[00:00] King is not just me, it is 70% of the industry. [00:03] Every name that is very big is there. [00:06] If you are in this industry then make sure you [00:09] meet Shahrukh one day. What happens is that [00:11] after doing a film like Satya, my own [00:14] expectations [00:16] from people increase. So I should [00:18] get more money. My salary should be higher. They [00:20] say young at heart, [00:23] if you want to see that then look at Anil Kapoor. If I [00:26] see Shahrukh from a distance, I will feel that he is a [00:30] star because 15 people walk with him. [00:34] So when I met Amrish ji for the first time, [00:37] I went to his van to have food. [00:40] So I kept looking at him and said, [00:43] Sir, you are such a big star. [00:46] Where are your rebels? What does rebel people mean [00:49] ? What will I do by employing 15 people when one person can do the work [00:52] ? Salman is a very reserved [00:55] person, so it is not that I have [00:57] talked much to Salman. [00:59] I have worked with Salman. I [01:02] hope and feel that he [01:05] likes me as an artist. I also [01:08] like a lot of his stuff. This [01:11] ego which exists is the ego of I. [01:14] This is not the artist's ego. If you [01:16] say something about his art, he will never [01:19] say anything. [01:27] Saurabh Sir, first of all hello. [01:29] Hello. [01:30] Sir, tell me one thing. First of all I [01:32] want to know this. Do you [01:34] like hearing praise from your fans or [01:37] after that praise from the President, do you feel that it's enough [01:39] ? No. No. [01:40] Appreciation is something that never just happens. Yes. The more it continues, the [01:44] better. [01:46] That's good. It is fun to listen to. So [01:48] Sir, I would like to share a small memory with you [01:51] that when your song Kallu Mama [01:54] comes and I am in school and [01:57] suddenly people start talking in my neighborhood [01:58] that Kallu Mama Kallu Mama, we did [02:00] not know because we did [02:02] not have the freedom to go to the theatre, then after that the [02:05] movie is shown in our neighborhood through VCR [02:07] and as soon as that song plays, there is a lot of [02:09] commotion. Sir, believe me, that [02:12] picture had changed the atmosphere of our entire locality. [02:14] So, there are many fans, Sir, I remember [02:18] such things, the way the [02:21] craze for Kallu Mama suddenly came, I [02:23] remember it, it is not like that, I remember it, is [02:27] n't it, but the thing is that life, the touch [02:32] world is so beautiful that you do not miss it, it is not like [02:35] you miss it, oh friend, that was [02:37] a time, today is a different time, [02:40] so I was happy in that time and I am [02:42] happy even today and pray that I remain happy like this, [02:46] sir, tell me one thing, the way [02:48] I see your journey, the way [02:50] I see your roles, I [02:52] see each one better than the other. [02:54] You get the National Award for Jolly LLB. But believe me [02:57] sir, I feel there are many more [02:59] powerful roles which deserved to be appreciated. [03:02] Sir, it seems that you had some other roles which could have [03:05] received the same respect. You can understand [03:08] that whatever happened with Jolly LLB, the same thing happened. [03:10] So since you said so, I got the respect anyway. [03:12] Haris. Isn't it [03:13] ? So it is not that I did [03:15] not get respect. Isn't it? Aa Aa Look, [03:19] National Award is a big thing and I was very [03:22] happy to receive it and I will always cherish it, I will [03:25] cherish that for the rest [03:30] of my life, but the biggest award [03:34] for you is the time when you are working, there is [03:38] no bigger award than that [03:39] when you are doing whatever work you are doing [03:43] and that work immerses you completely in it. [03:47] So that [03:50] is a huge award in itself and then [03:53] I never felt whether I got the [03:56] award or not. [03:58] I never thought about this because I [04:00] always received love from people. I kept getting to know from people whether [04:02] they liked my work or [04:05] liked my films. So that's award itself, right? [04:09] Yes sir, I can understand sir. But there is one thing that [04:12] if an artist gets appreciation in the way it is called an award, then [04:17] when such things happen then [04:18] definitely he gets a boost, [04:20] see, I would like to say one thing here that [04:26] getting an award does not mean much to an artist. [04:31] This is an added thing. There is a happiness. Isn't it [04:34] ? A. Art is [04:40] more a need for him than a desire for him. He [04:44] cannot do anything without her. Isn't it? It's it's a [04:51] necessity. [04:53] So you get a chance to do your work [04:56] or to say your point or to [04:58] express your expression. [05:01] This is what you need. No, you don't [05:05] work for awards, no, no, well, let me [05:08] tell you one thing. I I went to [05:12] teach at FTI. I had gone to take a workshop [05:15] and in this way I have taken workshops for actors at two-three places [05:17] and I [05:20] often asked this question. I said people [05:22] asked Sir [05:25] how to become a good actor or how to become an actor? [05:28] So I said brother, I also don't know [05:29] how to become an actor and how to become a good actor? [05:31] But I tell you only one thing [05:34] that [05:35] you should just ask yourself this question that brother, [05:39] why do I want to become an actor? Okay, right [05:42] ? Now when you try to find the answer to this question, [05:45] you will actually [05:47] not get the answer. Isn't it? Well, his method [05:50] is simple. Imagine that you are a successful [05:54] actor. Isn't it? Five years from now, you are a [05:57] successful actor. So what do you see [05:59] ? So you may feel [06:02] that brother, I must have a lot of money. [06:04] You may see that I have a lot of [06:07] property or you may see that people [06:09] are crazy. If he is a boy, he will appear as if the [06:12] girls are crazy. If there is a girl after him then he [06:14] thinks that all the men are crazy after her. [06:17] Foreign travel is visible. Traveling in first class [06:20] is visible. Isn't it? Do you see all this [06:24] ? [06:26] Yes. I think this is what most people would understand. [06:28] Then there is no need to become an actor. There [06:31] is a lot to achieve. [06:34] If this is your dream, if you want to achieve this dream [06:37] , then it is not necessary that you become an actor. [06:39] Acting is also a way. [06:41] But you can be an industrialist. It could be the [06:43] same thing. There may be politicians in it. The [06:46] same thing may be there in that too. [06:47] Do any other work, in any work you will reach a place [06:51] where you will get all these things. [06:55] The day you don't get a reply. You [06:58] and I say, Sir, I don't know what it is. [07:01] And I really don't care whether I get anything or not. [07:05] But this is what I have to do. [07:08] This is my compulsion. [07:10] No that you are an actor. [07:12] There [07:13] you will understand that you are an actor. [07:15] What is the matter, sir. [07:16] Because then you will [07:18] not go here and there. Will not wander. Isn't it [07:21] ? [07:22] Absolutely. Then whether we get something, whether we get success or not [07:24] , [07:24] we will. Whether [07:25] someone praises you or not, whether someone praises you or not, it doesn't [07:28] matter. I took up acting. There is a lot. [07:30] I think Sir, you have said a very good thing [07:32] that what we see is that [07:35] boys and girls who come here struggle and get [07:36] troubled in the hustle and bustle of Mumbai. [07:38] We see their long [07:40] depression and hear all these things, if they [07:43] understand these things then it will be better. [07:44] You. Yes. [07:46] I think so. [07:47] Sir, I want to take you back to your journey [07:50] and I want to know [07:52] Sir, how things started with Banded Quits, please [07:55] tell me Sir, during that time you had [07:58] told me many things, when the film Chal was being shot, I [08:02] got some information that at that [08:06] time when Phoolan Devi was in jail, Dolly Aloo [08:09] Walia ji used to go to meet her, [08:12] yes Dolly because she was doing it, she [08:15] was in costume and she is very [08:19] senior to us and she must have gone. Shekhar must have gone. [08:23] Hey, we were just small actors. [08:26] You have suddenly placed me [08:31] on the platform, it is like picking me up from the dust. Yes yes yes. [08:35] And sir, the way the dacoits had come on the set [08:38] and the whole story that you had narrated, [08:41] sir, it was really amazing the way the [08:44] entire cast came out of it, you have got [08:46] one better than the other actors, [08:49] yes yes yes, I would say this for Bandit Queen that [08:52] today you see many people, be it [08:57] me or Manoj, Nirmal is [09:01] no more but Nirmal had also come here, there is [09:05] Aditya Srivastava, [09:08] I am talking about actors, apart from him there are [09:10] many other people. Tighanshu is forgetful. Isn't it [09:12] ? There are a lot of people. All of this has [09:16] come thanks to Bandit Queen. We all [09:19] came here together and started together. [09:22] So today you see a lot of famous people. [09:25] We All Came [09:30] to This City [09:32] Because of That Film. [09:34] You are absolutely right sir. Sir, like [09:36] I met Govind Namdev Sir, he was also yours [09:39] and I talked to him, so [09:42] I want to understand his journey, his initial journey, that [09:44] Sir, when an artist comes from Delhi [09:46] and the way he is welcomed in Mumbai, everything, then [09:48] when [09:50] he told that his first film was [09:52] with Subhash Ghai ji, Saudagar, and his entire role gets [09:56] cut and he says a lot, he has [09:58] told everyone, and the way he [10:00] goes into depression, that he even started [10:03] thinking of suicide, thoughts started coming to his mind, so Sir, was it [10:05] really such an environment and did you keep yourself [10:08] strong during that time, [10:10] because if I [10:12] ask from the perspective of Govind Sir, then [10:13] see, I do not know that this happened with Namdev Bhai. [10:16] In fact as a matter of [10:18] fact, when you said this I suddenly realized it. [10:20] I know Namdev Bhai very well. [10:23] Yes, [10:23] he was my senior. [10:26] When I went to work in the Repertory Company, he was a [10:28] big name [10:29] there. This happened [10:31] to him and I do [10:34] n't know at all whether he [10:36] ever went into depression. Isn't it? But that's news for [10:39] me. If you ask me about myself, [10:42] I will say that no brother, I have [10:45] spent very carefree and fun days. A. This has never happened to me. [10:51] And even if it had happened, perhaps [10:56] I was so foolish that I did [11:00] not understand that someone had done something to me. [11:02] Well, yes, so they [11:03] say, there is [11:09] a saying that ignorance [11:13] is bless, yes, ignorance is bless, yes, that [11:17] ignorance is bliss, I [11:19] think I am quite an ignorant person, if [11:22] anything negative is happening then I become [11:23] very ignorant and I do [11:26] not remember it. So let me also tell you one thing about myself [11:28] that [11:31] it has often happened that if [11:34] you ever said something about me, [11:36] whether you said it to my face or behind my back, [11:38] whatever you said, later [11:41] you may remember it and say that Sir, I was [11:43] not talking to you because I had [11:45] said it about you. I don't remember. [11:47] I don't remember me. I forget. [11:49] Sir, an artist is such a person that if he is [11:53] touched even a little bit, he gets hurt very quickly. [11:54] We are [11:55] not such artists. I am telling the truth, [11:58] if someone starts feeling all this, then he is [12:00] not an artist, or the ego that [12:03] I have, this is [12:05] not the ego of an artist, if you say something on his art, [12:08] he will never say anything. [12:10] Sir, you have told two things before to the coming generation who [12:13] want to come in this industry, [12:15] tell me this second thing, Sir [12:17] brother, this is my experience, it is not for everyone, whoever understands it, understand it, whoever does not understand it, may not. [12:22] Yes [12:23] sir, things have become easier now than before. The [12:26] way your era was, the way you [12:28] came into the industry, what understanding do you have of the artists who are coming now, [12:30] sir? [12:32] I have told you two things. Let me [12:33] tell you the third thing. [12:34] Please sir, [12:36] things were never easy. [12:39] Whether it was your ancestors who were primitive humans and [12:42] lived in caves, it was not easy for them [12:45] and it is not easy for those who live in AC houses today. It is [12:47] equally difficult for everyone [12:49] and equally easy for everyone. [12:54] This is how you manage things. We are [12:58] amazing people, friend. Nowadays we [13:01] always keep talking about [13:02] how difficult the coming times are going to be. [13:04] Look Sir, do you think life has become [13:07] so difficult? How did it become difficult? [13:10] Earlier we did not get food. He used to [13:13] roam around with a stick. There was nothing to eat. Used to go out. The [13:16] lion used to attack. You don't have that strength. [13:20] You don't have the strength of an elephant to [13:22] fight. So was that difficult or is this difficult [13:26] ? Today you sit in the car and leave. [13:29] Yet you keep saying it. Humans have [13:31] some habits. He keeps making himself special. [13:34] Every human being. Hey, [13:37] by big difficulties I mean my [13:39] ancestors, who fought the most, brother, I think, [13:41] more than our ancestors [13:43] ? Who will speak about their problems? Even today, there is [13:46] a fever called injection [13:48] malaria. [13:50] Brother, no matter how many years, 100 years, 150 years it has been since the [13:52] vaccine for malaria was invented. [13:54] Yes, about malaria, no, yes about malaria. [13:57] Before the medicine for malaria was discovered, [13:59] malaria used to kill you, yet today you keep [14:01] saying, oh friend, look, this social [14:04] media has come, life has become so difficult because of it, oh, has it become [14:06] difficult, friend? Well, [14:07] things will keep happening, so those difficulties will keep on coming. [14:09] This sir is like this, [14:13] where does he come from, sir? Is he from a family, is he brought [14:15] up, or is this a struggle, this kind of [14:18] sir, please I would like to know, oh, how do [14:20] I know, where do I come from [laughs], [14:22] my thinking is like this, [14:25] I have been troubled for a long time, [14:28] because what is it, [14:32] Anupam Kher sahab had told me something, it was [14:35] amazing, he told me an anecdote about Bachchan sahab, and [14:38] Kher sahab said that [14:40] in his play too. Actually, Kher sahab was quite new, so when [14:44] he went for shooting, Bachchan sahab was [14:47] sitting, it was very hot outside, very sunny, [14:50] he was sitting in the shade, so these words of Kher sahab were [14:54] uttered, I went and sat next to him. [14:56] Sir, I saw Anupam Kher from NSD, [15:00] yes yes he became silent. He was [15:03] reading something. So Kher Sahab said that I became [15:05] very excited. I said I had to [15:07] talk about something. So [15:10] Kher Saheb said, it is very hot sir. [15:15] So he said yes, it started growing again. He [15:19] said, Sir, don't you feel hot? So [15:23] Bachchan sahab looked at him and said, if I think about it, it seems so. If I don't think then it doesn't happen. It's just [15:32] that, friend. [15:36] Whatever you think, the greatest [15:40] power a human being has is thinking. [15:43] So this is a well-known thing, friend. Is the world [15:48] bad or good? The [15:51] world is the world. I don't know whether it is good [15:54] or bad. Whatever you think will happen. [15:58] Sir, you mentioned social media and the [16:01] way you just said it is what you think it is. [16:04] The way we [16:06] see it today. Even the smallest thing is [16:08] made into such a big issue. [16:09] How much trouble it is, isn't it? There's a bigger problem than our ancestors [16:11] [laughter]. He did [16:13] not have social media. He was very happy. Was [16:15] very happy. Sir, I want to know [16:17] that the kind of roles you have played, the kind [16:19] of characters you have played, if you had [16:22] come in your present form, what would you have done, would you have done them in the same excellent [16:25] manner because from Kallu Mama to [16:27] the way that song is, if [16:29] this is done in today's time then we all will be [16:32] trolled in the same way. [16:33] Look, you have questioned the fact [16:35] that the work you have done has been done. [16:38] What will happen today? I [16:41] speak correctly and simply. So man, I was still working then. I am still [16:44] working today. Even today I like [16:45] my work, [16:47] I have not changed anything in my work. It is [16:50] not like that the day Mark Jockerberg [16:53] created Facebook, I said no, now [16:55] I will change my acting style. This did [16:56] not happen. I am the same man. That's what I'm doing. [16:58] Look friend, what is good is [17:01] good. Isn't it? Think about it, brother, [17:06] things change with the changing times. [17:08] Hey brother, how will Shakespeare survive [17:10] then? Shakespeare is still alive today. [17:13] He wrote it 500 years ago. How [17:16] is he alive till today? Is alive. Because brother, that work was [17:19] good. He relates to people. He will [17:22] always do it. He will continue. Do [17:25] you still read Mahabharata? We still [17:27] read Ramayana, right? What happened? Has social media [17:29] changed Ramayana? Did you change the Mahabharata? It has [17:31] n't changed, right? What can social media do, [17:34] friend? Ok. [17:35] Sir, please [17:38] tell me from the perspective of the director of direction. On the basis of the way the audience has become [17:39] sensitive, I [17:42] want to know that that liberty is no longer there. It seems that [17:45] people are now afraid of showing certain things [17:47] because if a film like PK is [17:49] made today, then the way [17:52] you are talking about it, brother, the [17:56] people who have come to object now, [17:58] yes it is [18:00] correct sir, [18:01] yes they are objecting, brother, if you are [18:05] objecting then I will not ask you, have [18:11] you [18:13] seen Iranian films? There are some [18:17] very beautiful films. There are very [18:20] beautiful films. It is a very romantic [18:24] film. And [18:27] showing romance between man and woman is banned there. [18:33] You have a boy who loves another girl. [18:36] As a man and a woman that is banned. [18:42] But it is not like that, when they were filming in [18:46] old Iran, there was no [18:51] restriction there. [18:53] Ok. Then these bans were imposed. You should watch his films. [18:57] You feel the same love, the same things. Isn't it [19:06] ? He changed the way of saying it. [19:08] He said okay. You banned it. [19:10] We will not show this. [19:12] But there is no dearth of love and romance. [19:15] It reflects off of different things. [19:20] You Know. So what I mean to say is that it is okay, something can happen [19:23] at a certain time. Brother, it [19:26] may be that [19:28] someone has a particular society which is like this [19:33] in the whole world, at this time everyone has become a little [19:35] sensitive. The whites have [19:39] moved towards white supremacy. Isn't it [19:42] ? Tell them that no sir, [19:45] America is a country [19:50] where everyone has come from outside. [19:53] Everyone is a 200 year old country from outside. [19:56] Everyone has come from outside. They have started [19:59] saying there that [20:00] Red Indians were [20:02] Red Indians before that. Ok. No [20:04] problem. It is like that. [20:08] But a lot of these things are [20:11] politically driven. It happens due to the sentiment of that time. [20:14] It does [20:17] n't matter. You [20:20] can still say what you want to say and it is not necessary that you [20:22] fight for it. Not everything is about boys. Isn't it [20:27] ? Even if I'm misunderstanding you. [20:29] Suppose I don't agree with you. [20:31] So this does not mean that I should [20:33] talk to you by abusing you or shouting at you. [20:36] I can also tell you, [20:38] look, [20:40] I think you're wrong. Maybe [20:44] I am wrong. This can also be said. [20:47] Okay sir, tell me one thing, [20:49] I was watching one of your interviews where [20:50] you said that there was a time when I used to do [20:54] films for a day just on people's insistence [20:55] and I was not even getting paid. [20:57] Correct. [20:58] So sir, what was the basis at that time? [21:00] Regarding not getting the money, Sir, how was it really, [21:05] if you please tell me, [21:06] I have already told about it in great detail [21:08] that there was a time when it had become true, so the [21:15] fault in it is not of the industry or of anyone. [21:20] I was also partly at fault in this. [21:23] What happens is that after doing a film like Satya, [21:26] my own expectations [21:29] from people increase. I feel that [21:32] people have liked one of my works, [21:34] so I should get more money. [21:37] My salary should be higher. [21:39] Or I should get a longer length of the role. [21:43] Correct. [21:44] Okay, right? But it is not necessary that the other person [21:45] 's perspective is the same. There was [21:47] a time when people used to say that [21:51] brother Saurabh, you are a very good actor but [21:53] roles were not being thought of for me, this happens [21:57] in the life of all actors, it happened [22:00] with me too, at that time I did [22:04] not feel like working, I did not feel like doing those roles [22:07] and it is true [22:09] that brother, for a day's money, for a day's [22:12] role, that is, for a small role, you [22:14] cannot get that much money, so [22:16] your mind was [22:19] not agreeing at all. So I started telling people [22:22] that brother, I am [22:23] not an actor. I don't want to act. [22:26] I am a writer. I have written the truth. So [22:29] I will do the writing. I will not act. [22:30] Just to avoid the fact that I am being forced to play [22:32] this role and people don't think [22:34] that he is a very arrogant man. [22:37] What do you think of yourself? I don't want to do it. I just [22:39] said that. And there is no other reason because during this time [22:42] Sir you worked with many big producers [22:44] but the roles were not that entrepreneurial, [22:46] then after that when the time changed, [22:49] Barfi came and the [22:52] same year in which I did Barfi, I did [22:57] Jolly, the first one, after that my life completely [23:00] changed, after that Raid came, then Jolly PK [23:04] came, then Jolly 2 came, then Jolly, then it [23:09] became a forest, that would have happened, yes yes Sir, [23:12] you praised Ranbir Kapoor a lot. [23:14] What was that conversation like, if you could tell me what was that [23:19] conversation like that which boosted your motivation, if it was [23:21] on a personal level that you develop a [23:23] connection with someone. Isn't it? He is [23:26] much younger than me. Isn't it? [23:29] But the thing is that [23:33] we both are of the same age in heart and mind. Isn't it [23:36] ? That's the dizziness. So it's very fun. It is [23:41] not that I meet him every day [23:44] or we keep meeting all the time. [23:46] He lives in his own world. [23:47] I live in my own world. But [23:49] whenever we meet, we have a lot of fun. I [23:52] met him during Barfi [23:55] and I really enjoyed talking to him and [24:01] seeing his craft. He is a very good actor. I [24:03] think very well. So [24:08] I enjoyed that a lot. As a matter of fact, [24:10] I have also recently done an [24:13] ad film with him. [24:15] Yes. So we were together for two days. [24:18] We talked a lot. [24:20] Sir, the hospitality of the Kapoor family is of a different [24:23] level because I was [24:25] talking to Manoj Paav Sir. [24:26] So that same story that you made, the [24:28] whiskey one, you guys went to Old Run. Same thing happened [24:31] with him too, he told [24:34] that we were sitting with Ranveer. Okay okay, [24:38] yes, it is [24:42] not that I know everyone in the Kapoor family. [24:45] Yes, now I am talking about Ranbir only. [24:47] Yes, I have met Chintu ji. He was also a [24:50] very funny man. Of course he was much [24:53] senior to me and ah [24:57] but [24:59] I always had a great relationship with Chintu ji, I mean he was a very very [25:02] handsome man, but [25:07] with Ranveer I met him completely independently, not like [25:09] Rishi Kapoor son you know it was not like that ah [25:12] and there was a [25:18] very friendly atmosphere [25:22] with Ranbir, so it is like that, so [25:25] their hospitality is famous, [25:28] they are [25:31] very fond of food and drinks, everyone knows this, right, [25:36] but I am not that close to the family, right, yes, I have met [25:42] Ranbir as much as I have, [25:45] right sir, I want to know that [25:48] like I am talking about Kick, if I talk about Salman Khan ji's [25:53] hobby and you too, a six year old [25:55] child, had a hobby of painting, we see you too were fond of painting, so has there ever been any mention [26:02] of painting [26:05] between you two, [26:07] ah no, ah I have worked with Salman, ah I [26:12] hope so and this is my feeling [26:16] that he likes me as an artist. Isn't it [26:20] ? I also like a lot of his stuff. [26:24] I know he paints [26:27] and does it with passion. I used to [26:30] paint in my childhood. Yes. [26:32] That's why I want to know sir. [26:33] Yes. [26:34] But [26:36] Salman comes reserved. [26:37] Good. [26:38] So it is not that I have [26:40] talked much to Salman. [26:42] A: There is no such conversation. But we [26:46] talked only as much as we met. I never [26:48] spoke to him and [26:52] Salman still practices that art. [26:54] I left it, so [26:56] after that I never did [26:58] painting, I do it whenever I feel like it. [27:01] But now I don't get those images [27:03] which come to a painter's mind because [27:07] when you keep practicing an art, [27:09] your mind starts working that way. [27:12] You know it starts thinking that way. Isn't it [27:14] ? So I never did that art. [27:17] Ah but yes ah he is very passionate ah about [27:20] his art. They even have art galleries [27:23] etc. I know this much. [27:26] No, I just wanted to understand that I have never [27:32] met him so many times that we ever [27:34] spoke. [27:35] Yes yes sir, as our conversation went on, the word [27:38] King came up. [27:39] Yes King [27:40] ji, you are Shahrukh Khan in that too. Yes yes, what [27:42] if I could just tell the fans [27:45] as much as I allow you, if I could tell them something about [27:48] what kind of expectations the fans should have [27:50] because Suhana is also coming, it is a [27:53] very important film for Shahrukh, so what would I say, [27:55] if I could give a little hint because only this [27:58] one reel will be cut, yes yes [28:00] you understood, that is why I said it openly [28:02] [laughs] [28:05] look friend, [28:09] in King it is not only me but [28:11] 70% of the industry. [28:13] Or [28:14] is it? Every name that is very big is there. [28:23] Shahrukh, [28:24] I will say one thing to everyone. However, it will be [28:27] difficult for Shahrukh. [28:30] If you are in this industry then make sure you [28:32] meet Shahrukh one day. It's [28:35] a very fun moment when [28:38] you talk to them. He is a [28:41] very amazing man. He is a very charismatic [28:44] man. Isn't it? So I would say [28:48] that [28:52] whatever work I did in King, whenever I did it, it was a [28:57] very beautiful memorable moment [29:02] for me. I can [29:04] understand sir. Sir, please explain one thing to me, do [29:08] Anil Kapoor sir and you [29:12] both share some diet among yourselves [29:14] ? [29:16] You are asking because his and my [29:18] body are similar. [29:19] No, both of you are reverse aging, [29:22] sir. Why do you mean sir, it's [29:24] not this one, it's that one, he is very fit. What are you [29:27] talking about my reverse aging brother? That is Anil Sir. [29:31] He has discipline and not [29:35] just discipline, they [29:39] say he is young at heart, if you want to [29:42] see that then look at Anil Kapoor. [29:48] How long has Anil Kapoor been a star? As soon as you [29:51] go closer and talk to them, you will understand immediately. [29:53] He doesn't treat himself like a star. [29:56] He treats himself so normally. It seems like it's [30:02] a new comer who has just started. He [30:05] treats himself like that. And that's why he stays young. [30:10] Oh, [30:10] even today that hunger is there in him. [30:12] We looked amazing in Subedar. [30:14] Very good. [30:15] Very good. Yes [30:16] sir, his special fans can expect something from [30:18] him too. One [30:20] can expect a lot, sir. One [30:21] can expect a lot. You have seen the trailer. It's [30:23] very good. [30:27] Suresh Triveni is a wonderful director. Isn't it? The film has been [30:30] shot very well. I also did the right thing. [30:32] He did not do anything bad inside. So [30:34] you can expect a lot. Yes yes yes [30:36] sir. Sir, I would like to talk about the hero [30:39] because in it Amrish Puri Sahab ji, I [30:41] mean I did not have the good fortune of [30:44] meeting him. Sir, if you can explain to today's generation [30:47] because we hear many stories about him, if you can [30:51] tell about him as an artist [30:53] because whatever kind of character he wants, I am [30:55] not talking only about the villain. The kind of [30:57] characters he used to play. Sir, if you could tell me about the kind of impression he [30:59] left, then [31:02] I met Amrish Puri sahab only [31:06] in one or two films. Isn't it? He was a very [31:10] big star at that time and [31:18] he remained a big star as long as he lived. [31:23] What you hear about him is that brother, it is [31:26] not like that he [31:29] started his career at a very old age [31:32] and reached that level of success. [31:34] If you look at his work, he was [31:37] dominant in commercial films. But [31:39] you see him in Govindlani's films. [31:41] You see him in Shyam Benigal's films. The [31:43] range of that man was [31:46] amazing. He was a very simple man. Isn't it [31:50] ? He was a big star but a very [31:53] simple man. I don't [32:02] mean much to him, I didn't meet him enough to [32:04] know anything about his craft. [32:07] But as a human being, whatever I got to know in one or two [32:12] films, I understood a lot of it. [32:15] Many things became clear. Do [32:23] you want me to say something about this? [32:25] No no sir, I just wanted to know [32:26] that if you tell me something related to the hero [32:28] then just [32:31] look at that, I will tell you in a very simple way. [32:33] And it's not a comment on anything. A [32:37] but as a young actor when you start a new job. [32:42] Of course you want to be [32:44] successful. You want to be a star. [32:46] Everybody Wants to Be a Star. Okay, right? [32:50] But you don't understand [32:52] how one becomes a star. Isn't it? You see the star from a distance. Let [32:56] me just watch from a distance. If I [32:59] see Shahrukh from a distance, I will feel that he is a star [33:03] because 15 people walk with him. [33:08] Two trains run. Three vehicles travel [33:10] with them. Isn't it? A bus runs. So [33:14] you think this is what a star is. If you [33:16] talk to a star, he is not the same person. Isn't it [33:18] ? He is a very intelligent person. [33:22] Correct. [33:29] So those were all confusions. So when I [33:34] met Amrish ji for the first time, [33:39] I went to his van to have food. [33:42] Call me and sit. [33:45] Yes, I saw that there was a man with him. [33:50] OK was [33:51] his makeup man. We used to [33:53] make the same for them. [33:55] He also helped him in serving tea and coffee. [33:58] We [33:59] probably did the driving too. Oh, so [34:03] I kept looking at it like that. I said sir, you are [34:05] such a big star. [34:10] Where are your rebels? What does 'kah rebel log' mean [34:12] ? [34:15] What will I do by employing 15 people when one person can do the work? [34:20] I said this is also correct sir. So [34:25] think from the point of view of each young actor who is [34:28] building his image that no, no, the [34:30] day I will take 15 people with me, that day I will be a [34:32] star. Does he really understand that there is a [34:34] star standing in front of you, friend? [34:38] You can take one or 15. [34:40] It doesn't matter. That is at your [34:42] convenience. What do you want to do? [34:45] But that is not the mark of a star. The star [34:48] is you. [34:51] This is like I tell you about Hollywood. [34:54] Reeves is there, yes, yes, [34:56] everyone, [34:57] Reeves is such a big star. [34:58] Yes, everything goes on as [34:59] normal. [35:01] Came to India by the way. [35:03] Ok. [35:03] Came to India. He is fond of playing guitar. The [35:07] program was going on. The main singer was someone else. [35:09] Standing back, he slowly [35:11] played the guitar. He plays the bass guitar. Played the bass guitar [35:14] and left. Keiano Reeves There [35:18] was no publicity Keiano Reeves is coming to [35:21] India. No it was the singer he was in the [35:24] band. He played it back and left. It is his hobby. But [35:30] I want to talk about this open book. [35:33] What are you bringing for the audience this time sir [35:36] ? There is something special because we have been [35:38] watching you as an actor. I [35:40] know you very well as a writer too. [35:42] What is it like with Saurabh Sir this time in direction? So if I were to [35:44] define the film Jab Khuli Kitaab for you, [35:47] it is a family film and a [35:52] film on the beauty of relationships. [35:56] But it's not just a [36:00] hunky dory or a rosy [36:03] picture. This is a very real picture. [36:08] The absurdity of life is also present in it. Isn't it [36:11] ? There are a [36:13] lot of smiles. There are a lot of [36:17] tears too. It makes me [36:20] laugh and it also makes me sad. Isn't it? [36:24] So, a very heart-warming [36:27] film, which I [36:31] must say is very soft, very [36:34] fragile, this is a film about emotions. [36:39] A: [36:40] I have written and produced the film, so [36:43] obviously I like it very much. [36:45] But my good luck is that all the people who are [36:47] doing interviews right now have [36:49] seen the film. And people have really, really said very [36:53] beautiful things about it. It has [36:55] great performances by Pankaj Kapoor, Dimple [36:58] Kapadia, Apaar Shakti, Sameer [37:01] Soni, Nauheed Hai Na Mansi, Sunil [37:07] Palwal and many more many more. So Everybody [37:11] Is Beautiful. It's a It's a It's a [37:14] beautifully short film. It's shot in [37:17] Ranikhet, right? [37:20] This film is set in the lap of the Himalayas. Visually [37:23] very beautiful film. Very beautiful [37:26] music composed by Rita Jaya and [37:30] produced by Music Production, [37:32] its entire arrangement and everything has been done. The [37:35] original score is done by [37:39] Prati Jyoti Ghosh. A so everything is going for. [37:43] Sir, please tell me, given the current [37:46] times, as a writer, how did you [37:48] feel that an open book will be able to reach the [37:51] hearts of the audience through a message [37:54] ? One, if we talk about its presentation, [37:56] I think we are talking about the end results, [37:59] how will it reach the hearts of the audience [38:02] or what is the current era like? I think at [38:04] least I don't do such things. [38:06] I don't carry the end result. You do [38:10] n't make a film to give any message. [38:14] Or [38:18] you don't worry about how to reach the hearts of the audience. You are [38:22] compelled by an idea. It keeps coming to your mind again and again [38:24] that this is good and that keeps [38:26] growing on its own. [38:28] Where did this seed come from? Sir, please [38:30] tell me this again. This in between means that is the story you keep searching for. [38:33] Thousands of stories and [38:36] ideas keep coming to you every day. 50 [38:39] Ideas keep happening here and there, sometimes in real life, sometimes [38:42] on paper, sometimes somewhere else. So, just like that, [38:47] one idea gets stuck. It [38:52] then starts developing on its own. Then [38:54] gradually you start feeling that no [38:57] friend, this is good and dramatic. Well, there [39:00] are a lot of possibilities in this. You start [39:02] feeling like this and then it comes back [39:05] and then you start feeling that no friend, I should [39:06] write something on this. Isn't it? That idea [39:09] itself forces you to do it. So [39:12] this is the basic process and when you [39:15] start writing it, then you [39:19] actually do not know what you want to say. [39:23] You liked an idea. [39:24] You started. [39:25] You started. Yes. [39:26] And then while saying this to you, suddenly you understand [39:30] that okay friend, I can [39:32] say something on this also. I can say something on this matter also. While [39:34] saying this, slowly its soul [39:37] comes into your hands. [39:39] And then in totality by the time you finish the [39:42] film you approximately know what you are [39:45] trying to say. [39:46] And then the audience receives it. And [39:49] perspective also comes from them. [39:51] How did he feel? [39:53] Not only did you like or dislike it, but what did you feel about [39:56] what you wanted to say and [39:58] how people received it, [40:00] this is a complete process. [40:02] Yes Sir, tell me, when [40:04] you were at the writing stage, was the casting coming to your mind at that time [40:06] or did it come to [40:08] your mind after the completion of writing, whether intentionally or unintentionally. Isn't it [40:12] ? Which [40:16] also becomes your wish list. It rarely happens [40:20] that you get what is on your wish list [40:25] because it is not necessary that the person who has come to your mind will [40:31] like this story. This is not necessary. Isn't it? But I will say that [40:34] it was a beautiful coincidence [40:38] in this film that [40:42] all the people I thought about are [40:45] in the film today. [40:47] Oh Sir, when you left, I would like to talk about Pankaj Sir, he is [40:50] very selective. I mean, [40:52] tell me with them, when [40:55] you told them the story, what about them, if the [40:57] audience would definitely like to know what kind of [40:59] choice of roles they have. What kind of [41:02] things live there. So as a director, when you [41:03] went to him with your story, then actually only [41:05] Pankaj ji can answer this question [41:07] best. But I can tell you [41:10] that Pankaj ji or any other actor at least I can say that this [41:15] much actors have [41:18] only one choice. This is [41:21] a script through which they can identify [41:24] whatever they want to do and whatever they like very much. [41:28] Ok? Let me tell you about Pankaj ji. [41:31] I did not have to tell the story to Pankaj ji. [41:33] I went to meet him and [41:37] met him for the first time in my life. Although I [41:39] knew him long ago. Meaning, I [41:42] knew about him but we basically never met. [41:44] As a matter of fact, [41:47] I had never met Dimple Ma'am either. [41:49] A I went to meet [41:52] Pankaj ji at his place. Pankaj ji [41:54] said that brother, I like to study. Do [41:57] n't tell me a story. I will read it and then [41:59] tell you. Okay, [42:00] and [42:02] you left the fourth day script? [42:04] I had left the script of course. So on the [42:07] fourth day he called and he said I am doing the picture. [42:11] Ok. If this is all that happens then it means I will [42:15] not be able to tell you anything. What did they [42:16] read, what did they feel? Isn't it [42:18] ? That and the other thing about Dimple Ma'am was that [42:22] she was definitely on my mind. But I was [42:25] keeping that idea away. Because [42:27] Dimple ma'am is such a big [42:30] actress, such a big star. [42:33] He did so much work in commercial films [42:35] and not only in commercial films [42:36] but he also did [42:39] very good work in parallel cinema. Rudaali was one of his [42:41] films which became very famous at one time. [42:44] When this discussion was going on, one of Nolan's [42:48] films, Christopher Nolan, had done [42:52] this. So I thought that it is fine, it is [42:55] in my mind, so what, [42:57] but why should I dream of something that will never be [43:01] fulfilled and this was my mistake, this was [43:03] my own inhibition, so Sameer Nair [43:07] and my partner Narendra [43:11] told me that no, I must send the script, so I [43:15] sent the script and after [43:19] sending the script, I sent it today, yesterday [43:21] and the day before yesterday, that is, after three days I got a call. [43:25] I did not have Dimple ji's number. When I [43:28] picked up the phone, I heard her beautiful, powerful voice. [43:31] She said, Saurabh ji, I am Dimple [43:35] Kabadiya speaking. I [43:36] read your script. I am doing this film [43:39] and no one else will do this role except me. [43:42] Oh, [43:43] I mean [43:45] we [43:46] mean you, what more can a human being ask for. [43:50] Same thing happened with Apaar also. Apaar was also [43:54] in my mind. I used to think that [43:57] if the character of Negi is an [43:59] actor like Apaar, then I did not think of Apaar [44:02] because of this, I thought of it [44:04] because Apaar had started doing well. He was getting [44:06] roles for them. Whatever it may be, [44:09] Apaar's role is very important. [44:11] Negi has a very good role in this. [44:13] But the [44:15] story is about these two characters. [44:19] Pankaj ji and Dimple. So I thought [44:21] that when I tell this to Apaar, he might [44:23] say that Saurabh ji, please [44:27] give me a script in which the story is about me. That's what [44:31] I thought. But I [44:34] only told Apar the idea and his character [44:36] and he stood up, shook hands [44:37] and said sorry sir, I am in. [44:40] So it was really a wonderful time and [44:43] although I don't believe much in luck [44:46] and stars etc. [44:48] But I think my stars were [44:50] aligned and I was lucky that everything happened the way it did. [44:52] Right from applause, who [44:57] believed in this film so much, [45:02] my partner Narendra and Mahesh, everyone worked shoulder to shoulder [45:07] and they believed in the [45:09] story and [45:13] keeping the story as the main thing, everyone moved on. [45:17] And it is really a beautiful experience [45:19] Sir, I have also seen the film and the way [45:23] you have woven the fabric of relationships [45:25] from the beginning till the end, the way the [45:28] complex things are [45:30] seen and the emotions that are expressed in it, [45:32] believe me Sir, it is amazing. Sir, please [45:35] tell me one thing, I am completely surprised by you now. [45:37] You have been [45:39] interviewing me for so long. At least this much [45:40] praise should be given in the beginning so that [45:43] I too get some courage. [45:44] [Laughter] [45:45] No sir, it's really amazing. Sir, [45:48] tell me one thing, was there a [45:51] plan to release it in theatres for theatrical or were [45:53] you planning for OTT from the beginning, as a [45:55] filmmaker, if you ask about [45:58] any film, there is [46:00] always a little attraction of a big screen. [46:02] Every filmmaker wants his film to [46:04] go to theatres. But understand one thing, [46:08] going to the theatre is not the ultimate goal of [46:14] the filmmaker. The [46:16] goal of the filmmaker is to [46:19] reach an audience that can relish it. [46:22] Ok? The times we are [46:27] going through are very good times. Isn't it? A. [46:32] Look, theatre in itself has [46:36] always been [46:38] a tough business. [46:41] Yes, it [46:42] is absolutely true, it requires a lot of money. A [46:48] lot of planning is required. [46:51] Yes, [46:51] and there is no guarantee whether people will [46:54] come to the theatre to watch your film or not. He [46:56] may even come. It is possible that he may not [46:58] even come. [46:59] Yes, right [46:59] ? So when all these things happen then a little bit of [47:02] that remains, so it is a struggle [47:06] which is absolutely correct, it has always been there [47:09] and the films have also been successful, yes, it is a [47:13] very good time when another [47:19] format has come to us which is OTT, [47:22] OTT is amazing that what [47:29] should be said in it that the [47:33] ethics of the film are intact. [47:37] Cinematic language is used. It's not [47:40] like television. Television has [47:43] created its own unique format. [47:44] That is completely different. Isn't it [47:44] ? That is completely different. So whatever cinema [47:48] desires, it fulfils all those things. [47:51] And it is a lot it takes your work to [47:56] a much wider audience. So, like [47:58] this film is releasing on Zee5, Zee5 has a [48:01] huge audience base in Hindi and that [48:06] audience is a home grown audience, so that is a [48:10] lot of people to whom you [48:12] want to reach. Look, you should understand that [48:16] it is easy that the film was [48:18] released in Mumbai and Delhi. But it is not necessary [48:23] that it will happen in Jabalpur or not. Isn't it [48:27] ? [48:27] Correct. [48:28] Or will it happen in Tughlakabad or not? [48:31] Even if it happens, I don't know if it will be shown in some [48:34] other small town, a very small town where there are two [48:37] theatres, so I don't know whether it will be shown there or [48:40] not. But the base of OTT is such that [48:44] it reaches everywhere. So, you get to [48:48] reach a bigger audience and which is I think what [48:51] every filmmaker wants at the [48:54] end of it. [48:54] Right, right. Definitely, sir. I just [48:56] want to understand that the way money is spent [48:58] and the way the entire source of income is [49:01] in the industry, on that basis OTT has become so [49:04] strong that if a maker [49:06] makes films of his choice and [49:09] earns a decent amount from it, if you can tell. [49:11] Look, I am telling you about this, I am the wrong person because I do [49:19] not understand the business of theatre, [49:22] how does theatrical business happen? Is there a ratio of [49:25] 100 crores, 200 crores in that, no no, [49:27] that happens, of course, it happens only when the money [49:29] comes, but what is its [49:31] distribution, how do you [49:32] expect it, how do you generate that, I am [49:35] not a business person, I am a film business person, I am [49:40] on the creative side and I can [49:42] tell only what I know. Similarly, how does [49:45] OTT work? I don't know but I know that they have been [49:49] creating original work, when you say so, [49:53] what happens is that [49:55] brother, you make a film, release it in theatres [49:57] and it is later shown on OTT, [49:59] but at the same time, in every OTT, you will [50:02] see that there is a direct to OTT which is called [50:03] the original OTT original, so of [50:07] course they must have some business model [50:11] which is very successful, only then they give so much money [50:14] and not to one but to many people, they [50:16] make big films. Those people make all kinds of films. So I [50:18] really don't know how it [50:23] works. That for that I am sure that [50:25] you should interview some OTT officials. Right right. [50:29] Sir I just wanted to understand [50:31] because one the way you are coming up with stories [50:34] , the way you are doing things. [50:36] So everyone has the same desire to go to the theatre. [50:38] You explained very well what mathematics is [50:41] and how things work. It was on that basis that [50:43] I asked you the question. Hum [50:45] a Sir Anything Else Sir [50:48] if you want to say something about this film because then I would like to [50:50] move forward with you Sir [50:52] yes, I mean I would like to say this about this film [50:54] that it is a very beautiful film, [50:58] yes only if [51:00] you watch the trailer you will understand [51:03] how beautiful this world is. It has been [51:05] shot at a very beautiful place. The songs are [51:07] very good. You will listen to him. As per [51:10] your request, I am telling this to the audience [51:13] that they have said, suppose [51:16] complex cities and the world [51:20] which is the entire fabric of this film is [51:22] beautiful, we enjoyed it a lot, we had a [51:25] great joy making this film and I want to [51:27] share that joy [51:30] with the audience [51:30] and believe me, you must not have seen such a web of relationships and the [51:33] kind of emotions before, [51:36] what a thing [51:37] sir, some rapid fire and a few, let's do it [51:39] quickly sir, a Jolly LLB, Akshay [51:42] Kumar or Arshad Warsi, who is Lata, [51:45] okay brother listen, I will give you the truth, [51:49] absolutely sir, give it to me immediately, this [51:51] war that you people are creating, I am [51:55] not the only one responsible, [51:56] yes no, in this war that you people are creating, you [51:59] ask who is Arshad Warsi or [52:03] Akshay Kumar, both are artists in art, [52:07] friend, know one thing, and I have also [52:11] heard someone saying this, then my belief has become [52:14] completely firm in this thing, in art there [52:17] is no better, best [52:20] and worse, everybody [52:22] is different, [52:25] if you understand this, then what you say is [52:28] yours Who is the best actor in Nazar? [52:31] Hey, what does best actor mean, friend? An [52:34] actor is an actor. One actor is different [52:37] from the other actor. [52:39] This or this? Hey brother, why are you putting a noose around my neck [52:42] ? [52:43] Ok sir let's move ahead. Theatre or movie. I have only [52:47] one life, my friend. [52:48] Yes. Embrace whatever you find. Do [52:50] n't grab whatever you find. I will do whatever I want. If [52:55] you want to embrace, then embrace. [laughs] [52:58] Which artist did you see being the most prepared on set [53:00] ? If I have to name one, [53:02] you might have noticed that he used to [53:04] come most prepared. [53:07] Brother, if I had been watching all this then [53:10] how would I have acted or done art myself [53:12] because then I would have kept paying attention to these things [53:14] that who has [53:16] come prepared? Who didn't come prepared? Then [53:18] I will do those things, right? Then I will not do any work. [53:21] OK sir. Mumbai vs Delhi food. Where [53:24] ? [53:24] Mumbai vs Delhi food. [53:25] Yes, your favorite. [53:27] My favorite. We are from [53:29] Mumbai for Vada Pav, Delhi for Chole Bhature. [53:32] OK sir. Beer or whiskey? [53:35] Beer or whiskey? [53:36] Yes. Nothing. [53:39] The saint is a man. Since [53:41] when have you adopted this practice of Sir Sadhat? [53:44] Always the old monk. [53:47] OK sir. Thank you so much sir. [53:49] Look at the picture again. [53:51] Sure. [53:52] Watch with the whole family. [53:54] Show it to the producer also. [53:55] Thank you so much. [53:56] Ok.