And we and we go we go down
[23:25] please. Okay. Regular pattern. And the
[23:28] coils are beginning to be seen there on
[23:31] the third image
[23:33] >> here. Regular pattern. Go down please.
[23:37] And here. This is in my personal opinion
[23:40] uh the fourth image uh from the uh left
[23:46] to the right. The fifth image. One, two,
[23:48] three. Four. The fourth image. I'm
[23:49] sorry. where you have a core at the at
[23:54] the center of the the the coil at the at
[23:59] the center of the the structure and then
[24:03] we have
[24:05] a something that spirals down.
[24:09] >> So has anybody speculated about what
[24:12] this could possibly be like what these
[24:14] coils are?
[24:15] >> Yes. erh I spoke with uh uh two
[24:20] independent with let's say with some
[24:23] independent researchers and uh uh
[24:26] especially with Christopher Dan and uh
[24:30] um
[24:32] and also uh I spoke also with Jeffrey
[24:36] that uh is uh uh considering also the
[24:41] Giza power plant like a chemical reactor
[24:44] or something like that. So we have on
[24:46] one side uh
[24:49] uh uh scientists that say okay it can be
[24:53] something related to electricity or or
[24:56] we have something related to chemical
[24:59] chemicals or other things in my personal
[25:02] opinion me I can see anything I can say
[25:06] anything because I just measured what
[25:09] there is there so it is not my how you
[25:13] say my my job to do this my job is okay
[25:17] here we have the measurements and now we
[25:20] have to see what there is inside my in
[25:22] my personal opinion this is the right um
[25:27] time
[25:28] to say okay let's go be let's go there
[25:32] and see what there is
[25:33] >> let's start digging
[25:34] >> yes
[25:35] >> yeah um pull up some more images please
[25:36] Jamie um so
[25:38] >> yes this is very important if you want I
[25:40] can I can tell you about this
[25:43] >> okay because It is uh the very important
[25:47] u project research project that uh I am
[25:52] working now and it is something that if
[25:56] could be possible we can go there and
[25:58] without digging anything we can go
[26:02] below. Why? Because uh belonging between
[26:07] the Sphinx and the Cafra pyramid, there
[26:10] are some shafts. And there there are the
[26:14] photos of the shafts where we can go in
[26:17] Sidto and we can uh physically go there
[26:21] and see and watch those shafts.
[26:25] Currently the shafts are
[26:28] blocked by debris and there is also
[26:31] rubbish inside. So we uh I performed I
[26:37] performed a lot of scans at at those
[26:40] shafts and you see jaw the sha the the
[26:43] shafts goes down down down down down and
[26:46] they reach
[26:48] chambers that are below
[26:50] >> and that is the doc doppler tomography
[26:52] readings. Yes.
[26:53] >> So these shafts go down. How far do they
[26:55] go down?
[26:56] >> Yes, they go down approximately 600 m.
[27:00] >> 600 m. Wow. Yes.
[27:03] >> So 600 m down and then they reach a
[27:06] chamber.
[27:06] >> Yes.
[27:07] >> What is the conventional explanation for
[27:09] these shafts? Is there one
[27:12] >> like what is what what do current
[27:14] archaeologists what does academia what
[27:16] do they think these things are? Leave
[27:17] that right there for a second.
[27:18] >> Yes. Yes. This is the complete 3D model
[27:21] that me and Colorado did. And uh so to
[27:25] uh observe all the structures that we
[27:28] have find that we found um
[27:33] evaluating
[27:35] the tomographies that we have done on
[27:38] the Jiza plateau.
[27:39] >> So it's not just under the great
[27:42] pyramid, it's under all three pyramids
[27:44] >> and also the Sphinx.
[27:45] >> And also the Sphinx.
[27:46] >> Yes.
[27:46] >> And they all seem to go do they go down
[27:49] to a uniform depth? Erh, we found at the
[27:54] moment the same depth. Yes.
[27:57] >> And they all have chambers at the
[28:00] bottom.
[28:00] >> Yes. Absolutely. Yes. And that's the the
[28:02] the in my personal opinion my the nice
[28:06] thing that uh that we are dealing at the
[28:08] end of the structures of these tubes
[28:12] that are going down. There are um huge
[28:16] uh chambers.
[28:18] >> How huge? Uh, as I told you before, 80 m
[28:22] times 80 m and times 80 m of height.
[28:26] >> And that's uniform underneath all the
[28:28] pyramids. It's the [clears throat] same
[28:29] dimensions.
[28:29] >> Yes.
[28:30] >> Wow.
[28:31] >> When you look at it like this, when you
[28:33] see your 3D recreation of the site, it's
[28:37] stunning.
[28:38] >> Yeah.
[28:38] >> Because it just it just makes you think
[28:40] like, what is this?
[28:44] I mean, I can understand the skepticism
[28:46] and I can understand the resistance to
[28:48] this that modern academics have because
[28:51] this throws a giant monkey wrench into
[28:55] everything.
[28:56] This make makes everything we know about
[29:00] that area thrown into question.
[29:03] Because if this is true, like I said,
[29:06] this this rewrites history because
[29:08] you're dealing with an advanced
[29:10] civilization that is demonstrabably more
[29:13] advanced than us.
[29:16] Yes. Because uh they were able to
[29:21] to build very precise things, but not at
[29:26] the surface of the earth below.
[29:28] >> Well, they even built a lot of precise
[29:30] things that confuse us.
[29:32] One of the things that Christopher Dunn
[29:34] gave me is this. It's a the recreation
[29:36] of the vase of one of the many voses
[29:39] that they have that is
[29:42] >> accurate in its the the way it was made.
[29:46] >> Yeah.
[29:47] >> Down to
[29:49] god, what was the number? A thousandth
[29:51] of a human hair, something crazy like
[29:53] that. like much less than a human hair
[29:56] in the diameter, in the uniformity of
[29:59] it, in the fact that it was carved out
[30:01] of this incredibly hard stone at a time
[30:04] where there was no metal alloys. They,
[30:06] you know, there supposedly had copper
[30:07] tools. No one understands it. No one
[30:10] knows how they did it. And it has
[30:11] handles on it, so it couldn't have even
[30:13] been turned on a lathe.
[30:16] Yes. And also if we go inside the
[30:18] pyramids inside and also outside the
[30:21] pyramids we can observe that the
[30:24] measurements are very precise. The the
[30:28] chambers are constituted by flat walls.
[30:32] We don't have inscriptions
[30:34] uh and the dimensions are all related to
[30:38] the constants to the major constants of
[30:41] universe.
[30:42] >> Right? They're all aligned to the
[30:44] constellations. There's a lot of like
[30:46] very strange calculations that they were
[30:49] able to make like pathways where the sun
[30:52] during the solar equinox
[30:54] >> passes right through. It's a fascinating
[30:57] place.
[30:58] >> Yes.
[30:58] >> What when you
[31:00] started [clears throat]
[31:01] acquiring this data and you started
[31:03] accumulating it and then started going
[31:06] over it with experts, what did that feel
[31:09] like to you when you're when you
[31:10] realizing, oh, this is real?
[31:13] >> Yes.
[31:15] It was something that uh was very
[31:20] very nice for me because [laughter]
[31:24] because uh when we disc the thing was um
[31:29] I
[31:31] was saying always to Gor
[31:33] shall we disclosure this or not?
[31:36] I think for for now not for now not but
[31:39] then the results were always the same.
[31:42] So we decided to to disclose this uh
[31:45] this
[31:45] >> how long did you sit on it before you
[31:47] decided to disclose it?
[31:48] >> One year.
[31:49] >> One year. So for that one year, how
[31:50] conflicted were you? You must have been
[31:52] walking around like I have the biggest
[31:53] secret on earth.
[31:54] >> Yes.
[31:56] >> How weird was that? [laughter]
[32:00] Only two person knew this.
[32:02] >> That's crazy. [laughter]
[32:04] That's crazy. two people having one of
[32:07] the biggest secrets on earth
[32:10] >> that's backed by data. I mean it's not
[32:12] it's not even like you know someone told
[32:14] you something like you have
[32:16] extraordinary data due to fascinating
[32:19] modern technology that indicates that
[32:22] there's these paradigm shifting
[32:24] structures.
[32:25] >> Yeah. And uh I I tell you Joe, I I would
[32:30] like to go there and see what there is
[32:35] in person.
[32:36] >> Yes.
[32:36] >> Because it's it's now time. I think
[32:39] >> is there resistance from Egypt and the
[32:42] people that are in control of that area
[32:44] or are they fascinated by it?
[32:46] >> I tell you Joe, I didn't f find a lot of
[32:50] resistance. There is I found a lot of
[32:53] resistance in the internet. Yes. A lot
[32:55] of the banking a lot of people that no
[32:57] it's not true it's not true
[33:00] >> a lot of people that continues
[33:03] were continuing to say no rather can
[33:06] penetrate the earth for one kilometer 4
[33:09] and they didn't know or they they they
[33:13] purposely not saying this that we are
[33:15] not penetrating anything because we are
[33:18] just grabbing the entropy that is on the
[33:21] surface of the earth and with with with
[33:23] that information we are retriving
[33:25] tomographies. It's something new that I
[33:28] invented but it works because we have
[33:30] benchmarks that demonstrates the
[33:33] effectiveness of the method and it's
[33:35] this is 100%.
[33:37] >> And there's also been some criticism
[33:38] that the patents have expired but that's
[33:41] because you have new patents on better
[33:43] stuff.
[33:44] >> Yes. Now Jo under NDA. So h I uh we just
[33:49] uh I think I I can say something about
[33:51] the second patent because just yesterday
[33:53] we filed the patent in USA.
[33:56] >> Nice.
[33:56] >> Yes.
[33:57] >> Wow. Um have any academics reached out
[34:01] to you in support that are interested in
[34:04] this and would like to explore this
[34:05] further?
[34:06] >> Yes. Yes. Erh I I tell you this there
[34:10] are uh companies uh related to mining
[34:15] and uh uh crude oil extraction and then
[34:19] also water. Uh Joe today we are living a
[34:24] particular time because water is very
[34:27] important. Uh we are in a so-called
[34:30] water emergency in all the world. So for
[34:34] me the first thing that we have to do is
[34:36] to scan
[34:38] uh the earth and uh uh to fetch to to
[34:41] find to try and find other uh let's say
[34:45] uh opportunity to ext extract not salty
[34:48] water because it's very important.
[34:51] >> So you'll be using this technology for
[34:52] that as well.
[34:53] >> We uh for now not but I'm thinking to do
[34:55] it.
[34:56] >> Well it makes sense. I mean, if it can
[34:57] detect this, it should be able to detect
[34:59] that as well. And that will be if and
[35:01] it's and it also if it's accurate, that
[35:03] will also help garner support. Yes. For
[35:05] this this exploration of whatever is
[35:09] under there.
[35:09] >> Yeah. And uh so uh we we are receiving a
[35:14] lot of uh uh calls from uh companies
[35:18] that want to work with me. And so let's
[35:21] see what what we can do. And so this is
[35:23] all companies that have reached out
[35:25] after you released the results
[35:27] underneath the pyramids.
[35:28] >> Uh the most of them are calling me
[35:31] recently,
[35:32] >> right? So they've heard about
[35:34] >> relatively recently. Yes.
[35:35] >> Well, that's capitalism, right? They
[35:36] they say, "Oh, we can make money off of
[35:38] this."
[35:38] >> Yes.
[35:39] >> Yeah. Well, that's good. That gets
[35:41] people interested. It gets people
[35:43] involved in this.
[35:43] >> And so we have also philanthrop
[35:46] philanthropic project. We are opening a
[35:49] um a foundation in Malta. Uh we we are
[35:54] realizing it in uh two weeks and uh we
[35:57] we will have a foundation in Malta and
[36:00] with the with that foundation we can
[36:02] operate also philanthropically for the
[36:04] the Giza plateau and other uh and other
[36:08] uh ancient megalytics that are located
[36:11] in all the world. We have a plan to scan
[36:13] everything
[36:14] >> really. What is next?
[36:16] Uh maybe we we can see uh Pumapo or
[36:20] other sites.
[36:22] >> Yeah. Yeah. Go back.
[36:25] >> Go back. Yes.
[36:27] >> Have you looked at the labyrinths
[36:29] underneath uh the the ones that were
[36:31] described by Herododus that Ben Van
[36:33] Kirkwick has been talking about and his
[36:35] Uncharted exchange
[36:38] atrium with a 40 meter metallic object
[36:43] that's the shape of a tic tac in there.
[36:44] >> Yes. They asked me to do it and we will
[36:48] do it.
[36:49] >> Yeah, you have to do that.
[36:50] >> I I tell you Joe the processing is very
[36:53] nice but requests a lot of calculations.
[36:57] So uh it is time consuming. So at the
[37:00] moment at the moment uh we have some
[37:04] computers that are dedicated on JA and
[37:07] other project that we are doing and in
[37:10] the future maybe we will have other um
[37:14] other machines that uh can work to to do
[37:18] other things but we will do it. We we
[37:20] need time but we will do it. Now, are
[37:22] you absolutely convinced that this data
[37:25] is accurate or have any of the
[37:28] criticisms of any of the people that are
[37:29] trying to debunk it? Have has any of
[37:31] that resonated with you and rang true?
[37:34] Is there any validity to any of the
[37:35] criticisms?
[37:38] >> Radar is only precise. The nice thing
[37:42] that has radar is the precision
[37:45] and especially from space because space
[37:48] it is a very silent environment. you
[37:51] don't have noise something the the
[37:54] platform is very stable. So when you
[37:56] transmit electromagnetic waves
[37:59] >> they return back with absolutely precise
[38:02] with absolute precision
[38:03] >> and it's recreated over and over again
[38:05] in these 200 plus scans that you've done
[38:08] with various different satellites.
[38:10] Correct. Not just one so that one could
[38:12] have errors.
[38:13] >> Yeah.
[38:13] >> So you're convinced?
[38:14] >> I'm convinced 100% because
[38:16] >> wow I did the I invented the method.
[38:20] Yes, I know. But uh I tell you that uh I
[38:25] am happy if somebody can replicate
[38:27] things. So if other research groups can
[38:30] replicate the things that I'm showing, I
[38:33] am happy.
[38:34] >> Well, you got there first. Yeah. So no
[38:36] matter what [laughter]
[38:39] >> I mean you if this is correct you will
[38:41] go down in history as one of the most
[38:43] important figures in archaeology because
[38:46] if you are
[38:49] >> you're welcome but I it's just fact if
[38:52] what you're saying is true and we're
[38:54] just recently discovering this in the
[38:55] 21st century. I mean that's absolutely
[38:58] mindbending.
[39:00] >> Uh thank you for this. Uh yes I I am
[39:04] happy for uh for being in this uh but uh
[39:09] not al not not only me other people
[39:11] helping me to to do my work. Yes.
[39:14] >> Oh of sure of course a lot of people
[39:16] >> and in principal my family.
[39:17] >> Yeah. um this these structures and this
[39:21] this whole area if this turns out to be
[39:25] something that you don't find just at
[39:28] the Giza plateau but around other parts
[39:30] of Egypt. I mean there's always been a
[39:33] lot of speculation as to whether or not
[39:35] a civilization existed in subsaharan
[39:37] Africa an advanced civilization that in
[39:39] the area are not now sand you could
[39:41] probably do that same sort of research
[39:43] there as well.
[39:43] >> Yes. Yes. I I agree with this and uh we
[39:46] will do it. Yes.
[39:48] >> Wow. What is life like for you now
[39:52] having this exposed and now you know
[39:55] having this on the internet and all the
[39:57] speculation and all this excitement?
[39:59] What has that been like for you?
[40:00] >> Yes, I am not very used uh on all this
[40:05] exposure in on the internet. Uh
[40:10] it is something that I have to uh get
[40:12] used of this. Yes.
[40:16] My my life is simple, Joe. I I live in
[40:20] Italy and uh but uh um
[40:26] now I repeat this uh it is time to go
[40:31] ahead and go on the uh Jiza plateau and
[40:37] in person I I wish to see the effective
[40:43] structure how they are and the purpose
[40:46] of the of all the plateau what it is And
[40:49] is there plans to do that in person to
[40:51] do some sort of an excavation?
[40:54] >> Yes. Um I wrote a project proposal which
[41:00] is a research and also not research a
[41:02] proposal and uh is now um
[41:08] we we are uh our intention is to submit
[41:12] this proposal at the Egyptian
[41:14] authorities.
[41:17] If you want I can explain you this
[41:19] proposal
[41:20] >> please. Um we are involving University
[41:23] of Ferrara
[41:26] um
[41:27] principal scientist professor Savakaro
[41:31] Italian professor in she's a geologist
[41:36] um
[41:38] and other uh and other governmental
[41:42] Italian governmental uh in institutions
[41:46] that are very clever to do scans in sidu
[41:48] scans. So we are not using my my
[41:52] technique. We use the state-of-the-art
[41:54] technique that it is recognized by
[41:58] science today.
[42:00] And
[42:02] uh our uh intention is to
[42:06] uh concentrate the efforts on those
[42:09] shafts that I that I showed you that we
[42:12] we we have seen because we are we are
[42:16] not 90 99% convinced that or sure that
[42:21] those those are natural entrance into
[42:24] the the uh the structures that are below
[42:28] that are located below because we have
[42:30] the vertical structures and
[42:33] you saw on the on the tomographies you
[42:36] have also horizontal connections.
[42:38] >> So there's corridors.
[42:39] >> Yes, you have.
[42:40] >> And how large are these corridors?
[42:42] >> Uh
[42:44] about uh they they are tall about 3 m
[42:47] tall.
[42:48] >> Okay.
[42:48] >> So about 9 ft tall.
[42:50] >> Yes. Yes. that can that will uh using
[42:55] these corridors you uh will arrive
[42:57] directly inside the the the coils that
[43:00] we are that we are uh uh um visualizing
[43:06] uh that we v visualize uh before.
[43:09] >> So there's passages and shafts and these
[43:13] uh enormous
[43:15] ways that they can go back and forth in
[43:17] between these various structures. The
[43:20] thing that we have to do now is to clean
[43:22] those shafts. We have to do uh cleaning
[43:25] because now they are um
[43:28] >> sand debris.
[43:29] >> Yeah.
[43:30] >> Yeah.
[43:31] >> And um
[43:33] is there a timeline on when you would
[43:35] like to start cleaning these shafts and
[43:37] start doing this kind of stuff?
[43:38] >> Yes, it depends when we submit the
[43:40] project. The project is ready. Uh I know
[43:43] uh people that uh are living in uh in um
[43:48] uh in Egypt that when we are ready we
[43:51] can submit the project proposal then we
[43:53] are we are at uh when the government if
[43:58] if approved the project we can start.
[44:00] >> Now I would imagine that something like
[44:02] this something at this scale would
[44:03] require enormous funding.
[44:05] >> Yeah.
[44:06] >> And how do you uh how do you hope to
[44:08] acquire that? We we can make um we can
[44:13] say uh people that this this work is not
[44:17] for me but is for humans. And so people
[44:23] uh we we we ask people to help us in uh
[44:28] getting money to perform the work. We
[44:31] have to ask people. Have you reached out
[44:33] to any like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk type
[44:36] people that have tons of money that
[44:38] might be interested in doing something
[44:39] like this?
[44:40] >> I don't know them, Joe.
[44:41] >> You don't know them?
[44:42] >> No. But maybe uh
[44:44] >> it's a big ask.
[44:46] >> Yes,
[44:46] >> it's a big ask, you know, asking.
[44:48] >> It's a big ask.
[44:49] >> A few billion dollars to go dig around
[44:50] under the pyramids. I mean, how much
[44:52] money do you think it costs to to do
[44:54] this
[44:55] >> to do? We we we have to do we we did an
[44:57] estimation of uh the the
[45:01] an estimation about I don't know for
[45:04] maybe maybe uh belonging for 20 millions
[45:08] or or more
[45:09] >> $20 million
[45:10] >> yes $20 million
[45:11] >> and this is just to clean the shaft and
[45:13] go underneath
[45:14] >> and because why so much money because we
[45:18] are our intention is to work safety I
[45:21] don't want that people has to go down
[45:23] the shaft and work. We will we want to
[45:26] use drones, robots to to make something
[45:30] automatically and so go down by using
[45:34] machines, not humans.
[45:35] >> Yeah, that makes sense.
[45:36] >> Yeah.
[45:36] >> Yeah. And that way you can get accurate
[45:38] real time video and
[45:40] >> Yes. Yes.
[45:41] >> Wow. with cameras and uh it will be
[45:44] something I am thinking about this the
[45:48] most maybe is one of the most ancient
[45:51] megalithic structure that we are dealing
[45:53] now can be recovered by the most modern
[45:58] technology that we have now today and so
[46:00] we can recover it modern and ancient
[46:03] together.
[46:04] >> So you've been giving this presentation
[46:06] now and you've been going around. What
[46:08] has that been like? What has the
[46:10] reception of it been like?
[46:12] >> Yes. A a moderate
[46:15] positive reception.
[46:16] >> Moderate positive. So people that are
[46:19] like if this is true it's amazing but
[46:21] you have to show me more.
[46:23] >> Yes.
[46:25] >> I tell you in this project proposal I am
[46:27] out.
[46:29] >> You're out.
[46:29] >> Yes. It is better than that University
[46:33] of Ferrara that is one of the most
[46:35] important university in Italy can stay
[46:38] there and uh manage all the work is
[46:42] better
[46:43] >> right
[46:43] >> and I'm out
[46:44] >> right you showed them what's there show
[46:47] them the technology now
[46:49] >> good luck
[46:50] >> thank you
[46:51] >> thank [laughter] you thank you and good
[46:52] luck so tell me about this presentation
[46:54] so how do you set this up I know you you
[46:56] brought some of the slides of this
[46:58] presentation tell tell me how you set
[47:00] this up.
[47:01] >> How you
[47:02] >> how you set it up? So, how you explain
[47:04] it to these when you have these, you
[47:05] know, semi-eptical scientists that are
[47:07] sitting down there and you're going to
[47:09] tell them, I'm about to rewrite human
[47:10] history. How do you set this up?
[47:13] >> [laughter]
[47:14] >> Oh, they were uh they were listening me
[47:16] very well and they [snorts] asking me uh
[47:18] things uh about how they everyone um the
[47:23] first thing that they asked me is how it
[47:25] works and that's good and so I slowly
[47:28] explain explain them how it works and
[47:32] how I arrived to to to make this
[47:34] presentation so to have our results and
[47:37] uh uh and so and so on and They
[47:43] they they
[47:45] someone of them is skeptical, someone a
[47:47] bit less skeptical,
[47:49] >> which is what you want.
[47:50] >> Yes.
[47:50] >> Yes. You want healthy debate about this
[47:52] kind of stuffy debate.
[47:53] >> That's the only way you find out what
[47:54] the truth is.
[47:56] >> Yes. Only only having a you a healthy
[48:00] debate, we can find what is the truth. I
[48:03] I don't want to polarize people for me.
[48:07] You know, it's not my it's not my job.
[48:09] No. Well, not only that, it's not you're
[48:11] just discovering something. Yes.
[48:13] >> This is something that's there. And for
[48:16] people to just put on a skeptical lens
[48:19] and just not look at it at all is crazy.
[48:22] >> Yes.
[48:22] >> Like if you're skeptical, we should
[48:24] probably explore it. And if you're
[48:25] wrong, okay, now we know it's not true.
[48:28] >> But if it is true, it's a crime to not
[48:31] investigate.
[48:32] >> Do not investigate. It's a crime to not
[48:33] investigate. Yes. And I tell you the
[48:38] the uh solution to we we don't we don't
[48:42] have to dig holes uh uh ruin the what is
[48:47] now preserved. No, we we have to only
[48:49] clean enough. We have to only clean and
[48:52] we have to use what there is
[48:55] made. It's for us because those shafts
[48:59] they are for us. They are calling us. We
[49:02] our
[49:03] um our rights are to clean them and see
[49:08] what there is and do go down and explore
[49:12] them. Personally,
[49:13] >> well, it just seems like these shafts
[49:15] exist at alone and they are at that
[49:18] depth that you describe and they are at
[49:20] the dimensions you describe. It really
[49:22] does lend credence to what you're
[49:24] saying. Yeah. because it seems like
[49:25] there's a purpose for those things. And
[49:27] if they do go down to the area where all
[49:30] these structures are,
[49:32] >> seems like there's something there.
[49:33] >> In my personal opinion, they were built
[49:35] purposely. And if you see the the
[49:38] >> access points probably.
[49:39] >> Yes, they are access points. They are
[49:41] they were made probably to um you know,
[49:45] Joe uh when you go deep below the earth,
[49:49] the temperature rises a lot. So there is
[49:52] a certain uh uh ratio uh of um where the
[49:58] temperature rises uh proportional to the
[50:01] depth that you are going. So the shafts
[50:05] are made purposely to take the their
[50:08] their function is to transport air light
[50:12] and so cool what there is inside.
[50:17] >> Well that makes sense.
[50:18] >> Yeah. and also access
[50:21] um show me some of the other slides and
[50:23] other things that are in your
[50:24] presentation so we can get a more
[50:25] comprehensive understanding of what
[50:27] we're looking at.
[50:32] [clears throat]
[50:32] >> Okay.
[50:33] >> Yes. This is uh the Zed this is ah Mario
[50:38] Pinker. Maru Pinker was a researcher
[50:43] uh that he died the on 2011 12 and uh he
[50:51] was studying the zed which is the
[50:53] multi-layer monument let's call it a
[50:56] monument but it's not a monument because
[50:58] it it has a certain and very precise
[51:01] function that is uh inside the pyramid
[51:04] this is the
[51:05] >> and this is [clears throat] the uh
[51:07] outlined image in the lower left hand
[51:09] corner.
[51:10] >> Yeah, that's the tomography that we that
[51:12] we have retrieved. It looks very
[51:13] precise,
[51:14] >> right? It looks exactly like what it
[51:15] looks like in the actual image. What is
[51:17] that thing? What is the what do you
[51:19] think the function of that thing is?
[51:20] >> Yes. Uh the function is um is is this uh
[51:27] uh it is you you see on the top of the
[51:29] structure there is something like
[51:31] >> like a cap.
[51:32] >> Yes, like a cap.
[51:35] uh that cap uh is has a a precise
[51:39] function to act attract the in the the
[51:45] vibration.
[51:47] Okay. It's an antenna
[51:49] in the in the vibration domain. Okay.
[51:55] >> Antenna in the vibration domain. Yes.
[51:57] Okay.
[51:57] attract the the energy in terms of uh
[52:02] mechanical vibration and propagates them
[52:06] below.
[52:08] There are other slides please. Okay. Uh
[52:11] here I did a simulation. Uh now I'm
[52:14] sorry because I don't have the video
[52:16] because this is a PDF but uh I I um uh
[52:22] reproduced the function of the zed on
[52:24] the computer.
[52:26] Okay.
[52:27] >> Okay.
[52:28] >> And look on the right side, we have all
[52:33] the vibrations that interacts one to
[52:35] each other to each layer. Look.
[52:38] >> Mhm.
[52:38] >> And you can see that each layer. Look
[52:41] how strange it is. Each layer on the top
[52:45] of each layer, it is scattered.
[52:48] Look.
[52:49] >> Okay.
[52:49] >> On the top of the each layer and the
[52:51] bottom is very flat. It's flat. So what
[52:54] is that? It is something related to
[52:57] filter. It is a It is a low pass filter.
[53:00] A made by stones.
[53:04] Very crazy. This that's a low pass
[53:06] filter.
[53:07] >> A lowass filter. What exactly is a
[53:09] lowass filter?
[53:10] >> Yes. A low pass filter is a filter that
[53:12] allow us that that allows the
[53:15] transmission only of certain frequencies
[53:19] and reject other frequencies. So it is a
[53:22] stabilizer frequency stabilizer and the
[53:25] low pass or a a certain low value
[53:29] frequency.
[53:31] Okay.
[53:31] >> Right. And so this aligns with
[53:34] Christopher Dunn's theory. Yeah.
[53:36] >> That there was something underneath the
[53:39] the pyramid that there was a a chamber
[53:42] that was they were using to generate
[53:45] vibration and that that vibration would
[53:48] go through the entire structure.
[53:49] >> Yes. And look, Joe, the last layer,
[53:53] look, transmits
[53:55] directly inside
[53:58] the the the so-called uh sarcophagus.
[54:01] That's not a sarcophagus there.
[54:05] >> And so what do you think that what they
[54:07] call a sarcophagus? This immense granite
[54:10] box.
[54:10] >> Yeah. Let's call it Yes. The gr the
[54:12] granite box. Yes. And then inside the
[54:15] granic box
[54:18] was done to contain a man a body. And
[54:21] that vibration look
[54:24] collapses at the center of the granite
[54:27] box where the man was lying down.
[54:29] >> So do you think there was actually a man
[54:30] inside that? So a person would lay in
[54:33] that box.
[54:33] >> Yes.
[54:34] >> And what what happened to them?
[54:36] >> I don't know.
[54:37] >> Whoa.
[54:39] So
[54:40] >> I don't know. That's a simulation that I
[54:43] did, but it's precise.
[54:44] >> So, you don't think it's for a dead
[54:46] body? You think it's for a live body?
[54:48] >> Yes.
[54:48] >> And so, a person would lay there and
[54:50] have some probably incredibly profound
[54:53] experience with whatever
[54:56] >> Probably. Yes.
[54:58] >> What do you think it was? Like, if you
[55:01] just wanted to get crazy and put on the
[55:03] tinfoil hat and speculate, what do you
[55:05] think it was?
[55:07] I mean, what would happen to a person if
[55:09] they encountered this kind of vibration?
[55:11] these kind of frequencies and in this
[55:13] resonating granite box
[55:18] >> I can say something that is not
[55:20] scientific uh recognizing.
[55:22] >> Yeah, that's what I want.
[55:23] >> Yeah. [laughter]
[55:28] Maybe
[55:29] >> keep it up there. [laughter]
[55:32] >> What do you think?
[55:33] >> Maybe that person was ready to have an
[55:35] out of the body experience induced.
[55:37] >> Oh, like a gateway.
[55:41] a gateway to the spirit world.
[55:46] Look at on the top you have the antenna.
[55:50] The antenna is recepting all the
[55:52] vibrations that transmits
[55:56] all the signal below directly inside the
[56:00] granite box. It's very exciting.
[56:02] >> And what do you think was generating
[56:05] these vibrations? Ah yes the natural the
[56:08] uh the wind the natural vibration
[56:11] vibration of the earth and also some uh
[56:15] let's say
[56:17] uh flowing the the the flowing of water
[56:20] also the flowing of water and generated
[56:22] by
[56:22] >> flowing water and then there was also
[56:24] shafts that were this is part of
[56:26] Christopher Dunn's theory these shafts
[56:28] that reached the outside of space that
[56:30] he thinks were attracting space
[56:33] radiation
[56:34] >> can be Yeah, that's another possibility.
[56:36] >> Yes, another possibility.
[56:37] >> He also had a a theory that perhaps the
[56:40] lower chamber that's below the the
[56:42] pyramid itself that there was some
[56:44] mechanical device inside of there that
[56:47] was generating vibration
[56:49] >> for this uh can be. Yes, can be. But we
[56:53] don't boom through the entire structure
[56:56] and this is creating this vibration.
[56:58] That's the antenna. You've got this
[57:00] filter through it and then someone is
[57:02] laying in the sarcophagus tripping
[57:04] balls. Yes. Is that
[57:05] >> Whoa.
[57:07] That's crazy.
[57:10] That's crazy.
[57:12] Do you imagine if this entire structure
[57:15] was just built so that someone could
[57:17] have some sort of a bizarre out-of- body
[57:20] experience or psychedelic gateway
[57:22] experience?
[57:24] >> I think that's true. I think it's
[57:25] psychedelic Disney World. [laughter]
[57:27] >> I do. I seriously I had I had that
[57:28] epiphany like two months ago.
[57:30] >> Really?
[57:31] >> I don't want to explain it, but yeah.
[57:32] Uh, I was look looking at a picture of
[57:34] me when I was a kid at a like a Cedar
[57:37] Point, which is like roller coaster
[57:38] place. I was just thinking of how much
[57:40] effort we put in to making kids or young
[57:44] adults have a wild experience. Yeah.
[57:46] >> That is only
[57:48] uh in reference, you only understand it
[57:51] if you live there. If you found Disney
[57:53] World now in a thousand years, you'd be
[57:54] like, "What the [ __ ] They worship mice?
[57:57] [laughter]
[57:57] >> What the [ __ ] are you talking about?
[57:58] This is insane. Look at all the pictures
[58:00] of mice everywhere."
[58:01] >> That's so true. But you'd see that giant
[58:02] castle and there's rides everywhere and
[58:04] you you would have no idea what the
[58:05] experience of that ride would have been
[58:06] like or the teacups,
[58:08] >> right?
[58:08] >> It's nonsense. It's fun for kids,
[58:11] >> but also would make them feel
[58:14] amazing, but also adding what this
[58:16] vibration stuff does and sound and music
[58:18] and all these other things. You can put
[58:20] them all together and be like you could
[58:21] feel like a god.
[58:22] >> Yeah.
[58:23] >> If lightning hit the thing, you'd be
[58:24] like, "What the I don't know." It's I
[58:26] just had that wild idea one day. It's an
[58:29] interesting idea because if you think
[58:30] people have always been fascinated by
[58:32] achieving novel experiences and what
[58:36] more novel experience than a 2,300,000
[58:40] stone structure that's perfectly aligned
[58:43] to true north, south, east, and west
[58:44] aligns to the stars of Orion's belt.
[58:46] >> Yes.
[58:47] >> You lie inside a stone box and the
[58:51] vibrations hit you and you're in that
[58:53] box.
[58:55] more more
[58:56] >> and naturally you go out of the body.
[58:58] >> What it who knows what it does to the
[59:00] body and the mind because we know that
[59:02] the mind is capable of producing
[59:03] indogenous psychedelic chemicals. We
[59:06] also know that people have a very
[59:07] profound reaction to frequencies. That's
[59:09] why sound hits us so hard and we love
[59:12] music and and just vibration itself and
[59:14] and this sound weapon that they just
[59:16] recently used in Venezuela supposedly to
[59:20] knock out all Maduro's troops. What what
[59:23] could this thing have been?
[59:26] >> Yes. Um
[59:29] I am relative that the the principal
[59:34] actor of everything can be water
[59:40] uh vibrations. So sound sound
[59:46] but we we are uh dealing now to the
[59:49] third uh a third thing. So the purpose
[59:52] the exactly purpose of this maybe it can
[59:57] it can be also one more than one purpose
[01:00:01] no more than one scopus of the pyramids
[01:00:06] the pyramids intended to be now we I am
[01:00:09] 100% convinced that the pyramids uh can
[01:00:13] be considered the tip of the iceberg of
[01:00:15] something
[01:00:17] uh con uh of something very uh huge BJ
[01:00:22] that is composed by things that are
[01:00:25] below the earth and the pyramids that
[01:00:28] are up at the surface of the earth.
[01:00:31] >> So what do you think the reason for the
[01:00:34] design of the pyramid in that specific
[01:00:36] geometric shape?
[01:00:39] Uh yes. Uh probably because they have to
[01:00:42] resonate with the universe in in uh in
[01:00:47] uh in some uh
[01:00:51] in
[01:00:53] they they have to resonate with the with
[01:00:55] the universe. You know the the universe
[01:00:58] uh the universe uh uh jaw it is uh it is
[01:01:03] not complicated. is simple
[01:01:06] because the universe is constituted by
[01:01:10] things the matter the particles the
[01:01:12] light yes but everything is uh regulated
[01:01:18] by some constants there are the
[01:01:20] constants so the velocity the speed of
[01:01:22] the light c
[01:01:25] uh 3 * 10 to the 8 uh kilometers/s
[01:01:31] then you have so the velocity of the
[01:01:32] light so you have the electric
[01:01:34] constants, the magnetic constants that
[01:01:37] are
[01:01:38] uh that arranges very well the law of
[01:01:42] the universe. So it is important that
[01:01:46] something that has to uh be well related
[01:01:51] to the place that we live to the
[01:01:53] universe has to contain very precisely
[01:01:57] the dimensions of uh recasting the
[01:02:02] constants of the universe
[01:02:05] >> and that's what you think the pyramids
[01:02:06] did?
[01:02:08] >> Personally yes personally yes
[01:02:11] >> how old do you think they are?
[01:02:14] Yes. So yes on the sorry the the Italian
[01:02:17] starts when [laughter]
[01:02:20] I start speaking Italian.
[01:02:21] >> No it's okay. It's okay.
[01:02:24] Erh
[01:02:29] the thing that uh we can say for
[01:02:32] certainly is that the pyramids are older
[01:02:37] than the dates that are written on the
[01:02:40] uh typical history books. So to see
[01:02:45] something that to say something very
[01:02:48] precisely we have to go back in time uh
[01:02:51] into the zapi.
[01:02:53] So more than 36
[01:02:56] thousands years ago something happened
[01:03:00] to the earth. So uh the zapi uh began
[01:03:06] and in a time belonging the zeppy and
[01:03:10] the great flood were built the pyramid
[01:03:13] the pyramids.
[01:03:15] >> So like what I'm sending you something
[01:03:18] Jamie that's very interesting.
[01:03:19] >> Yes. Um, so
[01:03:22] do you have an idea? Do you do you have
[01:03:23] an estimation like what what is your
[01:03:25] personal belief?
[01:03:26] >> Yes.
[01:03:28] We can't say exactly the year.
[01:03:31] >> So Zepti, let's let's explain to people
[01:03:33] what that is since we're I sometimes
[01:03:36] forget. Zepy is the thing that I
[01:03:39] described to Zahi Has and he dismissed
[01:03:42] it. But there's this I've never heard of
[01:03:43] this.
[01:03:45] >> It's [clears throat] an ancient kings
[01:03:46] list.
[01:03:47] >> Yeah. And it's a list of pharaohs that
[01:03:49] goes back past 30,000 years. Yes. And um
[01:03:52] it's very inconvenient for modern
[01:03:55] academics. And so they like to portray
[01:03:57] it as myth.
[01:03:59] >> And then when it gets to the age of
[01:04:02] historically accurate pharaohs that we
[01:04:05] know of, Kufu and Cafrey, then they
[01:04:08] allow those hieroglyphs. Yes.
[01:04:10] >> But when you get all the way back to the
[01:04:12] 30,000 years ago, they like to say that
[01:04:14] that's just mythology.
[01:04:16] >> Yes, it's true.
[01:04:17] But it is a matter of fact that Zep we
[01:04:21] have
[01:04:24] we have also other ancient megalytics
[01:04:27] that are very old recognized very old.
[01:04:29] So we have to deal with that.
[01:04:32] >> Well go back
[01:04:34] is a big problem also
[01:04:35] >> but more than 11,000 years old for sure.
[01:04:37] >> Yeah.
[01:04:38] >> Yeah.
[01:04:39] >> And as we saw
[01:04:40] >> here it is. This is something that um
[01:04:42] [clears throat] um I actually just
[01:04:44] talked to Graham Hancock about. This is
[01:04:46] Stella is a limestone inscription
[01:04:47] discovered in 1858 near the great
[01:04:49] pyramid complex of Giza. And the text
[01:04:51] describes a pharaoh kufu who ruled from
[01:04:54] 2589 to 2566 BC visiting the site and
[01:04:59] ordering restorations to existing
[01:05:02] structures including a temple associated
[01:05:04] with the goddess Isis. The stellar
[01:05:06] refers to Isis as the mistress of the
[01:05:09] pyramid, a title that has raised
[01:05:11] questions about whether parts of the
[01:05:12] Giza plateau were already considered
[01:05:15] sacred before Kufu's reign. And although
[01:05:17] most Egyptologists date the Stella
[01:05:19] itself to the 26th dynasty, more than
[01:05:22] 2,000 years after Kufu, its wording
[01:05:25] continues to draw attention because it
[01:05:27] portrays the pharaoh as a restorer
[01:05:30] rather than the original builder.
[01:05:32] Whether inscription provides older
[01:05:34] tradition or reflects later religious
[01:05:35] interpretation remains debated. But if
[01:05:38] this is accurate, this describes Kufu as
[01:05:42] restoring the pyramid. Yeah.
[01:05:44] >> Now this exists throughout history. Um
[01:05:49] the temple of Tinoitlan
[01:05:52] uh where the Aztecs had when when they
[01:05:54] described it, they described it as the
[01:05:56] place where the gods were born. Yeah.
[01:05:59] >> And they found it. Like people think the
[01:06:01] Aztecs made the pyramids. They did not.
[01:06:03] >> No,
[01:06:04] >> they there was some sort of a previous
[01:06:06] civilization that lived in Mexico prior
[01:06:09] to the people that called themselves the
[01:06:10] Aztecs or what we call the Aztecs and
[01:06:12] they built. So there's a longstanding
[01:06:14] history of people repurposing existing
[01:06:19] structures and claiming them as their
[01:06:20] own. And if this Stella is accurate and
[01:06:23] this was also in Fingerprints of the
[01:06:24] Gods, Graham Hancock's book. Um, so I I
[01:06:28] sent this to Graham and his reaction was
[01:06:30] pretty interesting. What he said
[01:06:32] >> to me was that um there's a strong
[01:06:36] suggestion that the Kufu pyramid might
[01:06:38] have been one of the three subsidiary
[01:06:41] structures alongside the Great Pyramid's
[01:06:42] eastern flank and all that looked like
[01:06:44] damaging e evidence against the orthodox
[01:06:47] chronology of ancient Egypt. It also
[01:06:49] challenged the consensus view that the
[01:06:51] Giza pyramids had been built as tombs
[01:06:54] and only as tombs. Uh however s uh uh
[01:06:58] rather than investigating the statements
[01:07:02] u from the stella the Egypt childiffs ch
[01:07:05] uh they chose to devalue them in his his
[01:07:07] quotes they chose to say h that's just
[01:07:09] inconvenient
[01:07:10] >> but if it's if they are describing it
[01:07:12] that way that that seems like this is a
[01:07:17] longstanding tradition of people finding
[01:07:20] things that exist. the earth's clearly
[01:07:24] eg ancient Egypt itself, dynastic Egypt
[01:07:26] is a very complex society, very complex
[01:07:29] and very advanced society, even if they
[01:07:32] didn't build that stuff. But it seems
[01:07:34] like they're saying the restore.
[01:07:36] >> Yes. Yes. I I agree with you, Joe. Um
[01:07:41] I tell you uh there are um some facts
[01:07:45] that we have to observe because I am
[01:07:47] used to observe
[01:07:50] before I I have I I say something I have
[01:07:53] to observe.
[01:07:55] So I am not um how you say an expert of
[01:08:00] pyramids because I am an engineer. I
[01:08:02] work on satellites. I am a space
[01:08:05] engineer. I'm I'm not a
[01:08:08] an Egyptologist
[01:08:10] like that, but I can observe
[01:08:15] in inside the pyramids
[01:08:19] they found a lot of salt
[01:08:25] that were uh attached on the walls. So
[01:08:29] they find the salt. Why there is why
[01:08:32] there was salt there?
[01:08:34] First, second,
[01:08:37] the shafts that we are dealing now, if
[01:08:40] we want to clean the shafts, why there
[01:08:43] is debris? Why they are tapped?
[01:08:48] No. So,
[01:08:51] if the great flood is a an historical uh
[01:08:56] parameter, recognize it. So let's say uh
[01:09:01] 11 11,000 12,000 years ago let's say
[01:09:04] something like that I don't remember
[01:09:05] precisely the zeppi which is not
[01:09:08] recognized is 36,000 in the past so
[01:09:13] between the zepi and the great flood
[01:09:17] we can locate the pyramids and the
[01:09:20] sphinx.
[01:09:22] Wow. So the great flood we're looking at
[01:09:26] 11,000 plus years ago. Zepte you're
[01:09:28] looking at 30,000 plus years ago.
[01:09:31] >> Yes, we can say I'm an engineer. I am I
[01:09:35] I put myself in the center between 30
[01:09:38] 36,000 and 11,000. See if you can find
[01:09:42] some images of salt in the in the great
[01:09:45] pyramids because it it is quite
[01:09:47] fascinating and if there was some sort
[01:09:50] of a massive rise of sea and massive
[01:09:54] flooding which is depicted in every
[01:09:57] single ancient religion. Yes.
[01:09:59] >> From epic of Gilgamesh to the Hopi talk
[01:10:02] about it. I mean it's like almost all
[01:10:05] cultures have a story. Obviously Noah
[01:10:06] and the ark and the flood in the Bible,
[01:10:09] but this salt
[01:10:12] >> Joe two months ago I went for the first
[01:10:14] time to visit the pyramids and I found
[01:10:17] salt on the wall. There is still salt.
[01:10:22] >> And you think that salt is probably
[01:10:24] because
[01:10:24] >> I taste it is of water of uh the sea.
[01:10:27] >> Wow.
[01:10:28] >> Yes. I forgot to to to to bring it to
[01:10:32] you. Not just that, but there's so much
[01:10:34] salt that there's still salt there
[01:10:37] 11,000 years later,
[01:10:39] >> which is really extraordinary.
[01:10:41] >> And so you think that that salt is
[01:10:43] because the entire area was flooded. And
[01:10:45] that's the reason why the shafts were
[01:10:46] flooded and filled with debris. Yes.
[01:10:48] >> Right. Topped off with debris cuz
[01:10:51] everything just flooded into there. And
[01:10:53] then when the sea receded,
[01:10:55] >> you're so many years later, you're left
[01:10:57] with salt everywhere.
[01:10:58] >> Yeah. And that's why uh the reason that
[01:11:01] uh I don't want that people goes to work
[01:11:04] inside the shaft because are dangerous
[01:11:06] can collapse the the the
[01:11:10] debris can collapse because you can have
[01:11:12] bubble of of of air and so it's
[01:11:15] dangerous
[01:11:16] >> right right
[01:11:16] >> robots has to go
[01:11:18] >> right well it makes more sense robots
[01:11:20] are safer and it's also like you
[01:11:22] >> so everything is connected the great
[01:11:23] flood the zeppy and the pyramids
[01:11:26] >> wow if that turns out convinced with
[01:11:29] that
[01:11:30] >> I I am convinced
[01:11:32] >> that maybe 18 I I go in the center 18
[01:11:36] 18,000 or something like that. 20
[01:11:39] between 18,000 and 20,000.
[01:11:41] >> Well, what's crazy is I mean that pushes
[01:11:43] back that ancient civilization by 14,000
[01:11:46] years.
[01:11:46] >> Yeah.
[01:11:47] >> Which is at least 14,000 years. I mean
[01:11:50] John Anthony West thought maybe 30,000
[01:11:52] plus years to the construction of the
[01:11:54] Sphinx. That's what he thought. And when
[01:11:56] Robert Shock from Boston University, the
[01:11:58] geologist that started doing work on the
[01:12:01] the the pyramid and then excuse me, the
[01:12:04] um temple of the Sphinx.
[01:12:05] >> The Sphinx. Yes.
[01:12:06] >> Yeah. And the water erosion. He's like,
[01:12:07] "This is
[01:12:08] >> it's vertical."
[01:12:09] >> Yes. It's vertical fissures that come
[01:12:11] from thousands of years of rainfall. And
[01:12:13] the last time there was like significant
[01:12:15] rainfall in the Nile Valley like that
[01:12:16] was 9,000 years ago.
[01:12:18] >> Yeah.
[01:12:18] >> So you're dealing with thousands of
[01:12:20] years before that of rain to achieve
[01:12:23] that kind of erosion. Yes, it is
[01:12:25] necessary now when that's why this
[01:12:29] research and this activity that hope we
[01:12:32] will do it is very important.
[01:12:35] >> Yeah, because this it is able to rewrite
[01:12:38] everything it mean rewrite everything.
[01:12:41] Imagine if you could get something from
[01:12:43] down in those shafts in those corridors
[01:12:47] something that you could date.
[01:12:50] >> Yeah.
[01:12:50] >> And you get a date back of 26,000 BC.
[01:12:53] you go what
[01:12:55] you know I mean this is it's not outside
[01:12:58] of the realm of possibility that's
[01:12:59] what's so crazy about this it just
[01:13:01] really does seem like we are getting
[01:13:03] more and more evidence that things are
[01:13:07] far older than conventional wisdom than
[01:13:11] conventional the conventional narrative
[01:13:13] that's taught in schools
[01:13:15] >> yes I agree
[01:13:17] I agree because uh as I told you before
[01:13:21] this is time this is the time to to see
[01:13:25] effective what we which is the exact
[01:13:28] date of construction who made them and
[01:13:31] how they made them.
[01:13:33] >> But how could we figure out how they
[01:13:34] made it? That's the crazy thing, right?
[01:13:37] Because we don't even understand the
[01:13:38] technology they used to cut them.
[01:13:40] >> Yeah.
[01:13:41] >> We don't know what they had. And that's
[01:13:43] the other thing. If you're dealing with
[01:13:44] something that's 20,000 plus years old,
[01:13:47] 15,000 years old, what's going to be
[01:13:49] left? All the metal's gone. Everything
[01:13:52] is eroded. The earth is reclaimed. Most
[01:13:54] things really the thing that you have
[01:13:56] left is stone which is pretty crazy.
[01:14:00] >> Yeah. And uh if we see uh the the rooms
[01:14:04] all the structures that are currently
[01:14:06] inside let's say the the chaops pyramid
[01:14:09] which I I like it a lot. The grand
[01:14:11] gallery is very nice fascinating.
[01:14:14] They have a precision incredible
[01:14:16] precision. All those big huge stones
[01:14:20] that com that is composing the grand
[01:14:23] gallery is very exciting. I like it a
[01:14:25] lot.
[01:14:27] >> Did you have uh any sort of fascination
[01:14:31] about the pyramids before this or
[01:14:34] >> Joe? I remember when I was young, very
[01:14:37] young, I used to
[01:14:40] uh I had um uh it
[01:14:44] uh how you say, I had um a a personal
[01:14:48] computer, very old one, and I was always
[01:14:51] playing always on um on something that
[01:14:55] uh
[01:14:57] and there was the pyramids. They were
[01:14:59] always the pyramids. And there in that
[01:15:03] meantime I I realized that I liked the
[01:15:07] pyramids and so I I was very young.
[01:15:10] >> So the personal beauty just researching
[01:15:12] the pyramids is that what it was like
[01:15:14] what do you say just looking at pictures
[01:15:15] and images?
[01:15:16] >> Yes. Yes. On the pyramids.
[01:15:18] >> So you always were fascinated by but did
[01:15:19] you have an understanding or even uh any
[01:15:22] questions about the timeline of
[01:15:24] civilization before this?
[01:15:25] >> No. Never.
[01:15:26] >> So it only happened within the last few
[01:15:28] years.
[01:15:28] >> Yes. Yes. Erh I began uh I began uh
[01:15:34] working uh so uh being interested on
[01:15:36] pyramids uh starting from 2018.
[01:15:40] >> So it was right after you started
[01:15:42] >> doing this research. Yes.
[01:15:44] >> And you started saying okay what is
[01:15:45] this?
[01:15:46] >> Yeah. And so when you start to to
[01:15:49] research on something that that is uh
[01:15:55] our history, our past, our origins
[01:15:58] because we our origins are there. So we
[01:16:01] have to fetch we have to find what there
[01:16:04] is there because it is important that uh
[01:16:08] we uh it is important to research our
[01:16:12] origin because in this meantime humanity
[01:16:16] does not know we don't know who we are.
[01:16:20] We don't know our origins. We don't know
[01:16:23] anything of of who we are. And the most
[01:16:27] of the answers can be found in the um
[01:16:31] studying the pyramids.
[01:16:33] >> Well, it certainly seems to be the
[01:16:35] greatest accomplishment that ancient
[01:16:37] humans had ever created.
[01:16:38] >> Yes.
[01:16:39] >> And if these humans were far more
[01:16:42] ancient than we currently believe, that
[01:16:44] is really really interesting.
[01:16:47] >> Yeah. And uh it is for me very it it is
[01:16:51] something that I have it always in my
[01:16:53] mind
[01:16:54] only to know how they did how they cut
[01:16:57] the stones how they have transported the
[01:17:00] stones and how I don't know how how how
[01:17:03] everything how how like what gave them
[01:17:06] the idea like were there any
[01:17:08] >> previous pyramids cuz it's weird because
[01:17:10] the older you go the more complex the
[01:17:13] structures are
[01:17:14] >> and the newer ones are kind of shitty.
[01:17:17] Yes.
[01:17:17] >> Yeah.
[01:17:19] >> So, okay. So, we went from that we
[01:17:21] showed this antenna and it goes into the
[01:17:24] supposed sarcophagus and these
[01:17:26] vibrations. What other things do you
[01:17:27] show in your presentation that are
[01:17:29] interesting? Uh I um I showed
[01:17:33] principally all the structures that are
[01:17:35] uh that are uh under the the Cafra
[01:17:38] pyramid and also under each pyramids.
[01:17:40] And uh also I described the uh method uh
[01:17:46] uh on how going
[01:17:50] below without drilling anything. And so
[01:17:54] I uh showed them I showed them that
[01:17:57] there are the entrances are there on our
[01:18:00] eyes. Everyone can see those uh those
[01:18:04] shafts. And so why we we we are not
[01:18:07] exploring them? Why they are so dirty?
[01:18:10] Why they are so without uh any kind of
[01:18:14] work of renew methods? Yeah.
[01:18:17] >> I don't know why.
[01:18:19] >> Well, it seems like there's limited
[01:18:21] resources first of all. BS. And also it
[01:18:25] seems like Egypt an entire
[01:18:28] >> economy is based on tourism. An immense
[01:18:31] amount of tourism because it's so
[01:18:32] fantastic. There's people from all over
[01:18:34] the world make a pilgrimage.
[01:18:35] >> I I also I also I also find uh a method
[01:18:40] to uh combine so not stopping the the
[01:18:45] tourism. No. So it is possible to
[01:18:47] combine the work and also the tourism.
[01:18:49] So we can delimitate the area inside the
[01:18:52] area we work and outside the area safety
[01:18:56] all the people can visit the py the Jes
[01:18:58] not only that I think it will enhance
[01:19:00] tourism because if this speculation
[01:19:03] proves to be fruitful and you start
[01:19:05] looking under there and you find that
[01:19:06] there there is evidence to all this it's
[01:19:09] just going to make more people want to
[01:19:10] go. Yes, I I agree with you. But you
[01:19:13] imagine, Joe,
[01:19:15] we will find
[01:19:17] the structures that are underneath. No.
[01:19:20] And maybe we can try to build a huge uh
[01:19:24] lift that carry people downstairs in
[01:19:27] safety always. Or maybe not below for a
[01:19:30] lot, but at a certain at a certain
[01:19:33] depth. So they can also travel along the
[01:19:36] horizontal corridors that are present.
[01:19:39] And so they go up from the shafts and
[01:19:42] they they go they they they go up from
[01:19:46] uh to the Cafrey pyramid and they go
[01:19:48] away from so the entrance here and they
[01:19:51] and they go
[01:19:55] intercepting the pyramids.
[01:19:56] >> That would be amazing.
[01:19:57] >> Yeah. I mean it would just be much more
[01:19:59] tourism.
[01:20:00] >> Yes.
[01:20:00] >> Yeah. And also the all eyes would be on
[01:20:03] Egypt. I mean it would probably be a
[01:20:05] huge boost to their economy. It would
[01:20:07] probably be a huge boost to archaeology
[01:20:11] because more young people would get
[01:20:12] fascinated by it, want to study it.
[01:20:14] >> Yeah. And and imagine imagine also this.
[01:20:17] What can we find below
[01:20:21] down there? What can what can we find?
[01:20:24] This is a question that I am asking
[01:20:26] because if we watch the the the the
[01:20:29] slide concerning the shaft that I want
[01:20:32] to that I want to clean, there are
[01:20:34] things inside it. It I am showing that
[01:20:39] that that there are things located
[01:20:41] inside the uh chamber. Look, there is
[01:20:45] something.
[01:20:46] >> What What is that?
[01:20:47] >> What are you seeing when you we're
[01:20:48] talking about the shaft where it goes
[01:20:49] all the way down to the bottom and
[01:20:51] there's a chamber. Is that what you
[01:20:52] mean? That one. Yes.
[01:20:55] >> Right there. So that structure that is
[01:20:57] at the bottom.
[01:20:58] >> What's that? I don't know. Was that
[01:21:00] >> right?
[01:21:02] >> It's very huge.
[01:21:04] >> Very huge. And it's at the bottom of the
[01:21:06] shaft.
[01:21:08] >> Yeah.
[01:21:08] >> Look the horizontal corridors.
[01:21:10] >> Mhm.
[01:21:12] And so there's more horizontal cor
[01:21:15] corridors during the when you traverse
[01:21:18] down into the shaft. Then you there's
[01:21:20] you intercept
[01:21:21] >> right other corridors. And how large are
[01:21:24] those corridors?
[01:21:25] >> By about 3 m tall.
[01:21:28] >> So there's three So there's these 3 m
[01:21:30] tall shafts
[01:21:32] >> that go to the side. These corridors
[01:21:34] that go to the side.
[01:21:35] >> Yes.
[01:21:36] >> Along the way and then also down at the
[01:21:38] very bottom.
[01:21:39] >> Yes.
[01:21:41] >> And you're convinced of this. This is
[01:21:43] all data, right?
[01:21:45] Um,
[01:21:47] >> and no one has ever sent a camera down
[01:21:49] there or anything.
[01:21:50] >> Those are human man-made structure like
[01:21:53] uh a ring on another ring.
[01:21:56] >> Mhm.
[01:21:57] >> Look, it is it is very clear, right? If
[01:22:00] you observe the structure, those are man
[01:22:02] man-made and they go deep, very deep.
[01:22:04] And you can see the rubbish that is uh
[01:22:06] on the bottom.
[01:22:07] >> All the debris.
[01:22:08] >> The debris.
[01:22:08] >> And that debris you think was a lot of
[01:22:10] it because of the flood. I am 100% sure
[01:22:14] of this. Yeah. So the pyramids or the
[01:22:18] Giza plateau it seems to stop the
[01:22:22] functionality the the
[01:22:25] working. We don't know which kind of
[01:22:27] work
[01:22:29] uh were used to do but stopped because
[01:22:33] of the great flood. So we can go back in
[01:22:36] time in uh 12,000 years ago. And when
[01:22:40] people's the people that don't know if
[01:22:42] you're hearing this like what great
[01:22:43] flood that's just not that's just myth.
[01:22:45] There's a thing called the younger dus
[01:22:47] impact theory and the younger dry impact
[01:22:49] theory group that's been studying this
[01:22:51] they now know that there was impacts to
[01:22:54] the earth that are allowed around the
[01:22:57] 11,800
[01:22:59] year mark and then I believe I believe
[01:23:01] again in the 10,000year range. Uh Randle
[01:23:04] Carlson is probably the best guy to talk
[01:23:05] to about that, but that they find high
[01:23:09] levels of aridium, which is very common
[01:23:11] in space and very rare on Earth, but
[01:23:13] there's a layer of it. They also find
[01:23:16] these nano diamonds uh that they also
[01:23:19] discovered during the first Trinity
[01:23:21] explosion when they detonated the atomic
[01:23:22] bomb. They find these microscopic glass
[01:23:25] particles that are created by the
[01:23:27] intense explosion interacting with the
[01:23:29] sand. So what is it called? Trinitite
[01:23:32] trit is that what it's called? What are
[01:23:35] those?
[01:23:35] >> Nuclear glass. What is that called?
[01:23:37] Tritonite. Is that what it's called?
[01:23:39] >> Some uh some something related to
[01:23:42] vitrification.
[01:23:43] >> Yes.
[01:23:43] >> Okay.
[01:23:44] >> So, this exists all over the world. And
[01:23:47] it exists all over the world when they
[01:23:49] do a core sample at the same depth.
[01:23:51] Yeah.
[01:23:51] >> And so this is a very strong scientific
[01:23:54] indicator of evidence that we've been
[01:23:55] hit.
[01:23:56] >> Yes.
[01:23:56] >> Yeah.
[01:23:57] >> But another scientific indicator is the
[01:23:59] debris. Why there is that debris there?
[01:24:00] >> Right? Why so much?
[01:24:02] >> So much,
[01:24:02] >> right? Why so much?
[01:24:03] >> If if we do carrotage drilling of that
[01:24:06] debris inside the shaft, I don't know
[01:24:09] how how how deep we can go. So why there
[01:24:12] is all the all that debris there?
[01:24:14] >> We don't know,
[01:24:15] >> right? But which makes sense if there is
[01:24:17] a great flood that fills the pyramid
[01:24:19] with salt water. Yes.
[01:24:20] >> That it probably washed all that sand
[01:24:23] into that gigantic vertical shaft.
[01:24:25] >> Yeah.
[01:24:26] >> Completely makes sense.
[01:24:27] >> Yeah. And I tell you, Joe, we if we do
[01:24:30] the chemical chemical a chemical
[01:24:33] exploration of that debris, we can find
[01:24:36] also a certain density of salt because
[01:24:40] were mixed in the past by salty water
[01:24:43] and debris and soil also.
[01:24:46] >> Also, you could get dirt from the very
[01:24:48] bottom. Yeah. And get some sort of
[01:24:50] organic material and carbonate that. And
[01:24:53] maybe you can get an understanding of
[01:24:55] like maybe when stuff was washed down to
[01:24:57] the bottom of that shaft.
[01:24:59] >> Very interesting. Yeah. Yes, it's
[01:25:01] possible. Can be possible.
[01:25:02] >> Crazy if they did that and it lines up
[01:25:04] directly with the younger gi impact
[01:25:06] theory. I mean, that would be incredible
[01:25:09] evidence.
[01:25:10] >> Either way, just what it is that we know
[01:25:14] that there's immense shafts. We know
[01:25:16] that they go many, many meters deep into
[01:25:18] the earth. And we know that there's
[01:25:20] these horizontal shafts along the way.
[01:25:22] Hey, these corridors along the way, like
[01:25:24] all of it is just nuts.
[01:25:29] >> We [laughter]
[01:25:30] saw I was looking at the Osiris shaft
[01:25:32] here. Um the shaft.
[01:25:34] >> Mhm.
[01:25:35] >> Okay.
[01:25:35] >> Just near these other ones. Uh when they
[01:25:38] found it, there was water down there.
[01:25:39] They had to get out. And the water is
[01:25:42] not only cold, ice cold. It says it's
[01:25:45] clean enough to be drinking water.
[01:25:47] >> Whoa.
[01:25:47] >> And I don't know that it doesn't It
[01:25:49] sounded like it refills itself. Oh, so
[01:25:51] there's a spring down there. Well, that
[01:25:54] is also the problem with the labyrinth.
[01:25:56] So, the labyrinth that they have where
[01:25:59] there's this enormous atrium and this 40
[01:26:02] m long metallic object that apparently
[01:26:04] is underneath there. And this is through
[01:26:05] ground penetrating radar that they
[01:26:06] discover this. I don't think they know
[01:26:08] what that metal is either. I think it's
[01:26:10] an unknown metal. But they built a dam
[01:26:14] there I believe in the 1960s and to help
[01:26:17] the farmers and unfortunately that
[01:26:19] flooded that whole area. So because they
[01:26:21] changed the direction of the water and
[01:26:23] built this dam the water table rose
[01:26:26] >> and that entire labyrinth is now filled
[01:26:28] with water.
[01:26:30] >> But through ground penetrating radar
[01:26:32] they've been able to get this accurate
[01:26:33] assessment of the dimensions of it. And
[01:26:35] then they go back to the descriptions of
[01:26:36] Herodotus who described it. See if you
[01:26:39] can pull that up. uh Herodotus described
[01:26:42] it as greater than the Giza plateau
[01:26:44] itself. So these labyrinths, these
[01:26:47] corridors, these atriums, these huge
[01:26:49] passageways underneath the the Great
[01:26:52] Pyramid area more complex and more
[01:26:56] spectacular than the pyramids
[01:26:57] themselves.
[01:26:58] >> Yes.
[01:26:59] >> My god.
[01:27:00] >> My god. Like what was this civilization?
[01:27:03] These people living in Africa however
[01:27:06] long ago were so much more advanced than
[01:27:09] perhaps anybody that's ever existed
[01:27:11] including us just in a different way.
[01:27:14] Including us just in a different way. H
[01:27:17] just to remark the fact Joe that there
[01:27:19] is difference between the water table
[01:27:22] which which of course is composed by
[01:27:24] drinkable water and the water that they
[01:27:27] found uh compounding the uh the Osiris
[01:27:31] shaft and the water that transported all
[01:27:35] the debris but that water was uh uh uh
[01:27:39] salty water because of the great flood.
[01:27:42] So it was uh water um of the sea
[01:27:45] composing the sea
[01:27:47] >> which makes sense when you see the salt
[01:27:48] that's all over the pyramids. This is
[01:27:50] Herodotus's quote. I've seen it myself
[01:27:52] and indeed words cannot describe it.
[01:27:54] Though the pyramids beg description and
[01:27:57] each one of them is a match for many
[01:27:59] great monuments built by Greeks, this
[01:28:01] maze surpasses even the pyramids.
[01:28:05] That is crazy. That's crazy that he said
[01:28:09] that. And if have you ever seen any of
[01:28:11] the artistic renditions of what it looks
[01:28:13] like?
[01:28:13] >> Uh, no. But
[01:28:14] >> see if you can find some of that because
[01:28:16] we did it. If anybody's interested in
[01:28:18] this, I can't recommend enough.
[01:28:20] Uncharted X. It's Ben Van Kirkwick.
[01:28:23] >> This is what apparently is underneath
[01:28:25] this area,
[01:28:27] which is just [ __ ] staggering.
[01:28:30] >> Wow. How nice.
[01:28:31] >> This is all underground. And so I think
[01:28:33] we the next uh the next um uh site that
[01:28:38] we can study can be this.
[01:28:40] >> Yeah.
[01:28:41] >> Yeah. And a
[01:28:42] >> and if you could find out what that 40 m
[01:28:45] long metallic object is, that's that's
[01:28:47] when things get weird. That's when
[01:28:49] things get real weird cuz you find a
[01:28:51] spaceship down there.
[01:28:54] [laughter]
[01:28:56] Then things get really fun. [gasps]
[01:28:58] I mean, we're Egyptian space travelers.
[01:29:00] [laughter]
[01:29:01] Why not? I mean, if they could build
[01:29:03] that, why not space? Who knows what they
[01:29:05] could do? They're lying in a gigantic
[01:29:08] stone box tripping balls. They have this
[01:29:11] huge pyramid. This the structures go how
[01:29:15] long? A kilometer. The entire thing into
[01:29:17] the earth. [laughter]
[01:29:18] >> 1.2
[01:29:19] >> 1.2 kilometers into the earth. From the
[01:29:21] base of the pyramid down 1.2 km.
[01:29:25] >> Wow.
[01:29:26] >> Wow.
[01:29:26] >> Wow. This has changed. I mean, from 2018
[01:29:30] to now, from you researching this and
[01:29:33] does this change your entire perspective
[01:29:36] of human history and and just human
[01:29:38] beings in general?
[01:29:41] >> In my personal opinion, yes. Because uh
[01:29:45] before this was a problem accepting how
[01:29:48] the pyramids were made, all those
[01:29:51] stones. But if we can if we if we are
[01:29:55] adding also the structures that are
[01:29:57] underneath I don't know what happens
[01:30:00] >> more impossible than before
[01:30:02] >> right
[01:30:04] more impossible than I mean if you'd
[01:30:07] imagine with modern technology trying to
[01:30:10] recreate something like that you're
[01:30:11] talking about an immense project that
[01:30:12] would cost
[01:30:13] >> hundreds of billions of dollars
[01:30:15] >> if not more
[01:30:17] >> and the engineering involved in it
[01:30:20] you're an engineer the engineering
[01:30:21] involved olved in doing something like
[01:30:22] that like
[01:30:24] >> how
[01:30:25] >> how they can cut the granite so
[01:30:27] precisely is impossible is impossible
[01:30:29] also today is impossible.
[01:30:32] >> So they had some sort of a technology
[01:30:34] that is far more advanced than we have.
[01:30:36] They just went in a different direction.
[01:30:39] We went in the direction of internal
[01:30:40] combustion engines and electronics
[01:30:43] >> and they probably went in some
[01:30:44] completely different direction.
[01:30:46] >> Yeah. Yes. Because uh the modern science
[01:30:50] started from a point and then as you you
[01:30:54] are you are saying right we we followed
[01:30:57] the a direction which is the direction
[01:31:00] of light because most of the our
[01:31:04] inventions our yes internal combustion
[01:31:08] uh engines and uh uh and other stuff but
[01:31:13] principally we use light because we can
[01:31:16] see
[01:31:16] We can see it. We can see light. Okay,
[01:31:18] we use light. But
[01:31:21] other other existence, other people that
[01:31:25] that was uh uh living in the past maybe
[01:31:30] use other things that we don't know.
[01:31:32] >> Maybe sound.
[01:31:33] >> Maybe sound.
[01:31:34] >> Well, it seems like it if this is
[01:31:36] generating sound and vibration, if your
[01:31:38] speculation is correct,
[01:31:40] >> yes,
[01:31:40] >> that they were obsessed with vibration
[01:31:42] and sound. Yes, they were obsessed in
[01:31:46] vibrations and sound because all the
[01:31:50] structures that I that I watched inside
[01:31:53] the inside the pyramids,
[01:31:56] they are like something that generates
[01:31:59] sound or they maintain
[01:32:02] clean the sound.
[01:32:04] >> It resonates sound echoes. It has a very
[01:32:07] specific echo to it.
[01:32:08] >> The zed like that is is magnificent. The
[01:32:12] Zet is a is perfect. It's a perfect
[01:32:15] device made by stones. It's very nice.
[01:32:21] And just how how and where did they get
[01:32:25] the understanding to construct something
[01:32:27] like this? And this this is what screws
[01:32:31] up our idea of a linear timeline of
[01:32:34] human progression in civilization to go
[01:32:37] from caveman to modern 2026 human being.
[01:32:41] We like to think that it was just, oh,
[01:32:43] we figured this out, then we figured the
[01:32:44] wheel out, then it was agriculture. Now
[01:32:46] here we are today with cars,
[01:32:48] >> but more likely there was some peaks and
[01:32:51] valleys. We rose up to a very high level
[01:32:54] probably during Egypt and it was
[01:32:55] shattered down and it took probably a
[01:32:57] long time before civilization rebuilt
[01:33:00] itself again.
[01:33:00] >> Yes, Joe. And then we are we are
[01:33:03] speaking about modern living but modern
[01:33:06] living has to be sustainable,
[01:33:09] >> right? I don't think that our modern
[01:33:11] living is so sustainable.
[01:33:13] >> No,
[01:33:14] >> no.
[01:33:15] >> I mean, even our population isn't
[01:33:17] sustainable.
[01:33:18] >> We're in population collapse in many
[01:33:21] countries in the world, South Korea,
[01:33:23] Japan, even there's arguments about
[01:33:25] America itself
[01:33:26] >> that we're in population collapse.
[01:33:28] >> Yeah.
[01:33:28] >> And we're also chaotic. We we also have
[01:33:33] a very bizarre distribution of
[01:33:34] information that's filled with nonsense
[01:33:36] and lies and propaganda.
[01:33:38] >> Yes. lies and propaganda. Yes,
[01:33:39] >> we have the government that's constantly
[01:33:41] trying to censor people and control
[01:33:42] speech and limit your ability to express
[01:33:45] yourself and complain about things so
[01:33:46] they can continue to dominate resources.
[01:33:48] You have a we have a weird society
[01:33:51] today, but it's also a society because
[01:33:53] of this access to information where you
[01:33:56] can discuss and explore things in a way
[01:33:58] that has never happened before. And that
[01:34:02] is that's the most exciting thing about
[01:34:04] our time. Yeah. Because there's so much
[01:34:06] room for discussion. I I want to if if I
[01:34:10] can um to explain you something that is
[01:34:14] maybe related to philosophy or or to
[01:34:17] other things.
[01:34:19] Erh,
[01:34:21] we have an example of how uh um
[01:34:27] modern humans are a bit strange because
[01:34:30] we we are not uh made it it is like that
[01:34:34] we are not made to research uh to or to
[01:34:38] find the uh harmonics the harmonics in
[01:34:44] our living.
[01:34:46] And so uh I just want to make you an
[01:34:49] example the uh do you remember in the
[01:34:53] 80s when the uh cold fusion rises?
[01:34:57] >> Yeah.
[01:34:57] >> So
[01:34:58] >> maybe we we we are speaking about
[01:35:00] fleshman and pawns that made for the
[01:35:03] first time they they they had a glass of
[01:35:06] water and inside they made a a mini
[01:35:09] nuclear reaction reactor inside. They
[01:35:12] had some results that were very very
[01:35:14] poor results. I know but was a base to
[01:35:19] build something stronger.
[01:35:21] They put away that that experiment. So
[01:35:24] no they debunk that experiment. It was
[01:35:28] not good. It is not good because it is
[01:35:30] not possible.
[01:35:32] And the example of the cold fusion is
[01:35:36] how we are because cold fusion was
[01:35:41] devoted to find the energy using
[01:35:44] resonance.
[01:35:46] Resonance why how it works called
[01:35:50] fusion. We have two atoms of uh um of
[01:35:55] hydrogen. we start
[01:35:58] erh um
[01:36:01] uh we start putting together these two
[01:36:04] atoms but while we put together these
[01:36:07] two atoms the there are the atomic
[01:36:09] forces that tends to no I don't want to
[01:36:11] stay with the other atom so but then
[01:36:14] there is a limit that the atoms fuse
[01:36:17] together and it transform it is they are
[01:36:21] transformed in helium plus energy
[01:36:24] because of of mass the mass difference
[01:36:27] and so you can do energy by fusion. This
[01:36:30] is fusion not cold fusion. So you can
[01:36:33] have a fusion by forcing together the
[01:36:38] atoms that they don't want to stay
[01:36:40] together. So the force force together
[01:36:45] and this that is hot yes that that is
[01:36:48] hot fusion. Cold fusion you convince the
[01:36:52] two atoms to stay together naturally.
[01:36:56] Okay. So today
[01:37:00] uh
[01:37:00] >> what method do they use to convince
[01:37:01] these atoms to stay together naturally?
[01:37:03] >> Yes. You you have to find a third
[01:37:07] material that convince the two atom to
[01:37:10] stay together. Like you say I have a
[01:37:13] couple you have a couple a girl and a
[01:37:15] man they don't they don't want to talk
[01:37:18] one to each other. If you put a a third
[01:37:21] person
[01:37:23] uh between them at the center of them
[01:37:26] and she and maybe a third person
[01:37:30] convince the man and the girl to speak
[01:37:32] together and they will speak together.
[01:37:35] Okay. So the third material which is
[01:37:38] paladium they use paladium. Paladium has
[01:37:42] the a physical property to make speak
[01:37:46] together the two atoms and without force
[01:37:50] them they naturally transform into
[01:37:53] helium and they and they generate energy
[01:37:57] because the helium has a mass lower than
[01:38:00] the two atoms with mass difference you
[01:38:03] will
[01:38:04] >> you will generate energy
[01:38:06] >> and doing this at scale is really the
[01:38:08] holy grail of modern science And this
[01:38:10] has always been the quest.
[01:38:11] >> Yes. So we have two paradigma.
[01:38:14] Convincing something or obtaining the
[01:38:18] results using the force. And so the the
[01:38:21] street that you were speaking before
[01:38:25] science
[01:38:27] had this street. We want to have things
[01:38:32] by using force not convincing.
[01:38:36] >> Right. And that's where we are. That's
[01:38:38] nuclear power. Yes.
[01:38:39] >> Nuclear energy.
[01:38:42] >> Yes. Because h
[01:38:45] I tell you today
[01:38:48] also hot
[01:38:50] nuclear fusion does not exist
[01:38:53] because it is very difficult to to make
[01:38:57] a a huge reactor that use the tokamax or
[01:39:02] something related to laser that uses
[01:39:05] that that forces together the atoms to
[01:39:08] it's something not natural
[01:39:10] >> right
[01:39:10] >> cold fusion was natural And so the
[01:39:12] pyramids are something related to
[01:39:14] vibrations, to harmonic resonance, to
[01:39:17] something like that that
[01:39:20] >> it is the the right creation. That was
[01:39:23] the past.
[01:39:24] >> They were the right creation. They they
[01:39:26] were they were doing it the correct way.
[01:39:28] Yes. Instead of doing it against nature,
[01:39:30] they were doing it in harmony with
[01:39:31] nature.
[01:39:31] >> In harmony with the nature and in the
[01:39:33] universe. And that's why all the
[01:39:35] dimensions are related to the constants
[01:39:38] of the universe. The universe is like a
[01:39:40] book that is open. We have to just
[01:39:42] observe it. It is not difficult. It's
[01:39:45] very simple to read the universe.
[01:39:48] >> Okay. Show me more. Show me more of this
[01:39:50] uh presentation.
[01:39:52] >> What else do you have in here? When you
[01:39:54] go from from the the cap with the sound
[01:39:58] resonating into the supposed
[01:40:00] sarcophagus. Yes. What else?
[01:40:02] >> Yes, we can go to that slide.
[01:40:09] This stuff is awesome. This is my
[01:40:10] favorite subject by far out of all
[01:40:13] subjects. Ancient history and
[01:40:15] particularly ancient Egypt is my
[01:40:16] favorite subject.
[01:40:17] >> Okay, we stopped to speak.
[01:40:19] >> This is so undeniably interesting. H if
[01:40:22] we can go a slide up. Uh here look here
[01:40:27] we are dealing with something that uh uh
[01:40:29] happened uh in 202022
[01:40:33] after this uh after our our paper was
[01:40:37] published because these results are on
[01:40:39] our first paper. Look Joe
[01:40:43] that slide there that that lower. Yes.
[01:40:46] >> Yes.
[01:40:48] You depict chambers that were previously
[01:40:51] not known.
[01:40:52] >> Yeah. Right.
[01:40:53] >> That's the big void.
[01:40:54] >> Right. The big void.
[01:40:55] >> That's the big void. And then there is
[01:40:57] the chevron
[01:41:00] connecting with the corridor,
[01:41:03] the base of the grand gallery. That
[01:41:07] corridor was discovered six months later
[01:41:11] by Zakyawas.
[01:41:13] >> Wow.
[01:41:14] They made the paper but uh they I I
[01:41:19] depicted six months
[01:41:21] before.
[01:41:22] >> So you let them know it was there and
[01:41:23] then
[01:41:24] >> that's the corridor. That's the
[01:41:25] corridor.
[01:41:25] >> You found it. [laughter]
[01:41:28] >> That's the corridor. Yeah.
[01:41:29] >> I don't want to say that I found it, but
[01:41:32] >> Well, you found it. I'll say it. You
[01:41:34] found it.
[01:41:35] >> So your technology
[01:41:38] showed something that turned out to be
[01:41:40] true and is now established.
[01:41:42] >> Yes. And again, how crazy is it? They're
[01:41:45] just finding new chambers in the
[01:41:46] pyramids in the 21st century.
[01:41:50] >> Uh,
[01:41:51] >> pretty spectacular that they're just
[01:41:52] finding this now.
[01:41:55] >> And just yesterday, I was to examinate
[01:41:57] it again there. I don't have it. I don't
[01:42:00] have a slides here. I'm I am sorry. But
[01:42:03] there are the results of the scam
[01:42:06] pyramid project. The scam pyramid visual
[01:42:08] is very good. I it is a they are it is a
[01:42:12] very nice uh project project uh group
[01:42:17] and they discovered the uh the so-called
[01:42:20] um big void
[01:42:23] but uh there is a problem because they
[01:42:26] say the big void can be something
[01:42:28] parallel to the grand gallery so not
[01:42:32] steady but inclined like inclined
[01:42:35] >> and inclined right
[01:42:37] >> examinating results.
[01:42:42] I was observing something.
[01:42:45] Maybe I say maybe I can say that I am
[01:42:48] right of this. Maybe they are they they
[01:42:52] are mis they are confusing an inclined
[01:42:56] new chamber
[01:42:57] by the top of the they are
[01:43:01] distinguishing the top of the grand
[01:43:03] gallery and the bottom of the grand
[01:43:06] gallery like that. I observed the
[01:43:09] results but in my personal opinion
[01:43:13] the big void is not inclined but it is
[01:43:17] located where there is that red blob
[01:43:20] there.
[01:43:21] >> Mhm.
[01:43:21] >> That's the the grand gallery. Yes.
[01:43:23] There. And also up. Yes. That's the
[01:43:26] grand gallery. It is not inclined. Is is
[01:43:29] flat like that. Is how you say is um
[01:43:33] steady not inclined.
[01:43:34] >> Right.
[01:43:35] >> Um
[01:43:36] >> that's the grand. Why do they think it's
[01:43:38] at an incline?
[01:43:39] >> Because we are not seeing we are not my
[01:43:43] technique does not detect is not
[01:43:45] detecting an inclined uh chamber on the
[01:43:50] top of the grand gallery.
[01:43:51] >> Why do they think there's an incline?
[01:43:53] >> Yes, because they found two targets
[01:43:56] parallel. But I am feeling to tell them
[01:44:01] to be careful because maybe they are
[01:44:04] confusing the roof of the Grand Gallery
[01:44:06] and the and the lower part of the Grand
[01:44:10] Gallery.
[01:44:10] >> I see.
[01:44:11] >> Okay. They have to be careful.
[01:44:14] >> Interesting. But it's just also more
[01:44:18] evidence that your techniques are very
[01:44:20] effective and accurate
[01:44:22] because you did desri describe you have
[01:44:25] >> we can see the the the results that uh I
[01:44:30] uh that I um obtained on the granaso. We
[01:44:34] can see the granaso and the laboratory
[01:44:36] of granaso. That is the a perfect um uh
[01:44:42] benchmark that describes the effective
[01:44:45] effectiveness of my technique.
[01:44:47] >> All right. Show me some more. What else
[01:44:48] you got here?
[01:44:51] Show me another slide.
[01:44:55] >> Uh below I think. Ah okay. Okay. We go
[01:44:58] to Gubio. This is a a town where I live.
[01:45:03] I am uh
[01:45:05] >> this is Saxan. Sakahan. Yes, this is
[01:45:07] Sakahaman. And uh here I am showing you
[01:45:11] the next uh work that we uh can do uh
[01:45:16] once the Jiza scanning activity are
[01:45:19] finished it.
[01:45:20] >> So this is in Peru, correct? Yes.
[01:45:23] >> And so you want to scan this as well
[01:45:26] because uh you know we've had quite a
[01:45:27] few people on describe this.
[01:45:29] >> Yes. Look, Joe, the stones are like mash
[01:45:32] marshmallows.
[01:45:33] >> Yes,
[01:45:34] >> they are like marshmallows. How they did
[01:45:36] those those
[01:45:38] >> right
[01:45:39] >> those things there?
[01:45:40] >> Enormous. Some of them hundred tons
[01:45:44] >> carve from stones that who knows how
[01:45:47] they put them into position, but they
[01:45:49] carved them in this very strange way to
[01:45:51] absorb the impact of earthquakes. Right.
[01:45:54] The idea of this technology is that the
[01:45:56] reason why they're like a puzzle piece
[01:45:57] is because it would be much less likely
[01:46:00] to move in an intense earthquake.
[01:46:03] >> Okay.
[01:46:06] Go back
[01:46:08] just a few words on this city that is
[01:46:12] small town that is located in Peruja
[01:46:15] where I live.
[01:46:17] Um uh look um uh the the Italian the
[01:46:22] authority of this of the city of the
[01:46:24] town asked me to perform a scanning
[01:46:28] around that colosum that mini colosum
[01:46:32] that is located in Gubio because
[01:46:34] probably there is a huge Roman city not
[01:46:38] so old but it is a Roman city that
[01:46:41] compounds that arena that is there. M so
[01:46:46] a lost Roman city that's around that
[01:46:49] area.
[01:46:49] >> Yes. Yes.
[01:46:51] And I say hello to the people of Gubio.
[01:46:54] [laughter]
[01:46:55] >> So is this the next thing that you're
[01:46:57] going to do?
[01:46:57] >> Uh
[01:46:58] >> one of the next things.
[01:46:59] >> One of the next.
[01:46:59] >> But Sakai Huan is also Yes.
[01:47:02] >> Yeah.
[01:47:02] >> Ah and there is also
[01:47:05] Carakora also. Very interesting. The the
[01:47:08] slide 51 please.
[01:47:12] Yes. Yes. Carakora. Yes. This this is
[01:47:18] located in Russia and there are
[01:47:22] huge structures inside there.
[01:47:26] And uh
[01:47:27] >> this is in Russia.
[01:47:29] >> Yes. Yes. And nobody knows the the
[01:47:32] purpose of the of those things there.
[01:47:33] Nobody. It's crazy. More than crazy.
[01:47:38] >> And how big are these [clears throat]
[01:47:39] things? Can you keep that up there?
[01:47:40] >> Find other pictures of it so you see
[01:47:42] what it look like. Just keep this up
[01:47:43] just for a couple seconds. I just like
[01:47:44] how how big are we what are we looking
[01:47:46] at here?
[01:47:47] >> Yes, we have 9 + 16 + 7 + 10 plus 36 and
[01:47:53] they go below. So maybe two or 300 m
[01:47:56] below
[01:47:57] >> two or 300 m and there's this immense
[01:48:00] rectangle at the bottom of these
[01:48:01] corridors.
[01:48:02] >> Yeah. And and it goes more more deeply
[01:48:06] and so they nobody knows what there is.
[01:48:09] And if you look at that image, it's
[01:48:11] clearly a man-made structure.
[01:48:13] >> It's man-made. Absolutely. Yes.
[01:48:14] >> I mean, look, there's stones. They're
[01:48:16] they're placed.
[01:48:16] >> Yeah.
[01:48:18] >> That is nuts.
[01:48:20] >> That's crazy.
[01:48:20] >> And they don't they there's no
[01:48:22] historical timeline, no understanding of
[01:48:24] who did it.
[01:48:25] >> No.
[01:48:26] >> Wow.
[01:48:28] So, it's likely that there's structures
[01:48:30] like this that exist that are
[01:48:32] undiscovered probably all over the
[01:48:34] world.
[01:48:34] >> Yeah. Yes. The the nice thing of this is
[01:48:40] is this satellites are global globally.
[01:48:45] So one satellite flies from let's say
[01:48:49] south pole north pole south south pole
[01:48:53] like that
[01:48:54] >> right
[01:48:54] >> because of the angular momentum
[01:48:56] conservation
[01:48:58] the let's say the wheel of the orbit
[01:49:03] remains steady and the earth rotates
[01:49:07] inside this circle the circle remains
[01:49:10] steady like that. So at least once a
[01:49:14] day, one satellite can observe
[01:49:18] potentially any part of the globe in one
[01:49:21] day.
[01:49:21] >> M
[01:49:22] >> so you can program snapshots where you
[01:49:26] want in all the earth in one day.
[01:49:29] >> And how [clears throat] many satellites
[01:49:31] are up there? Ah there are uh uh the
[01:49:33] satellites that uh contains on board of
[01:49:36] them
[01:49:38] a payload
[01:49:40] uh composed by a synthetic version
[01:49:42] rather there are a lot there are
[01:49:45] different satellites companies that uh
[01:49:48] provides these services.
[01:49:51] So uh today it is possible to decide to
[01:49:55] observe something. Okay. I call the
[01:49:58] company and they put case for me an
[01:50:00] image.
[01:50:01] >> And this structure in Russia, how was
[01:50:04] this initially discovered? Was it
[01:50:06] discovered by explorers?
[01:50:07] >> Manually by explorers
[01:50:08] >> manually. Yes. And how did they get the
[01:50:10] dimensions of it? Are people able to go
[01:50:12] all the way down into it?
[01:50:13] >> That man because there is only a a a man
[01:50:17] that went down because it's very narrow.
[01:50:20] But once you go down be everything
[01:50:22] becomes very huge and large. Measure it
[01:50:25] manually all those depths. But more
[01:50:29] there than then you can't go because
[01:50:31] maybe it's too narrow. I don't know.
[01:50:34] He's okay.
[01:50:35] >> Did you find any images of that Jamie
[01:50:37] online?
[01:50:38] >> I'm looking into something.
[01:50:40] I'm stuck in a hole. Hold on.
[01:50:43] >> Someone was sort of saying it's in a
[01:50:44] different spot and now I try to track it
[01:50:46] down. These are also weirdly only
[01:50:48] getting talked about over the last
[01:50:49] month. So I am digging down a different
[01:50:52] path.
[01:50:52] >> When did they discover this?
[01:50:54] >> This I don't remember.
[01:50:56] >> 2011.
[01:50:57] >> 2011.
[01:50:58] >> That's crazy.
[01:50:59] >> The fact that they don't know who made
[01:51:01] it or why,
[01:51:02] >> but it is clearly man-made. You're
[01:51:05] seeing these stones perfectly cut
[01:51:07] stacked on top of each other.
[01:51:08] >> Yes. And you have the same uh
[01:51:12] >> Oh, okay. It says it's currently known
[01:51:14] from fringe social media and YouTube
[01:51:16] style sources rather than former
[01:51:17] archaeological publications because it
[01:51:19] hasn't been explored. Correct.
[01:51:21] >> Yeah. It's 15 years ago though.
[01:51:22] >> Yeah. Pretty pretty nuts. But I mean,
[01:51:24] who's doing that kind of work in Russia,
[01:51:26] especially now? Deep underground shaft
[01:51:29] lined with large parallel megalithic
[01:51:31] stone blocks with walls described as
[01:51:33] straight and polished suggest suggest
[01:51:36] artificial construction rather than a
[01:51:38] natural cave or fissure. And this is all
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[01:51:53] North Cauus or Cauus Mountains uh with
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[01:51:58] evidence of unknown or very ancient
[01:51:59] civilization with advanced stonework
[01:52:01] techniques.
[01:52:03] Crazy that they don't know who made
[01:52:05] this. There's no accessible
[01:52:07] peer-reviewed archaeological articles,
[01:52:09] official Russian heritage records, or
[01:52:11] academic monographs that describe the
[01:52:13] site formally named the Carahora. Is am
[01:52:17] I saying that right? Carora
[01:52:19] >> Kahora shaft.
[01:52:20] >> Caror shaft, which strongly suggests the
[01:52:22] claim has not been vetted by mainstream
[01:52:24] archaeology, but you know, look, it
[01:52:26] exists.
[01:52:27] >> Whether it's vetted or not, it doesn't
[01:52:28] matter like what who made it? What is
[01:52:31] it?
[01:52:32] >> Nuts. That's really crazy. I had no idea
[01:52:36] that that existed. [laughter]
[01:52:38] >> And it just it makes you think like if
[01:52:40] they just found that in 2011 and
[01:52:43] >> manually,
[01:52:43] >> right,
[01:52:44] >> and maybe doing a a wide a wide uh
[01:52:48] research by satellites, maybe starting
[01:52:50] from there or other sites
[01:52:54] between that that Kahora, maybe we will
[01:52:56] find other things,
[01:52:57] >> right? It could be a part of an enormous
[01:52:59] complex. I mean, who knows? But just the
[01:53:01] fact that that exists and that a human
[01:53:04] made that or humans made that, that's
[01:53:06] crazy.
[01:53:08] The whole thing is crazy because it
[01:53:10] really like anybody that boy the modern
[01:53:12] archaeologists and people that are the
[01:53:14] gatekeepers of archaeological
[01:53:15] information are fighting an uphill
[01:53:17] battle because like you can't at at a
[01:53:20] certain point in time you have to give
[01:53:21] up and go I don't know. And that's an I
[01:53:23] don't know moment like
[01:53:24] >> yes this and I don't know.
[01:53:26] >> What the hell is that?
[01:53:27] >> What is that? I don't Show me some more
[01:53:29] images, Jamie, cuz it's really kooky
[01:53:31] >> of the shaft.
[01:53:32] >> Yeah, just that what that looks like.
[01:53:33] >> That's I'm trying to It's I'm digging
[01:53:35] down a hole and it there's a post here
[01:53:37] on
[01:53:38] >> Yes, there are.
[01:53:39] >> This is a like they're misinterpreting
[01:53:41] something.
[01:53:42] >> This is Jay Anderson who's been on the
[01:53:44] podcast recently.
[01:53:45] >> This is the tweet I found. Uh how about
[01:53:46] some fat chunk car um in the kab
[01:53:51] cabardino bulria republic north caucus
[01:53:55] of the Russian Federation is a different
[01:53:57] place from carakoto
[01:53:59] so carora and carako so there's more
[01:54:02] than one place
[01:54:03] >> I'm I'm trying to I haven't I'm just
[01:54:05] googling stuff it's it all comes from
[01:54:07] this one video it seems like because
[01:54:08] everyone's pointing to this video and
[01:54:10] this video is compiled of all sorts of
[01:54:12] stuff
[01:54:13] >> it's got 3 million views from 2024
[01:54:15] forest. I can see how it goes when it
[01:54:17] went viral, you know.
[01:54:18] >> Mhm.
[01:54:18] >> But, uh, it starts off with just showing
[01:54:22] that and I don't, you know,
[01:54:23] >> so this is probably the entry to this
[01:54:25] area
[01:54:25] >> maybe. But again, no one knows they
[01:54:27] can't tell you where that is like on a
[01:54:29] map,
[01:54:30] >> right? Got it.
[01:54:31] >> Look how precise they are.
[01:54:33] >> So, I this might be
[01:54:36] >> who knows.
[01:54:36] >> Yeah. Could be real, could be nonsense.
[01:54:38] Well, the the images of that guy
[01:54:39] standing there looking outside of that
[01:54:42] opening that you showed earlier in your
[01:54:44] presentation is just bananas. But
[01:54:47] whatever this is is
[01:54:48] >> that's I don't know where it's from. You
[01:54:50] know, it could be
[01:54:50] >> right. Do they have any video of once
[01:54:52] they got all the way down through? So
[01:54:54] here. Okay, let's keep going. See what
[01:54:57] it looks like.
[01:54:59] >> And I don't even know.
[01:55:02] >> Yeah. So someone else has done narration
[01:55:04] on it. Mhm.
[01:55:06] >> It's coming from a different channel. I
[01:55:08] can see a tag on there. It's coming from
[01:55:09] a different show.
[01:55:10] >> God, look at the right angles, though.
[01:55:12] This is nuts.
[01:55:13] >> Yes.
[01:55:14] >> I mean, it's clearly looks like
[01:55:15] something man-made. [clears throat]
[01:55:18] Look how precise they are.
[01:55:19] >> Yeah, it's crazy.
[01:55:21] >> That's man-made. It's absolutely
[01:55:22] man-made.
[01:55:25] There are also a comparison what with
[01:55:27] the with the dimensions of the
[01:55:29] dimensions.
[01:55:30] >> Wow. What the hell is that?
[01:55:35] That means what the hell is that? It's
[01:55:37] crazy. And they found it in 2011. Yeah.
[01:55:39] >> I mean, imagine how much more of this
[01:55:41] stuff.
[01:55:42] >> I mean, that's one of the things about
[01:55:44] Gob Beckley. They've only observed 5% of
[01:55:46] it.
[01:55:47] >> I mean, 5% of it they've uncovered and
[01:55:49] and through ground penetrating radar,
[01:55:51] they know of multiple sites nearby.
[01:55:53] >> Yes. But ground penetrated radar has a
[01:55:55] problem.
[01:55:56] >> What is the problem? The problem of
[01:55:57] ground penetrating radar is uh the
[01:56:01] penetration depth is few meters enough.
[01:56:05] >> So it's a pro there is a problem of
[01:56:07] penetration depth but
[01:56:10] in that depth you are very precise. So
[01:56:12] you have to take into account that more
[01:56:15] than 15 20 m you below you can't go
[01:56:19] >> right but using that method they have
[01:56:23] found all these structures that exist.
[01:56:25] It's a good method uh for uh in C2
[01:56:28] exploration. Yes. And so you can find
[01:56:31] nice things with using ground
[01:56:33] penetrating radar if you want to to
[01:56:37] perform a wide area uh rough uh let's
[01:56:41] say rough um uh scanning uh you you can
[01:56:45] use my method. So you can you can find
[01:56:48] huge things on wide area. for the the
[01:56:52] details. It's okay. Ground penetrating
[01:56:54] radar.
[01:56:55] >> Um, is there anything else you want to
[01:56:56] show us that's in your presentation that
[01:56:58] you think Okay, show me some more stuff.
[01:57:00] >> Yes, it's a pleasure.
[01:57:01] >> Yeah, please. It's a pleasure for me,
[01:57:02] too. Thank you. Thank you for being
[01:57:04] here.
[01:57:05] >> Okay,
[01:57:06] >> thank you for inviting.
[01:57:07] >> Uh, Carora, is that how you say it?
[01:57:09] Carora. Kora.
[01:57:11] >> Carakora.
[01:57:11] >> Carakora.
[01:57:13] >> So, this is a carora. So, that image, go
[01:57:15] back one more time to carora. That, so
[01:57:17] that's a legitimate image. That's not AI
[01:57:19] generated. This is This is these guys
[01:57:22] standing in
[01:57:24] >> clearly what looks like megalithic
[01:57:26] stones stacked on top of each other.
[01:57:28] >> Clearly man-made.
[01:57:30] >> Yes. Clearly man-made because look, you
[01:57:31] see
[01:57:32] >> Yes.
[01:57:32] >> You see the blocks?
[01:57:33] >> Yeah. You see the blocks? It's [ __ ]
[01:57:35] nuts.
[01:57:37] >> No, but okay, we can we can understand
[01:57:39] that it's possible maybe it's possible
[01:57:41] to build something like that.
[01:57:42] >> Sure, it's possible.
[01:57:43] >> The purpose,
[01:57:44] >> right? The purpose and when and who and
[01:57:46] what civilization,
[01:57:48] >> right? Like who did that? That's That is
[01:57:50] insane.
[01:57:52] >> What even is that?
[01:57:53] >> What even is that? Yeah. I mean, there's
[01:57:56] ropes that go across and that's what
[01:57:58] you're seeing.
[01:57:59] >> And you're seeing
[01:58:00] >> that rope go where's his arm and where
[01:58:01] does the rope go to?
[01:58:02] >> Well, he's got his arm posted on the
[01:58:04] side of that wall and that rope goes
[01:58:06] across and you're just not seeing it
[01:58:07] because of the darkness.
[01:58:08] >> Is that like he's leaning against
[01:58:10] something there, too?
[01:58:11] >> Uh, it looks like he's got his hand on
[01:58:12] that wall. That opening. There's an
[01:58:14] opening in that shaft. Um, so what else
[01:58:17] is next in this in this presentation?
[01:58:20] >> Okay.
[01:58:21] >> Yeah. Which way should I go?
[01:58:23] >> Okay, we go upstairs. Let's see.
[01:58:26] Go back. Then we have Gubio. And there
[01:58:29] here we have the Osaris shafts which we
[01:58:31] use this shaft, the Osaris shaft like a
[01:58:34] benchmark because we we are able to
[01:58:37] understand the effectiveness of our
[01:58:40] technique that is able to retrive the
[01:58:42] shape of the osaris shaft. Why the
[01:58:44] shaft? because it's a benchmark that we
[01:58:46] know uh exactly how it is established
[01:58:50] and and uh and uh
[01:58:52] >> so it accurately depicts the Osiris.
[01:58:54] >> Yes. Yes.
[01:58:57] >> Um what else?
[01:58:58] >> Okay, let's go there. Okay. The uh 43 43
[01:59:05] Yes. Uh this is uh uh the Sangotard
[01:59:09] tunnel and here uh I made an exploration
[01:59:14] using my technique uh in order to
[01:59:16] retrive the shape of the railway tunnel
[01:59:20] that it is uh approximately 2 kilometers
[01:59:24] below uh the the the mountain and the
[01:59:28] slide 44.
[01:59:30] uh we can uh understand that in this
[01:59:33] case the Alps the the mountain resonates
[01:59:37] like a crystal. So you are seeing you
[01:59:40] are watching the mountain in the
[01:59:42] vibrational domain. So it's like
[01:59:45] a photograph a photo uh pick picked up
[01:59:49] or um uh synthe
[01:59:55] in in that case uh we can see the slide
[01:59:58] 45 and 46 we are detecting the tunnel
[02:00:03] the the tunnel yes that's the railway
[02:00:06] tunnel that is located below the earth.
[02:00:08] Wow.
[02:00:11] So this is just more proof of the
[02:00:13] accuracy of the technique.
[02:00:15] >> Yes. Yes.
[02:00:18] >> This is some really stunning stuff.
[02:00:20] >> Yes. That I can explain you other
[02:00:22] experiments. We can go starting from uh
[02:00:27] slide 36. Okay. Slide 36. This is a dam
[02:00:32] and this very it is a very important
[02:00:34] dam. It is a the Mosul dam that is
[02:00:37] located in Iraq.
[02:00:40] uh is very huge is 300 m tall has a
[02:00:47] height of 300 m and 3 kilometers from
[02:00:50] one part to the other part of the dam.
[02:00:53] So it contains a a a huge amount of
[02:00:58] water from the uh upper side. There is
[02:01:01] the water that contains and below there
[02:01:04] there is the the river that uh uh the
[02:01:08] water comes out from the reservoir that
[02:01:11] is on top. Why the musul dam? The musul
[02:01:13] dam has a problem.
[02:01:16] Uh it has been built on a a bed of
[02:01:21] jesso. How you sayum? Japsum. Yes. And
[02:01:25] gypsum is uh um while is in contact of
[02:01:31] water it melts. So the musul dam is
[02:01:35] dangerous because it has a serious
[02:01:37] problem of stabilization.
[02:01:41] In this case, uh there are a lot of
[02:01:44] that's called satellites methods and
[02:01:47] synthetic virtual rather methods that
[02:01:49] are devoted to uh perform the so-called
[02:01:53] infrastructure monitoring. And in this
[02:01:56] case, the musul dam is crucial to be uh
[02:01:59] observed by radar. In this case, I
[02:02:02] wanted to see the the slide 37 please.
[02:02:08] Erh here uh inside the dam look that
[02:02:11] there is a tunnel the red line the
[02:02:16] tunnel.
[02:02:16] >> Mhm.
[02:02:17] >> And here we have uh we have um uh we
[02:02:21] have uh uh people that are working uh
[02:02:25] inside the tunnel and the the task was
[02:02:28] my technique is with my technique is
[02:02:31] possible to detect the tunnel. We go in
[02:02:34] slide 38.
[02:02:37] Okay. And we see on the uh right top
[02:02:40] there is the tunnel.
[02:02:42] >> Just to explain you where you see red
[02:02:44] the vibration energy is high so is red.
[02:02:48] When you see blue the vibration has
[02:02:51] energy is low. Okay is low and inside
[02:02:56] the tunnel because you have the air you
[02:02:58] don't have vibration. So is low and so
[02:03:01] you see the tunnel.
[02:03:03] >> Okay.
[02:03:05] And so we were also able to detect slide
[02:03:09] 39 also the principal facility that are
[02:03:13] uh located inside the dam which are the
[02:03:15] turbinas
[02:03:17] >> the turbines
[02:03:18] >> the turbines
[02:03:19] >> right
[02:03:20] >> and uh and other stuff and all the
[02:03:22] mechanical the mechanical uh um
[02:03:26] machines. This is the all the mechanical
[02:03:29] machines that are located inside.
[02:03:31] >> All right. So it's showing the accurate
[02:03:32] shape of the turbines as well. So this
[02:03:34] is just more proof that this technique
[02:03:36] works.
[02:03:36] >> Yes. And so we go uh slide 31.
[02:03:41] On slide 31. Okay. Here this is the
[02:03:43] grandaso. Uh how nice is this? Uh is for
[02:03:47] me very nice because I I born here.
[02:03:49] >> This is the particle collider.
[02:03:51] >> Yeah. Inside the the mountain in the
[02:03:54] core of the mountain there is the the
[02:03:56] laboratory here. And uh and the the the
[02:04:01] task was can I uh detect the facility
[02:04:05] that this inside the mountain. And so uh
[02:04:09] we we are now uh in the slide 32
[02:04:14] and 33.
[02:04:16] Okay. And we can see okay the facility
[02:04:21] that is ENFN is the institute of
[02:04:24] nationality the physical nuclear
[02:04:26] >> m you see the shape of it in there
[02:04:29] >> yeah national institute uh of of nuclear
[02:04:32] physics the Italian national institute
[02:04:34] of nuclear physics
[02:04:36] >> and that's more than a kilometer deep
[02:04:37] into the mountain
[02:04:38] >> 1.4 four and uh yes and slide 30 35 we
[02:04:44] we can see we can see the the the
[02:04:47] laboratory.
[02:04:48] >> Wow.
[02:04:48] >> Yeah, this is the laboratory.
[02:04:50] >> That's crazy.
[02:04:52] That's crazy.
[02:04:54] So using your techniques you get an
[02:04:56] accurate depiction of the dimensions of
[02:04:59] this laboratory.
[02:05:01] >> Yeah.
[02:05:01] >> Wow.
[02:05:02] >> And that's that uh that triangle is
[02:05:05] called the interferometer.
[02:05:07] So when you have two lasers that uh and
[02:05:10] goes together and they they and it uh
[02:05:14] you can study the the pattern the
[02:05:16] interference pattern that coherent
[02:05:18] signals are generating you can use an
[02:05:22] interpherometer and that's the
[02:05:23] interferometer.
[02:05:25] Wow.
[02:05:28] This is all amazing stuff. It's amazing
[02:05:31] and I I I feel like we're at the
[02:05:32] beginning of a very fascinating journey.
[02:05:35] Yeah. You know, and I think that your
[02:05:37] work and this research and all the
[02:05:39] controversy is good. All the controversy
[02:05:42] around it is just going to make more
[02:05:43] people talk about it, more people
[02:05:44] discuss it, and more people understand.
[02:05:46] And it just seems to me that the more
[02:05:48] they research it, the more the mystery
[02:05:50] opens up, and that it is without a doubt
[02:05:53] one of the most astounding discoveries
[02:05:54] in human history.
[02:05:56] >> Yes.
[02:05:58] >> Thank you, Joel. Congratulations on
[02:06:00] discovering it and thank you so much for
[02:06:02] all your hard work because I mean uh
[02:06:04] like I said is to me one of the most
[02:06:06] fascinating subjects and you know what
[02:06:09] Graham always speaks of is that we are a
[02:06:11] species with amnesia.
[02:06:13] >> Yes.
[02:06:13] >> And
[02:06:14] >> and I agree with this with that
[02:06:16] >> and you know it's one of the reasons why
[02:06:18] so many people are mad at him is because
[02:06:19] he was right. He was right in the 1990s,
[02:06:22] you know, and and as time goes on, he is
[02:06:25] being proven more and more to be correct
[02:06:28] and things just seem to keep getting
[02:06:30] older.
[02:06:30] >> Yes,
[02:06:31] >> it's amazing. Thank you so much for
[02:06:33] being here. I really, really appreciate
[02:06:35] your time and I appreciate your work and
[02:06:36] >> thank you for inviting me.
[02:06:38] >> My pleasure. Let's do it again when more
[02:06:39] stuff comes out.
[02:06:40] >> Okay, I'm here.
[02:06:42] >> If anybody wants to find more about
[02:06:43] this, where would you uh send them to?
[02:06:46] Is there a website that would give them
[02:06:47] more information if they want to do a
[02:06:49] deep dive? Yes. Um I have a personal
[02:06:53] website which is harmonicsar.com and I
[02:06:56] publish.
[02:06:57] >> Say that again. Harmonics.com. Yes.
[02:06:59] >> Harmonicar.
[02:07:00] >> It's man. It's
[02:07:01] >> synthetic aperture radar is sar. So
[02:07:03] harmonicsar.com.
[02:07:05] >> Yes.
[02:07:06] >> Filippo beond.
[02:07:07] >> I mean
[02:07:08] >> you're the man. Thank you, sir. Really
[02:07:10] appreciate you being Thank you. All
[02:07:11] right. [music] Bye everybody.
[02:07:18] >> [music]