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>> The Joe Rogan Experience.

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>> Don't worry, sir.

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>> Fine. Thank you.

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>> Thank you [music] very much for being

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here. I'm really excited to talk to you.

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Uh, obviously there's been an amazing

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amount of interest and controversy

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because of your work. Uh, we should

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explain to everybody right off the bat

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what this is about. You are the man that

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was at the head of this

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research that is looking at structures

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that are underneath the bottom of the

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pyramid. And uh incredibly

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controversial, very fascinating, and if

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it's accurate, it essentially rewrites

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all of human history.

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>> Yes. Uh thank you for this invitation.

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And uh yes the group is composed by

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Colorado Malanga which is the head of

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the group and the uh dean professor of

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chemistry at University of Pisa.

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>> Could you explain your background please

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so people understand? Yeah

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>> yes my background is uh this I am a

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telecommunication engineering. I

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graduate at the university.

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>> What is that word again? Say it again.

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>> Telecommunication engineer.

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>> Telecommunications engineer. Okay. It's

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like your your English is excellent but

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the Italian accent although fabulous

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sometimes it's difficult to translate.

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>> Thank you very much Joe. I'm sorry yes

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that I'm not mother tongue of English

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>> still much better than my Italian.

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>> Okay, thank you. [laughter]

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>> Yes, I graduated myself in university at

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the University of Leche south of Italy.

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very nice university and uh it it was it

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is has the name of a famous mathematic

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mathematic

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Italian which is any deeo

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de Georgie um

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was living in the era then John

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was living also and they uh were they

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were one against to the other and Uh

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they were they was both um studying the

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19 Hilbert pro problem and John um any

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de Georgie solved this pro this problem

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one week before John Nash.

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>> Ah interesting John Nash who from the

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famous movie a brilliant mind with

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Russell Crow.

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>> So uh then I performed my PhD at

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Lasapenza in Rome

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uh and now I'm here. And how did you get

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involved in this this discovery?

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>> Yes. Uh I worked uh on radar and

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synthetic radar for a lot of time. Um

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>> Yes. Yes. Some

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>> which you can't really talk about. No.

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and uh I was um

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involved in some research where um

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together with uh the Italian research

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council of Bari always south of Italy.

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processing that were able were able to

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to to perform something special. And so

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>> so this top secret research that you

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work on for the Italian government led

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you to try this stuff out try this

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technology out and this is satellite

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based technology correct and it's a

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opinion very simple uh the radar is

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installed on board on the satellite the

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satellite flies at in the space uh at

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distance of 600 kilometers at 7

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uh it flies along the orbit, it is um

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able to catch snapshots of the earth.

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focusing procedure let's say it in the

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direction is done by sound by the

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noise will rise the frequency because it

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the the target has a velocity a posity

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the velocity with respect to U and so

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the frequency is rised up and this

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procedure uh allow us to estimate or to

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to grab let's say the um um vibration

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information that is always present at

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vanishment waves that are present on the

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surface of the earth. So this vi

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vibration which is mechanical vibration

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pyramids or was it something that was

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speak I am we are in 2018 he was

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studying the pyramids and so we were

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some information to to to conclude the

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research that he was doing. And so uh I

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proposed him to use my technique and uh

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pyramid to watch inside the pyramid. And

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kufu pyramid and what the chambers are

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pyramid. Uh because we uh we were our

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Armando May. Uh he suggest us to expand

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our research and scan all the Giza

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plateau. And so what what date was it

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that you discovered these immense

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columns with the coils around it and all

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those structures that are underneath the

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pyramid? Yes, in the second part of of

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our research, we uh started focusing our

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algorithms to go deeper. And so when we

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very nice things

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saw those images that do appear to be

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immense columns? Uh I believe they're uh

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>> What what what went through your mind?

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>> Skepticism.

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we had those results for uh in our um

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desk without uh disclosure or anything

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for 6 months because my my opinion was

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that was not real. Um I uh I did I

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was thinking that maybe it was noise or

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some artifacts due due by our uh

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>> Did give you pause at all that they were

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very specific places and that they they

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uh satellite system that is it is cosmos

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kimemed and cosmos kimemed second

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generation it's very good very precise

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using also other satellites because Joe

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in research when we have diversity

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diversity is a good thing because it

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confirms other things that we uh were uh

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searching we were searching confirmation

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confirmation. So once we had the same

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results while we were we was using uh

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space and and also other satellites

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having always the same results. We

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decided to disclosure.

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>> How many different scans have been done

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>> More than 200. And all with uniform

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>> There's a lot of resistance to this and

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it's from the usual characters and it's

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from people that I would characterize as

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gatekeepers of archaeological

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information. And um unfortunately they

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are not willing to approach this with an

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open mind. And you see this skepticism

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that just seems to me to be confirmation

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bias. They they want this to not be true

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regardless of the sheer number of scans

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and the uniformity of the results of

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these scans. And also the fact that this

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stuff has been proven to work on other

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things like didn't you guys use this

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exact technology to get the exact

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dimensions of a particle collider that

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where I have born in Lula which is

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located in the center of Italy. At the

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there is a huge mountain called Grand

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Saso the Grand Saso Italia which is uh

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has a maximum altitude of about 3,000 m

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for being precise 2993 m. And so um

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there there is a a tunnel very very long

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tunnel about uh 11 12 kilometers and in

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[clears throat] the core of this

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mountain there is a particle collider

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there is a laboratory let's say like

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that

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>> and this technology

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got the exact dimensions of this

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particle collider that's deep in this

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mountain.

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>> Yes at

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1.4 kilometers with respect to the top.

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>> Wow. Yeah.

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>> Okay. So, we know it's accurate. We know

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it works. What do you think it I mean,

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other than what I said that it's

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gatekeepers of archaeological

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information? It's people that don't want

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to admit that there's perhaps a quite a

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bit bigger mystery than just the

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pyramids themselves. What What is What

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do you think it is that is causing this

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resistance?

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>> Personally, it's true. We found a lot of

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resistance. Yes, it's true. But

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personally, I don't know why. Erh, I can

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say something uh regarding to my

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personal opinion.

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Uh

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Joe, it is something that maybe is too

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big, too huge to

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to be disclosured like that today. I

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don't know why

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>> it's confusing to people because it's

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it's essentially

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paradigm shattering because the pyramids

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themselves are absolutely spectacular.

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The Great Pyramid is 2,300,000

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stones. The the alignment is to perfect

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true now, true north, south, east, and

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west. It's a really incredible

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accomplishment. Whoever built it and

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when they built it, it's just undeniably

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fascinating that this was done at the

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the very least 25,500 BC, probably even

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older than that. We really don't know.

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>> But that alone is spectacular. But then

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when you add the findings that you have,

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it just makes everybody go, "We don't

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know anything. We really don't. We we

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know that these things exist, but their

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purpose has always been speculative. The

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speculation was that it is some sort of

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a tomb, but that doesn't make any sense

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because there's there's no hieroglyphs

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inside of it. It doesn't seem like a

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tomb. Doesn't look like a tomb." And I'm

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sure you're aware of Christopher Dunn's

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work.

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>> Yes. Yes. which you know he's an

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engineer and he said it it appears that

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this thing is some sort of a mechanical

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thing and that it's probably designed to

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generate some kind of power. Yeah. Uh

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yes in this uh in this context I have

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spoke a lot with Christopher Dan and uh

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in in uh um I like a lot his theory and

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uh it it makes sense and um and so this

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discoveries matches a lot with his uh

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with his and also to other scientists

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that makes make recast the uh effective

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purpose of the pyramid not to to be

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tombs. Today we are sure we are sure or

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of one thing that the pyramids are not

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tombs. They're not tombs. And what is

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truly spectacular is that if if this

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data is accurate, those immense

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structures that have baffled mankind

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forever are just the tip of the iceberg.

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>> Yes.

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>> That's just the top.

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>> Yes.

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>> And underneath it,

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>> you have these immense structures that

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we have not yet fully explored. But you

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have data that shows that. Let's let's

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look at the images. Let's pull up some

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of the images so people can see what

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we're talking about. Cuz once you see

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it, you mind just goes, "Okay, what are

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we even talking about?" Like,

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>> what was this civilization?

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When did it exist? And what kind of

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technology would allow them to not just

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construct the pyramids, which is

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absolutely baffling, but if this

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structure that is underneath the

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pyramids is accurately described by your

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work, we're looking at something that it

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it is going to have to change our entire

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perspective on the history of humanity.

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Yes, I agree with you Joe because what

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we found it is something that is has

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been confirmed by by our measurements

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and at the moment I suppose that our

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measurements are the only are the only

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data that we have because there aren't

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other other data. So

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uh what we are uh observing we are we

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are observing principally vertical

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structure. This vertical structures has

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a a pattern a regular pattern and this

391
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regular pattern is uh um uh constituted

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by a so-called spiral nature. I found

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this and

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>> okay so what are we looking at here?

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These are

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>> that's the right one.

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>> Yes.

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>> Yeah. Okay.

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>> Yes. That is the cafrey pyramid. And you

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see Joe at the top of the tomography.

401
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The tomography is on the x. Uh so the

402
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horizontal dimension we have the space.

403
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Okay.

404
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>> Space adjust the range

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>> and on the vertical we have the depth.

406
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>> Okay.

407
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>> Okay. On the top we have the um uh the

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the the pyramid. You see you see the

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pyramid on the top. And while you go

410
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down, you are observing the structures

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that are going down. And look, you have

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the spiral nature of the of the of the

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structures.

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>> Okay, this is not the clearest image

415
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that I've seen. So, what are Let me see

416
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some other images.

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>> Um,

418
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>> because this is just one, right?

419
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>> I know. That's what this was from his

420
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presentation and I didn't know where to

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get the best from it.

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>> Back up one. So

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>> go go go. Okay. Again

424
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we have a lot of images here that that

425
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is requesting all the uh the research

426
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that we have done together.

427
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>> So the images that are going around

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online that people have seen are these

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3D replica. Pull up some more of those.

430
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>> Yeah. Get them off the web.

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>> Okay. Um some of the images online are

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recreations of what it is observed and

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what you believe this could look like

434
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underneath. Correct.

435
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>> Uh we have performed measurements and

436
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they are sound measurements that are

437
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that has been picked up from the surface

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of the earth by satellites. So they are

439
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very precise and they are coherent. A

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coherent it means that contains a lot of

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information. So it is uh characterized

442
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to have high entropy and so when we

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perform the so-called tomographic

444
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inversion we can see what there is

445
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underneath.

446
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>> Okay. So this is a recreation of what

447
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you believe it looks like.

448
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>> Yes.

449
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>> And how are you getting that from the

450
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image that's below that?

451
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>> Okay.

452
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>> So the image is just one aspect of the

453
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data. Correct. Yes,

454
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the imag

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>> this this this multicolored

456
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>> image. Okay, here we are observing

457
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inside the Cafra pyramid and inside the

458
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Cafra pyramid uh we are observing those

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structure there. The the those are

460
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inside the Cafra pyramid

461
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>> and the image above

462
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>> yes

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>> that is an artist recreation of what you

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think it looks like. Now, how did you

465
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make that determination that that's what

466
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it looks like?

467
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>> Okay. Um

468
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uh the uh 3D model has been has been um

469
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retrived not um observing just only one

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result but observing a lot of results.

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So putting on a table all the results

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that we have we were able to retrive so

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to facilitate people to read our

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measurements. Okay. So observing the

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results we were able to uh determine the

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spirals and the uh structures that are

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located starting from the base of the

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caf pyramid going down.

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>> I've seen other images of the scans that

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are more convincing than the one that's

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below. So, let's see if we can find some

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of those.

483
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What are they? What else do you have

484
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here?

485
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>> Yes, these are all images that are

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related to the first uh

487
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>> So, this is just an article that's in

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the news.

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>> Okay.

490
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>> Yeah, I just I mean, I even went here. I

491
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>> um what is like where's a a good place

492
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to get the best versions of these

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images? Like that right there. Okay.

494
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>> It's just kind of

495
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>> Okay. What is this? Okay. Uh here we are

496
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watching a wide area of of our

497
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tomographies. Look and we see the

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structures that are going down.

499
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>> Yes. This is much clearer.

500
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>> Yes.

501
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>> Okay. And

502
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>> and below the below the structure at the

503
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end of the structures there are huge

504
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chambers but they are really huge

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approximately having a uh a width and

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the length and the height of 80 80 m. So

507
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80 meter structures that are below all

508
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of this.

509
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>> Yes.

510
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>> So almost the size of a football field

511
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below all this. That is some sort of a

512
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chamber.

513
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>> Yeah.

514
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>> And um see see if you can find some

515
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other images, Jamie.

516
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So the coils,

517
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how did you determine that there was

518
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coils? Is it just because of the gaps

519
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that you see in the imagery? whether

520
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they come in this uniform pattern

521
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pattern that I I have

522
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two or three slides on my presentation

523
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where we find the coils.

524
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,720
>> Okay, let's see if we can find those

525
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slides.

526
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>> You know which you know which slide

527
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maybe

528
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>> if you go down please. Yeah. Uh wait a

529
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minute.

530
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Okay. Okay. Here. Okay. Here we can

531
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observe a regular pattern. So not uh not

532
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coils. And we and we go we go down

533
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:31,279
please. Okay. Regular pattern. And the

534
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coils are beginning to be seen there on

535
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the third image

536
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>> here. Regular pattern. Go down please.

537
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And here. This is in my personal opinion

538
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uh the fourth image uh from the uh left

539
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to the right. The fifth image. One, two,

540
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three. Four. The fourth image. I'm

541
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sorry. where you have a core at the at

542
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the center of the the the coil at the at

543
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the center of the the structure and then

544
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we have

545
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a something that spirals down.

546
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>> So has anybody speculated about what

547
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this could possibly be like what these

548
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coils are?

549
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>> Yes. erh I spoke with uh uh two

550
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:26,798
independent with let's say with some

551
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:30,959
independent researchers and uh uh

552
00:24:26,798 --> 00:24:32,639
especially with Christopher Dan and uh

553
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:36,319
um

554
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:41,278
and also uh I spoke also with Jeffrey

555
00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:44,399
that uh is uh uh considering also the

556
00:24:41,278 --> 00:24:46,640
Giza power plant like a chemical reactor

557
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:49,679
or something like that. So we have on

558
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:53,919
one side uh

559
00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:56,798
uh uh scientists that say okay it can be

560
00:24:53,919 --> 00:24:59,200
something related to electricity or or

561
00:24:56,798 --> 00:25:02,639
we have something related to chemical

562
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:06,240
chemicals or other things in my personal

563
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:09,520
opinion me I can see anything I can say

564
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:13,038
anything because I just measured what

565
00:25:09,519 --> 00:25:17,440
there is there so it is not my how you

566
00:25:13,038 --> 00:25:20,158
say my my job to do this my job is okay

567
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,640
here we have the measurements and now we

568
00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:27,120
have to see what there is inside my in

569
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:28,720
my personal opinion this is the right um

570
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,479
time

571
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,679
to say okay let's go be let's go there

572
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,640
and see what there is

573
00:25:33,679 --> 00:25:35,120
>> let's start digging

574
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,880
>> yes

575
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,798
>> yeah um pull up some more images please

576
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,880
Jamie um so

577
00:25:38,798 --> 00:25:43,440
>> yes this is very important if you want I

578
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:47,919
can I can tell you about this

579
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:52,320
>> okay because It is uh the very important

580
00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:56,480
u project research project that uh I am

581
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:58,960
working now and it is something that if

582
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:02,079
could be possible we can go there and

583
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:07,759
without digging anything we can go

584
00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:10,720
below. Why? Because uh belonging between

585
00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:14,000
the Sphinx and the Cafra pyramid, there

586
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:17,360
are some shafts. And there there are the

587
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:21,919
photos of the shafts where we can go in

588
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:25,839
Sidto and we can uh physically go there

589
00:26:21,919 --> 00:26:28,640
and see and watch those shafts.

590
00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:31,918
Currently the shafts are

591
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:37,200
blocked by debris and there is also

592
00:26:31,919 --> 00:26:40,320
rubbish inside. So we uh I performed I

593
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:43,440
performed a lot of scans at at those

594
00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:46,158
shafts and you see jaw the sha the the

595
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,159
shafts goes down down down down down and

596
00:26:46,159 --> 00:26:50,559
they reach

597
00:26:48,159 --> 00:26:52,799
chambers that are below

598
00:26:50,558 --> 00:26:53,599
>> and that is the doc doppler tomography

599
00:26:52,798 --> 00:26:55,918
readings. Yes.

600
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:56,399
>> So these shafts go down. How far do they

601
00:26:55,919 --> 00:27:00,799
go down?

602
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:03,440
>> Yes, they go down approximately 600 m.

603
00:27:00,798 --> 00:27:06,158
>> 600 m. Wow. Yes.

604
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,798
>> So 600 m down and then they reach a

605
00:27:06,159 --> 00:27:07,520
chamber.

606
00:27:06,798 --> 00:27:09,278
>> Yes.

607
00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:12,240
>> What is the conventional explanation for

608
00:27:09,278 --> 00:27:14,079
these shafts? Is there one

609
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,240
>> like what is what what do current

610
00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:17,359
archaeologists what does academia what

611
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,400
do they think these things are? Leave

612
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,278
that right there for a second.

613
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:25,840
>> Yes. Yes. This is the complete 3D model

614
00:27:21,278 --> 00:27:28,960
that me and Colorado did. And uh so to

615
00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:33,839
uh observe all the structures that we

616
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:35,679
have find that we found um

617
00:27:33,839 --> 00:27:38,319
evaluating

618
00:27:35,679 --> 00:27:39,919
the tomographies that we have done on

619
00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:42,079
the Jiza plateau.

620
00:27:39,919 --> 00:27:44,240
>> So it's not just under the great

621
00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:45,278
pyramid, it's under all three pyramids

622
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,319
>> and also the Sphinx.

623
00:27:45,278 --> 00:27:46,880
>> And also the Sphinx.

624
00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:49,678
>> Yes.

625
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:54,000
>> And they all seem to go do they go down

626
00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:57,440
to a uniform depth? Erh, we found at the

627
00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:00,159
moment the same depth. Yes.

628
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,558
>> And they all have chambers at the

629
00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:02,960
bottom.

630
00:28:00,558 --> 00:28:06,000
>> Yes. Absolutely. Yes. And that's the the

631
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:08,798
the in my personal opinion my the nice

632
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:12,319
thing that uh that we are dealing at the

633
00:28:08,798 --> 00:28:16,480
end of the structures of these tubes

634
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:18,158
that are going down. There are um huge

635
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:22,798
uh chambers.

636
00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:26,159
>> How huge? Uh, as I told you before, 80 m

637
00:28:22,798 --> 00:28:28,158
times 80 m and times 80 m of height.

638
00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:29,120
>> And that's uniform underneath all the

639
00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:29,760
pyramids. It's the [clears throat] same

640
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,239
dimensions.

641
00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:31,839
>> Yes.

642
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,519
>> Wow.

643
00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:37,278
>> When you look at it like this, when you

644
00:28:33,519 --> 00:28:38,000
see your 3D recreation of the site, it's

645
00:28:37,278 --> 00:28:38,480
stunning.

646
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000
>> Yeah.

647
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:44,120
>> Because it just it just makes you think

648
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,119
like, what is this?

649
00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:48,640
I mean, I can understand the skepticism

650
00:28:46,398 --> 00:28:51,839
and I can understand the resistance to

651
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:55,360
this that modern academics have because

652
00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:56,959
this throws a giant monkey wrench into

653
00:28:55,359 --> 00:29:00,558
everything.

654
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:03,519
This make makes everything we know about

655
00:29:00,558 --> 00:29:06,558
that area thrown into question.

656
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:08,639
Because if this is true, like I said,

657
00:29:06,558 --> 00:29:10,319
this this rewrites history because

658
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,120
you're dealing with an advanced

659
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:16,759
civilization that is demonstrabably more

660
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:16,759
advanced than us.

661
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:26,240
Yes. Because uh they were able to

662
00:29:21,038 --> 00:29:28,879
to build very precise things, but not at

663
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,960
the surface of the earth below.

664
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,960
>> Well, they even built a lot of precise

665
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,319
things that confuse us.

666
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,480
One of the things that Christopher Dunn

667
00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:39,439
gave me is this. It's a the recreation

668
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:42,319
of the vase of one of the many voses

669
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:46,159
that they have that is

670
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:47,359
>> accurate in its the the way it was made.

671
00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:49,440
>> Yeah.

672
00:29:47,359 --> 00:29:51,278
>> Down to

673
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,038
god, what was the number? A thousandth

674
00:29:51,278 --> 00:29:56,319
of a human hair, something crazy like

675
00:29:53,038 --> 00:29:59,440
that. like much less than a human hair

676
00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:01,200
in the diameter, in the uniformity of

677
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,480
it, in the fact that it was carved out

678
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,558
of this incredibly hard stone at a time

679
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,919
where there was no metal alloys. They,

680
00:30:06,558 --> 00:30:10,319
you know, there supposedly had copper

681
00:30:07,919 --> 00:30:11,600
tools. No one understands it. No one

682
00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:13,359
knows how they did it. And it has

683
00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:16,000
handles on it, so it couldn't have even

684
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:18,959
been turned on a lathe.

685
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,759
Yes. And also if we go inside the

686
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,399
pyramids inside and also outside the

687
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:28,398
pyramids we can observe that the

688
00:30:24,398 --> 00:30:32,319
measurements are very precise. The the

689
00:30:28,398 --> 00:30:34,879
chambers are constituted by flat walls.

690
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:38,720
We don't have inscriptions

691
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:41,200
uh and the dimensions are all related to

692
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,079
the constants to the major constants of

693
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,159
universe.

694
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:46,720
>> Right? They're all aligned to the

695
00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:49,520
constellations. There's a lot of like

696
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:52,880
very strange calculations that they were

697
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:54,879
able to make like pathways where the sun

698
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,039
during the solar equinox

699
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,080
>> passes right through. It's a fascinating

700
00:30:57,038 --> 00:30:58,480
place.

701
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:00,798
>> Yes.

702
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,839
>> What when you

703
00:31:00,798 --> 00:31:03,918
started [clears throat]

704
00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:06,558
acquiring this data and you started

705
00:31:03,919 --> 00:31:09,278
accumulating it and then started going

706
00:31:06,558 --> 00:31:10,879
over it with experts, what did that feel

707
00:31:09,278 --> 00:31:13,359
like to you when you're when you

708
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,360
realizing, oh, this is real?

709
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:20,479
>> Yes.

710
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:24,479
It was something that uh was very

711
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:29,038
very nice for me because [laughter]

712
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:31,038
because uh when we disc the thing was um

713
00:31:29,038 --> 00:31:33,759
I

714
00:31:31,038 --> 00:31:36,720
was saying always to Gor

715
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:39,359
shall we disclosure this or not?

716
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:42,079
I think for for now not for now not but

717
00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:45,199
then the results were always the same.

718
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:45,759
So we decided to to disclose this uh

719
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,200
this

720
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:48,480
>> how long did you sit on it before you

721
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,120
decided to disclose it?

722
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,880
>> One year.

723
00:31:49,119 --> 00:31:52,479
>> One year. So for that one year, how

724
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,840
conflicted were you? You must have been

725
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,720
walking around like I have the biggest

726
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:56,079
secret on earth.

727
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,882
>> Yes.

728
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:59,881
>> How weird was that? [laughter]

729
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,320
Only two person knew this.

730
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:07,918
>> That's crazy. [laughter]

731
00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:10,558
That's crazy. two people having one of

732
00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:12,320
the biggest secrets on earth

733
00:32:10,558 --> 00:32:14,960
>> that's backed by data. I mean it's not

734
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:16,798
it's not even like you know someone told

735
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,440
you something like you have

736
00:32:16,798 --> 00:32:22,480
extraordinary data due to fascinating

737
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,798
modern technology that indicates that

738
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,919
there's these paradigm shifting

739
00:32:24,798 --> 00:32:30,798
structures.

740
00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:35,038
>> Yeah. And uh I I tell you Joe, I I would

741
00:32:30,798 --> 00:32:36,000
like to go there and see what there is

742
00:32:35,038 --> 00:32:36,640
in person.

743
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,038
>> Yes.

744
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:42,399
>> Because it's it's now time. I think

745
00:32:39,038 --> 00:32:44,079
>> is there resistance from Egypt and the

746
00:32:42,398 --> 00:32:46,000
people that are in control of that area

747
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:50,079
or are they fascinated by it?

748
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:53,119
>> I tell you Joe, I didn't f find a lot of

749
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:55,678
resistance. There is I found a lot of

750
00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:57,678
resistance in the internet. Yes. A lot

751
00:32:55,679 --> 00:33:00,399
of the banking a lot of people that no

752
00:32:57,679 --> 00:33:03,919
it's not true it's not true

753
00:33:00,398 --> 00:33:06,398
>> a lot of people that continues

754
00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:09,200
were continuing to say no rather can

755
00:33:06,398 --> 00:33:13,119
penetrate the earth for one kilometer 4

756
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:15,759
and they didn't know or they they they

757
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:18,319
purposely not saying this that we are

758
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:21,200
not penetrating anything because we are

759
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:23,678
just grabbing the entropy that is on the

760
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,759
surface of the earth and with with with

761
00:33:23,679 --> 00:33:28,559
that information we are retriving

762
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:30,879
tomographies. It's something new that I

763
00:33:28,558 --> 00:33:33,200
invented but it works because we have

764
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,120
benchmarks that demonstrates the

765
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,038
effectiveness of the method and it's

766
00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:38,479
this is 100%.

767
00:33:37,038 --> 00:33:41,519
>> And there's also been some criticism

768
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,679
that the patents have expired but that's

769
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:44,319
because you have new patents on better

770
00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:49,200
stuff.

771
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:51,839
>> Yes. Now Jo under NDA. So h I uh we just

772
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,919
uh I think I I can say something about

773
00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:56,000
the second patent because just yesterday

774
00:33:53,919 --> 00:33:56,559
we filed the patent in USA.

775
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,519
>> Nice.

776
00:33:56,558 --> 00:34:01,278
>> Yes.

777
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:04,240
>> Wow. Um have any academics reached out

778
00:34:01,278 --> 00:34:05,599
to you in support that are interested in

779
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,079
this and would like to explore this

780
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:10,639
further?

781
00:34:06,079 --> 00:34:15,039
>> Yes. Yes. Erh I I tell you this there

782
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:19,039
are uh companies uh related to mining

783
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:24,960
and uh uh crude oil extraction and then

784
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:27,440
also water. Uh Joe today we are living a

785
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:30,320
particular time because water is very

786
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:34,000
important. Uh we are in a so-called

787
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:36,559
water emergency in all the world. So for

788
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,480
me the first thing that we have to do is

789
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:41,838
to scan

790
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:45,280
uh the earth and uh uh to fetch to to

791
00:34:41,838 --> 00:34:48,398
find to try and find other uh let's say

792
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:51,200
uh opportunity to ext extract not salty

793
00:34:48,398 --> 00:34:52,878
water because it's very important.

794
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:53,519
>> So you'll be using this technology for

795
00:34:52,878 --> 00:34:55,679
that as well.

796
00:34:53,519 --> 00:34:56,159
>> We uh for now not but I'm thinking to do

797
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,519
it.

798
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:59,280
>> Well it makes sense. I mean, if it can

799
00:34:57,519 --> 00:35:01,440
detect this, it should be able to detect

800
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,280
that as well. And that will be if and

801
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,838
it's and it also if it's accurate, that

802
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:09,119
will also help garner support. Yes. For

803
00:35:05,838 --> 00:35:09,838
this this exploration of whatever is

804
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:14,160
under there.

805
00:35:09,838 --> 00:35:18,159
>> Yeah. And uh so uh we we are receiving a

806
00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:21,199
lot of uh uh calls from uh companies

807
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:23,598
that want to work with me. And so let's

808
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:25,118
see what what we can do. And so this is

809
00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:27,119
all companies that have reached out

810
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:28,400
after you released the results

811
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:31,358
underneath the pyramids.

812
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,639
>> Uh the most of them are calling me

813
00:35:31,358 --> 00:35:34,239
recently,

814
00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:35,358
>> right? So they've heard about

815
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,719
>> relatively recently. Yes.

816
00:35:35,358 --> 00:35:38,400
>> Well, that's capitalism, right? They

817
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,959
they say, "Oh, we can make money off of

818
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,280
this."

819
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,440
>> Yes.

820
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,200
>> Yeah. Well, that's good. That gets

821
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,838
people interested. It gets people

822
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:46,239
involved in this.

823
00:35:43,838 --> 00:35:49,679
>> And so we have also philanthrop

824
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:54,159
philanthropic project. We are opening a

825
00:35:49,679 --> 00:35:57,759
um a foundation in Malta. Uh we we are

826
00:35:54,159 --> 00:36:00,399
realizing it in uh two weeks and uh we

827
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,400
we will have a foundation in Malta and

828
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,639
with the with that foundation we can

829
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:08,320
operate also philanthropically for the

830
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:11,039
the Giza plateau and other uh and other

831
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,680
uh ancient megalytics that are located

832
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:14,480
in all the world. We have a plan to scan

833
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:16,879
everything

834
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:20,719
>> really. What is next?

835
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:22,720
Uh maybe we we can see uh Pumapo or

836
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,519
other sites.

837
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,838
>> Yeah. Yeah. Go back.

838
00:36:25,519 --> 00:36:29,838
>> Go back. Yes.

839
00:36:27,838 --> 00:36:31,599
>> Have you looked at the labyrinths

840
00:36:29,838 --> 00:36:33,599
underneath uh the the ones that were

841
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:35,359
described by Herododus that Ben Van

842
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:38,920
Kirkwick has been talking about and his

843
00:36:35,358 --> 00:36:38,920
Uncharted exchange

844
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:44,960
atrium with a 40 meter metallic object

845
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:48,319
that's the shape of a tic tac in there.

846
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,119
>> Yes. They asked me to do it and we will

847
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,720
do it.

848
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:53,920
>> Yeah, you have to do that.

849
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:57,439
>> I I tell you Joe the processing is very

850
00:36:53,920 --> 00:37:00,400
nice but requests a lot of calculations.

851
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:04,400
So uh it is time consuming. So at the

852
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:07,200
moment at the moment uh we have some

853
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:10,639
computers that are dedicated on JA and

854
00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:14,319
other project that we are doing and in

855
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:18,000
the future maybe we will have other um

856
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:20,160
other machines that uh can work to to do

857
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,719
other things but we will do it. We we

858
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:25,838
need time but we will do it. Now, are

859
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:28,000
you absolutely convinced that this data

860
00:37:25,838 --> 00:37:29,838
is accurate or have any of the

861
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,920
criticisms of any of the people that are

862
00:37:29,838 --> 00:37:34,000
trying to debunk it? Have has any of

863
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,920
that resonated with you and rang true?

864
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,880
Is there any validity to any of the

865
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:42,480
criticisms?

866
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:45,920
>> Radar is only precise. The nice thing

867
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:48,639
that has radar is the precision

868
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:51,920
and especially from space because space

869
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:54,239
it is a very silent environment. you

870
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,880
don't have noise something the the

871
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:59,199
platform is very stable. So when you

872
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:02,240
transmit electromagnetic waves

873
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:03,759
>> they return back with absolutely precise

874
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,598
with absolute precision

875
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:08,640
>> and it's recreated over and over again

876
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:10,320
in these 200 plus scans that you've done

877
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:12,159
with various different satellites.

878
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,039
Correct. Not just one so that one could

879
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:13,279
have errors.

880
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:14,400
>> Yeah.

881
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,800
>> So you're convinced?

882
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:20,639
>> I'm convinced 100% because

883
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:25,119
>> wow I did the I invented the method.

884
00:38:20,639 --> 00:38:27,279
Yes, I know. But uh I tell you that uh I

885
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:30,880
am happy if somebody can replicate

886
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:33,200
things. So if other research groups can

887
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,320
replicate the things that I'm showing, I

888
00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:36,559
am happy.

889
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:39,039
>> Well, you got there first. Yeah. So no

890
00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:41,358
matter what [laughter]

891
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:43,838
>> I mean you if this is correct you will

892
00:38:41,358 --> 00:38:46,400
go down in history as one of the most

893
00:38:43,838 --> 00:38:49,599
important figures in archaeology because

894
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:52,240
if you are

895
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:54,160
>> you're welcome but I it's just fact if

896
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,838
what you're saying is true and we're

897
00:38:54,159 --> 00:38:58,078
just recently discovering this in the

898
00:38:55,838 --> 00:39:00,239
21st century. I mean that's absolutely

899
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:04,480
mindbending.

900
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:09,439
>> Uh thank you for this. Uh yes I I am

901
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:11,440
happy for uh for being in this uh but uh

902
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,240
not al not not only me other people

903
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,000
helping me to to do my work. Yes.

904
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,598
>> Oh of sure of course a lot of people

905
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,440
>> and in principal my family.

906
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:25,920
>> Yeah. um this these structures and this

907
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:28,000
this whole area if this turns out to be

908
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,800
something that you don't find just at

909
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:33,440
the Giza plateau but around other parts

910
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,039
of Egypt. I mean there's always been a

911
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,519
lot of speculation as to whether or not

912
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:39,679
a civilization existed in subsaharan

913
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:41,599
Africa an advanced civilization that in

914
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:43,118
the area are not now sand you could

915
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:43,838
probably do that same sort of research

916
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,880
there as well.

917
00:39:43,838 --> 00:39:48,639
>> Yes. Yes. I I agree with this and uh we

918
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:52,320
will do it. Yes.

919
00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:55,679
>> Wow. What is life like for you now

920
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,359
having this exposed and now you know

921
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:59,358
having this on the internet and all the

922
00:39:57,358 --> 00:40:00,719
speculation and all this excitement?

923
00:39:59,358 --> 00:40:05,199
What has that been like for you?

924
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:10,399
>> Yes, I am not very used uh on all this

925
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:12,639
exposure in on the internet. Uh

926
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:16,680
it is something that I have to uh get

927
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:16,679
used of this. Yes.

928
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:26,480
My my life is simple, Joe. I I live in

929
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:31,280
Italy and uh but uh um

930
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:37,519
now I repeat this uh it is time to go

931
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:43,920
ahead and go on the uh Jiza plateau and

932
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:46,000
in person I I wish to see the effective

933
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:49,280
structure how they are and the purpose

934
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,519
of the of all the plateau what it is And

935
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,160
is there plans to do that in person to

936
00:40:51,519 --> 00:41:00,000
do some sort of an excavation?

937
00:40:54,159 --> 00:41:02,719
>> Yes. Um I wrote a project proposal which

938
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:08,159
is a research and also not research a

939
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:12,000
proposal and uh is now um

940
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:14,799
we we are uh our intention is to submit

941
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,280
this proposal at the Egyptian

942
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,599
authorities.

943
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,319
If you want I can explain you this

944
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:23,760
proposal

945
00:41:20,318 --> 00:41:26,000
>> please. Um we are involving University

946
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,680
of Ferrara

947
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,679
um

948
00:41:27,679 --> 00:41:36,639
principal scientist professor Savakaro

949
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:38,239
Italian professor in she's a geologist

950
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:42,480
um

951
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:46,000
and other uh and other governmental

952
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:48,400
Italian governmental uh in institutions

953
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:52,239
that are very clever to do scans in sidu

954
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:54,400
scans. So we are not using my my

955
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:58,000
technique. We use the state-of-the-art

956
00:41:54,400 --> 00:42:00,318
technique that it is recognized by

957
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,318
science today.

958
00:42:00,318 --> 00:42:06,800
And

959
00:42:02,318 --> 00:42:09,199
uh our uh intention is to

960
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:12,400
uh concentrate the efforts on those

961
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:16,318
shafts that I that I showed you that we

962
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:21,838
we we have seen because we are we are

963
00:42:16,318 --> 00:42:24,880
not 90 99% convinced that or sure that

964
00:42:21,838 --> 00:42:28,159
those those are natural entrance into

965
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:30,800
the the uh the structures that are below

966
00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:33,838
that are located below because we have

967
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:36,079
the vertical structures and

968
00:42:33,838 --> 00:42:38,239
you saw on the on the tomographies you

969
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:39,680
have also horizontal connections.

970
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,639
>> So there's corridors.

971
00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:42,318
>> Yes, you have.

972
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:44,318
>> And how large are these corridors?

973
00:42:42,318 --> 00:42:47,519
>> Uh

974
00:42:44,318 --> 00:42:48,159
about uh they they are tall about 3 m

975
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:48,880
tall.

976
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:50,399
>> Okay.

977
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:55,119
>> So about 9 ft tall.

978
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:57,680
>> Yes. Yes. that can that will uh using

979
00:42:55,119 --> 00:43:00,880
these corridors you uh will arrive

980
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:06,078
directly inside the the the coils that

981
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:09,280
we are that we are uh uh um visualizing

982
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:13,280
uh that we v visualize uh before.

983
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:15,040
>> So there's passages and shafts and these

984
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,920
uh enormous

985
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:20,000
ways that they can go back and forth in

986
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,000
between these various structures. The

987
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,519
thing that we have to do now is to clean

988
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:28,000
those shafts. We have to do uh cleaning

989
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:29,920
because now they are um

990
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,239
>> sand debris.

991
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,358
>> Yeah.

992
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,759
>> Yeah.

993
00:43:31,358 --> 00:43:35,920
>> And um

994
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,680
is there a timeline on when you would

995
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,800
like to start cleaning these shafts and

996
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:40,719
start doing this kind of stuff?

997
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,920
>> Yes, it depends when we submit the

998
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:48,318
project. The project is ready. Uh I know

999
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:51,200
uh people that uh are living in uh in um

1000
00:43:48,318 --> 00:43:53,519
uh in Egypt that when we are ready we

1001
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:58,480
can submit the project proposal then we

1002
00:43:53,519 --> 00:44:00,639
are we are at uh when the government if

1003
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,159
if approved the project we can start.

1004
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:03,838
>> Now I would imagine that something like

1005
00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:05,759
this something at this scale would

1006
00:44:03,838 --> 00:44:06,400
require enormous funding.

1007
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,880
>> Yeah.

1008
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:13,440
>> And how do you uh how do you hope to

1009
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:17,920
acquire that? We we can make um we can

1010
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:23,679
say uh people that this this work is not

1011
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:28,079
for me but is for humans. And so people

1012
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:31,919
uh we we we ask people to help us in uh

1013
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:33,920
getting money to perform the work. We

1014
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,800
have to ask people. Have you reached out

1015
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,400
to any like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk type

1016
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,519
people that have tons of money that

1017
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,400
might be interested in doing something

1018
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:41,599
like this?

1019
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,318
>> I don't know them, Joe.

1020
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:44,880
>> You don't know them?

1021
00:44:42,318 --> 00:44:46,159
>> No. But maybe uh

1022
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,480
>> it's a big ask.

1023
00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:48,399
>> Yes,

1024
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,280
>> it's a big ask, you know, asking.

1025
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,880
>> It's a big ask.

1026
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,640
>> A few billion dollars to go dig around

1027
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,640
under the pyramids. I mean, how much

1028
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:55,118
money do you think it costs to to do

1029
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:57,679
this

1030
00:44:55,119 --> 00:45:01,599
>> to do? We we we have to do we we did an

1031
00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:04,078
estimation of uh the the

1032
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:08,559
an estimation about I don't know for

1033
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:09,760
maybe maybe uh belonging for 20 millions

1034
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:10,559
or or more

1035
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,680
>> $20 million

1036
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:13,440
>> yes $20 million

1037
00:45:11,679 --> 00:45:14,239
>> and this is just to clean the shaft and

1038
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,000
go underneath

1039
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:21,598
>> and because why so much money because we

1040
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:23,920
are our intention is to work safety I

1041
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:26,720
don't want that people has to go down

1042
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:30,480
the shaft and work. We will we want to

1043
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:34,078
use drones, robots to to make something

1044
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,599
automatically and so go down by using

1045
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:36,480
machines, not humans.

1046
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:36,720
>> Yeah, that makes sense.

1047
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,400
>> Yeah.

1048
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,159
>> Yeah. And that way you can get accurate

1049
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,039
real time video and

1050
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:44,960
>> Yes. Yes.

1051
00:45:41,039 --> 00:45:48,000
>> Wow. with cameras and uh it will be

1052
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:51,519
something I am thinking about this the

1053
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:53,920
most maybe is one of the most ancient

1054
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:58,079
megalithic structure that we are dealing

1055
00:45:53,920 --> 00:46:00,960
now can be recovered by the most modern

1056
00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:03,519
technology that we have now today and so

1057
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,800
we can recover it modern and ancient

1058
00:46:03,519 --> 00:46:06,719
together.

1059
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,400
>> So you've been giving this presentation

1060
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,480
now and you've been going around. What

1061
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,000
has that been like? What has the

1062
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,519
reception of it been like?

1063
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,800
>> Yes. A a moderate

1064
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:19,440
positive reception.

1065
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,839
>> Moderate positive. So people that are

1066
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,119
like if this is true it's amazing but

1067
00:46:21,838 --> 00:46:25,279
you have to show me more.

1068
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:27,838
>> Yes.

1069
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,119
>> I tell you in this project proposal I am

1070
00:46:27,838 --> 00:46:29,759
out.

1071
00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:33,119
>> You're out.

1072
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:35,359
>> Yes. It is better than that University

1073
00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:38,720
of Ferrara that is one of the most

1074
00:46:35,358 --> 00:46:42,159
important university in Italy can stay

1075
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:43,199
there and uh manage all the work is

1076
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:43,519
better

1077
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:44,639
>> right

1078
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:47,199
>> and I'm out

1079
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:49,199
>> right you showed them what's there show

1080
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:50,239
them the technology now

1081
00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:51,199
>> good luck

1082
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,719
>> thank you

1083
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:54,639
>> thank [laughter] you thank you and good

1084
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,879
luck so tell me about this presentation

1085
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:58,078
so how do you set this up I know you you

1086
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,079
brought some of the slides of this

1087
00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:01,039
presentation tell tell me how you set

1088
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:02,000
this up.

1089
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:04,000
>> How you

1090
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,838
>> how you set it up? So, how you explain

1091
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,679
it to these when you have these, you

1092
00:47:05,838 --> 00:47:09,039
know, semi-eptical scientists that are

1093
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:10,799
sitting down there and you're going to

1094
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:13,561
tell them, I'm about to rewrite human

1095
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,079
history. How do you set this up?

1096
00:47:13,561 --> 00:47:16,239
>> [laughter]

1097
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:18,640
>> Oh, they were uh they were listening me

1098
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:23,519
very well and they [snorts] asking me uh

1099
00:47:18,639 --> 00:47:25,920
things uh about how they everyone um the

1100
00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:28,559
first thing that they asked me is how it

1101
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:32,159
works and that's good and so I slowly

1102
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:34,960
explain explain them how it works and

1103
00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:37,838
how I arrived to to to make this

1104
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:43,519
presentation so to have our results and

1105
00:47:37,838 --> 00:47:45,119
uh uh and so and so on and They

1106
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:47,679
they they

1107
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:49,039
someone of them is skeptical, someone a

1108
00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:50,000
bit less skeptical,

1109
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:50,480
>> which is what you want.

1110
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,480
>> Yes.

1111
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,599
>> Yes. You want healthy debate about this

1112
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,960
kind of stuffy debate.

1113
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:56,240
>> That's the only way you find out what

1114
00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:00,079
the truth is.

1115
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:03,679
>> Yes. Only only having a you a healthy

1116
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:07,440
debate, we can find what is the truth. I

1117
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:09,440
I don't want to polarize people for me.

1118
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,599
You know, it's not my it's not my job.

1119
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,760
No. Well, not only that, it's not you're

1120
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:16,559
just discovering something. Yes.

1121
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:19,440
>> This is something that's there. And for

1122
00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:22,000
people to just put on a skeptical lens

1123
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,400
and just not look at it at all is crazy.

1124
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,239
>> Yes.

1125
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,519
>> Like if you're skeptical, we should

1126
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,159
probably explore it. And if you're

1127
00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:31,679
wrong, okay, now we know it's not true.

1128
00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:32,239
>> But if it is true, it's a crime to not

1129
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:33,838
investigate.

1130
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:38,239
>> Do not investigate. It's a crime to not

1131
00:48:33,838 --> 00:48:42,480
investigate. Yes. And I tell you the

1132
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:47,039
the uh solution to we we don't we don't

1133
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:49,679
have to dig holes uh uh ruin the what is

1134
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:52,558
now preserved. No, we we have to only

1135
00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:55,838
clean enough. We have to only clean and

1136
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:59,280
we have to use what there is

1137
00:48:55,838 --> 00:49:02,078
made. It's for us because those shafts

1138
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,599
they are for us. They are calling us. We

1139
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:08,880
our

1140
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:12,318
um our rights are to clean them and see

1141
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,599
what there is and do go down and explore

1142
00:49:12,318 --> 00:49:15,279
them. Personally,

1143
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:18,559
>> well, it just seems like these shafts

1144
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,400
exist at alone and they are at that

1145
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:22,400
depth that you describe and they are at

1146
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,079
the dimensions you describe. It really

1147
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,760
does lend credence to what you're

1148
00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:27,280
saying. Yeah. because it seems like

1149
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,000
there's a purpose for those things. And

1150
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:32,000
if they do go down to the area where all

1151
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,199
these structures are,

1152
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,280
>> seems like there's something there.

1153
00:49:33,199 --> 00:49:38,480
>> In my personal opinion, they were built

1154
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,599
purposely. And if you see the the

1155
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,838
>> access points probably.

1156
00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:45,838
>> Yes, they are access points. They are

1157
00:49:41,838 --> 00:49:49,599
they were made probably to um you know,

1158
00:49:45,838 --> 00:49:52,480
Joe uh when you go deep below the earth,

1159
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:58,960
the temperature rises a lot. So there is

1160
00:49:52,480 --> 00:50:01,920
a certain uh uh ratio uh of um where the

1161
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:05,358
temperature rises uh proportional to the

1162
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:08,800
depth that you are going. So the shafts

1163
00:50:05,358 --> 00:50:12,639
are made purposely to take the their

1164
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:17,480
their function is to transport air light

1165
00:50:12,639 --> 00:50:17,480
and so cool what there is inside.

1166
00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:21,039
>> Well that makes sense.

1167
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:23,358
>> Yeah. and also access

1168
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:24,400
um show me some of the other slides and

1169
00:50:23,358 --> 00:50:25,920
other things that are in your

1170
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,358
presentation so we can get a more

1171
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,760
comprehensive understanding of what

1172
00:50:27,358 --> 00:50:30,759
we're looking at.

1173
00:50:32,028 --> 00:50:33,838
[clears throat]

1174
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:38,799
>> Okay.

1175
00:50:33,838 --> 00:50:43,199
>> Yes. This is uh the Zed this is ah Mario

1176
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:51,039
Pinker. Maru Pinker was a researcher

1177
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:53,759
uh that he died the on 2011 12 and uh he

1178
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:56,318
was studying the zed which is the

1179
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,319
multi-layer monument let's call it a

1180
00:50:56,318 --> 00:51:01,519
monument but it's not a monument because

1181
00:50:58,318 --> 00:51:04,880
it it has a certain and very precise

1182
00:51:01,519 --> 00:51:05,759
function that is uh inside the pyramid

1183
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,280
this is the

1184
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,760
>> and this is [clears throat] the uh

1185
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,240
outlined image in the lower left hand

1186
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,160
corner.

1187
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,439
>> Yeah, that's the tomography that we that

1188
00:51:12,159 --> 00:51:14,000
we have retrieved. It looks very

1189
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,679
precise,

1190
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,599
>> right? It looks exactly like what it

1191
00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:19,358
looks like in the actual image. What is

1192
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:20,800
that thing? What is the what do you

1193
00:51:19,358 --> 00:51:27,199
think the function of that thing is?

1194
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:29,760
>> Yes. Uh the function is um is is this uh

1195
00:51:27,199 --> 00:51:31,679
uh it is you you see on the top of the

1196
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,400
structure there is something like

1197
00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:35,440
>> like a cap.

1198
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:39,920
>> Yes, like a cap.

1199
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:45,440
uh that cap uh is has a a precise

1200
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:47,039
function to act attract the in the the

1201
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,760
vibration.

1202
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:55,039
Okay. It's an antenna

1203
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:57,040
in the in the vibration domain. Okay.

1204
00:51:55,039 --> 00:51:57,759
>> Antenna in the vibration domain. Yes.

1205
00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:02,318
Okay.

1206
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:06,720
attract the the energy in terms of uh

1207
00:52:02,318 --> 00:52:08,639
mechanical vibration and propagates them

1208
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:11,919
below.

1209
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:14,400
There are other slides please. Okay. Uh

1210
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,159
here I did a simulation. Uh now I'm

1211
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:22,160
sorry because I don't have the video

1212
00:52:16,159 --> 00:52:24,799
because this is a PDF but uh I I um uh

1213
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:26,960
reproduced the function of the zed on

1214
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,599
the computer.

1215
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,480
Okay.

1216
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:33,039
>> Okay.

1217
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:35,760
>> And look on the right side, we have all

1218
00:52:33,039 --> 00:52:38,079
the vibrations that interacts one to

1219
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,720
each other to each layer. Look.

1220
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:41,359
>> Mhm.

1221
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:45,279
>> And you can see that each layer. Look

1222
00:52:41,358 --> 00:52:48,558
how strange it is. Each layer on the top

1223
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,440
of each layer, it is scattered.

1224
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:49,760
Look.

1225
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,838
>> Okay.

1226
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,880
>> On the top of the each layer and the

1227
00:52:51,838 --> 00:52:57,759
bottom is very flat. It's flat. So what

1228
00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:00,960
is that? It is something related to

1229
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:04,640
filter. It is a It is a low pass filter.

1230
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:06,400
A made by stones.

1231
00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:07,118
Very crazy. This that's a low pass

1232
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,358
filter.

1233
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:10,318
>> A lowass filter. What exactly is a

1234
00:53:09,358 --> 00:53:12,400
lowass filter?

1235
00:53:10,318 --> 00:53:15,599
>> Yes. A low pass filter is a filter that

1236
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:19,358
allow us that that allows the

1237
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:22,480
transmission only of certain frequencies

1238
00:53:19,358 --> 00:53:25,199
and reject other frequencies. So it is a

1239
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:29,199
stabilizer frequency stabilizer and the

1240
00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:31,199
low pass or a a certain low value

1241
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:31,759
frequency.

1242
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:34,960
Okay.

1243
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,800
>> Right. And so this aligns with

1244
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,119
Christopher Dunn's theory. Yeah.

1245
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:42,960
>> That there was something underneath the

1246
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:45,760
the pyramid that there was a a chamber

1247
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:48,159
that was they were using to generate

1248
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,760
vibration and that that vibration would

1249
00:53:48,159 --> 00:53:53,358
go through the entire structure.

1250
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:55,520
>> Yes. And look, Joe, the last layer,

1251
00:53:53,358 --> 00:53:58,480
look, transmits

1252
00:53:55,519 --> 00:54:01,920
directly inside

1253
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:05,599
the the the so-called uh sarcophagus.

1254
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:07,760
That's not a sarcophagus there.

1255
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:10,160
>> And so what do you think that what they

1256
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,559
call a sarcophagus? This immense granite

1257
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:12,799
box.

1258
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:15,359
>> Yeah. Let's call it Yes. The gr the

1259
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:18,559
granite box. Yes. And then inside the

1260
00:54:15,358 --> 00:54:21,679
granic box

1261
00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:24,400
was done to contain a man a body. And

1262
00:54:21,679 --> 00:54:27,118
that vibration look

1263
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:29,519
collapses at the center of the granite

1264
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:30,960
box where the man was lying down.

1265
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:33,119
>> So do you think there was actually a man

1266
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,920
inside that? So a person would lay in

1267
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:34,559
that box.

1268
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,000
>> Yes.

1269
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:37,680
>> And what what happened to them?

1270
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,280
>> I don't know.

1271
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:40,879
>> Whoa.

1272
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,040
So

1273
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,720
>> I don't know. That's a simulation that I

1274
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:46,239
did, but it's precise.

1275
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,078
>> So, you don't think it's for a dead

1276
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,399
body? You think it's for a live body?

1277
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:50,800
>> Yes.

1278
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:53,680
>> And so, a person would lay there and

1279
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:56,000
have some probably incredibly profound

1280
00:54:53,679 --> 00:54:58,879
experience with whatever

1281
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:01,838
>> Probably. Yes.

1282
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:03,440
>> What do you think it was? Like, if you

1283
00:55:01,838 --> 00:55:05,679
just wanted to get crazy and put on the

1284
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:07,838
tinfoil hat and speculate, what do you

1285
00:55:05,679 --> 00:55:09,440
think it was?

1286
00:55:07,838 --> 00:55:11,119
I mean, what would happen to a person if

1287
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,440
they encountered this kind of vibration?

1288
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:18,440
these kind of frequencies and in this

1289
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:18,440
resonating granite box

1290
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:22,480
>> I can say something that is not

1291
00:55:20,639 --> 00:55:23,358
scientific uh recognizing.

1292
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,838
>> Yeah, that's what I want.

1293
00:55:23,358 --> 00:55:26,837
>> Yeah. [laughter]

1294
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,240
Maybe

1295
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,119
>> keep it up there. [laughter]

1296
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,039
>> What do you think?

1297
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:37,680
>> Maybe that person was ready to have an

1298
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:41,599
out of the body experience induced.

1299
00:55:37,679 --> 00:55:45,960
>> Oh, like a gateway.

1300
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:45,960
a gateway to the spirit world.

1301
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:52,880
Look at on the top you have the antenna.

1302
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:56,000
The antenna is recepting all the

1303
00:55:52,880 --> 00:56:00,559
vibrations that transmits

1304
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:02,960
all the signal below directly inside the

1305
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:05,200
granite box. It's very exciting.

1306
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:08,720
>> And what do you think was generating

1307
00:56:05,199 --> 00:56:11,039
these vibrations? Ah yes the natural the

1308
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:15,279
uh the wind the natural vibration

1309
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:17,119
vibration of the earth and also some uh

1310
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:20,160
let's say

1311
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:22,400
uh flowing the the the flowing of water

1312
00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:22,798
also the flowing of water and generated

1313
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,639
by

1314
00:56:22,798 --> 00:56:26,559
>> flowing water and then there was also

1315
00:56:24,639 --> 00:56:28,719
shafts that were this is part of

1316
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:30,559
Christopher Dunn's theory these shafts

1317
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:33,279
that reached the outside of space that

1318
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:34,400
he thinks were attracting space

1319
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,880
radiation

1320
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,838
>> can be Yeah, that's another possibility.

1321
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,720
>> Yes, another possibility.

1322
00:56:37,838 --> 00:56:42,880
>> He also had a a theory that perhaps the

1323
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,879
lower chamber that's below the the

1324
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:47,039
pyramid itself that there was some

1325
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,920
mechanical device inside of there that

1326
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:53,279
was generating vibration

1327
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:56,400
>> for this uh can be. Yes, can be. But we

1328
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:58,720
don't boom through the entire structure

1329
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,720
and this is creating this vibration.

1330
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,480
That's the antenna. You've got this

1331
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,239
filter through it and then someone is

1332
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,920
laying in the sarcophagus tripping

1333
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,759
balls. Yes. Is that

1334
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:10,000
>> Whoa.

1335
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:12,799
That's crazy.

1336
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:15,119
That's crazy.

1337
00:57:12,798 --> 00:57:17,280
Do you imagine if this entire structure

1338
00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:20,079
was just built so that someone could

1339
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:22,720
have some sort of a bizarre out-of- body

1340
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:24,079
experience or psychedelic gateway

1341
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:25,199
experience?

1342
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:27,119
>> I think that's true. I think it's

1343
00:57:25,199 --> 00:57:28,960
psychedelic Disney World. [laughter]

1344
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:30,240
>> I do. I seriously I had I had that

1345
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,280
epiphany like two months ago.

1346
00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:32,959
>> Really?

1347
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,798
>> I don't want to explain it, but yeah.

1348
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:37,280
Uh, I was look looking at a picture of

1349
00:57:34,798 --> 00:57:38,798
me when I was a kid at a like a Cedar

1350
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,559
Point, which is like roller coaster

1351
00:57:38,798 --> 00:57:44,159
place. I was just thinking of how much

1352
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:46,559
effort we put in to making kids or young

1353
00:57:44,159 --> 00:57:48,798
adults have a wild experience. Yeah.

1354
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:51,119
>> That is only

1355
00:57:48,798 --> 00:57:53,039
uh in reference, you only understand it

1356
00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:54,880
if you live there. If you found Disney

1357
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:57,433
World now in a thousand years, you'd be

1358
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,599
like, "What the [ __ ] They worship mice?

1359
00:57:57,434 --> 00:57:58,640
[laughter]

1360
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:00,160
>> What the [ __ ] are you talking about?

1361
00:57:58,639 --> 00:58:01,039
This is insane. Look at all the pictures

1362
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:02,558
of mice everywhere."

1363
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:04,000
>> That's so true. But you'd see that giant

1364
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:05,760
castle and there's rides everywhere and

1365
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,960
you you would have no idea what the

1366
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,319
experience of that ride would have been

1367
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,639
like or the teacups,

1368
00:58:08,318 --> 00:58:11,119
>> right?

1369
00:58:08,639 --> 00:58:14,879
>> It's nonsense. It's fun for kids,

1370
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:16,798
>> but also would make them feel

1371
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,640
amazing, but also adding what this

1372
00:58:16,798 --> 00:58:20,239
vibration stuff does and sound and music

1373
00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:21,440
and all these other things. You can put

1374
00:58:20,239 --> 00:58:22,719
them all together and be like you could

1375
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,200
feel like a god.

1376
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:24,719
>> Yeah.

1377
00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:26,879
>> If lightning hit the thing, you'd be

1378
00:58:24,719 --> 00:58:29,039
like, "What the I don't know." It's I

1379
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,798
just had that wild idea one day. It's an

1380
00:58:29,039 --> 00:58:32,960
interesting idea because if you think

1381
00:58:30,798 --> 00:58:36,159
people have always been fascinated by

1382
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:40,159
achieving novel experiences and what

1383
00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:43,039
more novel experience than a 2,300,000

1384
00:58:40,159 --> 00:58:44,639
stone structure that's perfectly aligned

1385
00:58:43,039 --> 00:58:46,960
to true north, south, east, and west

1386
00:58:44,639 --> 00:58:47,279
aligns to the stars of Orion's belt.

1387
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,599
>> Yes.

1388
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:53,119
>> You lie inside a stone box and the

1389
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:55,119
vibrations hit you and you're in that

1390
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:56,400
box.

1391
00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:58,318
more more

1392
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,400
>> and naturally you go out of the body.

1393
00:58:58,318 --> 00:59:02,079
>> What it who knows what it does to the

1394
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,680
body and the mind because we know that

1395
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:06,079
the mind is capable of producing

1396
00:59:03,679 --> 00:59:07,598
indogenous psychedelic chemicals. We

1397
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:09,519
also know that people have a very

1398
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:12,000
profound reaction to frequencies. That's

1399
00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:14,798
why sound hits us so hard and we love

1400
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,960
music and and just vibration itself and

1401
00:59:14,798 --> 00:59:20,318
and this sound weapon that they just

1402
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:23,519
recently used in Venezuela supposedly to

1403
00:59:20,318 --> 00:59:26,798
knock out all Maduro's troops. What what

1404
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:29,838
could this thing have been?

1405
00:59:26,798 --> 00:59:34,798
>> Yes. Um

1406
00:59:29,838 --> 00:59:40,960
I am relative that the the principal

1407
00:59:34,798 --> 00:59:46,719
actor of everything can be water

1408
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:49,599
uh vibrations. So sound sound

1409
00:59:46,719 --> 00:59:52,719
but we we are uh dealing now to the

1410
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:57,280
third uh a third thing. So the purpose

1411
00:59:52,719 --> 01:00:01,279
the exactly purpose of this maybe it can

1412
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:06,319
it can be also one more than one purpose

1413
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:09,760
no more than one scopus of the pyramids

1414
01:00:06,318 --> 01:00:13,039
the pyramids intended to be now we I am

1415
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:15,359
100% convinced that the pyramids uh can

1416
01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:17,199
be considered the tip of the iceberg of

1417
01:00:15,358 --> 01:00:22,000
something

1418
01:00:17,199 --> 01:00:25,519
uh con uh of something very uh huge BJ

1419
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:28,318
that is composed by things that are

1420
01:00:25,519 --> 01:00:31,679
below the earth and the pyramids that

1421
01:00:28,318 --> 01:00:34,079
are up at the surface of the earth.

1422
01:00:31,679 --> 01:00:36,639
>> So what do you think the reason for the

1423
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:39,280
design of the pyramid in that specific

1424
01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:42,239
geometric shape?

1425
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:47,440
Uh yes. Uh probably because they have to

1426
01:00:42,239 --> 01:00:51,759
resonate with the universe in in uh in

1427
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:53,519
uh in some uh

1428
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,280
in

1429
01:00:53,519 --> 01:00:58,000
they they have to resonate with the with

1430
01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:03,359
the universe. You know the the universe

1431
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:06,480
uh the universe uh uh jaw it is uh it is

1432
01:01:03,358 --> 01:01:10,000
not complicated. is simple

1433
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:12,639
because the universe is constituted by

1434
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:18,159
things the matter the particles the

1435
01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:20,239
light yes but everything is uh regulated

1436
01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:22,879
by some constants there are the

1437
01:01:20,239 --> 01:01:25,598
constants so the velocity the speed of

1438
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:31,039
the light c

1439
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:32,960
uh 3 * 10 to the 8 uh kilometers/s

1440
01:01:31,039 --> 01:01:34,880
then you have so the velocity of the

1441
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:37,358
light so you have the electric

1442
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,960
constants, the magnetic constants that

1443
01:01:37,358 --> 01:01:42,639
are

1444
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:46,400
uh that arranges very well the law of

1445
01:01:42,639 --> 01:01:51,358
the universe. So it is important that

1446
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:53,920
something that has to uh be well related

1447
01:01:51,358 --> 01:01:57,920
to the place that we live to the

1448
01:01:53,920 --> 01:02:02,480
universe has to contain very precisely

1449
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:05,039
the dimensions of uh recasting the

1450
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,559
constants of the universe

1451
01:02:05,039 --> 01:02:08,239
>> and that's what you think the pyramids

1452
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:11,599
did?

1453
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:14,000
>> Personally yes personally yes

1454
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:17,519
>> how old do you think they are?

1455
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:20,000
Yes. So yes on the sorry the the Italian

1456
01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:21,358
starts when [laughter]

1457
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:24,079
I start speaking Italian.

1458
01:02:21,358 --> 01:02:27,078
>> No it's okay. It's okay.

1459
01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:27,079
Erh

1460
01:02:29,039 --> 01:02:37,358
the thing that uh we can say for

1461
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:40,480
certainly is that the pyramids are older

1462
01:02:37,358 --> 01:02:45,838
than the dates that are written on the

1463
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:48,159
uh typical history books. So to see

1464
01:02:45,838 --> 01:02:51,358
something that to say something very

1465
01:02:48,159 --> 01:02:53,440
precisely we have to go back in time uh

1466
01:02:51,358 --> 01:02:56,960
into the zapi.

1467
01:02:53,440 --> 01:03:00,480
So more than 36

1468
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:06,079
thousands years ago something happened

1469
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:10,000
to the earth. So uh the zapi uh began

1470
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:13,039
and in a time belonging the zeppy and

1471
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:15,920
the great flood were built the pyramid

1472
01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:18,318
the pyramids.

1473
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:19,599
>> So like what I'm sending you something

1474
01:03:18,318 --> 01:03:22,079
Jamie that's very interesting.

1475
01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:23,760
>> Yes. Um, so

1476
01:03:22,079 --> 01:03:25,599
do you have an idea? Do you do you have

1477
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,559
an estimation like what what is your

1478
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:28,720
personal belief?

1479
01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:31,839
>> Yes.

1480
01:03:28,719 --> 01:03:33,759
We can't say exactly the year.

1481
01:03:31,838 --> 01:03:36,558
>> So Zepti, let's let's explain to people

1482
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:39,440
what that is since we're I sometimes

1483
01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:42,160
forget. Zepy is the thing that I

1484
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,760
described to Zahi Has and he dismissed

1485
01:03:42,159 --> 01:03:45,679
it. But there's this I've never heard of

1486
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,799
this.

1487
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:47,199
>> It's [clears throat] an ancient kings

1488
01:03:46,798 --> 01:03:49,280
list.

1489
01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:52,960
>> Yeah. And it's a list of pharaohs that

1490
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:55,280
goes back past 30,000 years. Yes. And um

1491
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:57,679
it's very inconvenient for modern

1492
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:59,039
academics. And so they like to portray

1493
01:03:57,679 --> 01:04:02,159
it as myth.

1494
01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:05,359
>> And then when it gets to the age of

1495
01:04:02,159 --> 01:04:08,078
historically accurate pharaohs that we

1496
01:04:05,358 --> 01:04:10,960
know of, Kufu and Cafrey, then they

1497
01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:12,720
allow those hieroglyphs. Yes.

1498
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,639
>> But when you get all the way back to the

1499
01:04:12,719 --> 01:04:16,078
30,000 years ago, they like to say that

1500
01:04:14,639 --> 01:04:17,598
that's just mythology.

1501
01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:21,280
>> Yes, it's true.

1502
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:24,280
But it is a matter of fact that Zep we

1503
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,280
have

1504
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:29,680
we have also other ancient megalytics

1505
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:32,079
that are very old recognized very old.

1506
01:04:29,679 --> 01:04:34,239
So we have to deal with that.

1507
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:35,440
>> Well go back

1508
01:04:34,239 --> 01:04:37,919
is a big problem also

1509
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,400
>> but more than 11,000 years old for sure.

1510
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,039
>> Yeah.

1511
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,960
>> Yeah.

1512
01:04:39,039 --> 01:04:42,884
>> And as we saw

1513
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,000
>> here it is. This is something that um

1514
01:04:42,884 --> 01:04:46,159
[clears throat] um I actually just

1515
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,838
talked to Graham Hancock about. This is

1516
01:04:46,159 --> 01:04:49,679
Stella is a limestone inscription

1517
01:04:47,838 --> 01:04:51,440
discovered in 1858 near the great

1518
01:04:49,679 --> 01:04:54,239
pyramid complex of Giza. And the text

1519
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:59,280
describes a pharaoh kufu who ruled from

1520
01:04:54,239 --> 01:05:02,239
2589 to 2566 BC visiting the site and

1521
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:04,798
ordering restorations to existing

1522
01:05:02,239 --> 01:05:06,798
structures including a temple associated

1523
01:05:04,798 --> 01:05:09,358
with the goddess Isis. The stellar

1524
01:05:06,798 --> 01:05:11,280
refers to Isis as the mistress of the

1525
01:05:09,358 --> 01:05:12,558
pyramid, a title that has raised

1526
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,119
questions about whether parts of the

1527
01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:17,680
Giza plateau were already considered

1528
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:19,599
sacred before Kufu's reign. And although

1529
01:05:17,679 --> 01:05:22,318
most Egyptologists date the Stella

1530
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:25,599
itself to the 26th dynasty, more than

1531
01:05:22,318 --> 01:05:27,279
2,000 years after Kufu, its wording

1532
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:30,160
continues to draw attention because it

1533
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:32,640
portrays the pharaoh as a restorer

1534
01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:34,078
rather than the original builder.

1535
01:05:32,639 --> 01:05:35,759
Whether inscription provides older

1536
01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:38,079
tradition or reflects later religious

1537
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:42,400
interpretation remains debated. But if

1538
01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:44,720
this is accurate, this describes Kufu as

1539
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:49,280
restoring the pyramid. Yeah.

1540
01:05:44,719 --> 01:05:52,239
>> Now this exists throughout history. Um

1541
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:54,960
the temple of Tinoitlan

1542
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:56,879
uh where the Aztecs had when when they

1543
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:59,039
described it, they described it as the

1544
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:01,440
place where the gods were born. Yeah.

1545
01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:03,760
>> And they found it. Like people think the

1546
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,079
Aztecs made the pyramids. They did not.

1547
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,559
>> No,

1548
01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:09,200
>> they there was some sort of a previous

1549
01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:10,720
civilization that lived in Mexico prior

1550
01:06:09,199 --> 01:06:12,879
to the people that called themselves the

1551
01:06:10,719 --> 01:06:14,959
Aztecs or what we call the Aztecs and

1552
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:19,119
they built. So there's a longstanding

1553
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:20,880
history of people repurposing existing

1554
01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:23,358
structures and claiming them as their

1555
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,880
own. And if this Stella is accurate and

1556
01:06:23,358 --> 01:06:28,400
this was also in Fingerprints of the

1557
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:30,720
Gods, Graham Hancock's book. Um, so I I

1558
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,960
sent this to Graham and his reaction was

1559
01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:36,959
pretty interesting. What he said

1560
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:38,480
>> to me was that um there's a strong

1561
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:41,039
suggestion that the Kufu pyramid might

1562
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,798
have been one of the three subsidiary

1563
01:06:41,039 --> 01:06:44,880
structures alongside the Great Pyramid's

1564
01:06:42,798 --> 01:06:47,280
eastern flank and all that looked like

1565
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:49,519
damaging e evidence against the orthodox

1566
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,119
chronology of ancient Egypt. It also

1567
01:06:49,519 --> 01:06:54,239
challenged the consensus view that the

1568
01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:58,798
Giza pyramids had been built as tombs

1569
01:06:54,239 --> 01:07:02,239
and only as tombs. Uh however s uh uh

1570
01:06:58,798 --> 01:07:05,358
rather than investigating the statements

1571
01:07:02,239 --> 01:07:07,759
u from the stella the Egypt childiffs ch

1572
01:07:05,358 --> 01:07:09,920
uh they chose to devalue them in his his

1573
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:10,960
quotes they chose to say h that's just

1574
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,960
inconvenient

1575
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:17,440
>> but if it's if they are describing it

1576
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:20,000
that way that that seems like this is a

1577
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:24,559
longstanding tradition of people finding

1578
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:26,880
things that exist. the earth's clearly

1579
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:29,440
eg ancient Egypt itself, dynastic Egypt

1580
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:32,079
is a very complex society, very complex

1581
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:34,318
and very advanced society, even if they

1582
01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:36,318
didn't build that stuff. But it seems

1583
01:07:34,318 --> 01:07:41,199
like they're saying the restore.

1584
01:07:36,318 --> 01:07:45,279
>> Yes. Yes. I I agree with you, Joe. Um

1585
01:07:41,199 --> 01:07:47,759
I tell you uh there are um some facts

1586
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:50,480
that we have to observe because I am

1587
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:53,520
used to observe

1588
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:55,440
before I I have I I say something I have

1589
01:07:53,519 --> 01:08:00,400
to observe.

1590
01:07:55,440 --> 01:08:02,639
So I am not um how you say an expert of

1591
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:05,039
pyramids because I am an engineer. I

1592
01:08:02,639 --> 01:08:08,558
work on satellites. I am a space

1593
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:10,480
engineer. I'm I'm not a

1594
01:08:08,559 --> 01:08:15,720
an Egyptologist

1595
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:15,719
like that, but I can observe

1596
01:08:15,838 --> 01:08:24,679
in inside the pyramids

1597
01:08:19,838 --> 01:08:24,679
they found a lot of salt

1598
01:08:25,838 --> 01:08:32,238
that were uh attached on the walls. So

1599
01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:34,798
they find the salt. Why there is why

1600
01:08:32,238 --> 01:08:37,838
there was salt there?

1601
01:08:34,798 --> 01:08:40,880
First, second,

1602
01:08:37,838 --> 01:08:43,119
the shafts that we are dealing now, if

1603
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:48,039
we want to clean the shafts, why there

1604
01:08:43,119 --> 01:08:48,039
is debris? Why they are tapped?

1605
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:56,880
No. So,

1606
01:08:51,920 --> 01:09:01,119
if the great flood is a an historical uh

1607
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:04,239
parameter, recognize it. So let's say uh

1608
01:09:01,119 --> 01:09:05,759
11 11,000 12,000 years ago let's say

1609
01:09:04,238 --> 01:09:08,718
something like that I don't remember

1610
01:09:05,759 --> 01:09:13,920
precisely the zeppi which is not

1611
01:09:08,719 --> 01:09:17,920
recognized is 36,000 in the past so

1612
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:20,319
between the zepi and the great flood

1613
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:22,960
we can locate the pyramids and the

1614
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:26,080
sphinx.

1615
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:28,880
Wow. So the great flood we're looking at

1616
01:09:26,079 --> 01:09:31,359
11,000 plus years ago. Zepte you're

1617
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:35,359
looking at 30,000 plus years ago.

1618
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:38,719
>> Yes, we can say I'm an engineer. I am I

1619
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:42,000
I put myself in the center between 30

1620
01:09:38,719 --> 01:09:45,198
36,000 and 11,000. See if you can find

1621
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:47,520
some images of salt in the in the great

1622
01:09:45,198 --> 01:09:50,960
pyramids because it it is quite

1623
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:54,640
fascinating and if there was some sort

1624
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:57,439
of a massive rise of sea and massive

1625
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:59,360
flooding which is depicted in every

1626
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:02,799
single ancient religion. Yes.

1627
01:09:59,359 --> 01:10:05,119
>> From epic of Gilgamesh to the Hopi talk

1628
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,960
about it. I mean it's like almost all

1629
01:10:05,119 --> 01:10:09,198
cultures have a story. Obviously Noah

1630
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:12,319
and the ark and the flood in the Bible,

1631
01:10:09,198 --> 01:10:14,960
but this salt

1632
01:10:12,319 --> 01:10:17,679
>> Joe two months ago I went for the first

1633
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:22,158
time to visit the pyramids and I found

1634
01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:24,000
salt on the wall. There is still salt.

1635
01:10:22,158 --> 01:10:24,479
>> And you think that salt is probably

1636
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,840
because

1637
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:28,479
>> I taste it is of water of uh the sea.

1638
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:32,079
>> Wow.

1639
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:34,718
>> Yes. I forgot to to to to bring it to

1640
01:10:32,079 --> 01:10:37,039
you. Not just that, but there's so much

1641
01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:39,119
salt that there's still salt there

1642
01:10:37,039 --> 01:10:41,600
11,000 years later,

1643
01:10:39,119 --> 01:10:43,439
>> which is really extraordinary.

1644
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,679
>> And so you think that that salt is

1645
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,960
because the entire area was flooded. And

1646
01:10:45,679 --> 01:10:48,800
that's the reason why the shafts were

1647
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,600
flooded and filled with debris. Yes.

1648
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:53,360
>> Right. Topped off with debris cuz

1649
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,280
everything just flooded into there. And

1650
01:10:53,359 --> 01:10:57,519
then when the sea receded,

1651
01:10:55,279 --> 01:10:58,559
>> you're so many years later, you're left

1652
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,600
with salt everywhere.

1653
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:04,640
>> Yeah. And that's why uh the reason that

1654
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:06,880
uh I don't want that people goes to work

1655
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:10,079
inside the shaft because are dangerous

1656
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:12,319
can collapse the the the

1657
01:11:10,079 --> 01:11:15,279
debris can collapse because you can have

1658
01:11:12,319 --> 01:11:16,079
bubble of of of air and so it's

1659
01:11:15,279 --> 01:11:16,880
dangerous

1660
01:11:16,079 --> 01:11:18,079
>> right right

1661
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,400
>> robots has to go

1662
01:11:18,079 --> 01:11:22,158
>> right well it makes more sense robots

1663
01:11:20,399 --> 01:11:23,839
are safer and it's also like you

1664
01:11:22,158 --> 01:11:26,799
>> so everything is connected the great

1665
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:29,279
flood the zeppy and the pyramids

1666
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,320
>> wow if that turns out convinced with

1667
01:11:29,279 --> 01:11:32,479
that

1668
01:11:30,319 --> 01:11:36,319
>> I I am convinced

1669
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:39,198
>> that maybe 18 I I go in the center 18

1670
01:11:36,319 --> 01:11:41,198
18,000 or something like that. 20

1671
01:11:39,198 --> 01:11:43,279
between 18,000 and 20,000.

1672
01:11:41,198 --> 01:11:46,639
>> Well, what's crazy is I mean that pushes

1673
01:11:43,279 --> 01:11:46,960
back that ancient civilization by 14,000

1674
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:47,600
years.

1675
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,000
>> Yeah.

1676
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:52,079
>> Which is at least 14,000 years. I mean

1677
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:54,399
John Anthony West thought maybe 30,000

1678
01:11:52,079 --> 01:11:56,399
plus years to the construction of the

1679
01:11:54,399 --> 01:11:58,879
Sphinx. That's what he thought. And when

1680
01:11:56,399 --> 01:12:01,519
Robert Shock from Boston University, the

1681
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:04,480
geologist that started doing work on the

1682
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:05,679
the the pyramid and then excuse me, the

1683
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,319
um temple of the Sphinx.

1684
01:12:05,679 --> 01:12:07,920
>> The Sphinx. Yes.

1685
01:12:06,319 --> 01:12:08,399
>> Yeah. And the water erosion. He's like,

1686
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,279
"This is

1687
01:12:08,399 --> 01:12:11,439
>> it's vertical."

1688
01:12:09,279 --> 01:12:13,679
>> Yes. It's vertical fissures that come

1689
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,359
from thousands of years of rainfall. And

1690
01:12:13,679 --> 01:12:16,960
the last time there was like significant

1691
01:12:15,359 --> 01:12:18,238
rainfall in the Nile Valley like that

1692
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,560
was 9,000 years ago.

1693
01:12:18,238 --> 01:12:20,238
>> Yeah.

1694
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:23,679
>> So you're dealing with thousands of

1695
01:12:20,238 --> 01:12:25,759
years before that of rain to achieve

1696
01:12:23,679 --> 01:12:29,279
that kind of erosion. Yes, it is

1697
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:32,079
necessary now when that's why this

1698
01:12:29,279 --> 01:12:35,039
research and this activity that hope we

1699
01:12:32,079 --> 01:12:38,000
will do it is very important.

1700
01:12:35,039 --> 01:12:41,439
>> Yeah, because this it is able to rewrite

1701
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:43,840
everything it mean rewrite everything.

1702
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:47,198
Imagine if you could get something from

1703
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:50,000
down in those shafts in those corridors

1704
01:12:47,198 --> 01:12:50,399
something that you could date.

1705
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,439
>> Yeah.

1706
01:12:50,399 --> 01:12:55,599
>> And you get a date back of 26,000 BC.

1707
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:58,079
you go what

1708
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,920
you know I mean this is it's not outside

1709
01:12:58,079 --> 01:13:01,679
of the realm of possibility that's

1710
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:03,920
what's so crazy about this it just

1711
01:13:01,679 --> 01:13:07,119
really does seem like we are getting

1712
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:11,199
more and more evidence that things are

1713
01:13:07,119 --> 01:13:13,119
far older than conventional wisdom than

1714
01:13:11,198 --> 01:13:15,279
conventional the conventional narrative

1715
01:13:13,119 --> 01:13:17,599
that's taught in schools

1716
01:13:15,279 --> 01:13:21,039
>> yes I agree

1717
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:25,039
I agree because uh as I told you before

1718
01:13:21,039 --> 01:13:28,560
this is time this is the time to to see

1719
01:13:25,039 --> 01:13:31,840
effective what we which is the exact

1720
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:33,199
date of construction who made them and

1721
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,880
how they made them.

1722
01:13:33,198 --> 01:13:37,279
>> But how could we figure out how they

1723
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,880
made it? That's the crazy thing, right?

1724
01:13:37,279 --> 01:13:40,960
Because we don't even understand the

1725
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,279
technology they used to cut them.

1726
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,520
>> Yeah.

1727
01:13:41,279 --> 01:13:44,880
>> We don't know what they had. And that's

1728
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,040
the other thing. If you're dealing with

1729
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:49,359
something that's 20,000 plus years old,

1730
01:13:47,039 --> 01:13:52,079
15,000 years old, what's going to be

1731
01:13:49,359 --> 01:13:54,639
left? All the metal's gone. Everything

1732
01:13:52,079 --> 01:13:56,640
is eroded. The earth is reclaimed. Most

1733
01:13:54,640 --> 01:14:00,560
things really the thing that you have

1734
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:04,880
left is stone which is pretty crazy.

1735
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:06,960
>> Yeah. And uh if we see uh the the rooms

1736
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:09,440
all the structures that are currently

1737
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:11,198
inside let's say the the chaops pyramid

1738
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:14,639
which I I like it a lot. The grand

1739
01:14:11,198 --> 01:14:16,639
gallery is very nice fascinating.

1740
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:20,719
They have a precision incredible

1741
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:23,039
precision. All those big huge stones

1742
01:14:20,719 --> 01:14:25,920
that com that is composing the grand

1743
01:14:23,039 --> 01:14:27,279
gallery is very exciting. I like it a

1744
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:31,440
lot.

1745
01:14:27,279 --> 01:14:34,880
>> Did you have uh any sort of fascination

1746
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:37,039
about the pyramids before this or

1747
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:40,239
>> Joe? I remember when I was young, very

1748
01:14:37,039 --> 01:14:44,560
young, I used to

1749
01:14:40,238 --> 01:14:48,238
uh I had um uh it

1750
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:51,280
uh how you say, I had um a a personal

1751
01:14:48,238 --> 01:14:55,599
computer, very old one, and I was always

1752
01:14:51,279 --> 01:14:57,759
playing always on um on something that

1753
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,679
uh

1754
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:03,440
and there was the pyramids. They were

1755
01:14:59,679 --> 01:15:07,119
always the pyramids. And there in that

1756
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:10,559
meantime I I realized that I liked the

1757
01:15:07,119 --> 01:15:12,559
pyramids and so I I was very young.

1758
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,000
>> So the personal beauty just researching

1759
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,760
the pyramids is that what it was like

1760
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,800
what do you say just looking at pictures

1761
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,320
and images?

1762
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,840
>> Yes. Yes. On the pyramids.

1763
01:15:18,319 --> 01:15:22,799
>> So you always were fascinated by but did

1764
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:24,480
you have an understanding or even uh any

1765
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,840
questions about the timeline of

1766
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,479
civilization before this?

1767
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,159
>> No. Never.

1768
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,479
>> So it only happened within the last few

1769
01:15:28,158 --> 01:15:34,000
years.

1770
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:36,639
>> Yes. Yes. Erh I began uh I began uh

1771
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:40,640
working uh so uh being interested on

1772
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:42,960
pyramids uh starting from 2018.

1773
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,239
>> So it was right after you started

1774
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,840
>> doing this research. Yes.

1775
01:15:44,238 --> 01:15:46,959
>> And you started saying okay what is

1776
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,920
this?

1777
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:55,279
>> Yeah. And so when you start to to

1778
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:58,158
research on something that that is uh

1779
01:15:55,279 --> 01:16:01,599
our history, our past, our origins

1780
01:15:58,158 --> 01:16:04,479
because we our origins are there. So we

1781
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:08,960
have to fetch we have to find what there

1782
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:12,158
is there because it is important that uh

1783
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:16,960
we uh it is important to research our

1784
01:16:12,158 --> 01:16:20,000
origin because in this meantime humanity

1785
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:23,679
does not know we don't know who we are.

1786
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:27,600
We don't know our origins. We don't know

1787
01:16:23,679 --> 01:16:31,679
anything of of who we are. And the most

1788
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:33,440
of the answers can be found in the um

1789
01:16:31,679 --> 01:16:35,119
studying the pyramids.

1790
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:37,119
>> Well, it certainly seems to be the

1791
01:16:35,119 --> 01:16:38,640
greatest accomplishment that ancient

1792
01:16:37,119 --> 01:16:39,599
humans had ever created.

1793
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,000
>> Yes.

1794
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:44,880
>> And if these humans were far more

1795
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:47,119
ancient than we currently believe, that

1796
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:51,119
is really really interesting.

1797
01:16:47,119 --> 01:16:53,119
>> Yeah. And uh it is for me very it it is

1798
01:16:51,119 --> 01:16:54,880
something that I have it always in my

1799
01:16:53,119 --> 01:16:57,679
mind

1800
01:16:54,880 --> 01:17:00,719
only to know how they did how they cut

1801
01:16:57,679 --> 01:17:03,199
the stones how they have transported the

1802
01:17:00,719 --> 01:17:06,480
stones and how I don't know how how how

1803
01:17:03,198 --> 01:17:08,719
everything how how like what gave them

1804
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:10,399
the idea like were there any

1805
01:17:08,719 --> 01:17:13,520
>> previous pyramids cuz it's weird because

1806
01:17:10,399 --> 01:17:14,639
the older you go the more complex the

1807
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:17,040
structures are

1808
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,360
>> and the newer ones are kind of shitty.

1809
01:17:17,039 --> 01:17:19,119
Yes.

1810
01:17:17,359 --> 01:17:21,759
>> Yeah.

1811
01:17:19,119 --> 01:17:24,399
>> So, okay. So, we went from that we

1812
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:26,079
showed this antenna and it goes into the

1813
01:17:24,399 --> 01:17:27,920
supposed sarcophagus and these

1814
01:17:26,079 --> 01:17:29,679
vibrations. What other things do you

1815
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:33,199
show in your presentation that are

1816
01:17:29,679 --> 01:17:35,520
interesting? Uh I um I showed

1817
01:17:33,198 --> 01:17:38,158
principally all the structures that are

1818
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:40,960
uh that are uh under the the Cafra

1819
01:17:38,158 --> 01:17:46,000
pyramid and also under each pyramids.

1820
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:50,880
And uh also I described the uh method uh

1821
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:54,158
uh on how going

1822
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:57,920
below without drilling anything. And so

1823
01:17:54,158 --> 01:18:00,719
I uh showed them I showed them that

1824
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:04,960
there are the entrances are there on our

1825
01:18:00,719 --> 01:18:07,520
eyes. Everyone can see those uh those

1826
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:10,480
shafts. And so why we we we are not

1827
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:14,719
exploring them? Why they are so dirty?

1828
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:17,759
Why they are so without uh any kind of

1829
01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:19,520
work of renew methods? Yeah.

1830
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:21,039
>> I don't know why.

1831
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:25,280
>> Well, it seems like there's limited

1832
01:18:21,039 --> 01:18:28,880
resources first of all. BS. And also it

1833
01:18:25,279 --> 01:18:31,519
seems like Egypt an entire

1834
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,960
>> economy is based on tourism. An immense

1835
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,719
amount of tourism because it's so

1836
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,920
fantastic. There's people from all over

1837
01:18:34,719 --> 01:18:40,480
the world make a pilgrimage.

1838
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:45,199
>> I I also I also I also find uh a method

1839
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:47,039
to uh combine so not stopping the the

1840
01:18:45,198 --> 01:18:49,678
tourism. No. So it is possible to

1841
01:18:47,039 --> 01:18:52,719
combine the work and also the tourism.

1842
01:18:49,679 --> 01:18:56,000
So we can delimitate the area inside the

1843
01:18:52,719 --> 01:18:58,880
area we work and outside the area safety

1844
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:00,560
all the people can visit the py the Jes

1845
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:03,279
not only that I think it will enhance

1846
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:05,360
tourism because if this speculation

1847
01:19:03,279 --> 01:19:06,960
proves to be fruitful and you start

1848
01:19:05,359 --> 01:19:09,039
looking under there and you find that

1849
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,239
there there is evidence to all this it's

1850
01:19:09,039 --> 01:19:13,359
just going to make more people want to

1851
01:19:10,238 --> 01:19:15,519
go. Yes, I I agree with you. But you

1852
01:19:13,359 --> 01:19:17,599
imagine, Joe,

1853
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:20,480
we will find

1854
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:24,000
the structures that are underneath. No.

1855
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:27,039
And maybe we can try to build a huge uh

1856
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:30,399
lift that carry people downstairs in

1857
01:19:27,039 --> 01:19:33,198
safety always. Or maybe not below for a

1858
01:19:30,399 --> 01:19:36,799
lot, but at a certain at a certain

1859
01:19:33,198 --> 01:19:39,198
depth. So they can also travel along the

1860
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:42,079
horizontal corridors that are present.

1861
01:19:39,198 --> 01:19:46,238
And so they go up from the shafts and

1862
01:19:42,079 --> 01:19:48,880
they they go they they they go up from

1863
01:19:46,238 --> 01:19:51,839
uh to the Cafrey pyramid and they go

1864
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:55,039
away from so the entrance here and they

1865
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:56,480
and they go

1866
01:19:55,039 --> 01:19:57,840
intercepting the pyramids.

1867
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,359
>> That would be amazing.

1868
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,000
>> Yeah. I mean it would just be much more

1869
01:19:59,359 --> 01:20:00,479
tourism.

1870
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,279
>> Yes.

1871
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:05,039
>> Yeah. And also the all eyes would be on

1872
01:20:03,279 --> 01:20:07,439
Egypt. I mean it would probably be a

1873
01:20:05,039 --> 01:20:11,198
huge boost to their economy. It would

1874
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:12,559
probably be a huge boost to archaeology

1875
01:20:11,198 --> 01:20:14,399
because more young people would get

1876
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:17,600
fascinated by it, want to study it.

1877
01:20:14,399 --> 01:20:21,439
>> Yeah. And and imagine imagine also this.

1878
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:24,320
What can we find below

1879
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:26,559
down there? What can what can we find?

1880
01:20:24,319 --> 01:20:29,840
This is a question that I am asking

1881
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:32,320
because if we watch the the the the

1882
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:34,800
slide concerning the shaft that I want

1883
01:20:32,319 --> 01:20:39,119
to that I want to clean, there are

1884
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:41,760
things inside it. It I am showing that

1885
01:20:39,119 --> 01:20:45,359
that that there are things located

1886
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:46,480
inside the uh chamber. Look, there is

1887
01:20:45,359 --> 01:20:47,439
something.

1888
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,718
>> What What is that?

1889
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,759
>> What are you seeing when you we're

1890
01:20:48,719 --> 01:20:51,198
talking about the shaft where it goes

1891
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,400
all the way down to the bottom and

1892
01:20:51,198 --> 01:20:55,359
there's a chamber. Is that what you

1893
01:20:52,399 --> 01:20:57,839
mean? That one. Yes.

1894
01:20:55,359 --> 01:20:58,719
>> Right there. So that structure that is

1895
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,960
at the bottom.

1896
01:20:58,719 --> 01:21:02,158
>> What's that? I don't know. Was that

1897
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,319
>> right?

1898
01:21:02,158 --> 01:21:06,158
>> It's very huge.

1899
01:21:04,319 --> 01:21:08,238
>> Very huge. And it's at the bottom of the

1900
01:21:06,158 --> 01:21:08,639
shaft.

1901
01:21:08,238 --> 01:21:10,879
>> Yeah.

1902
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:12,960
>> Look the horizontal corridors.

1903
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:15,119
>> Mhm.

1904
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:18,000
And so there's more horizontal cor

1905
01:21:15,119 --> 01:21:20,559
corridors during the when you traverse

1906
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,840
down into the shaft. Then you there's

1907
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:24,480
you intercept

1908
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,360
>> right other corridors. And how large are

1909
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,399
those corridors?

1910
01:21:25,359 --> 01:21:30,799
>> By about 3 m tall.

1911
01:21:28,399 --> 01:21:32,479
>> So there's three So there's these 3 m

1912
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,480
tall shafts

1913
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,519
>> that go to the side. These corridors

1914
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,158
that go to the side.

1915
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,880
>> Yes.

1916
01:21:36,158 --> 01:21:39,599
>> Along the way and then also down at the

1917
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,199
very bottom.

1918
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,120
>> Yes.

1919
01:21:41,198 --> 01:21:45,439
>> And you're convinced of this. This is

1920
01:21:43,119 --> 01:21:47,359
all data, right?

1921
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:49,279
Um,

1922
01:21:47,359 --> 01:21:50,319
>> and no one has ever sent a camera down

1923
01:21:49,279 --> 01:21:53,599
there or anything.

1924
01:21:50,319 --> 01:21:56,960
>> Those are human man-made structure like

1925
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,360
uh a ring on another ring.

1926
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,158
>> Mhm.

1927
01:21:57,359 --> 01:22:02,079
>> Look, it is it is very clear, right? If

1928
01:22:00,158 --> 01:22:04,399
you observe the structure, those are man

1929
01:22:02,079 --> 01:22:06,639
man-made and they go deep, very deep.

1930
01:22:04,399 --> 01:22:07,279
And you can see the rubbish that is uh

1931
01:22:06,639 --> 01:22:08,159
on the bottom.

1932
01:22:07,279 --> 01:22:08,639
>> All the debris.

1933
01:22:08,158 --> 01:22:10,879
>> The debris.

1934
01:22:08,639 --> 01:22:14,400
>> And that debris you think was a lot of

1935
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:18,880
it because of the flood. I am 100% sure

1936
01:22:14,399 --> 01:22:22,399
of this. Yeah. So the pyramids or the

1937
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:25,359
Giza plateau it seems to stop the

1938
01:22:22,399 --> 01:22:27,839
functionality the the

1939
01:22:25,359 --> 01:22:29,359
working. We don't know which kind of

1940
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:33,360
work

1941
01:22:29,359 --> 01:22:36,799
uh were used to do but stopped because

1942
01:22:33,359 --> 01:22:40,399
of the great flood. So we can go back in

1943
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:42,480
time in uh 12,000 years ago. And when

1944
01:22:40,399 --> 01:22:43,759
people's the people that don't know if

1945
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,759
you're hearing this like what great

1946
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,840
flood that's just not that's just myth.

1947
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,760
There's a thing called the younger dus

1948
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,440
impact theory and the younger dry impact

1949
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:54,960
theory group that's been studying this

1950
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:57,919
they now know that there was impacts to

1951
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:59,520
the earth that are allowed around the

1952
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,119
11,800

1953
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:04,000
year mark and then I believe I believe

1954
01:23:01,119 --> 01:23:05,599
again in the 10,000year range. Uh Randle

1955
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:09,279
Carlson is probably the best guy to talk

1956
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:11,360
to about that, but that they find high

1957
01:23:09,279 --> 01:23:13,840
levels of aridium, which is very common

1958
01:23:11,359 --> 01:23:16,158
in space and very rare on Earth, but

1959
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:19,840
there's a layer of it. They also find

1960
01:23:16,158 --> 01:23:21,439
these nano diamonds uh that they also

1961
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,960
discovered during the first Trinity

1962
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:25,519
explosion when they detonated the atomic

1963
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:27,198
bomb. They find these microscopic glass

1964
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:29,440
particles that are created by the

1965
01:23:27,198 --> 01:23:32,559
intense explosion interacting with the

1966
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:35,119
sand. So what is it called? Trinitite

1967
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:35,920
trit is that what it's called? What are

1968
01:23:35,119 --> 01:23:37,760
those?

1969
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:39,760
>> Nuclear glass. What is that called?

1970
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:42,000
Tritonite. Is that what it's called?

1971
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:43,119
>> Some uh some something related to

1972
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,520
vitrification.

1973
01:23:43,119 --> 01:23:44,000
>> Yes.

1974
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:47,520
>> Okay.

1975
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:49,119
>> So, this exists all over the world. And

1976
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:51,360
it exists all over the world when they

1977
01:23:49,119 --> 01:23:51,679
do a core sample at the same depth.

1978
01:23:51,359 --> 01:23:54,399
Yeah.

1979
01:23:51,679 --> 01:23:55,920
>> And so this is a very strong scientific

1980
01:23:54,399 --> 01:23:56,319
indicator of evidence that we've been

1981
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:56,800
hit.

1982
01:23:56,319 --> 01:23:57,119
>> Yes.

1983
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,360
>> Yeah.

1984
01:23:57,119 --> 01:24:00,960
>> But another scientific indicator is the

1985
01:23:59,359 --> 01:24:02,158
debris. Why there is that debris there?

1986
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,800
>> Right? Why so much?

1987
01:24:02,158 --> 01:24:03,839
>> So much,

1988
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:06,960
>> right? Why so much?

1989
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:09,360
>> If if we do carrotage drilling of that

1990
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:12,399
debris inside the shaft, I don't know

1991
01:24:09,359 --> 01:24:14,559
how how how deep we can go. So why there

1992
01:24:12,399 --> 01:24:15,359
is all the all that debris there?

1993
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,520
>> We don't know,

1994
01:24:15,359 --> 01:24:19,439
>> right? But which makes sense if there is

1995
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,880
a great flood that fills the pyramid

1996
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:23,039
with salt water. Yes.

1997
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:25,760
>> That it probably washed all that sand

1998
01:24:23,039 --> 01:24:26,158
into that gigantic vertical shaft.

1999
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,199
>> Yeah.

2000
01:24:26,158 --> 01:24:30,719
>> Completely makes sense.

2001
01:24:27,198 --> 01:24:33,359
>> Yeah. And I tell you, Joe, we if we do

2002
01:24:30,719 --> 01:24:36,800
the chemical chemical a chemical

2003
01:24:33,359 --> 01:24:40,319
exploration of that debris, we can find

2004
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:43,360
also a certain density of salt because

2005
01:24:40,319 --> 01:24:46,238
were mixed in the past by salty water

2006
01:24:43,359 --> 01:24:48,238
and debris and soil also.

2007
01:24:46,238 --> 01:24:50,718
>> Also, you could get dirt from the very

2008
01:24:48,238 --> 01:24:53,759
bottom. Yeah. And get some sort of

2009
01:24:50,719 --> 01:24:55,119
organic material and carbonate that. And

2010
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:57,679
maybe you can get an understanding of

2011
01:24:55,119 --> 01:24:59,279
like maybe when stuff was washed down to

2012
01:24:57,679 --> 01:25:01,199
the bottom of that shaft.

2013
01:24:59,279 --> 01:25:02,719
>> Very interesting. Yeah. Yes, it's

2014
01:25:01,198 --> 01:25:04,879
possible. Can be possible.

2015
01:25:02,719 --> 01:25:06,639
>> Crazy if they did that and it lines up

2016
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:09,520
directly with the younger gi impact

2017
01:25:06,639 --> 01:25:10,960
theory. I mean, that would be incredible

2018
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:14,320
evidence.

2019
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:16,239
>> Either way, just what it is that we know

2020
01:25:14,319 --> 01:25:18,319
that there's immense shafts. We know

2021
01:25:16,238 --> 01:25:20,000
that they go many, many meters deep into

2022
01:25:18,319 --> 01:25:22,960
the earth. And we know that there's

2023
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:24,880
these horizontal shafts along the way.

2024
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:29,079
Hey, these corridors along the way, like

2025
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:29,079
all of it is just nuts.

2026
01:25:29,198 --> 01:25:32,238
>> We [laughter]

2027
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:34,638
saw I was looking at the Osiris shaft

2028
01:25:32,238 --> 01:25:35,279
here. Um the shaft.

2029
01:25:34,639 --> 01:25:35,679
>> Mhm.

2030
01:25:35,279 --> 01:25:38,238
>> Okay.

2031
01:25:35,679 --> 01:25:39,679
>> Just near these other ones. Uh when they

2032
01:25:38,238 --> 01:25:42,238
found it, there was water down there.

2033
01:25:39,679 --> 01:25:45,600
They had to get out. And the water is

2034
01:25:42,238 --> 01:25:47,279
not only cold, ice cold. It says it's

2035
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,920
clean enough to be drinking water.

2036
01:25:47,279 --> 01:25:49,920
>> Whoa.

2037
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:51,920
>> And I don't know that it doesn't It

2038
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:54,319
sounded like it refills itself. Oh, so

2039
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:56,800
there's a spring down there. Well, that

2040
01:25:54,319 --> 01:25:59,279
is also the problem with the labyrinth.

2041
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:02,320
So, the labyrinth that they have where

2042
01:25:59,279 --> 01:26:04,238
there's this enormous atrium and this 40

2043
01:26:02,319 --> 01:26:05,439
m long metallic object that apparently

2044
01:26:04,238 --> 01:26:06,799
is underneath there. And this is through

2045
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,559
ground penetrating radar that they

2046
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:10,560
discover this. I don't think they know

2047
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:14,560
what that metal is either. I think it's

2048
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:17,440
an unknown metal. But they built a dam

2049
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:19,600
there I believe in the 1960s and to help

2050
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:21,919
the farmers and unfortunately that

2051
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:23,520
flooded that whole area. So because they

2052
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:26,158
changed the direction of the water and

2053
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:28,800
built this dam the water table rose

2054
01:26:26,158 --> 01:26:30,079
>> and that entire labyrinth is now filled

2055
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,079
with water.

2056
01:26:30,079 --> 01:26:33,439
>> But through ground penetrating radar

2057
01:26:32,079 --> 01:26:35,119
they've been able to get this accurate

2058
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,879
assessment of the dimensions of it. And

2059
01:26:35,119 --> 01:26:39,519
then they go back to the descriptions of

2060
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:42,400
Herodotus who described it. See if you

2061
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:44,719
can pull that up. uh Herodotus described

2062
01:26:42,399 --> 01:26:47,039
it as greater than the Giza plateau

2063
01:26:44,719 --> 01:26:49,119
itself. So these labyrinths, these

2064
01:26:47,039 --> 01:26:52,399
corridors, these atriums, these huge

2065
01:26:49,119 --> 01:26:56,238
passageways underneath the the Great

2066
01:26:52,399 --> 01:26:57,759
Pyramid area more complex and more

2067
01:26:56,238 --> 01:26:58,319
spectacular than the pyramids

2068
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,520
themselves.

2069
01:26:58,319 --> 01:27:00,639
>> Yes.

2070
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,760
>> My god.

2071
01:27:00,639 --> 01:27:06,239
>> My god. Like what was this civilization?

2072
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:09,520
These people living in Africa however

2073
01:27:06,238 --> 01:27:11,439
long ago were so much more advanced than

2074
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:14,239
perhaps anybody that's ever existed

2075
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:17,039
including us just in a different way.

2076
01:27:14,238 --> 01:27:19,759
Including us just in a different way. H

2077
01:27:17,039 --> 01:27:22,319
just to remark the fact Joe that there

2078
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:24,480
is difference between the water table

2079
01:27:22,319 --> 01:27:27,039
which which of course is composed by

2080
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:31,678
drinkable water and the water that they

2081
01:27:27,039 --> 01:27:35,760
found uh compounding the uh the Osiris

2082
01:27:31,679 --> 01:27:39,679
shaft and the water that transported all

2083
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:42,239
the debris but that water was uh uh uh

2084
01:27:39,679 --> 01:27:45,920
salty water because of the great flood.

2085
01:27:42,238 --> 01:27:47,039
So it was uh water um of the sea

2086
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,880
composing the sea

2087
01:27:47,039 --> 01:27:50,479
>> which makes sense when you see the salt

2088
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:52,560
that's all over the pyramids. This is

2089
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:54,799
Herodotus's quote. I've seen it myself

2090
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:57,360
and indeed words cannot describe it.

2091
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:59,440
Though the pyramids beg description and

2092
01:27:57,359 --> 01:28:01,920
each one of them is a match for many

2093
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:05,439
great monuments built by Greeks, this

2094
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:09,119
maze surpasses even the pyramids.

2095
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:11,279
That is crazy. That's crazy that he said

2096
01:28:09,119 --> 01:28:13,439
that. And if have you ever seen any of

2097
01:28:11,279 --> 01:28:13,840
the artistic renditions of what it looks

2098
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:14,960
like?

2099
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,159
>> Uh, no. But

2100
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,158
>> see if you can find some of that because

2101
01:28:16,158 --> 01:28:20,000
we did it. If anybody's interested in

2102
01:28:18,158 --> 01:28:23,198
this, I can't recommend enough.

2103
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:25,679
Uncharted X. It's Ben Van Kirkwick.

2104
01:28:23,198 --> 01:28:27,919
>> This is what apparently is underneath

2105
01:28:25,679 --> 01:28:30,319
this area,

2106
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:31,119
which is just [ __ ] staggering.

2107
01:28:30,319 --> 01:28:33,759
>> Wow. How nice.

2108
01:28:31,119 --> 01:28:38,800
>> This is all underground. And so I think

2109
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:40,560
we the next uh the next um uh site that

2110
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,119
we can study can be this.

2111
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,880
>> Yeah.

2112
01:28:41,119 --> 01:28:45,439
>> Yeah. And a

2113
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:47,840
>> and if you could find out what that 40 m

2114
01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:49,919
long metallic object is, that's that's

2115
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,360
when things get weird. That's when

2116
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:54,381
things get real weird cuz you find a

2117
01:28:51,359 --> 01:28:56,158
spaceship down there.

2118
01:28:54,381 --> 01:28:58,880
[laughter]

2119
01:28:56,158 --> 01:29:00,930
Then things get really fun. [gasps]

2120
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,679
I mean, we're Egyptian space travelers.

2121
01:29:00,930 --> 01:29:03,198
[laughter]

2122
01:29:01,679 --> 01:29:05,279
Why not? I mean, if they could build

2123
01:29:03,198 --> 01:29:08,638
that, why not space? Who knows what they

2124
01:29:05,279 --> 01:29:11,439
could do? They're lying in a gigantic

2125
01:29:08,639 --> 01:29:15,199
stone box tripping balls. They have this

2126
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:17,119
huge pyramid. This the structures go how

2127
01:29:15,198 --> 01:29:18,000
long? A kilometer. The entire thing into

2128
01:29:17,119 --> 01:29:19,119
the earth. [laughter]

2129
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:21,920
>> 1.2

2130
01:29:19,119 --> 01:29:25,519
>> 1.2 kilometers into the earth. From the

2131
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:26,158
base of the pyramid down 1.2 km.

2132
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:26,880
>> Wow.

2133
01:29:26,158 --> 01:29:30,319
>> Wow.

2134
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:33,119
>> Wow. This has changed. I mean, from 2018

2135
01:29:30,319 --> 01:29:36,319
to now, from you researching this and

2136
01:29:33,119 --> 01:29:38,559
does this change your entire perspective

2137
01:29:36,319 --> 01:29:41,119
of human history and and just human

2138
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:45,120
beings in general?

2139
01:29:41,119 --> 01:29:48,719
>> In my personal opinion, yes. Because uh

2140
01:29:45,119 --> 01:29:51,279
before this was a problem accepting how

2141
01:29:48,719 --> 01:29:55,039
the pyramids were made, all those

2142
01:29:51,279 --> 01:29:57,279
stones. But if we can if we if we are

2143
01:29:55,039 --> 01:30:00,639
adding also the structures that are

2144
01:29:57,279 --> 01:30:02,719
underneath I don't know what happens

2145
01:30:00,639 --> 01:30:04,480
>> more impossible than before

2146
01:30:02,719 --> 01:30:07,760
>> right

2147
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:10,079
more impossible than I mean if you'd

2148
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:11,360
imagine with modern technology trying to

2149
01:30:10,079 --> 01:30:12,960
recreate something like that you're

2150
01:30:11,359 --> 01:30:13,920
talking about an immense project that

2151
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,920
would cost

2152
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:17,760
>> hundreds of billions of dollars

2153
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:20,000
>> if not more

2154
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,840
>> and the engineering involved in it

2155
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,960
you're an engineer the engineering

2156
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,319
involved olved in doing something like

2157
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,600
that like

2158
01:30:24,319 --> 01:30:27,599
>> how

2159
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:29,920
>> how they can cut the granite so

2160
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:32,079
precisely is impossible is impossible

2161
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:34,480
also today is impossible.

2162
01:30:32,079 --> 01:30:36,880
>> So they had some sort of a technology

2163
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:39,279
that is far more advanced than we have.

2164
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,960
They just went in a different direction.

2165
01:30:39,279 --> 01:30:43,198
We went in the direction of internal

2166
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:44,800
combustion engines and electronics

2167
01:30:43,198 --> 01:30:46,158
>> and they probably went in some

2168
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:50,400
completely different direction.

2169
01:30:46,158 --> 01:30:54,719
>> Yeah. Yes. Because uh the modern science

2170
01:30:50,399 --> 01:30:57,839
started from a point and then as you you

2171
01:30:54,719 --> 01:31:00,399
are you are saying right we we followed

2172
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:04,000
the a direction which is the direction

2173
01:31:00,399 --> 01:31:08,000
of light because most of the our

2174
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:13,119
inventions our yes internal combustion

2175
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:16,079
uh engines and uh uh and other stuff but

2176
01:31:13,119 --> 01:31:16,800
principally we use light because we can

2177
01:31:16,079 --> 01:31:18,399
see

2178
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:21,840
We can see it. We can see light. Okay,

2179
01:31:18,399 --> 01:31:25,839
we use light. But

2180
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:30,079
other other existence, other people that

2181
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:32,560
that was uh uh living in the past maybe

2182
01:31:30,079 --> 01:31:33,600
use other things that we don't know.

2183
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,880
>> Maybe sound.

2184
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,480
>> Maybe sound.

2185
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,560
>> Well, it seems like it if this is

2186
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:40,000
generating sound and vibration, if your

2187
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,560
speculation is correct,

2188
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,639
>> yes,

2189
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:46,880
>> that they were obsessed with vibration

2190
01:31:42,639 --> 01:31:50,239
and sound. Yes, they were obsessed in

2191
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:53,440
vibrations and sound because all the

2192
01:31:50,238 --> 01:31:56,238
structures that I that I watched inside

2193
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:59,279
the inside the pyramids,

2194
01:31:56,238 --> 01:32:02,559
they are like something that generates

2195
01:31:59,279 --> 01:32:04,399
sound or they maintain

2196
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:07,199
clean the sound.

2197
01:32:04,399 --> 01:32:08,399
>> It resonates sound echoes. It has a very

2198
01:32:07,198 --> 01:32:12,319
specific echo to it.

2199
01:32:08,399 --> 01:32:15,759
>> The zed like that is is magnificent. The

2200
01:32:12,319 --> 01:32:21,119
Zet is a is perfect. It's a perfect

2201
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:25,039
device made by stones. It's very nice.

2202
01:32:21,119 --> 01:32:27,599
And just how how and where did they get

2203
01:32:25,039 --> 01:32:31,119
the understanding to construct something

2204
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:34,800
like this? And this this is what screws

2205
01:32:31,119 --> 01:32:37,198
up our idea of a linear timeline of

2206
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:41,360
human progression in civilization to go

2207
01:32:37,198 --> 01:32:43,279
from caveman to modern 2026 human being.

2208
01:32:41,359 --> 01:32:44,719
We like to think that it was just, oh,

2209
01:32:43,279 --> 01:32:46,559
we figured this out, then we figured the

2210
01:32:44,719 --> 01:32:48,158
wheel out, then it was agriculture. Now

2211
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:51,280
here we are today with cars,

2212
01:32:48,158 --> 01:32:54,079
>> but more likely there was some peaks and

2213
01:32:51,279 --> 01:32:55,599
valleys. We rose up to a very high level

2214
01:32:54,079 --> 01:32:57,760
probably during Egypt and it was

2215
01:32:55,600 --> 01:33:00,079
shattered down and it took probably a

2216
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:00,880
long time before civilization rebuilt

2217
01:33:00,079 --> 01:33:03,519
itself again.

2218
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:06,880
>> Yes, Joe. And then we are we are

2219
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:09,600
speaking about modern living but modern

2220
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:11,440
living has to be sustainable,

2221
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:13,360
>> right? I don't think that our modern

2222
01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:14,000
living is so sustainable.

2223
01:33:13,359 --> 01:33:15,198
>> No,

2224
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:17,119
>> no.

2225
01:33:15,198 --> 01:33:18,000
>> I mean, even our population isn't

2226
01:33:17,119 --> 01:33:21,119
sustainable.

2227
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:23,039
>> We're in population collapse in many

2228
01:33:21,119 --> 01:33:25,119
countries in the world, South Korea,

2229
01:33:23,039 --> 01:33:26,719
Japan, even there's arguments about

2230
01:33:25,119 --> 01:33:28,399
America itself

2231
01:33:26,719 --> 01:33:28,800
>> that we're in population collapse.

2232
01:33:28,399 --> 01:33:33,119
>> Yeah.

2233
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:34,800
>> And we're also chaotic. We we also have

2234
01:33:33,119 --> 01:33:36,639
a very bizarre distribution of

2235
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:38,400
information that's filled with nonsense

2236
01:33:36,639 --> 01:33:39,840
and lies and propaganda.

2237
01:33:38,399 --> 01:33:41,359
>> Yes. lies and propaganda. Yes,

2238
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,880
>> we have the government that's constantly

2239
01:33:41,359 --> 01:33:45,359
trying to censor people and control

2240
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:46,880
speech and limit your ability to express

2241
01:33:45,359 --> 01:33:48,960
yourself and complain about things so

2242
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:51,440
they can continue to dominate resources.

2243
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:53,679
You have a we have a weird society

2244
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:56,479
today, but it's also a society because

2245
01:33:53,679 --> 01:33:58,880
of this access to information where you

2246
01:33:56,479 --> 01:34:02,000
can discuss and explore things in a way

2247
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:04,719
that has never happened before. And that

2248
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:06,399
is that's the most exciting thing about

2249
01:34:04,719 --> 01:34:10,158
our time. Yeah. Because there's so much

2250
01:34:06,399 --> 01:34:14,479
room for discussion. I I want to if if I

2251
01:34:10,158 --> 01:34:17,359
can um to explain you something that is

2252
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:19,839
maybe related to philosophy or or to

2253
01:34:17,359 --> 01:34:21,359
other things.

2254
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:27,760
Erh,

2255
01:34:21,359 --> 01:34:30,559
we have an example of how uh um

2256
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:34,000
modern humans are a bit strange because

2257
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:38,239
we we are not uh made it it is like that

2258
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:44,158
we are not made to research uh to or to

2259
01:34:38,238 --> 01:34:46,319
find the uh harmonics the harmonics in

2260
01:34:44,158 --> 01:34:49,039
our living.

2261
01:34:46,319 --> 01:34:53,359
And so uh I just want to make you an

2262
01:34:49,039 --> 01:34:57,519
example the uh do you remember in the

2263
01:34:53,359 --> 01:34:57,920
80s when the uh cold fusion rises?

2264
01:34:57,520 --> 01:34:58,639
>> Yeah.

2265
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,960
>> So

2266
01:34:58,639 --> 01:35:03,520
>> maybe we we we are speaking about

2267
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:06,239
fleshman and pawns that made for the

2268
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:09,600
first time they they they had a glass of

2269
01:35:06,238 --> 01:35:12,319
water and inside they made a a mini

2270
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:14,880
nuclear reaction reactor inside. They

2271
01:35:12,319 --> 01:35:19,119
had some results that were very very

2272
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:21,679
poor results. I know but was a base to

2273
01:35:19,119 --> 01:35:24,960
build something stronger.

2274
01:35:21,679 --> 01:35:28,079
They put away that that experiment. So

2275
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:30,239
no they debunk that experiment. It was

2276
01:35:28,079 --> 01:35:32,559
not good. It is not good because it is

2277
01:35:30,238 --> 01:35:36,158
not possible.

2278
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:41,039
And the example of the cold fusion is

2279
01:35:36,158 --> 01:35:44,399
how we are because cold fusion was

2280
01:35:41,039 --> 01:35:46,719
devoted to find the energy using

2281
01:35:44,399 --> 01:35:50,719
resonance.

2282
01:35:46,719 --> 01:35:55,198
Resonance why how it works called

2283
01:35:50,719 --> 01:35:58,560
fusion. We have two atoms of uh um of

2284
01:35:55,198 --> 01:36:01,039
hydrogen. we start

2285
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:04,880
erh um

2286
01:36:01,039 --> 01:36:07,359
uh we start putting together these two

2287
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:09,119
atoms but while we put together these

2288
01:36:07,359 --> 01:36:11,759
two atoms the there are the atomic

2289
01:36:09,119 --> 01:36:14,960
forces that tends to no I don't want to

2290
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:17,600
stay with the other atom so but then

2291
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:21,198
there is a limit that the atoms fuse

2292
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:24,000
together and it transform it is they are

2293
01:36:21,198 --> 01:36:27,439
transformed in helium plus energy

2294
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:30,719
because of of mass the mass difference

2295
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:33,759
and so you can do energy by fusion. This

2296
01:36:30,719 --> 01:36:38,079
is fusion not cold fusion. So you can

2297
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:40,639
have a fusion by forcing together the

2298
01:36:38,079 --> 01:36:45,118
atoms that they don't want to stay

2299
01:36:40,639 --> 01:36:48,079
together. So the force force together

2300
01:36:45,118 --> 01:36:52,559
and this that is hot yes that that is

2301
01:36:48,079 --> 01:36:56,800
hot fusion. Cold fusion you convince the

2302
01:36:52,560 --> 01:37:00,080
two atoms to stay together naturally.

2303
01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:00,400
Okay. So today

2304
01:37:00,079 --> 01:37:01,920
uh

2305
01:37:00,399 --> 01:37:03,839
>> what method do they use to convince

2306
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:07,199
these atoms to stay together naturally?

2307
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:10,400
>> Yes. You you have to find a third

2308
01:37:07,198 --> 01:37:13,519
material that convince the two atom to

2309
01:37:10,399 --> 01:37:15,920
stay together. Like you say I have a

2310
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:18,480
couple you have a couple a girl and a

2311
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:21,760
man they don't they don't want to talk

2312
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:23,519
one to each other. If you put a a third

2313
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:26,239
person

2314
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:30,000
uh between them at the center of them

2315
01:37:26,238 --> 01:37:32,959
and she and maybe a third person

2316
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:35,920
convince the man and the girl to speak

2317
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:38,639
together and they will speak together.

2318
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:42,719
Okay. So the third material which is

2319
01:37:38,639 --> 01:37:46,880
paladium they use paladium. Paladium has

2320
01:37:42,719 --> 01:37:50,079
the a physical property to make speak

2321
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:53,679
together the two atoms and without force

2322
01:37:50,079 --> 01:37:57,359
them they naturally transform into

2323
01:37:53,679 --> 01:38:00,560
helium and they and they generate energy

2324
01:37:57,359 --> 01:38:03,599
because the helium has a mass lower than

2325
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:04,719
the two atoms with mass difference you

2326
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:06,880
will

2327
01:38:04,719 --> 01:38:08,560
>> you will generate energy

2328
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,639
>> and doing this at scale is really the

2329
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:11,840
holy grail of modern science And this

2330
01:38:10,639 --> 01:38:14,960
has always been the quest.

2331
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:18,079
>> Yes. So we have two paradigma.

2332
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:21,920
Convincing something or obtaining the

2333
01:38:18,079 --> 01:38:25,359
results using the force. And so the the

2334
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:27,118
street that you were speaking before

2335
01:38:25,359 --> 01:38:32,639
science

2336
01:38:27,118 --> 01:38:36,399
had this street. We want to have things

2337
01:38:32,639 --> 01:38:38,239
by using force not convincing.

2338
01:38:36,399 --> 01:38:39,759
>> Right. And that's where we are. That's

2339
01:38:38,238 --> 01:38:42,079
nuclear power. Yes.

2340
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:45,679
>> Nuclear energy.

2341
01:38:42,079 --> 01:38:48,079
>> Yes. Because h

2342
01:38:45,679 --> 01:38:50,480
I tell you today

2343
01:38:48,079 --> 01:38:53,840
also hot

2344
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:57,839
nuclear fusion does not exist

2345
01:38:53,840 --> 01:39:02,400
because it is very difficult to to make

2346
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:05,760
a a huge reactor that use the tokamax or

2347
01:39:02,399 --> 01:39:08,479
something related to laser that uses

2348
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:10,239
that that forces together the atoms to

2349
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:10,718
it's something not natural

2350
01:39:10,238 --> 01:39:12,959
>> right

2351
01:39:10,719 --> 01:39:14,639
>> cold fusion was natural And so the

2352
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:17,359
pyramids are something related to

2353
01:39:14,639 --> 01:39:20,159
vibrations, to harmonic resonance, to

2354
01:39:17,359 --> 01:39:23,439
something like that that

2355
01:39:20,158 --> 01:39:24,879
>> it is the the right creation. That was

2356
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:26,960
the past.

2357
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:28,560
>> They were the right creation. They they

2358
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:30,399
were they were doing it the correct way.

2359
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,600
Yes. Instead of doing it against nature,

2360
01:39:30,399 --> 01:39:31,839
they were doing it in harmony with

2361
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:33,600
nature.

2362
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:35,760
>> In harmony with the nature and in the

2363
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:38,320
universe. And that's why all the

2364
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:40,800
dimensions are related to the constants

2365
01:39:38,319 --> 01:39:42,960
of the universe. The universe is like a

2366
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:45,360
book that is open. We have to just

2367
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:48,800
observe it. It is not difficult. It's

2368
01:39:45,359 --> 01:39:50,719
very simple to read the universe.

2369
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:52,239
>> Okay. Show me more. Show me more of this

2370
01:39:50,719 --> 01:39:54,560
uh presentation.

2371
01:39:52,238 --> 01:39:58,959
>> What else do you have in here? When you

2372
01:39:54,560 --> 01:40:00,719
go from from the the cap with the sound

2373
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,239
resonating into the supposed

2374
01:40:00,719 --> 01:40:06,760
sarcophagus. Yes. What else?

2375
01:40:02,238 --> 01:40:06,759
>> Yes, we can go to that slide.

2376
01:40:09,118 --> 01:40:13,359
This stuff is awesome. This is my

2377
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:15,118
favorite subject by far out of all

2378
01:40:13,359 --> 01:40:16,880
subjects. Ancient history and

2379
01:40:15,118 --> 01:40:17,759
particularly ancient Egypt is my

2380
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,760
favorite subject.

2381
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:22,800
>> Okay, we stopped to speak.

2382
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:27,360
>> This is so undeniably interesting. H if

2383
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:29,760
we can go a slide up. Uh here look here

2384
01:40:27,359 --> 01:40:33,439
we are dealing with something that uh uh

2385
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:37,360
happened uh in 202022

2386
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:39,759
after this uh after our our paper was

2387
01:40:37,359 --> 01:40:43,279
published because these results are on

2388
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:46,800
our first paper. Look Joe

2389
01:40:43,279 --> 01:40:48,719
that slide there that that lower. Yes.

2390
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:51,360
>> Yes.

2391
01:40:48,719 --> 01:40:52,239
You depict chambers that were previously

2392
01:40:51,359 --> 01:40:53,759
not known.

2393
01:40:52,238 --> 01:40:54,638
>> Yeah. Right.

2394
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:55,600
>> That's the big void.

2395
01:40:54,639 --> 01:40:57,920
>> Right. The big void.

2396
01:40:55,600 --> 01:41:00,159
>> That's the big void. And then there is

2397
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:03,199
the chevron

2398
01:41:00,158 --> 01:41:07,439
connecting with the corridor,

2399
01:41:03,198 --> 01:41:11,039
the base of the grand gallery. That

2400
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:13,039
corridor was discovered six months later

2401
01:41:11,039 --> 01:41:14,719
by Zakyawas.

2402
01:41:13,039 --> 01:41:19,118
>> Wow.

2403
01:41:14,719 --> 01:41:21,760
They made the paper but uh they I I

2404
01:41:19,118 --> 01:41:22,158
depicted six months

2405
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:23,679
before.

2406
01:41:22,158 --> 01:41:24,238
>> So you let them know it was there and

2407
01:41:23,679 --> 01:41:25,520
then

2408
01:41:24,238 --> 01:41:25,839
>> that's the corridor. That's the

2409
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:28,480
corridor.

2410
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:29,679
>> You found it. [laughter]

2411
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:32,079
>> That's the corridor. Yeah.

2412
01:41:29,679 --> 01:41:34,399
>> I don't want to say that I found it, but

2413
01:41:32,079 --> 01:41:35,279
>> Well, you found it. I'll say it. You

2414
01:41:34,399 --> 01:41:38,000
found it.

2415
01:41:35,279 --> 01:41:40,238
>> So your technology

2416
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:42,560
showed something that turned out to be

2417
01:41:40,238 --> 01:41:45,118
true and is now established.

2418
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:46,880
>> Yes. And again, how crazy is it? They're

2419
01:41:45,118 --> 01:41:50,639
just finding new chambers in the

2420
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:51,279
pyramids in the 21st century.

2421
01:41:50,639 --> 01:41:52,960
>> Uh,

2422
01:41:51,279 --> 01:41:55,359
>> pretty spectacular that they're just

2423
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:57,840
finding this now.

2424
01:41:55,359 --> 01:42:00,479
>> And just yesterday, I was to examinate

2425
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:03,840
it again there. I don't have it. I don't

2426
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:06,399
have a slides here. I'm I am sorry. But

2427
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:08,719
there are the results of the scam

2428
01:42:06,399 --> 01:42:12,559
pyramid project. The scam pyramid visual

2429
01:42:08,719 --> 01:42:17,039
is very good. I it is a they are it is a

2430
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:20,400
very nice uh project project uh group

2431
01:42:17,039 --> 01:42:23,039
and they discovered the uh the so-called

2432
01:42:20,399 --> 01:42:26,000
um big void

2433
01:42:23,039 --> 01:42:28,479
but uh there is a problem because they

2434
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:32,719
say the big void can be something

2435
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:35,039
parallel to the grand gallery so not

2436
01:42:32,719 --> 01:42:37,920
steady but inclined like inclined

2437
01:42:35,039 --> 01:42:42,000
>> and inclined right

2438
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:45,118
>> examinating results.

2439
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:48,880
I was observing something.

2440
01:42:45,118 --> 01:42:52,000
Maybe I say maybe I can say that I am

2441
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:56,000
right of this. Maybe they are they they

2442
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:57,920
are mis they are confusing an inclined

2443
01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:01,198
new chamber

2444
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:03,520
by the top of the they are

2445
01:43:01,198 --> 01:43:06,000
distinguishing the top of the grand

2446
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:09,679
gallery and the bottom of the grand

2447
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:13,520
gallery like that. I observed the

2448
01:43:09,679 --> 01:43:17,520
results but in my personal opinion

2449
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:20,560
the big void is not inclined but it is

2450
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,119
located where there is that red blob

2451
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:21,520
there.

2452
01:43:21,118 --> 01:43:23,439
>> Mhm.

2453
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:26,400
>> That's the the grand gallery. Yes.

2454
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:29,759
There. And also up. Yes. That's the

2455
01:43:26,399 --> 01:43:33,039
grand gallery. It is not inclined. Is is

2456
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:34,320
flat like that. Is how you say is um

2457
01:43:33,039 --> 01:43:35,920
steady not inclined.

2458
01:43:34,319 --> 01:43:36,238
>> Right.

2459
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,158
>> Um

2460
01:43:36,238 --> 01:43:39,839
>> that's the grand. Why do they think it's

2461
01:43:38,158 --> 01:43:43,359
at an incline?

2462
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:45,279
>> Because we are not seeing we are not my

2463
01:43:43,359 --> 01:43:50,000
technique does not detect is not

2464
01:43:45,279 --> 01:43:51,279
detecting an inclined uh chamber on the

2465
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:53,439
top of the grand gallery.

2466
01:43:51,279 --> 01:43:56,479
>> Why do they think there's an incline?

2467
01:43:53,439 --> 01:44:01,279
>> Yes, because they found two targets

2468
01:43:56,479 --> 01:44:04,000
parallel. But I am feeling to tell them

2469
01:44:01,279 --> 01:44:06,559
to be careful because maybe they are

2470
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:10,079
confusing the roof of the Grand Gallery

2471
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:10,800
and the and the lower part of the Grand

2472
01:44:10,079 --> 01:44:11,600
Gallery.

2473
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:14,800
>> I see.

2474
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:18,320
>> Okay. They have to be careful.

2475
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:20,719
>> Interesting. But it's just also more

2476
01:44:18,319 --> 01:44:22,960
evidence that your techniques are very

2477
01:44:20,719 --> 01:44:25,600
effective and accurate

2478
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:30,880
because you did desri describe you have

2479
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:34,719
>> we can see the the the results that uh I

2480
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:36,800
uh that I um obtained on the granaso. We

2481
01:44:34,719 --> 01:44:42,399
can see the granaso and the laboratory

2482
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:45,520
of granaso. That is the a perfect um uh

2483
01:44:42,399 --> 01:44:47,198
benchmark that describes the effective

2484
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,560
effectiveness of my technique.

2485
01:44:47,198 --> 01:44:51,599
>> All right. Show me some more. What else

2486
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:55,320
you got here?

2487
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:55,320
Show me another slide.

2488
01:44:55,840 --> 01:45:03,440
>> Uh below I think. Ah okay. Okay. We go

2489
01:44:58,719 --> 01:45:05,118
to Gubio. This is a a town where I live.

2490
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:07,919
I am uh

2491
01:45:05,118 --> 01:45:11,359
>> this is Saxan. Sakahan. Yes, this is

2492
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:16,158
Sakahaman. And uh here I am showing you

2493
01:45:11,359 --> 01:45:19,279
the next uh work that we uh can do uh

2494
01:45:16,158 --> 01:45:20,638
once the Jiza scanning activity are

2495
01:45:19,279 --> 01:45:23,519
finished it.

2496
01:45:20,639 --> 01:45:26,000
>> So this is in Peru, correct? Yes.

2497
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:27,760
>> And so you want to scan this as well

2498
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:29,679
because uh you know we've had quite a

2499
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:32,639
few people on describe this.

2500
01:45:29,679 --> 01:45:33,679
>> Yes. Look, Joe, the stones are like mash

2501
01:45:32,639 --> 01:45:34,480
marshmallows.

2502
01:45:33,679 --> 01:45:36,480
>> Yes,

2503
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:38,879
>> they are like marshmallows. How they did

2504
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:39,118
those those

2505
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:40,639
>> right

2506
01:45:39,118 --> 01:45:44,559
>> those things there?

2507
01:45:40,639 --> 01:45:47,520
>> Enormous. Some of them hundred tons

2508
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:49,039
>> carve from stones that who knows how

2509
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:51,440
they put them into position, but they

2510
01:45:49,039 --> 01:45:54,238
carved them in this very strange way to

2511
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:56,319
absorb the impact of earthquakes. Right.

2512
01:45:54,238 --> 01:45:57,919
The idea of this technology is that the

2513
01:45:56,319 --> 01:46:00,479
reason why they're like a puzzle piece

2514
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:03,920
is because it would be much less likely

2515
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:06,479
to move in an intense earthquake.

2516
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:08,960
>> Okay.

2517
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:12,879
Go back

2518
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:15,439
just a few words on this city that is

2519
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:17,679
small town that is located in Peruja

2520
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:22,479
where I live.

2521
01:46:17,679 --> 01:46:24,560
Um uh look um uh the the Italian the

2522
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:28,718
authority of this of the city of the

2523
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:32,239
town asked me to perform a scanning

2524
01:46:28,719 --> 01:46:34,960
around that colosum that mini colosum

2525
01:46:32,238 --> 01:46:38,959
that is located in Gubio because

2526
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:41,520
probably there is a huge Roman city not

2527
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:46,480
so old but it is a Roman city that

2528
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:49,040
compounds that arena that is there. M so

2529
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:49,599
a lost Roman city that's around that

2530
01:46:49,039 --> 01:46:51,600
area.

2531
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:54,489
>> Yes. Yes.

2532
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:55,280
And I say hello to the people of Gubio.

2533
01:46:54,488 --> 01:46:57,039
[laughter]

2534
01:46:55,279 --> 01:46:57,759
>> So is this the next thing that you're

2535
01:46:57,039 --> 01:46:58,319
going to do?

2536
01:46:57,760 --> 01:46:59,119
>> Uh

2537
01:46:58,319 --> 01:46:59,679
>> one of the next things.

2538
01:46:59,118 --> 01:47:02,158
>> One of the next.

2539
01:46:59,679 --> 01:47:02,960
>> But Sakai Huan is also Yes.

2540
01:47:02,158 --> 01:47:05,198
>> Yeah.

2541
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:08,800
>> Ah and there is also

2542
01:47:05,198 --> 01:47:12,879
Carakora also. Very interesting. The the

2543
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:18,000
slide 51 please.

2544
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:22,079
Yes. Yes. Carakora. Yes. This this is

2545
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:26,960
located in Russia and there are

2546
01:47:22,079 --> 01:47:27,920
huge structures inside there.

2547
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,118
And uh

2548
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:32,000
>> this is in Russia.

2549
01:47:29,118 --> 01:47:33,759
>> Yes. Yes. And nobody knows the the

2550
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:38,158
purpose of the of those things there.

2551
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:39,119
Nobody. It's crazy. More than crazy.

2552
01:47:38,158 --> 01:47:40,638
>> And how big are these [clears throat]

2553
01:47:39,118 --> 01:47:42,158
things? Can you keep that up there?

2554
01:47:40,639 --> 01:47:43,359
>> Find other pictures of it so you see

2555
01:47:42,158 --> 01:47:44,879
what it look like. Just keep this up

2556
01:47:43,359 --> 01:47:46,639
just for a couple seconds. I just like

2557
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,679
how how big are we what are we looking

2558
01:47:46,639 --> 01:47:53,279
at here?

2559
01:47:47,679 --> 01:47:56,960
>> Yes, we have 9 + 16 + 7 + 10 plus 36 and

2560
01:47:53,279 --> 01:47:57,439
they go below. So maybe two or 300 m

2561
01:47:56,960 --> 01:48:00,158
below

2562
01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:01,919
>> two or 300 m and there's this immense

2563
01:48:00,158 --> 01:48:02,559
rectangle at the bottom of these

2564
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:06,319
corridors.

2565
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:09,360
>> Yeah. And and it goes more more deeply

2566
01:48:06,319 --> 01:48:11,599
and so they nobody knows what there is.

2567
01:48:09,359 --> 01:48:13,118
And if you look at that image, it's

2568
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:14,639
clearly a man-made structure.

2569
01:48:13,118 --> 01:48:16,079
>> It's man-made. Absolutely. Yes.

2570
01:48:14,639 --> 01:48:16,960
>> I mean, look, there's stones. They're

2571
01:48:16,079 --> 01:48:18,319
they're placed.

2572
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:20,000
>> Yeah.

2573
01:48:18,319 --> 01:48:20,719
>> That is nuts.

2574
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,079
>> That's crazy.

2575
01:48:20,719 --> 01:48:24,079
>> And they don't they there's no

2576
01:48:22,079 --> 01:48:25,039
historical timeline, no understanding of

2577
01:48:24,079 --> 01:48:26,719
who did it.

2578
01:48:25,039 --> 01:48:28,319
>> No.

2579
01:48:26,719 --> 01:48:30,800
>> Wow.

2580
01:48:28,319 --> 01:48:32,158
So, it's likely that there's structures

2581
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:34,239
like this that exist that are

2582
01:48:32,158 --> 01:48:34,799
undiscovered probably all over the

2583
01:48:34,238 --> 01:48:40,000
world.

2584
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:45,360
>> Yeah. Yes. The the nice thing of this is

2585
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:49,600
is this satellites are global globally.

2586
01:48:45,359 --> 01:48:53,359
So one satellite flies from let's say

2587
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:54,079
south pole north pole south south pole

2588
01:48:53,359 --> 01:48:54,799
like that

2589
01:48:54,079 --> 01:48:56,719
>> right

2590
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:58,560
>> because of the angular momentum

2591
01:48:56,719 --> 01:49:03,439
conservation

2592
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:07,920
the let's say the wheel of the orbit

2593
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:10,960
remains steady and the earth rotates

2594
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:14,800
inside this circle the circle remains

2595
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:18,079
steady like that. So at least once a

2596
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:21,199
day, one satellite can observe

2597
01:49:18,079 --> 01:49:21,920
potentially any part of the globe in one

2598
01:49:21,198 --> 01:49:22,559
day.

2599
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:26,639
>> M

2600
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:29,920
>> so you can program snapshots where you

2601
01:49:26,639 --> 01:49:31,118
want in all the earth in one day.

2602
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:33,600
>> And how [clears throat] many satellites

2603
01:49:31,118 --> 01:49:36,799
are up there? Ah there are uh uh the

2604
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:38,320
satellites that uh contains on board of

2605
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:40,320
them

2606
01:49:38,319 --> 01:49:42,319
a payload

2607
01:49:40,319 --> 01:49:45,198
uh composed by a synthetic version

2608
01:49:42,319 --> 01:49:48,639
rather there are a lot there are

2609
01:49:45,198 --> 01:49:51,599
different satellites companies that uh

2610
01:49:48,639 --> 01:49:55,600
provides these services.

2611
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:58,400
So uh today it is possible to decide to

2612
01:49:55,600 --> 01:50:00,800
observe something. Okay. I call the

2613
01:49:58,399 --> 01:50:01,920
company and they put case for me an

2614
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:04,079
image.

2615
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:06,239
>> And this structure in Russia, how was

2616
01:50:04,079 --> 01:50:07,198
this initially discovered? Was it

2617
01:50:06,238 --> 01:50:08,399
discovered by explorers?

2618
01:50:07,198 --> 01:50:10,158
>> Manually by explorers

2619
01:50:08,399 --> 01:50:12,238
>> manually. Yes. And how did they get the

2620
01:50:10,158 --> 01:50:13,599
dimensions of it? Are people able to go

2621
01:50:12,238 --> 01:50:17,439
all the way down into it?

2622
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:20,000
>> That man because there is only a a a man

2623
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:22,719
that went down because it's very narrow.

2624
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:25,760
But once you go down be everything

2625
01:50:22,719 --> 01:50:29,198
becomes very huge and large. Measure it

2626
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:31,760
manually all those depths. But more

2627
01:50:29,198 --> 01:50:34,319
there than then you can't go because

2628
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:35,520
maybe it's too narrow. I don't know.

2629
01:50:34,319 --> 01:50:37,118
He's okay.

2630
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:38,000
>> Did you find any images of that Jamie

2631
01:50:37,118 --> 01:50:40,880
online?

2632
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:43,279
>> I'm looking into something.

2633
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:44,800
I'm stuck in a hole. Hold on.

2634
01:50:43,279 --> 01:50:46,319
>> Someone was sort of saying it's in a

2635
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:48,719
different spot and now I try to track it

2636
01:50:46,319 --> 01:50:49,920
down. These are also weirdly only

2637
01:50:48,719 --> 01:50:52,560
getting talked about over the last

2638
01:50:49,920 --> 01:50:52,880
month. So I am digging down a different

2639
01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:54,639
path.

2640
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:56,000
>> When did they discover this?

2641
01:50:54,639 --> 01:50:57,039
>> This I don't remember.

2642
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,319
>> 2011.

2643
01:50:57,039 --> 01:50:59,679
>> 2011.

2644
01:50:58,319 --> 01:51:01,279
>> That's crazy.

2645
01:50:59,679 --> 01:51:02,719
>> The fact that they don't know who made

2646
01:51:01,279 --> 01:51:05,039
it or why,

2647
01:51:02,719 --> 01:51:07,039
>> but it is clearly man-made. You're

2648
01:51:05,039 --> 01:51:08,479
seeing these stones perfectly cut

2649
01:51:07,039 --> 01:51:12,079
stacked on top of each other.

2650
01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:14,319
>> Yes. And you have the same uh

2651
01:51:12,079 --> 01:51:16,479
>> Oh, okay. It says it's currently known

2652
01:51:14,319 --> 01:51:17,840
from fringe social media and YouTube

2653
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:19,678
style sources rather than former

2654
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:21,520
archaeological publications because it

2655
01:51:19,679 --> 01:51:22,880
hasn't been explored. Correct.

2656
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,719
>> Yeah. It's 15 years ago though.

2657
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:26,560
>> Yeah. Pretty pretty nuts. But I mean,

2658
01:51:24,719 --> 01:51:29,039
who's doing that kind of work in Russia,

2659
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:31,920
especially now? Deep underground shaft

2660
01:51:29,039 --> 01:51:33,920
lined with large parallel megalithic

2661
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:36,158
stone blocks with walls described as

2662
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:38,480
straight and polished suggest suggest

2663
01:51:36,158 --> 01:51:40,479
artificial construction rather than a

2664
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:43,359
natural cave or fissure. And this is all

2665
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:45,919
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2666
01:51:43,359 --> 01:51:48,079
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2667
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:50,719
always been very accurate. Said to lie

2668
01:51:48,079 --> 01:51:53,279
somewhere between in the Russian Caucus,

2669
01:51:50,719 --> 01:51:56,000
often simply uh described simply as

2670
01:51:53,279 --> 01:51:58,158
North Cauus or Cauus Mountains uh with

2671
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:59,920
videos and posts presenting it as

2672
01:51:58,158 --> 01:52:01,920
evidence of unknown or very ancient

2673
01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:03,599
civilization with advanced stonework

2674
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:05,118
techniques.

2675
01:52:03,599 --> 01:52:07,119
Crazy that they don't know who made

2676
01:52:05,118 --> 01:52:09,359
this. There's no accessible

2677
01:52:07,118 --> 01:52:11,359
peer-reviewed archaeological articles,

2678
01:52:09,359 --> 01:52:13,118
official Russian heritage records, or

2679
01:52:11,359 --> 01:52:17,439
academic monographs that describe the

2680
01:52:13,118 --> 01:52:19,839
site formally named the Carahora. Is am

2681
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:20,879
I saying that right? Carora

2682
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:22,800
>> Kahora shaft.

2683
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:24,800
>> Caror shaft, which strongly suggests the

2684
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:26,560
claim has not been vetted by mainstream

2685
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:27,440
archaeology, but you know, look, it

2686
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:28,960
exists.

2687
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:31,039
>> Whether it's vetted or not, it doesn't

2688
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:32,719
matter like what who made it? What is

2689
01:52:31,039 --> 01:52:36,000
it?

2690
01:52:32,719 --> 01:52:38,319
>> Nuts. That's really crazy. I had no idea

2691
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:40,000
that that existed. [laughter]

2692
01:52:38,319 --> 01:52:43,198
>> And it just it makes you think like if

2693
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:43,920
they just found that in 2011 and

2694
01:52:43,198 --> 01:52:44,319
>> manually,

2695
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:48,079
>> right,

2696
01:52:44,319 --> 01:52:50,960
>> and maybe doing a a wide a wide uh

2697
01:52:48,079 --> 01:52:54,158
research by satellites, maybe starting

2698
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:56,399
from there or other sites

2699
01:52:54,158 --> 01:52:57,439
between that that Kahora, maybe we will

2700
01:52:56,399 --> 01:52:59,839
find other things,

2701
01:52:57,439 --> 01:53:01,678
>> right? It could be a part of an enormous

2702
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:04,880
complex. I mean, who knows? But just the

2703
01:53:01,679 --> 01:53:06,480
fact that that exists and that a human

2704
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:08,079
made that or humans made that, that's

2705
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:10,079
crazy.

2706
01:53:08,079 --> 01:53:12,800
The whole thing is crazy because it

2707
01:53:10,079 --> 01:53:14,319
really like anybody that boy the modern

2708
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:15,760
archaeologists and people that are the

2709
01:53:14,319 --> 01:53:17,279
gatekeepers of archaeological

2710
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:20,320
information are fighting an uphill

2711
01:53:17,279 --> 01:53:21,279
battle because like you can't at at a

2712
01:53:20,319 --> 01:53:23,679
certain point in time you have to give

2713
01:53:21,279 --> 01:53:24,719
up and go I don't know. And that's an I

2714
01:53:23,679 --> 01:53:26,239
don't know moment like

2715
01:53:24,719 --> 01:53:27,760
>> yes this and I don't know.

2716
01:53:26,238 --> 01:53:29,198
>> What the hell is that?

2717
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:31,039
>> What is that? I don't Show me some more

2718
01:53:29,198 --> 01:53:32,238
images, Jamie, cuz it's really kooky

2719
01:53:31,039 --> 01:53:33,519
>> of the shaft.

2720
01:53:32,238 --> 01:53:35,839
>> Yeah, just that what that looks like.

2721
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:37,599
>> That's I'm trying to It's I'm digging

2722
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:38,079
down a hole and it there's a post here

2723
01:53:37,599 --> 01:53:39,840
on

2724
01:53:38,079 --> 01:53:41,599
>> Yes, there are.

2725
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,159
>> This is a like they're misinterpreting

2726
01:53:41,599 --> 01:53:44,000
something.

2727
01:53:42,158 --> 01:53:45,198
>> This is Jay Anderson who's been on the

2728
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,800
podcast recently.

2729
01:53:45,198 --> 01:53:51,678
>> This is the tweet I found. Uh how about

2730
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:55,279
some fat chunk car um in the kab

2731
01:53:51,679 --> 01:53:57,199
cabardino bulria republic north caucus

2732
01:53:55,279 --> 01:53:59,840
of the Russian Federation is a different

2733
01:53:57,198 --> 01:54:02,319
place from carakoto

2734
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:03,360
so carora and carako so there's more

2735
01:54:02,319 --> 01:54:05,359
than one place

2736
01:54:03,359 --> 01:54:07,279
>> I'm I'm trying to I haven't I'm just

2737
01:54:05,359 --> 01:54:08,880
googling stuff it's it all comes from

2738
01:54:07,279 --> 01:54:10,158
this one video it seems like because

2739
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:12,159
everyone's pointing to this video and

2740
01:54:10,158 --> 01:54:13,359
this video is compiled of all sorts of

2741
01:54:12,158 --> 01:54:15,759
stuff

2742
01:54:13,359 --> 01:54:17,519
>> it's got 3 million views from 2024

2743
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:18,560
forest. I can see how it goes when it

2744
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:18,960
went viral, you know.

2745
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:22,080
>> Mhm.

2746
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:23,679
>> But, uh, it starts off with just showing

2747
01:54:22,079 --> 01:54:25,359
that and I don't, you know,

2748
01:54:23,679 --> 01:54:25,840
>> so this is probably the entry to this

2749
01:54:25,359 --> 01:54:27,839
area

2750
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:29,679
>> maybe. But again, no one knows they

2751
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,159
can't tell you where that is like on a

2752
01:54:29,679 --> 01:54:31,118
map,

2753
01:54:30,158 --> 01:54:33,839
>> right? Got it.

2754
01:54:31,118 --> 01:54:36,079
>> Look how precise they are.

2755
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,719
>> So, I this might be

2756
01:54:36,079 --> 01:54:38,079
>> who knows.

2757
01:54:36,719 --> 01:54:39,679
>> Yeah. Could be real, could be nonsense.

2758
01:54:38,079 --> 01:54:42,158
Well, the the images of that guy

2759
01:54:39,679 --> 01:54:44,319
standing there looking outside of that

2760
01:54:42,158 --> 01:54:47,279
opening that you showed earlier in your

2761
01:54:44,319 --> 01:54:48,559
presentation is just bananas. But

2762
01:54:47,279 --> 01:54:50,079
whatever this is is

2763
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:50,719
>> that's I don't know where it's from. You

2764
01:54:50,079 --> 01:54:52,960
know, it could be

2765
01:54:50,719 --> 01:54:54,800
>> right. Do they have any video of once

2766
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:57,118
they got all the way down through? So

2767
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:59,279
here. Okay, let's keep going. See what

2768
01:54:57,118 --> 01:55:02,960
it looks like.

2769
01:54:59,279 --> 01:55:04,719
>> And I don't even know.

2770
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:06,000
>> Yeah. So someone else has done narration

2771
01:55:04,719 --> 01:55:08,239
on it. Mhm.

2772
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:09,760
>> It's coming from a different channel. I

2773
01:55:08,238 --> 01:55:10,718
can see a tag on there. It's coming from

2774
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:12,320
a different show.

2775
01:55:10,719 --> 01:55:13,439
>> God, look at the right angles, though.

2776
01:55:12,319 --> 01:55:14,399
This is nuts.

2777
01:55:13,439 --> 01:55:15,839
>> Yes.

2778
01:55:14,399 --> 01:55:18,238
>> I mean, it's clearly looks like

2779
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:19,599
something man-made. [clears throat]

2780
01:55:18,238 --> 01:55:21,118
Look how precise they are.

2781
01:55:19,599 --> 01:55:22,639
>> Yeah, it's crazy.

2782
01:55:21,118 --> 01:55:25,039
>> That's man-made. It's absolutely

2783
01:55:22,639 --> 01:55:27,039
man-made.

2784
01:55:25,039 --> 01:55:29,359
There are also a comparison what with

2785
01:55:27,039 --> 01:55:30,560
the with the dimensions of the

2786
01:55:29,359 --> 01:55:35,118
dimensions.

2787
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:37,520
>> Wow. What the hell is that?

2788
01:55:35,118 --> 01:55:39,598
That means what the hell is that? It's

2789
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:41,760
crazy. And they found it in 2011. Yeah.

2790
01:55:39,599 --> 01:55:42,639
>> I mean, imagine how much more of this

2791
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:44,000
stuff.

2792
01:55:42,639 --> 01:55:46,719
>> I mean, that's one of the things about

2793
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:47,599
Gob Beckley. They've only observed 5% of

2794
01:55:46,719 --> 01:55:49,840
it.

2795
01:55:47,599 --> 01:55:51,599
>> I mean, 5% of it they've uncovered and

2796
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:53,599
and through ground penetrating radar,

2797
01:55:51,599 --> 01:55:55,760
they know of multiple sites nearby.

2798
01:55:53,599 --> 01:55:56,319
>> Yes. But ground penetrated radar has a

2799
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:57,599
problem.

2800
01:55:56,319 --> 01:56:01,679
>> What is the problem? The problem of

2801
01:55:57,599 --> 01:56:05,599
ground penetrating radar is uh the

2802
01:56:01,679 --> 01:56:07,118
penetration depth is few meters enough.

2803
01:56:05,599 --> 01:56:10,159
>> So it's a pro there is a problem of

2804
01:56:07,118 --> 01:56:12,960
penetration depth but

2805
01:56:10,158 --> 01:56:15,839
in that depth you are very precise. So

2806
01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:19,920
you have to take into account that more

2807
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:23,199
than 15 20 m you below you can't go

2808
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:25,118
>> right but using that method they have

2809
01:56:23,198 --> 01:56:28,719
found all these structures that exist.

2810
01:56:25,118 --> 01:56:31,759
It's a good method uh for uh in C2

2811
01:56:28,719 --> 01:56:33,439
exploration. Yes. And so you can find

2812
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:37,199
nice things with using ground

2813
01:56:33,439 --> 01:56:41,839
penetrating radar if you want to to

2814
01:56:37,198 --> 01:56:45,839
perform a wide area uh rough uh let's

2815
01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:48,960
say rough um uh scanning uh you you can

2816
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:52,319
use my method. So you can you can find

2817
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:54,560
huge things on wide area. for the the

2818
01:56:52,319 --> 01:56:55,279
details. It's okay. Ground penetrating

2819
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:56,719
radar.

2820
01:56:55,279 --> 01:56:58,319
>> Um, is there anything else you want to

2821
01:56:56,719 --> 01:57:00,239
show us that's in your presentation that

2822
01:56:58,319 --> 01:57:01,599
you think Okay, show me some more stuff.

2823
01:57:00,238 --> 01:57:02,959
>> Yes, it's a pleasure.

2824
01:57:01,599 --> 01:57:04,639
>> Yeah, please. It's a pleasure for me,

2825
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:05,599
too. Thank you. Thank you for being

2826
01:57:04,639 --> 01:57:06,079
here.

2827
01:57:05,599 --> 01:57:07,520
>> Okay,

2828
01:57:06,079 --> 01:57:09,599
>> thank you for inviting.

2829
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:11,040
>> Uh, Carora, is that how you say it?

2830
01:57:09,599 --> 01:57:11,760
Carora. Kora.

2831
01:57:11,039 --> 01:57:13,039
>> Carakora.

2832
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:15,280
>> Carakora.

2833
01:57:13,039 --> 01:57:17,599
>> So, this is a carora. So, that image, go

2834
01:57:15,279 --> 01:57:19,840
back one more time to carora. That, so

2835
01:57:17,599 --> 01:57:22,400
that's a legitimate image. That's not AI

2836
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:24,079
generated. This is This is these guys

2837
01:57:22,399 --> 01:57:26,000
standing in

2838
01:57:24,079 --> 01:57:28,960
>> clearly what looks like megalithic

2839
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:30,000
stones stacked on top of each other.

2840
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:31,760
>> Clearly man-made.

2841
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:32,158
>> Yes. Clearly man-made because look, you

2842
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:32,560
see

2843
01:57:32,158 --> 01:57:33,519
>> Yes.

2844
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:35,840
>> You see the blocks?

2845
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:37,040
>> Yeah. You see the blocks? It's [ __ ]

2846
01:57:35,840 --> 01:57:39,679
nuts.

2847
01:57:37,039 --> 01:57:41,679
>> No, but okay, we can we can understand

2848
01:57:39,679 --> 01:57:42,880
that it's possible maybe it's possible

2849
01:57:41,679 --> 01:57:43,679
to build something like that.

2850
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:44,719
>> Sure, it's possible.

2851
01:57:43,679 --> 01:57:46,719
>> The purpose,

2852
01:57:44,719 --> 01:57:48,239
>> right? The purpose and when and who and

2853
01:57:46,719 --> 01:57:50,880
what civilization,

2854
01:57:48,238 --> 01:57:52,479
>> right? Like who did that? That's That is

2855
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:53,760
insane.

2856
01:57:52,479 --> 01:57:56,879
>> What even is that?

2857
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:58,480
>> What even is that? Yeah. I mean, there's

2858
01:57:56,880 --> 01:57:59,760
ropes that go across and that's what

2859
01:57:58,479 --> 01:58:00,399
you're seeing.

2860
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:01,679
>> And you're seeing

2861
01:58:00,399 --> 01:58:02,960
>> that rope go where's his arm and where

2862
01:58:01,679 --> 01:58:04,960
does the rope go to?

2863
01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:06,480
>> Well, he's got his arm posted on the

2864
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:07,760
side of that wall and that rope goes

2865
01:58:06,479 --> 01:58:08,638
across and you're just not seeing it

2866
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:10,000
because of the darkness.

2867
01:58:08,639 --> 01:58:11,359
>> Is that like he's leaning against

2868
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,960
something there, too?

2869
01:58:11,359 --> 01:58:14,880
>> Uh, it looks like he's got his hand on

2870
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:17,439
that wall. That opening. There's an

2871
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:20,159
opening in that shaft. Um, so what else

2872
01:58:17,439 --> 01:58:21,359
is next in this in this presentation?

2873
01:58:20,158 --> 01:58:23,198
>> Okay.

2874
01:58:21,359 --> 01:58:26,399
>> Yeah. Which way should I go?

2875
01:58:23,198 --> 01:58:29,519
>> Okay, we go upstairs. Let's see.

2876
01:58:26,399 --> 01:58:31,839
Go back. Then we have Gubio. And there

2877
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:34,880
here we have the Osaris shafts which we

2878
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:37,599
use this shaft, the Osaris shaft like a

2879
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:40,319
benchmark because we we are able to

2880
01:58:37,599 --> 01:58:42,480
understand the effectiveness of our

2881
01:58:40,319 --> 01:58:44,639
technique that is able to retrive the

2882
01:58:42,479 --> 01:58:46,718
shape of the osaris shaft. Why the

2883
01:58:44,639 --> 01:58:50,159
shaft? because it's a benchmark that we

2884
01:58:46,719 --> 01:58:52,079
know uh exactly how it is established

2885
01:58:50,158 --> 01:58:54,319
and and uh and uh

2886
01:58:52,079 --> 01:58:57,359
>> so it accurately depicts the Osiris.

2887
01:58:54,319 --> 01:58:58,399
>> Yes. Yes.

2888
01:58:57,359 --> 01:59:05,679
>> Um what else?

2889
01:58:58,399 --> 01:59:09,519
>> Okay, let's go there. Okay. The uh 43 43

2890
01:59:05,679 --> 01:59:14,079
Yes. Uh this is uh uh the Sangotard

2891
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:16,400
tunnel and here uh I made an exploration

2892
01:59:14,079 --> 01:59:20,719
using my technique uh in order to

2893
01:59:16,399 --> 01:59:24,000
retrive the shape of the railway tunnel

2894
01:59:20,719 --> 01:59:28,239
that it is uh approximately 2 kilometers

2895
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:30,800
below uh the the the mountain and the

2896
01:59:28,238 --> 01:59:33,839
slide 44.

2897
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:37,760
uh we can uh understand that in this

2898
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:40,079
case the Alps the the mountain resonates

2899
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:42,000
like a crystal. So you are seeing you

2900
01:59:40,079 --> 01:59:45,599
are watching the mountain in the

2901
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:49,760
vibrational domain. So it's like

2902
01:59:45,599 --> 01:59:54,920
a photograph a photo uh pick picked up

2903
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:54,920
or um uh synthe

2904
01:59:55,198 --> 02:00:03,359
in in that case uh we can see the slide

2905
01:59:58,639 --> 02:00:06,000
45 and 46 we are detecting the tunnel

2906
02:00:03,359 --> 02:00:08,880
the the tunnel yes that's the railway

2907
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:11,599
tunnel that is located below the earth.

2908
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:13,440
Wow.

2909
02:00:11,599 --> 02:00:15,119
So this is just more proof of the

2910
02:00:13,439 --> 02:00:18,238
accuracy of the technique.

2911
02:00:15,118 --> 02:00:20,319
>> Yes. Yes.

2912
02:00:18,238 --> 02:00:22,399
>> This is some really stunning stuff.

2913
02:00:20,319 --> 02:00:27,279
>> Yes. That I can explain you other

2914
02:00:22,399 --> 02:00:32,319
experiments. We can go starting from uh

2915
02:00:27,279 --> 02:00:34,479
slide 36. Okay. Slide 36. This is a dam

2916
02:00:32,319 --> 02:00:37,920
and this very it is a very important

2917
02:00:34,479 --> 02:00:40,799
dam. It is a the Mosul dam that is

2918
02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:47,039
located in Iraq.

2919
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:50,960
uh is very huge is 300 m tall has a

2920
02:00:47,039 --> 02:00:53,840
height of 300 m and 3 kilometers from

2921
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:58,239
one part to the other part of the dam.

2922
02:00:53,840 --> 02:01:01,679
So it contains a a a huge amount of

2923
02:00:58,238 --> 02:01:04,479
water from the uh upper side. There is

2924
02:01:01,679 --> 02:01:08,480
the water that contains and below there

2925
02:01:04,479 --> 02:01:11,118
there is the the river that uh uh the

2926
02:01:08,479 --> 02:01:13,519
water comes out from the reservoir that

2927
02:01:11,118 --> 02:01:16,158
is on top. Why the musul dam? The musul

2928
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:21,440
dam has a problem.

2929
02:01:16,158 --> 02:01:25,519
Uh it has been built on a a bed of

2930
02:01:21,439 --> 02:01:31,118
jesso. How you sayum? Japsum. Yes. And

2931
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:35,360
gypsum is uh um while is in contact of

2932
02:01:31,118 --> 02:01:37,920
water it melts. So the musul dam is

2933
02:01:35,359 --> 02:01:41,598
dangerous because it has a serious

2934
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:44,800
problem of stabilization.

2935
02:01:41,599 --> 02:01:47,360
In this case, uh there are a lot of

2936
02:01:44,800 --> 02:01:49,760
that's called satellites methods and

2937
02:01:47,359 --> 02:01:53,279
synthetic virtual rather methods that

2938
02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:56,000
are devoted to uh perform the so-called

2939
02:01:53,279 --> 02:01:59,198
infrastructure monitoring. And in this

2940
02:01:56,000 --> 02:02:02,479
case, the musul dam is crucial to be uh

2941
02:01:59,198 --> 02:02:08,158
observed by radar. In this case, I

2942
02:02:02,479 --> 02:02:11,839
wanted to see the the slide 37 please.

2943
02:02:08,158 --> 02:02:16,158
Erh here uh inside the dam look that

2944
02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:16,880
there is a tunnel the red line the

2945
02:02:16,158 --> 02:02:17,359
tunnel.

2946
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:21,920
>> Mhm.

2947
02:02:17,359 --> 02:02:25,198
>> And here we have uh we have um uh we

2948
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:28,399
have uh uh people that are working uh

2949
02:02:25,198 --> 02:02:31,039
inside the tunnel and the the task was

2950
02:02:28,399 --> 02:02:34,638
my technique is with my technique is

2951
02:02:31,039 --> 02:02:37,118
possible to detect the tunnel. We go in

2952
02:02:34,639 --> 02:02:40,639
slide 38.

2953
02:02:37,118 --> 02:02:42,158
Okay. And we see on the uh right top

2954
02:02:40,639 --> 02:02:44,800
there is the tunnel.

2955
02:02:42,158 --> 02:02:48,799
>> Just to explain you where you see red

2956
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:51,520
the vibration energy is high so is red.

2957
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:56,000
When you see blue the vibration has

2958
02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:58,880
energy is low. Okay is low and inside

2959
02:02:56,000 --> 02:03:01,439
the tunnel because you have the air you

2960
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:03,679
don't have vibration. So is low and so

2961
02:03:01,439 --> 02:03:05,839
you see the tunnel.

2962
02:03:03,679 --> 02:03:09,520
>> Okay.

2963
02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:13,199
And so we were also able to detect slide

2964
02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:15,679
39 also the principal facility that are

2965
02:03:13,198 --> 02:03:17,359
uh located inside the dam which are the

2966
02:03:15,679 --> 02:03:18,079
turbinas

2967
02:03:17,359 --> 02:03:19,359
>> the turbines

2968
02:03:18,079 --> 02:03:20,000
>> the turbines

2969
02:03:19,359 --> 02:03:22,880
>> right

2970
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:26,800
>> and uh and other stuff and all the

2971
02:03:22,880 --> 02:03:29,359
mechanical the mechanical uh um

2972
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:31,279
machines. This is the all the mechanical

2973
02:03:29,359 --> 02:03:32,639
machines that are located inside.

2974
02:03:31,279 --> 02:03:34,800
>> All right. So it's showing the accurate

2975
02:03:32,639 --> 02:03:36,319
shape of the turbines as well. So this

2976
02:03:34,800 --> 02:03:36,800
is just more proof that this technique

2977
02:03:36,319 --> 02:03:41,198
works.

2978
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:43,199
>> Yes. And so we go uh slide 31.

2979
02:03:41,198 --> 02:03:47,118
On slide 31. Okay. Here this is the

2980
02:03:43,198 --> 02:03:49,839
grandaso. Uh how nice is this? Uh is for

2981
02:03:47,118 --> 02:03:51,359
me very nice because I I born here.

2982
02:03:49,840 --> 02:03:54,239
>> This is the particle collider.

2983
02:03:51,359 --> 02:03:56,479
>> Yeah. Inside the the mountain in the

2984
02:03:54,238 --> 02:04:01,279
core of the mountain there is the the

2985
02:03:56,479 --> 02:04:05,678
laboratory here. And uh and the the the

2986
02:04:01,279 --> 02:04:09,679
task was can I uh detect the facility

2987
02:04:05,679 --> 02:04:14,639
that this inside the mountain. And so uh

2988
02:04:09,679 --> 02:04:16,719
we we are now uh in the slide 32

2989
02:04:14,639 --> 02:04:21,359
and 33.

2990
02:04:16,719 --> 02:04:24,480
Okay. And we can see okay the facility

2991
02:04:21,359 --> 02:04:26,719
that is ENFN is the institute of

2992
02:04:24,479 --> 02:04:29,039
nationality the physical nuclear

2993
02:04:26,719 --> 02:04:32,158
>> m you see the shape of it in there

2994
02:04:29,039 --> 02:04:34,319
>> yeah national institute uh of of nuclear

2995
02:04:32,158 --> 02:04:36,079
physics the Italian national institute

2996
02:04:34,319 --> 02:04:37,519
of nuclear physics

2997
02:04:36,079 --> 02:04:38,479
>> and that's more than a kilometer deep

2998
02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:44,560
into the mountain

2999
02:04:38,479 --> 02:04:47,198
>> 1.4 four and uh yes and slide 30 35 we

3000
02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:48,000
we can see we can see the the the

3001
02:04:47,198 --> 02:04:48,638
laboratory.

3002
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:50,238
>> Wow.

3003
02:04:48,639 --> 02:04:52,400
>> Yeah, this is the laboratory.

3004
02:04:50,238 --> 02:04:54,879
>> That's crazy.

3005
02:04:52,399 --> 02:04:56,879
That's crazy.

3006
02:04:54,880 --> 02:04:59,520
So using your techniques you get an

3007
02:04:56,880 --> 02:05:01,118
accurate depiction of the dimensions of

3008
02:04:59,520 --> 02:05:01,599
this laboratory.

3009
02:05:01,118 --> 02:05:02,238
>> Yeah.

3010
02:05:01,599 --> 02:05:05,119
>> Wow.

3011
02:05:02,238 --> 02:05:07,359
>> And that's that uh that triangle is

3012
02:05:05,118 --> 02:05:10,960
called the interferometer.

3013
02:05:07,359 --> 02:05:14,799
So when you have two lasers that uh and

3014
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:16,719
goes together and they they and it uh

3015
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:18,880
you can study the the pattern the

3016
02:05:16,719 --> 02:05:22,239
interference pattern that coherent

3017
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:23,760
signals are generating you can use an

3018
02:05:22,238 --> 02:05:25,439
interpherometer and that's the

3019
02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:28,440
interferometer.

3020
02:05:25,439 --> 02:05:28,439
Wow.

3021
02:05:28,800 --> 02:05:32,960
This is all amazing stuff. It's amazing

3022
02:05:31,198 --> 02:05:35,279
and I I I feel like we're at the

3023
02:05:32,960 --> 02:05:37,198
beginning of a very fascinating journey.

3024
02:05:35,279 --> 02:05:39,759
Yeah. You know, and I think that your

3025
02:05:37,198 --> 02:05:42,479
work and this research and all the

3026
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:43,599
controversy is good. All the controversy

3027
02:05:42,479 --> 02:05:44,799
around it is just going to make more

3028
02:05:43,599 --> 02:05:46,960
people talk about it, more people

3029
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:48,639
discuss it, and more people understand.

3030
02:05:46,960 --> 02:05:50,239
And it just seems to me that the more

3031
02:05:48,639 --> 02:05:53,118
they research it, the more the mystery

3032
02:05:50,238 --> 02:05:54,879
opens up, and that it is without a doubt

3033
02:05:53,118 --> 02:05:56,399
one of the most astounding discoveries

3034
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:58,319
in human history.

3035
02:05:56,399 --> 02:06:00,319
>> Yes.

3036
02:05:58,319 --> 02:06:02,319
>> Thank you, Joel. Congratulations on

3037
02:06:00,319 --> 02:06:04,880
discovering it and thank you so much for

3038
02:06:02,319 --> 02:06:06,719
all your hard work because I mean uh

3039
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:09,279
like I said is to me one of the most

3040
02:06:06,719 --> 02:06:11,679
fascinating subjects and you know what

3041
02:06:09,279 --> 02:06:13,439
Graham always speaks of is that we are a

3042
02:06:11,679 --> 02:06:13,920
species with amnesia.

3043
02:06:13,439 --> 02:06:14,559
>> Yes.

3044
02:06:13,920 --> 02:06:16,639
>> And

3045
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:18,320
>> and I agree with this with that

3046
02:06:16,639 --> 02:06:19,920
>> and you know it's one of the reasons why

3047
02:06:18,319 --> 02:06:22,479
so many people are mad at him is because

3048
02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:25,599
he was right. He was right in the 1990s,

3049
02:06:22,479 --> 02:06:28,399
you know, and and as time goes on, he is

3050
02:06:25,599 --> 02:06:30,078
being proven more and more to be correct

3051
02:06:28,399 --> 02:06:30,719
and things just seem to keep getting

3052
02:06:30,078 --> 02:06:31,599
older.

3053
02:06:30,719 --> 02:06:33,520
>> Yes,

3054
02:06:31,599 --> 02:06:35,039
>> it's amazing. Thank you so much for

3055
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:36,880
being here. I really, really appreciate

3056
02:06:35,039 --> 02:06:38,000
your time and I appreciate your work and

3057
02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:39,840
>> thank you for inviting me.

3058
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:40,639
>> My pleasure. Let's do it again when more

3059
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:42,078
stuff comes out.

3060
02:06:40,639 --> 02:06:43,920
>> Okay, I'm here.

3061
02:06:42,078 --> 02:06:46,238
>> If anybody wants to find more about

3062
02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:47,760
this, where would you uh send them to?

3063
02:06:46,238 --> 02:06:49,118
Is there a website that would give them

3064
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:53,440
more information if they want to do a

3065
02:06:49,118 --> 02:06:56,559
deep dive? Yes. Um I have a personal

3066
02:06:53,439 --> 02:06:57,118
website which is harmonicsar.com and I

3067
02:06:56,560 --> 02:06:59,280
publish.

3068
02:06:57,118 --> 02:07:00,319
>> Say that again. Harmonics.com. Yes.

3069
02:06:59,279 --> 02:07:01,279
>> Harmonicar.

3070
02:07:00,319 --> 02:07:03,599
>> It's man. It's

3071
02:07:01,279 --> 02:07:05,920
>> synthetic aperture radar is sar. So

3072
02:07:03,599 --> 02:07:06,319
harmonicsar.com.

3073
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:07,599
>> Yes.

3074
02:07:06,319 --> 02:07:08,719
>> Filippo beond.

3075
02:07:07,599 --> 02:07:10,560
>> I mean

3076
02:07:08,719 --> 02:07:11,760
>> you're the man. Thank you, sir. Really

3077
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:15,480
appreciate you being Thank you. All

3078
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:15,480
right. [music] Bye everybody.

3079
02:07:18,698 --> 02:07:20,718
>> [music]