WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:06.719 King is not just me, it is 70% of the industry. 00:00:03.678 --> 00:00:09.119 Every name that is very big is there. 00:00:06.719 --> 00:00:11.279 If you are in this industry then make sure you 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:14.399 meet Shahrukh one day. What happens is that 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:16.000 after doing a film like Satya, my own 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:18.080 expectations 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:20.160 from people increase. So I should 00:00:18.079 --> 00:00:23.278 get more money. My salary should be higher. They 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:26.399 say young at heart, 00:00:23.278 --> 00:00:30.399 if you want to see that then look at Anil Kapoor. If I 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:34.159 see Shahrukh from a distance, I will feel that he is a 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:37.679 star because 15 people walk with him. 00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:40.640 So when I met Amrish ji for the first time, 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:43.280 I went to his van to have food. 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:46.719 So I kept looking at him and said, 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:49.840 Sir, you are such a big star. 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:52.800 Where are your rebels? What does rebel people mean 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:55.680 ? What will I do by employing 15 people when one person can do the work 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:57.919 ? Salman is a very reserved 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:59.759 person, so it is not that I have 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:02.480 talked much to Salman. 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:05.679 I have worked with Salman. I 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:08.319 hope and feel that he 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:11.200 likes me as an artist. I also 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:14.079 like a lot of his stuff. This 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:16.400 ego which exists is the ego of I. 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:19.519 This is not the artist's ego. If you 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:22.520 say something about his art, he will never 00:01:19.519 --> 00:01:22.519 say anything. 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:30.799 Saurabh Sir, first of all hello. 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:32.799 Hello. 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:34.479 Sir, tell me one thing. First of all I 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:37.118 want to know this. Do you 00:01:34.478 --> 00:01:39.840 like hearing praise from your fans or 00:01:37.118 --> 00:01:40.400 after that praise from the President, do you feel that it's enough 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:43.040 ? No. No. 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:44.079 Appreciation is something that never just happens. Yes. The more it continues, the 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:48.960 better. 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:51.199 That's good. It is fun to listen to. So 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:54.399 Sir, I would like to share a small memory with you 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:57.040 that when your song Kallu Mama 00:01:54.399 --> 00:01:58.879 comes and I am in school and 00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:00.560 suddenly people start talking in my neighborhood 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:02.640 that Kallu Mama Kallu Mama, we did 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:05.600 not know because we did 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:07.200 not have the freedom to go to the theatre, then after that the 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:09.519 movie is shown in our neighborhood through VCR 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:12.319 and as soon as that song plays, there is a lot of 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:14.480 commotion. Sir, believe me, that 00:02:12.318 --> 00:02:18.878 picture had changed the atmosphere of our entire locality. 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:21.280 So, there are many fans, Sir, I remember 00:02:18.878 --> 00:02:23.598 such things, the way the 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:27.439 craze for Kallu Mama suddenly came, I 00:02:23.598 --> 00:02:32.238 remember it, it is not like that, I remember it, is 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:35.199 n't it, but the thing is that life, the touch 00:02:32.239 --> 00:02:37.599 world is so beautiful that you do not miss it, it is not like 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:40.159 you miss it, oh friend, that was 00:02:37.598 --> 00:02:42.479 a time, today is a different time, 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:45.519 so I was happy in that time and I am 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:46.079 happy even today and pray that I remain happy like this, 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:50.000 sir, tell me one thing, the way 00:02:48.318 --> 00:02:52.479 I see your journey, the way 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:54.639 I see your roles, I 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:57.280 see each one better than the other. 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:59.598 You get the National Award for Jolly LLB. But believe me 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:02.400 sir, I feel there are many more 00:02:59.598 --> 00:03:05.759 powerful roles which deserved to be appreciated. 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:08.000 Sir, it seems that you had some other roles which could have 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:10.399 received the same respect. You can understand 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:12.318 that whatever happened with Jolly LLB, the same thing happened. 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:12.719 So since you said so, I got the respect anyway. 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:15.039 Haris. Isn't it 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:19.598 ? So it is not that I did 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:22.079 not get respect. Isn't it? Aa Aa Look, 00:03:19.598 --> 00:03:25.679 National Award is a big thing and I was very 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:30.560 happy to receive it and I will always cherish it, I will 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:34.879 cherish that for the rest 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:38.080 of my life, but the biggest award 00:03:34.878 --> 00:03:39.919 for you is the time when you are working, there is 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:43.599 no bigger award than that 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:47.679 when you are doing whatever work you are doing 00:03:43.598 --> 00:03:50.079 and that work immerses you completely in it. 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:53.680 So that 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:56.239 is a huge award in itself and then 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:58.560 I never felt whether I got the 00:03:56.239 --> 00:04:00.158 award or not. 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:02.560 I never thought about this because I 00:04:00.158 --> 00:04:05.519 always received love from people. I kept getting to know from people whether 00:04:02.560 --> 00:04:09.360 they liked my work or 00:04:05.519 --> 00:04:09.920 liked my films. So that's award itself, right? 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:14.639 Yes sir, I can understand sir. But there is one thing that 00:04:12.318 --> 00:04:17.039 if an artist gets appreciation in the way it is called an award, then 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:20.959 when such things happen then 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:23.680 definitely he gets a boost, 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:26.160 see, I would like to say one thing here that 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:31.199 getting an award does not mean much to an artist. 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:40.800 This is an added thing. There is a happiness. Isn't it 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:44.879 ? A. Art is 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:48.319 more a need for him than a desire for him. He 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:51.279 cannot do anything without her. Isn't it? It's it's a 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:56.159 necessity. 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:58.160 So you get a chance to do your work 00:04:56.160 --> 00:05:01.199 or to say your point or to 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:05.680 express your expression. 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:08.319 This is what you need. No, you don't 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:10.560 work for awards, no, no, well, let me 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:12.399 tell you one thing. I I went to 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:17.758 teach at FTI. I had gone to take a workshop 00:05:15.918 --> 00:05:20.639 and in this way I have taken workshops for actors at two-three places 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:22.879 and I 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:25.199 often asked this question. I said people 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:28.000 asked Sir 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:29.600 how to become a good actor or how to become an actor? 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:31.600 So I said brother, I also don't know 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:34.080 how to become an actor and how to become a good actor? 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:35.680 But I tell you only one thing 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:39.839 that 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:42.560 you should just ask yourself this question that brother, 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:45.599 why do I want to become an actor? Okay, right 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:47.038 ? Now when you try to find the answer to this question, 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:50.800 you will actually 00:05:47.038 --> 00:05:54.159 not get the answer. Isn't it? Well, his method 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:57.439 is simple. Imagine that you are a successful 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:59.280 actor. Isn't it? Five years from now, you are a 00:05:57.439 --> 00:06:02.319 successful actor. So what do you see 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:04.879 ? So you may feel 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:07.038 that brother, I must have a lot of money. 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:09.839 You may see that I have a lot of 00:06:07.038 --> 00:06:12.318 property or you may see that people 00:06:09.839 --> 00:06:14.638 are crazy. If he is a boy, he will appear as if the 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:17.759 girls are crazy. If there is a girl after him then he 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:20.800 thinks that all the men are crazy after her. 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:24.879 Foreign travel is visible. Traveling in first class 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:26.000 is visible. Isn't it? Do you see all this 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:28.000 ? 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:28.478 Yes. I think this is what most people would understand. 00:06:28.478 --> 00:06:33.439 Then there is no need to become an actor. There 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:34.639 is a lot to achieve. 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:39.439 If this is your dream, if you want to achieve this dream 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:41.758 , then it is not necessary that you become an actor. 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:43.600 Acting is also a way. 00:06:41.759 --> 00:06:46.000 But you can be an industrialist. It could be the 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:47.840 same thing. There may be politicians in it. The 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:51.038 same thing may be there in that too. 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:53.038 Do any other work, in any work you will reach a place 00:06:51.038 --> 00:06:55.120 where you will get all these things. 00:06:55.120 --> 00:07:01.439 The day you don't get a reply. You 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:04.639 and I say, Sir, I don't know what it is. 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:05.759 And I really don't care whether I get anything or not. 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:08.160 But this is what I have to do. 00:07:08.160 --> 00:07:12.880 This is my compulsion. 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:13.759 No that you are an actor. 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:15.598 There 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:16.400 you will understand that you are an actor. 00:07:15.598 --> 00:07:18.079 What is the matter, sir. 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:21.519 Because then you will 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:22.000 not go here and there. Will not wander. Isn't it 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:24.318 ? 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:24.800 Absolutely. Then whether we get something, whether we get success or not 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:25.598 , 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:28.478 we will. Whether 00:07:25.598 --> 00:07:30.478 someone praises you or not, whether someone praises you or not, it doesn't 00:07:28.478 --> 00:07:32.800 matter. I took up acting. There is a lot. 00:07:30.478 --> 00:07:35.120 I think Sir, you have said a very good thing 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:36.960 that what we see is that 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:38.959 boys and girls who come here struggle and get 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:40.879 troubled in the hustle and bustle of Mumbai. 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:43.038 We see their long 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:44.800 depression and hear all these things, if they 00:07:43.038 --> 00:07:45.519 understand these things then it will be better. 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:46.079 You. Yes. 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:50.800 I think so. 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:52.399 Sir, I want to take you back to your journey 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:55.680 and I want to know 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:58.878 Sir, how things started with Banded Quits, please 00:07:55.680 --> 00:08:02.560 tell me Sir, during that time you had 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:06.240 told me many things, when the film Chal was being shot, I 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:09.360 got some information that at that 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:11.360 time when Phoolan Devi was in jail, Dolly Aloo 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:12.000 Walia ji used to go to meet her, 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:19.519 yes Dolly because she was doing it, she 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:23.198 was in costume and she is very 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:26.079 senior to us and she must have gone. Shekhar must have gone. 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:31.598 Hey, we were just small actors. 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:35.598 You have suddenly placed me 00:08:31.598 --> 00:08:35.918 on the platform, it is like picking me up from the dust. Yes yes yes. 00:08:35.918 --> 00:08:41.120 And sir, the way the dacoits had come on the set 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:44.240 and the whole story that you had narrated, 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:46.159 sir, it was really amazing the way the 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:48.639 entire cast came out of it, you have got 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:49.039 one better than the other actors, 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:57.519 yes yes yes, I would say this for Bandit Queen that 00:08:52.720 --> 00:09:01.839 today you see many people, be it 00:08:57.519 --> 00:09:05.278 me or Manoj, Nirmal is 00:09:01.839 --> 00:09:08.399 no more but Nirmal had also come here, there is 00:09:05.278 --> 00:09:10.000 Aditya Srivastava, 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:12.639 I am talking about actors, apart from him there are 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:16.240 many other people. Tighanshu is forgetful. Isn't it 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:19.278 ? There are a lot of people. All of this has 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:22.399 come thanks to Bandit Queen. We all 00:09:19.278 --> 00:09:25.838 came here together and started together. 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:30.399 So today you see a lot of famous people. 00:09:25.839 --> 00:09:32.880 We All Came 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:34.159 to This City 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:36.720 Because of That Film. 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:39.439 You are absolutely right sir. Sir, like 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:42.720 I met Govind Namdev Sir, he was also yours 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:44.880 and I talked to him, so 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:46.480 I want to understand his journey, his initial journey, that 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:48.958 Sir, when an artist comes from Delhi 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:50.879 and the way he is welcomed in Mumbai, everything, then 00:09:48.958 --> 00:09:52.958 when 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:56.000 he told that his first film was 00:09:52.958 --> 00:09:58.879 with Subhash Ghai ji, Saudagar, and his entire role gets 00:09:56.000 --> 00:10:00.720 cut and he says a lot, he has 00:09:58.879 --> 00:10:03.039 told everyone, and the way he 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:05.519 goes into depression, that he even started 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:08.079 thinking of suicide, thoughts started coming to his mind, so Sir, was it 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:10.080 really such an environment and did you keep yourself 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:12.000 strong during that time, 00:10:10.080 --> 00:10:13.680 because if I 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:16.399 ask from the perspective of Govind Sir, then 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:18.159 see, I do not know that this happened with Namdev Bhai. 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:20.399 In fact as a matter of 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:22.240 fact, when you said this I suddenly realized it. 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:23.039 I know Namdev Bhai very well. 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:26.799 Yes, 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:28.800 he was my senior. 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:29.838 When I went to work in the Repertory Company, he was a 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:31.679 big name 00:10:29.839 --> 00:10:34.959 there. This happened 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:36.879 to him and I do 00:10:34.958 --> 00:10:39.759 n't know at all whether he 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:42.320 ever went into depression. Isn't it? But that's news for 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:45.759 me. If you ask me about myself, 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:51.278 I will say that no brother, I have 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:53.600 spent very carefree and fun days. A. This has never happened to me. 00:10:51.278 --> 00:10:56.639 And even if it had happened, perhaps 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:01.838 I was so foolish that I did 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.320 not understand that someone had done something to me. 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:07.160 Well, yes, so they 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:07.159 say, there is 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:17.439 a saying that ignorance 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:19.600 is bless, yes, ignorance is bless, yes, that 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:22.160 ignorance is bliss, I 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:23.839 think I am quite an ignorant person, if 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:26.159 anything negative is happening then I become 00:11:23.839 --> 00:11:28.000 very ignorant and I do 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:31.759 not remember it. So let me also tell you one thing about myself 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:34.639 that 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:36.879 it has often happened that if 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:38.799 you ever said something about me, 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:41.838 whether you said it to my face or behind my back, 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:43.919 whatever you said, later 00:11:41.839 --> 00:11:45.279 you may remember it and say that Sir, I was 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:47.599 not talking to you because I had 00:11:45.278 --> 00:11:49.278 said it about you. I don't remember. 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:49.600 I don't remember me. I forget. 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:54.800 Sir, an artist is such a person that if he is 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:55.039 touched even a little bit, he gets hurt very quickly. 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:58.078 We are 00:11:55.039 --> 00:12:00.319 not such artists. I am telling the truth, 00:11:58.078 --> 00:12:03.278 if someone starts feeling all this, then he is 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:05.760 not an artist, or the ego that 00:12:03.278 --> 00:12:08.000 I have, this is 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:10.319 not the ego of an artist, if you say something on his art, 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:13.360 he will never say anything. 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:15.278 Sir, you have told two things before to the coming generation who 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:17.039 want to come in this industry, 00:12:15.278 --> 00:12:19.200 tell me this second thing, Sir 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:22.240 brother, this is my experience, it is not for everyone, whoever understands it, understand it, whoever does not understand it, may not. 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.320 Yes 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:28.240 sir, things have become easier now than before. The 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:30.639 way your era was, the way you 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:32.079 came into the industry, what understanding do you have of the artists who are coming now, 00:12:30.639 --> 00:12:33.600 sir? 00:12:32.078 --> 00:12:34.479 I have told you two things. Let me 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:36.480 tell you the third thing. 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:39.519 Please sir, 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:42.639 things were never easy. 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:45.120 Whether it was your ancestors who were primitive humans and 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:47.440 lived in caves, it was not easy for them 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:49.919 and it is not easy for those who live in AC houses today. It is 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:54.560 equally difficult for everyone 00:12:49.919 --> 00:12:58.719 and equally easy for everyone. 00:12:54.559 --> 00:13:01.119 This is how you manage things. We are 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:02.879 amazing people, friend. Nowadays we 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:04.959 always keep talking about 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:07.120 how difficult the coming times are going to be. 00:13:04.958 --> 00:13:10.239 Look Sir, do you think life has become 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:13.278 so difficult? How did it become difficult? 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:16.879 Earlier we did not get food. He used to 00:13:13.278 --> 00:13:20.480 roam around with a stick. There was nothing to eat. Used to go out. The 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:22.159 lion used to attack. You don't have that strength. 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:26.879 You don't have the strength of an elephant to 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:29.600 fight. So was that difficult or is this difficult 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:31.679 ? Today you sit in the car and leave. 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:34.320 Yet you keep saying it. Humans have 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:37.679 some habits. He keeps making himself special. 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:39.920 Every human being. Hey, 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:41.599 by big difficulties I mean my 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:43.439 ancestors, who fought the most, brother, I think, 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:46.639 more than our ancestors 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:48.560 ? Who will speak about their problems? Even today, there is 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:50.480 a fever called injection 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:52.879 malaria. 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:54.879 Brother, no matter how many years, 100 years, 150 years it has been since the 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:57.519 vaccine for malaria was invented. 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:59.039 Yes, about malaria, no, yes about malaria. 00:13:57.519 --> 00:14:01.440 Before the medicine for malaria was discovered, 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:04.399 malaria used to kill you, yet today you keep 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:06.079 saying, oh friend, look, this social 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:07.679 media has come, life has become so difficult because of it, oh, has it become 00:14:06.078 --> 00:14:09.919 difficult, friend? Well, 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:13.599 things will keep happening, so those difficulties will keep on coming. 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:15.599 This sir is like this, 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:18.480 where does he come from, sir? Is he from a family, is he brought 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:20.480 up, or is this a struggle, this kind of 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:22.480 sir, please I would like to know, oh, how do 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:25.680 I know, where do I come from [laughs], 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:28.320 my thinking is like this, 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:32.399 I have been troubled for a long time, 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:35.440 because what is it, 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:38.320 Anupam Kher sahab had told me something, it was 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:40.800 amazing, he told me an anecdote about Bachchan sahab, and 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:44.320 Kher sahab said that 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:47.439 in his play too. Actually, Kher sahab was quite new, so when 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:50.240 he went for shooting, Bachchan sahab was 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:54.000 sitting, it was very hot outside, very sunny, 00:14:50.240 --> 00:14:56.720 he was sitting in the shade, so these words of Kher sahab were 00:14:54.000 --> 00:15:00.159 uttered, I went and sat next to him. 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:03.040 Sir, I saw Anupam Kher from NSD, 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:05.759 yes yes he became silent. He was 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:07.439 reading something. So Kher Sahab said that I became 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:10.879 very excited. I said I had to 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:15.920 talk about something. So 00:15:10.879 --> 00:15:19.039 Kher Saheb said, it is very hot sir. 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:23.439 So he said yes, it started growing again. He 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:26.879 said, Sir, don't you feel hot? So 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:27.920 Bachchan sahab looked at him and said, if I think about it, it seems so. If I don't think then it doesn't happen. It's just 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:40.799 that, friend. 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:43.838 Whatever you think, the greatest 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:48.000 power a human being has is thinking. 00:15:43.839 --> 00:15:51.839 So this is a well-known thing, friend. Is the world 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:54.240 bad or good? The 00:15:51.839 --> 00:15:58.000 world is the world. I don't know whether it is good 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:58.959 or bad. Whatever you think will happen. 00:15:58.958 --> 00:16:04.239 Sir, you mentioned social media and the 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:06.000 way you just said it is what you think it is. 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:08.320 The way we 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:09.759 see it today. Even the smallest thing is 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:11.920 made into such a big issue. 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:13.680 How much trouble it is, isn't it? There's a bigger problem than our ancestors 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:15.599 [laughter]. He did 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:17.919 not have social media. He was very happy. Was 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:19.680 very happy. Sir, I want to know 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:22.159 that the kind of roles you have played, the kind 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:25.120 of characters you have played, if you had 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:27.519 come in your present form, what would you have done, would you have done them in the same excellent 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:29.759 manner because from Kallu Mama to 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:32.399 the way that song is, if 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:33.440 this is done in today's time then we all will be 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:35.839 trolled in the same way. 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:38.639 Look, you have questioned the fact 00:16:35.839 --> 00:16:41.440 that the work you have done has been done. 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:44.000 What will happen today? I 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:45.519 speak correctly and simply. So man, I was still working then. I am still 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:47.919 working today. Even today I like 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:50.399 my work, 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:53.278 I have not changed anything in my work. It is 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:55.198 not like that the day Mark Jockerberg 00:16:53.278 --> 00:16:56.799 created Facebook, I said no, now 00:16:55.198 --> 00:16:58.958 I will change my acting style. This did 00:16:56.799 --> 00:17:01.599 not happen. I am the same man. That's what I'm doing. 00:16:58.958 --> 00:17:06.480 Look friend, what is good is 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:08.400 good. Isn't it? Think about it, brother, 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:10.400 things change with the changing times. 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:13.839 Hey brother, how will Shakespeare survive 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:16.400 then? Shakespeare is still alive today. 00:17:13.838 --> 00:17:19.279 He wrote it 500 years ago. How 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:22.640 is he alive till today? Is alive. Because brother, that work was 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:25.519 good. He relates to people. He will 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:27.520 always do it. He will continue. Do 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:29.119 you still read Mahabharata? We still 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:31.839 read Ramayana, right? What happened? Has social media 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:34.159 changed Ramayana? Did you change the Mahabharata? It has 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:35.839 n't changed, right? What can social media do, 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:38.080 friend? Ok. 00:17:35.839 --> 00:17:39.918 Sir, please 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:42.319 tell me from the perspective of the director of direction. On the basis of the way the audience has become 00:17:39.919 --> 00:17:45.440 sensitive, I 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:47.759 want to know that that liberty is no longer there. It seems that 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:49.600 people are now afraid of showing certain things 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:52.400 because if a film like PK is 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:56.959 made today, then the way 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:58.559 you are talking about it, brother, the 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:00.558 people who have come to object now, 00:17:58.558 --> 00:18:01.519 yes it is 00:18:00.558 --> 00:18:05.678 correct sir, 00:18:01.519 --> 00:18:08.079 yes they are objecting, brother, if you are 00:18:05.679 --> 00:18:10.559 objecting then I will not ask you, have 00:18:11.359 --> 00:18:17.759 you 00:18:13.679 --> 00:18:20.798 seen Iranian films? There are some 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:24.240 very beautiful films. There are very 00:18:20.798 --> 00:18:27.759 beautiful films. It is a very romantic 00:18:24.240 --> 00:18:33.000 film. And 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:33.000 showing romance between man and woman is banned there. 00:18:33.038 --> 00:18:42.160 You have a boy who loves another girl. 00:18:36.558 --> 00:18:46.000 As a man and a woman that is banned. 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:51.360 But it is not like that, when they were filming in 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:53.440 old Iran, there was no 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:57.038 restriction there. 00:18:53.440 --> 00:19:03.679 Ok. Then these bans were imposed. You should watch his films. 00:18:57.038 --> 00:19:06.160 You feel the same love, the same things. Isn't it 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:10.400 ? He changed the way of saying it. 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:12.559 He said okay. You banned it. 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:15.840 We will not show this. 00:19:12.558 --> 00:19:18.480 But there is no dearth of love and romance. 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:20.639 It reflects off of different things. 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:26.320 You Know. So what I mean to say is that it is okay, something can happen 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:28.480 at a certain time. Brother, it 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:33.279 may be that 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:35.440 someone has a particular society which is like this 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:39.119 in the whole world, at this time everyone has become a little 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:42.160 sensitive. The whites have 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:45.759 moved towards white supremacy. Isn't it 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:50.558 ? Tell them that no sir, 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:53.759 America is a country 00:19:50.558 --> 00:19:56.480 where everyone has come from outside. 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:59.200 Everyone is a 200 year old country from outside. 00:19:56.480 --> 00:20:00.960 Everyone has come from outside. They have started 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:02.000 saying there that 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:04.160 Red Indians were 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:08.000 Red Indians before that. Ok. No 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:11.759 problem. It is like that. 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:14.960 But a lot of these things are 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:17.519 politically driven. It happens due to the sentiment of that time. 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:20.400 It does 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:22.079 n't matter. You 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:27.200 can still say what you want to say and it is not necessary that you 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:29.678 fight for it. Not everything is about boys. Isn't it 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:31.600 ? Even if I'm misunderstanding you. 00:20:29.679 --> 00:20:33.679 Suppose I don't agree with you. 00:20:31.599 --> 00:20:36.079 So this does not mean that I should 00:20:33.679 --> 00:20:38.080 talk to you by abusing you or shouting at you. 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:40.240 I can also tell you, 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:44.000 look, 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:47.279 I think you're wrong. Maybe 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:49.038 I am wrong. This can also be said. 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:50.720 Okay sir, tell me one thing, 00:20:49.038 --> 00:20:54.240 I was watching one of your interviews where 00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:55.919 you said that there was a time when I used to do 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:57.440 films for a day just on people's insistence 00:20:55.919 --> 00:20:57.679 and I was not even getting paid. 00:20:57.679 --> 00:21:00.640 Correct. 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:02.639 So sir, what was the basis at that time? 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:05.280 Regarding not getting the money, Sir, how was it really, 00:21:05.279 --> 00:21:08.879 if you please tell me, 00:21:06.558 --> 00:21:12.399 I have already told about it in great detail 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:15.280 that there was a time when it had become true, so the 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:23.678 fault in it is not of the industry or of anyone. 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:26.319 I was also partly at fault in this. 00:21:23.679 --> 00:21:29.360 What happens is that after doing a film like Satya, 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:32.000 my own expectations 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:34.479 from people increase. I feel that 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:37.359 people have liked one of my works, 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:39.759 so I should get more money. 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:42.719 My salary should be higher. 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:43.519 Or I should get a longer length of the role. 00:21:43.519 --> 00:21:45.679 Correct. 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:47.440 Okay, right? But it is not necessary that the other person 00:21:45.679 --> 00:21:51.519 's perspective is the same. There was 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:53.840 a time when people used to say that 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:56.720 brother Saurabh, you are a very good actor but 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:57.839 roles were not being thought of for me, this happens 00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:04.480 in the life of all actors, it happened 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:07.359 with me too, at that time I did 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:09.919 not feel like working, I did not feel like doing those roles 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:12.158 and it is true 00:22:09.919 --> 00:22:14.400 that brother, for a day's money, for a day's 00:22:12.159 --> 00:22:16.880 role, that is, for a small role, you 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:19.759 cannot get that much money, so 00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:22.320 your mind was 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:23.759 not agreeing at all. So I started telling people 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:26.480 that brother, I am 00:22:23.759 --> 00:22:29.119 not an actor. I don't want to act. 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:30.480 I am a writer. I have written the truth. So 00:22:29.119 --> 00:22:32.239 I will do the writing. I will not act. 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:34.720 Just to avoid the fact that I am being forced to play 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:37.120 this role and people don't think 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:39.519 that he is a very arrogant man. 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:42.158 What do you think of yourself? I don't want to do it. I just 00:22:39.519 --> 00:22:44.158 said that. And there is no other reason because during this time 00:22:42.159 --> 00:22:46.240 Sir you worked with many big producers 00:22:44.159 --> 00:22:49.360 but the roles were not that entrepreneurial, 00:22:46.240 --> 00:22:52.240 then after that when the time changed, 00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:57.439 Barfi came and the 00:22:52.240 --> 00:23:00.159 same year in which I did Barfi, I did 00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:04.960 Jolly, the first one, after that my life completely 00:23:00.159 --> 00:23:09.280 changed, after that Raid came, then Jolly PK 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:12.480 came, then Jolly 2 came, then Jolly, then it 00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:14.960 became a forest, that would have happened, yes yes Sir, 00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:17.038 you praised Ranbir Kapoor a lot. 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:19.120 What was that conversation like, if you could tell me what was that 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:23.519 conversation like that which boosted your motivation, if it was 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:26.159 on a personal level that you develop a 00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:29.119 connection with someone. Isn't it? He is 00:23:26.159 --> 00:23:33.440 much younger than me. Isn't it? 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:36.879 But the thing is that 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:41.759 we both are of the same age in heart and mind. Isn't it 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:44.240 ? That's the dizziness. So it's very fun. It is 00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:46.240 not that I meet him every day 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:47.839 or we keep meeting all the time. 00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:49.519 He lives in his own world. 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:52.480 I live in my own world. But 00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:55.359 whenever we meet, we have a lot of fun. I 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:58.798 met him during Barfi 00:23:55.359 --> 00:24:01.038 and I really enjoyed talking to him and 00:24:01.038 --> 00:24:08.558 seeing his craft. He is a very good actor. I 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:10.960 think very well. So 00:24:08.558 --> 00:24:13.359 I enjoyed that a lot. As a matter of fact, 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:15.440 I have also recently done an 00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:18.319 ad film with him. 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:20.320 Yes. So we were together for two days. 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:23.359 We talked a lot. 00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:25.599 Sir, the hospitality of the Kapoor family is of a different 00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:26.719 level because I was 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:28.879 talking to Manoj Paav Sir. 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:31.759 So that same story that you made, the 00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:34.400 whiskey one, you guys went to Old Run. Same thing happened 00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:36.640 with him too, he told 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:38.320 that we were sitting with Ranveer. Okay okay, 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:42.720 yes, it is 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:45.200 not that I know everyone in the Kapoor family. 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:50.640 Yes, now I am talking about Ranbir only. 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:53.359 Yes, I have met Chintu ji. He was also a 00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:57.919 very funny man. Of course he was much 00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:59.519 senior to me and ah 00:24:57.919 --> 00:25:02.480 but 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:07.359 I always had a great relationship with Chintu ji, I mean he was a very very 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:09.599 handsome man, but 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:12.558 with Ranveer I met him completely independently, not like 00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:17.079 Rishi Kapoor son you know it was not like that ah 00:25:12.558 --> 00:25:17.079 and there was a 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:25.200 very friendly atmosphere 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:28.798 with Ranbir, so it is like that, so 00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:31.759 their hospitality is famous, 00:25:28.798 --> 00:25:36.639 they are 00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:38.960 very fond of food and drinks, everyone knows this, right, 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:42.480 but I am not that close to the family, right, yes, I have met 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:45.759 Ranbir as much as I have, 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:53.200 right sir, I want to know that 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:55.919 like I am talking about Kick, if I talk about Salman Khan ji's 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:58.640 hobby and you too, a six year old 00:25:55.919 --> 00:26:00.880 child, had a hobby of painting, we see you too were fond of painting, so has there ever been any mention 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:07.278 of painting 00:26:05.119 --> 00:26:12.479 between you two, 00:26:07.278 --> 00:26:16.720 ah no, ah I have worked with Salman, ah I 00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:19.919 hope so and this is my feeling 00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:20.798 that he likes me as an artist. Isn't it 00:26:20.798 --> 00:26:27.519 ? I also like a lot of his stuff. 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:30.000 I know he paints 00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:31.519 and does it with passion. I used to 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:32.159 paint in my childhood. Yes. 00:26:32.159 --> 00:26:34.320 That's why I want to know sir. 00:26:33.679 --> 00:26:36.080 Yes. 00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:37.759 But 00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.240 Salman comes reserved. 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:40.558 Good. 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:42.480 So it is not that I have 00:26:40.558 --> 00:26:46.079 talked much to Salman. 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:48.400 A: There is no such conversation. But we 00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:52.240 talked only as much as we met. I never 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:54.960 spoke to him and 00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:56.880 Salman still practices that art. 00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:58.640 I left it, so 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:01.760 after that I never did 00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:03.919 painting, I do it whenever I feel like it. 00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:07.119 But now I don't get those images 00:27:03.919 --> 00:27:09.440 which come to a painter's mind because 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:12.158 when you keep practicing an art, 00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:14.960 your mind starts working that way. 00:27:12.159 --> 00:27:17.200 You know it starts thinking that way. Isn't it 00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:20.960 ? So I never did that art. 00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:23.759 Ah but yes ah he is very passionate ah about 00:27:20.960 --> 00:27:26.480 his art. They even have art galleries 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:28.480 etc. I know this much. 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.120 No, I just wanted to understand that I have never 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:35.360 met him so many times that we ever 00:27:34.798 --> 00:27:38.798 spoke. 00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:39.759 Yes yes sir, as our conversation went on, the word 00:27:38.798 --> 00:27:40.400 King came up. 00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.798 Yes King 00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:45.600 ji, you are Shahrukh Khan in that too. Yes yes, what 00:27:42.798 --> 00:27:48.240 if I could just tell the fans 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:50.558 as much as I allow you, if I could tell them something about 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:53.200 what kind of expectations the fans should have 00:27:50.558 --> 00:27:55.759 because Suhana is also coming, it is a 00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:58.159 very important film for Shahrukh, so what would I say, 00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:59.919 if I could give a little hint because only this 00:27:58.159 --> 00:28:00.960 one reel will be cut, yes yes 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:05.880 you understood, that is why I said it openly 00:28:02.713 --> 00:28:05.879 [laughs] 00:28:05.919 --> 00:28:11.840 look friend, 00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:13.839 in King it is not only me but 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.798 70% of the industry. 00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:19.359 Or 00:28:14.798 --> 00:28:23.000 is it? Every name that is very big is there. 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:27.038 Shahrukh, 00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:30.000 I will say one thing to everyone. However, it will be 00:28:27.038 --> 00:28:32.558 difficult for Shahrukh. 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:35.440 If you are in this industry then make sure you 00:28:32.558 --> 00:28:38.480 meet Shahrukh one day. It's 00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:41.200 a very fun moment when 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:44.000 you talk to them. He is a 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:48.960 very amazing man. He is a very charismatic 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:50.480 man. Isn't it? So I would say 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.798 that 00:28:52.798 --> 00:29:02.158 whatever work I did in King, whenever I did it, it was a 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:04.959 very beautiful memorable moment 00:29:02.159 --> 00:29:08.960 for me. I can 00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:12.000 understand sir. Sir, please explain one thing to me, do 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:14.558 Anil Kapoor sir and you 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:16.398 both share some diet among yourselves 00:29:14.558 --> 00:29:18.240 ? 00:29:16.398 --> 00:29:19.519 You are asking because his and my 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.000 body are similar. 00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:24.960 No, both of you are reverse aging, 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:27.759 sir. Why do you mean sir, it's 00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:31.278 not this one, it's that one, he is very fit. What are you 00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:35.519 talking about my reverse aging brother? That is Anil Sir. 00:29:31.278 --> 00:29:39.558 He has discipline and not 00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:39.558 just discipline, they 00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:45.519 say he is young at heart, if you want to 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:48.079 see that then look at Anil Kapoor. 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:53.359 How long has Anil Kapoor been a star? As soon as you 00:29:51.278 --> 00:29:56.398 go closer and talk to them, you will understand immediately. 00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:59.359 He doesn't treat himself like a star. 00:29:56.398 --> 00:30:02.398 He treats himself so normally. It seems like it's 00:30:02.398 --> 00:30:07.439 a new comer who has just started. He 00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:10.000 treats himself like that. And that's why he stays young. 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:12.640 Oh, 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:14.960 even today that hunger is there in him. 00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.759 We looked amazing in Subedar. 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:16.720 Very good. 00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:18.960 Very good. Yes 00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:20.000 sir, his special fans can expect something from 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.919 him too. One 00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:23.919 can expect a lot, sir. One 00:30:21.919 --> 00:30:27.120 can expect a lot. You have seen the trailer. It's 00:30:23.919 --> 00:30:30.000 very good. 00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:32.479 Suresh Triveni is a wonderful director. Isn't it? The film has been 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:34.398 shot very well. I also did the right thing. 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:36.159 He did not do anything bad inside. So 00:30:34.398 --> 00:30:39.278 you can expect a lot. Yes yes yes 00:30:36.159 --> 00:30:41.919 sir. Sir, I would like to talk about the hero 00:30:39.278 --> 00:30:44.319 because in it Amrish Puri Sahab ji, I 00:30:41.919 --> 00:30:47.200 mean I did not have the good fortune of 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:49.439 meeting him. Sir, if you can explain to today's generation 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:51.600 because we hear many stories about him, if you can 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:55.678 tell about him as an artist 00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:57.439 because whatever kind of character he wants, I am 00:30:55.679 --> 00:30:59.360 not talking only about the villain. The kind of 00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:01.919 characters he used to play. Sir, if you could tell me about the kind of impression he 00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.798 left, then 00:31:02.798 --> 00:31:10.319 I met Amrish Puri sahab only 00:31:06.398 --> 00:31:14.719 in one or two films. Isn't it? He was a very 00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:18.480 big star at that time and 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:26.480 he remained a big star as long as he lived. 00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:29.519 What you hear about him is that brother, it is 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:32.159 not like that he 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:34.960 started his career at a very old age 00:31:32.159 --> 00:31:37.039 and reached that level of success. 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:39.360 If you look at his work, he was 00:31:37.038 --> 00:31:41.359 dominant in commercial films. But 00:31:39.359 --> 00:31:43.278 you see him in Govindlani's films. 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:46.398 You see him in Shyam Benigal's films. The 00:31:43.278 --> 00:31:50.398 range of that man was 00:31:46.398 --> 00:31:53.439 amazing. He was a very simple man. Isn't it 00:31:50.398 --> 00:31:57.038 ? He was a big star but a very 00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:57.038 simple man. I don't 00:32:02.558 --> 00:32:07.599 mean much to him, I didn't meet him enough to 00:32:04.558 --> 00:32:12.398 know anything about his craft. 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:15.278 But as a human being, whatever I got to know in one or two 00:32:12.398 --> 00:32:20.719 films, I understood a lot of it. 00:32:15.278 --> 00:32:20.720 Many things became clear. Do 00:32:23.679 --> 00:32:26.798 you want me to say something about this? 00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:28.879 No no sir, I just wanted to know 00:32:26.798 --> 00:32:31.759 that if you tell me something related to the hero 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:33.679 then just 00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:37.038 look at that, I will tell you in a very simple way. 00:32:33.679 --> 00:32:42.640 And it's not a comment on anything. A 00:32:37.038 --> 00:32:44.798 but as a young actor when you start a new job. 00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:46.480 Of course you want to be 00:32:44.798 --> 00:32:50.079 successful. You want to be a star. 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:52.159 Everybody Wants to Be a Star. Okay, right? 00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:56.158 But you don't understand 00:32:52.159 --> 00:32:59.278 how one becomes a star. Isn't it? You see the star from a distance. Let 00:32:56.159 --> 00:33:03.120 me just watch from a distance. If I 00:32:59.278 --> 00:33:06.798 see Shahrukh from a distance, I will feel that he is a star 00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:08.639 because 15 people walk with him. 00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:14.240 Two trains run. Three vehicles travel 00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:16.639 with them. Isn't it? A bus runs. So 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:18.880 you think this is what a star is. If you 00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:22.240 talk to a star, he is not the same person. Isn't it 00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:26.840 ? He is a very intelligent person. 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:26.839 Correct. 00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:38.000 So those were all confusions. So when I 00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:39.759 met Amrish ji for the first time, 00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:45.278 I went to his van to have food. 00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:50.080 Call me and sit. 00:33:45.278 --> 00:33:51.440 Yes, I saw that there was a man with him. 00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:53.119 OK was 00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:55.919 his makeup man. We used to 00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:58.558 make the same for them. 00:33:55.919 --> 00:33:58.880 He also helped him in serving tea and coffee. 00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:03.120 We 00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:05.359 probably did the driving too. Oh, so 00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:08.000 I kept looking at it like that. I said sir, you are 00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:10.000 such a big star. 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:15.599 Where are your rebels? What does 'kah rebel log' mean 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:19.800 ? 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.800 What will I do by employing 15 people when one person can do the work? 00:34:20.398 --> 00:34:28.398 I said this is also correct sir. So 00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:30.559 think from the point of view of each young actor who is 00:34:28.398 --> 00:34:32.398 building his image that no, no, the 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:34.878 day I will take 15 people with me, that day I will be a 00:34:32.398 --> 00:34:38.000 star. Does he really understand that there is a 00:34:34.878 --> 00:34:40.159 star standing in front of you, friend? 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:42.639 You can take one or 15. 00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:45.039 It doesn't matter. That is at your 00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:48.960 convenience. What do you want to do? 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:51.440 But that is not the mark of a star. The star 00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:54.240 is you. 00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:56.800 This is like I tell you about Hollywood. 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:57.679 Reeves is there, yes, yes, 00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:58.800 everyone, 00:34:57.679 --> 00:34:59.519 Reeves is such a big star. 00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.200 Yes, everything goes on as 00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:03.440 normal. 00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:03.838 Came to India by the way. 00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:05.679 Ok. 00:35:03.838 --> 00:35:07.519 Came to India. He is fond of playing guitar. The 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:11.358 program was going on. The main singer was someone else. 00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:14.239 Standing back, he slowly 00:35:11.358 --> 00:35:18.880 played the guitar. He plays the bass guitar. Played the bass guitar 00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:21.279 and left. Keiano Reeves There 00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:24.880 was no publicity Keiano Reeves is coming to 00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:30.400 India. No it was the singer he was in the 00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:32.320 band. He played it back and left. It is his hobby. But 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.920 I want to talk about this open book. 00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:38.159 What are you bringing for the audience this time sir 00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:40.400 ? There is something special because we have been 00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:42.480 watching you as an actor. I 00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.559 know you very well as a writer too. 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:47.358 What is it like with Saurabh Sir this time in direction? So if I were to 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:52.719 define the film Jab Khuli Kitaab for you, 00:35:47.358 --> 00:35:56.400 it is a family film and a 00:35:52.719 --> 00:36:00.639 film on the beauty of relationships. 00:35:56.400 --> 00:36:03.680 But it's not just a 00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:08.719 hunky dory or a rosy 00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:11.519 picture. This is a very real picture. 00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:13.919 The absurdity of life is also present in it. Isn't it 00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:17.679 ? There are a 00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:20.800 lot of smiles. There are a lot of 00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:24.480 tears too. It makes me 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:27.920 laugh and it also makes me sad. Isn't it? 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:31.920 So, a very heart-warming 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:34.960 film, which I 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:39.200 must say is very soft, very 00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:40.880 fragile, this is a film about emotions. 00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:43.519 A: 00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.680 I have written and produced the film, so 00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:47.519 obviously I like it very much. 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:49.759 But my good luck is that all the people who are 00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:53.199 doing interviews right now have 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:55.680 seen the film. And people have really, really said very 00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:58.159 beautiful things about it. It has 00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:01.759 great performances by Pankaj Kapoor, Dimple 00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:07.598 Kapadia, Apaar Shakti, Sameer 00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:11.839 Soni, Nauheed Hai Na Mansi, Sunil 00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:14.640 Palwal and many more many more. So Everybody 00:37:11.838 --> 00:37:17.759 Is Beautiful. It's a It's a It's a 00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:20.400 beautifully short film. It's shot in 00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:23.760 Ranikhet, right? 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:26.000 This film is set in the lap of the Himalayas. Visually 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:30.240 very beautiful film. Very beautiful 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:32.559 music composed by Rita Jaya and 00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:35.439 produced by Music Production, 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:39.838 its entire arrangement and everything has been done. The 00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:43.838 original score is done by 00:37:39.838 --> 00:37:46.078 Prati Jyoti Ghosh. A so everything is going for. 00:37:43.838 --> 00:37:48.799 Sir, please tell me, given the current 00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:51.519 times, as a writer, how did you 00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:54.240 feel that an open book will be able to reach the 00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:56.400 hearts of the audience through a message 00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:59.519 ? One, if we talk about its presentation, 00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:02.079 I think we are talking about the end results, 00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:04.559 how will it reach the hearts of the audience 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:06.960 or what is the current era like? I think at 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:10.719 least I don't do such things. 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:12.800 I don't carry the end result. You do 00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:14.159 n't make a film to give any message. 00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:18.799 Or 00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:24.800 you don't worry about how to reach the hearts of the audience. You are 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:26.959 compelled by an idea. It keeps coming to your mind again and again 00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:28.560 that this is good and that keeps 00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:30.480 growing on its own. 00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:33.838 Where did this seed come from? Sir, please 00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:36.559 tell me this again. This in between means that is the story you keep searching for. 00:38:33.838 --> 00:38:39.039 Thousands of stories and 00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:42.239 ideas keep coming to you every day. 50 00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:46.239 Ideas keep happening here and there, sometimes in real life, sometimes 00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:47.838 on paper, sometimes somewhere else. So, just like that, 00:38:47.838 --> 00:38:54.960 one idea gets stuck. It 00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:57.280 then starts developing on its own. Then 00:38:54.960 --> 00:39:00.320 gradually you start feeling that no 00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:02.240 friend, this is good and dramatic. Well, there 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:05.359 are a lot of possibilities in this. You start 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:06.959 feeling like this and then it comes back 00:39:05.358 --> 00:39:09.519 and then you start feeling that no friend, I should 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:12.320 write something on this. Isn't it? That idea 00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:15.440 itself forces you to do it. So 00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:19.519 this is the basic process and when you 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:21.679 start writing it, then you 00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:23.039 actually do not know what you want to say. 00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:25.759 You liked an idea. 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:26.880 You started. 00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:30.560 You started. Yes. 00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:32.160 And then while saying this to you, suddenly you understand 00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:34.159 that okay friend, I can 00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:37.440 say something on this also. I can say something on this matter also. While 00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:39.199 saying this, slowly its soul 00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:42.320 comes into your hands. 00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:45.118 And then in totality by the time you finish the 00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:46.880 film you approximately know what you are 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:49.920 trying to say. 00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:51.760 And then the audience receives it. And 00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:53.920 perspective also comes from them. 00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:56.560 How did he feel? 00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:58.960 Not only did you like or dislike it, but what did you feel about 00:39:56.559 --> 00:40:00.719 what you wanted to say and 00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:02.320 how people received it, 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:04.480 this is a complete process. 00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:06.559 Yes Sir, tell me, when 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:08.480 you were at the writing stage, was the casting coming to your mind at that time 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:12.078 or did it come to 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:16.400 your mind after the completion of writing, whether intentionally or unintentionally. Isn't it 00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:20.880 ? Which 00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:25.440 also becomes your wish list. It rarely happens 00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:27.920 that you get what is on your wish list 00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:31.039 because it is not necessary that the person who has come to your mind will 00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:38.719 like this story. This is not necessary. Isn't it? But I will say that 00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:42.640 it was a beautiful coincidence 00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:45.439 in this film that 00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:47.199 all the people I thought about are 00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:50.720 in the film today. 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:52.960 Oh Sir, when you left, I would like to talk about Pankaj Sir, he is 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:55.598 very selective. I mean, 00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:57.760 tell me with them, when 00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:59.920 you told them the story, what about them, if the 00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:02.079 audience would definitely like to know what kind of 00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:03.680 choice of roles they have. What kind of 00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:05.839 things live there. So as a director, when you 00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:07.838 went to him with your story, then actually only 00:41:05.838 --> 00:41:10.239 Pankaj ji can answer this question 00:41:07.838 --> 00:41:15.039 best. But I can tell you 00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:18.399 that Pankaj ji or any other actor at least I can say that this 00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:21.358 much actors have 00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:24.160 only one choice. This is 00:41:21.358 --> 00:41:28.239 a script through which they can identify 00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:31.199 whatever they want to do and whatever they like very much. 00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:33.838 Ok? Let me tell you about Pankaj ji. 00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:37.439 I did not have to tell the story to Pankaj ji. 00:41:33.838 --> 00:41:39.920 I went to meet him and 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:42.800 met him for the first time in my life. Although I 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:44.480 knew him long ago. Meaning, I 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:47.280 knew about him but we basically never met. 00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:49.280 As a matter of fact, 00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:52.720 I had never met Dimple Ma'am either. 00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:54.640 A I went to meet 00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.439 Pankaj ji at his place. Pankaj ji 00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:59.519 said that brother, I like to study. Do 00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.960 n't tell me a story. I will read it and then 00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:02.960 tell you. Okay, 00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:04.079 and 00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:07.199 you left the fourth day script? 00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:10.318 I had left the script of course. So on the 00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:11.919 fourth day he called and he said I am doing the picture. 00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:16.720 Ok. If this is all that happens then it means I will 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:18.318 not be able to tell you anything. What did they 00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:22.879 read, what did they feel? Isn't it 00:42:18.318 --> 00:42:25.679 ? That and the other thing about Dimple Ma'am was that 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:27.838 she was definitely on my mind. But I was 00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:30.399 keeping that idea away. Because 00:42:27.838 --> 00:42:33.279 Dimple ma'am is such a big 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:35.039 actress, such a big star. 00:42:33.280 --> 00:42:36.560 He did so much work in commercial films 00:42:35.039 --> 00:42:39.440 and not only in commercial films 00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:41.119 but he also did 00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:43.280 very good work in parallel cinema. Rudaali was one of his 00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:44.880 films which became very famous at one time. 00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:52.400 When this discussion was going on, one of Nolan's 00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:55.358 films, Christopher Nolan, had done 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:57.519 this. So I thought that it is fine, it is 00:42:55.358 --> 00:43:01.279 in my mind, so what, 00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:03.599 but why should I dream of something that will never be 00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:07.760 fulfilled and this was my mistake, this was 00:43:03.599 --> 00:43:11.519 my own inhibition, so Sameer Nair 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:15.440 and my partner Narendra 00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:19.199 told me that no, I must send the script, so I 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:21.519 sent the script and after 00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:25.199 sending the script, I sent it today, yesterday 00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:28.159 and the day before yesterday, that is, after three days I got a call. 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:31.358 I did not have Dimple ji's number. When I 00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:35.039 picked up the phone, I heard her beautiful, powerful voice. 00:43:31.358 --> 00:43:36.880 She said, Saurabh ji, I am Dimple 00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:39.519 Kabadiya speaking. I 00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:42.318 read your script. I am doing this film 00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:43.358 and no one else will do this role except me. 00:43:42.318 --> 00:43:45.519 Oh, 00:43:43.358 --> 00:43:46.639 I mean 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.440 we 00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:50.159 mean you, what more can a human being ask for. 00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:57.279 Same thing happened with Apaar also. Apaar was also 00:43:54.318 --> 00:43:59.759 in my mind. I used to think that 00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:02.640 if the character of Negi is an 00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:04.079 actor like Apaar, then I did not think of Apaar 00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:06.078 because of this, I thought of it 00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:09.200 because Apaar had started doing well. He was getting 00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:11.039 roles for them. Whatever it may be, 00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:13.679 Apaar's role is very important. 00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:15.599 Negi has a very good role in this. 00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:19.118 But the 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:21.838 story is about these two characters. 00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:23.838 Pankaj ji and Dimple. So I thought 00:44:21.838 --> 00:44:27.838 that when I tell this to Apaar, he might 00:44:23.838 --> 00:44:31.519 say that Saurabh ji, please 00:44:27.838 --> 00:44:34.480 give me a script in which the story is about me. That's what 00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:36.159 I thought. But I 00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:37.760 only told Apar the idea and his character 00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:40.559 and he stood up, shook hands 00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:43.920 and said sorry sir, I am in. 00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:46.159 So it was really a wonderful time and 00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:48.639 although I don't believe much in luck 00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:50.399 and stars etc. 00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:52.879 But I think my stars were 00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:57.200 aligned and I was lucky that everything happened the way it did. 00:44:52.880 --> 00:45:02.480 Right from applause, who 00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:07.598 believed in this film so much, 00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:09.760 my partner Narendra and Mahesh, everyone worked shoulder to shoulder 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:13.519 and they believed in the 00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:17.200 story and 00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:19.679 keeping the story as the main thing, everyone moved on. 00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:23.358 And it is really a beautiful experience 00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:25.838 Sir, I have also seen the film and the way 00:45:23.358 --> 00:45:28.639 you have woven the fabric of relationships 00:45:25.838 --> 00:45:30.400 from the beginning till the end, the way the 00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:32.239 complex things are 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:35.200 seen and the emotions that are expressed in it, 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:35.838 believe me Sir, it is amazing. Sir, please 00:45:35.838 --> 00:45:39.440 tell me one thing, I am completely surprised by you now. 00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:40.960 You have been 00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:43.039 interviewing me for so long. At least this much 00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.960 praise should be given in the beginning so that 00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.759 I too get some courage. 00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:48.720 [Laughter] 00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:51.280 No sir, it's really amazing. Sir, 00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:53.759 tell me one thing, was there a 00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:55.680 plan to release it in theatres for theatrical or were 00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:58.079 you planning for OTT from the beginning, as a 00:45:55.679 --> 00:46:00.480 filmmaker, if you ask about 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:02.400 any film, there is 00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:04.400 always a little attraction of a big screen. 00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:08.720 Every filmmaker wants his film to 00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:14.400 go to theatres. But understand one thing, 00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:16.959 going to the theatre is not the ultimate goal of 00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:19.838 the filmmaker. The 00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:22.800 goal of the filmmaker is to 00:46:19.838 --> 00:46:27.519 reach an audience that can relish it. 00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:32.000 Ok? The times we are 00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:36.400 going through are very good times. Isn't it? A. 00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:38.880 Look, theatre in itself has 00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:41.680 always been 00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:42.318 a tough business. 00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:48.159 Yes, it 00:46:42.318 --> 00:46:51.358 is absolutely true, it requires a lot of money. A 00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:51.679 lot of planning is required. 00:46:51.358 --> 00:46:54.318 Yes, 00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:56.480 and there is no guarantee whether people will 00:46:54.318 --> 00:46:58.480 come to the theatre to watch your film or not. He 00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.440 may even come. It is possible that he may not 00:46:58.480 --> 00:46:59.679 even come. 00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:02.480 Yes, right 00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:06.399 ? So when all these things happen then a little bit of 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:09.119 that remains, so it is a struggle 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:11.519 which is absolutely correct, it has always been there 00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:13.838 and the films have also been successful, yes, it is a 00:47:13.838 --> 00:47:21.679 very good time when another 00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.799 format has come to us which is OTT, 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:33.359 OTT is amazing that what 00:47:29.440 --> 00:47:37.679 should be said in it that the 00:47:33.358 --> 00:47:40.719 ethics of the film are intact. 00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:43.118 Cinematic language is used. It's not 00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:44.000 like television. Television has 00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:44.880 created its own unique format. 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:48.318 That is completely different. Isn't it 00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:51.920 ? That is completely different. So whatever cinema 00:47:48.318 --> 00:47:56.480 desires, it fulfils all those things. 00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:58.960 And it is a lot it takes your work to 00:47:56.480 --> 00:48:01.199 a much wider audience. So, like 00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:06.480 this film is releasing on Zee5, Zee5 has a 00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:10.000 huge audience base in Hindi and that 00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:12.960 audience is a home grown audience, so that is a 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:16.400 lot of people to whom you 00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:18.880 want to reach. Look, you should understand that 00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:23.200 it is easy that the film was 00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:25.039 released in Mumbai and Delhi. But it is not necessary 00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:27.118 that it will happen in Jabalpur or not. Isn't it 00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:28.160 ? 00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:31.598 Correct. 00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:34.960 Or will it happen in Tughlakabad or not? 00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:37.599 Even if it happens, I don't know if it will be shown in some 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:40.318 other small town, a very small town where there are two 00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:44.318 theatres, so I don't know whether it will be shown there or 00:48:40.318 --> 00:48:48.639 not. But the base of OTT is such that 00:48:44.318 --> 00:48:51.838 it reaches everywhere. So, you get to 00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:54.000 reach a bigger audience and which is I think what 00:48:51.838 --> 00:48:54.480 every filmmaker wants at the 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.559 end of it. 00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.800 Right, right. Definitely, sir. I just 00:48:56.559 --> 00:49:01.599 want to understand that the way money is spent 00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:04.318 and the way the entire source of income is 00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:06.240 in the industry, on that basis OTT has become so 00:49:04.318 --> 00:49:09.358 strong that if a maker 00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:11.519 makes films of his choice and 00:49:09.358 --> 00:49:11.920 earns a decent amount from it, if you can tell. 00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:19.358 Look, I am telling you about this, I am the wrong person because I do 00:49:19.358 --> 00:49:25.440 not understand the business of theatre, 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:27.039 how does theatrical business happen? Is there a ratio of 00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:29.119 100 crores, 200 crores in that, no no, 00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:31.119 that happens, of course, it happens only when the money 00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.880 comes, but what is its 00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:35.760 distribution, how do you 00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:40.079 expect it, how do you generate that, I am 00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:42.960 not a business person, I am a film business person, I am 00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:45.839 on the creative side and I can 00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:49.760 tell only what I know. Similarly, how does 00:49:45.838 --> 00:49:53.358 OTT work? I don't know but I know that they have been 00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:55.760 creating original work, when you say so, 00:49:53.358 --> 00:49:57.679 what happens is that 00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:59.599 brother, you make a film, release it in theatres 00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:02.078 and it is later shown on OTT, 00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:03.920 but at the same time, in every OTT, you will 00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:07.599 see that there is a direct to OTT which is called 00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:11.519 the original OTT original, so of 00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:14.000 course they must have some business model 00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:16.639 which is very successful, only then they give so much money 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:18.800 and not to one but to many people, they 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:23.199 make big films. Those people make all kinds of films. So I 00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:25.440 really don't know how it 00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:29.679 works. That for that I am sure that 00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:31.838 you should interview some OTT officials. Right right. 00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:34.399 Sir I just wanted to understand 00:50:31.838 --> 00:50:36.000 because one the way you are coming up with stories 00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:38.720 , the way you are doing things. 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:41.119 So everyone has the same desire to go to the theatre. 00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:43.199 You explained very well what mathematics is 00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:45.039 and how things work. It was on that basis that 00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:48.239 I asked you the question. Hum 00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:50.000 a Sir Anything Else Sir 00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:52.078 if you want to say something about this film because then I would like to 00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:54.318 move forward with you Sir 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:58.079 yes, I mean I would like to say this about this film 00:50:54.318 --> 00:50:58.480 that it is a very beautiful film, 00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:00.640 yes only if 00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:05.199 you watch the trailer you will understand 00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:07.280 how beautiful this world is. It has been 00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:10.879 shot at a very beautiful place. The songs are 00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:13.280 very good. You will listen to him. As per 00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:16.400 your request, I am telling this to the audience 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:20.319 that they have said, suppose 00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:22.400 complex cities and the world 00:51:20.318 --> 00:51:25.440 which is the entire fabric of this film is 00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:27.599 beautiful, we enjoyed it a lot, we had a 00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:30.079 great joy making this film and I want to 00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:30.800 share that joy 00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:33.519 with the audience 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.920 and believe me, you must not have seen such a web of relationships and the 00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:36.480 kind of emotions before, 00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:39.280 what a thing 00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:42.239 sir, some rapid fire and a few, let's do it 00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:45.200 quickly sir, a Jolly LLB, Akshay 00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:49.118 Kumar or Arshad Warsi, who is Lata, 00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:49.598 okay brother listen, I will give you the truth, 00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:55.359 absolutely sir, give it to me immediately, this 00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:56.800 war that you people are creating, I am 00:51:55.358 --> 00:51:59.838 not the only one responsible, 00:51:56.800 --> 00:52:03.359 yes no, in this war that you people are creating, you 00:51:59.838 --> 00:52:07.199 ask who is Arshad Warsi or 00:52:03.358 --> 00:52:11.440 Akshay Kumar, both are artists in art, 00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:14.078 friend, know one thing, and I have also 00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:17.679 heard someone saying this, then my belief has become 00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:20.800 completely firm in this thing, in art there 00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:22.639 is no better, best 00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:25.839 and worse, everybody 00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:28.879 is different, 00:52:25.838 --> 00:52:31.838 if you understand this, then what you say is 00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:34.079 yours Who is the best actor in Nazar? 00:52:31.838 --> 00:52:37.039 Hey, what does best actor mean, friend? An 00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:39.519 actor is an actor. One actor is different 00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:42.159 from the other actor. 00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:43.440 This or this? Hey brother, why are you putting a noose around my neck 00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:47.039 ? 00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:48.800 Ok sir let's move ahead. Theatre or movie. I have only 00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:50.480 one life, my friend. 00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:53.680 Yes. Embrace whatever you find. Do 00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:55.199 n't grab whatever you find. I will do whatever I want. If 00:52:55.199 --> 00:53:00.318 you want to embrace, then embrace. [laughs] 00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:02.639 Which artist did you see being the most prepared on set 00:53:00.318 --> 00:53:04.719 ? If I have to name one, 00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:07.598 you might have noticed that he used to 00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:10.639 come most prepared. 00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:12.880 Brother, if I had been watching all this then 00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:14.558 how would I have acted or done art myself 00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:16.640 because then I would have kept paying attention to these things 00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:18.480 that who has 00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:20.159 come prepared? Who didn't come prepared? Then 00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:21.440 I will do those things, right? Then I will not do any work. 00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:24.400 OK sir. Mumbai vs Delhi food. Where 00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:25.680 ? 00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:27.519 Mumbai vs Delhi food. 00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:29.598 Yes, your favorite. 00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:32.000 My favorite. We are from 00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:32.800 Mumbai for Vada Pav, Delhi for Chole Bhature. 00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:36.880 OK sir. Beer or whiskey? 00:53:35.760 --> 00:53:37.280 Beer or whiskey? 00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:39.358 Yes. Nothing. 00:53:39.358 --> 00:53:44.318 The saint is a man. Since 00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:47.519 when have you adopted this practice of Sir Sadhat? 00:53:44.318 --> 00:53:49.199 Always the old monk. 00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:51.599 OK sir. Thank you so much sir. 00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:52.000 Look at the picture again. 00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:54.559 Sure. 00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:55.599 Watch with the whole family. 00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:56.400 Show it to the producer also. 00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:59.359 Thank you so much. 00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:59.358 Ok.