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Well, welcome to a new Harry's Garage

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video. And today's car, look at it. It's

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a Ferrari 360 Challenge Chadali. And I

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can remember when this car was released

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in 2003. There was much excitement at

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Evo Towers. And we had it in car of the

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year in about November 2003 in this for

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this issue. And that was out in Italy.

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And that was the first chance I had to

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drive this car. And I'm sorry to say

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that it was the last time I drove a

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challenge because the scooter came along

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and then the special. So it's been

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fantastic to revisit the challenge

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sedari from 2003. So much on this car to

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go through. They did a 348 competition

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but very low numbers around 50. But this

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car was at peak Ferrari Michael Schumaca

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era. They're winning F1 championships

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every year and I think it's a

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significant Ferrari. Let's go and have a

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closer look. Now looking back at the

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original first drive John Barker did on

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this car at Firano with the factory.

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Their ambition was the Charisalia was

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going to be at least 3 seconds quicker

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round Fano. It ended up being 3 and a

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half seconds quicker. And they did it

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mainly by reducing the weight of the

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car. Um, trick suspension on it as well,

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which I'll run through. Better brakes

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and a little bit more horsepower. And

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the first change you can see is just at

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the front. They had a slightly different

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sort of air down around here. And this

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is a lighter weight construction because

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you got to remember the the Ferrari 360

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arrived and this was aluminum car. They

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really took the weight down. But this

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car in ultimate spec was about 110 kilos

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lighter than your regular 360 F1. But

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you had to tick a lot of boxes to get

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there. But first thing you notice you

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come around the challenge wheels. One of

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the best designed wheels I think fitted

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on a Ferrari. So distinctive and hiding

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in there are the carbon discs from the

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Enzo that we've just seen. So the

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Ferrari Enzo brakes on a 360. We love

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that. titanium wheel nuts as well. These

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beautiful carbon mirrors you can see

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here. Unbelievable the construction on

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them and highly prized today. And then

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if I open the door,

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look at the door, the door trim. So pure

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carbon fiber, everything stripped out.

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And we'll have a look at more detail on

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the interior, but the things you want to

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notice is this metal. You can just see

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it shining over there. Just get rubber

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mats. They've basically chucked all the

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sound deadening out, all the carpet

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that's gone in the dust bin and they've

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added a sort of carbon different center

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console. You'll see there these

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beautiful carbonbacked seats. You can

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see well fully carbon t even the

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adjuster was in carbon as well. And then

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if I just lift the engine. Yeah, the

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engine cover.

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Lexium plastic there. Carbon finish.

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slightly different design at the back.

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And there it is. Now, the engine, they

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didn't add a massive amount of

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horsepower, an extra 20 horsepower, 420

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horsepower on here, but all carbon here.

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This is before sort of Cub uh Ferrari

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started charging extra for carbon. You

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got it within the price of the car. I

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think it was £26,000 more than a regular

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360. £133,000

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in 2003. works out at about4 of a

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million pounds in today's money and a

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much lighter um exhaust system on it. 7

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kilos um saved by this and my god it's

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loud and you can see the sort of valving

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on it that opens up for freeer revving.

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horsepower. They also got a slightly

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bigger airflow meter on it. And looking

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at the original test, they say basically

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it was blueprinted engine. So yeah,

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that's why there wasn't a massive lift

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in power. The other thing just to note

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is I'll just close this up.

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This challenge sedar, this black mesh

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here became a signature and people

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wanted it on their standard Ferrari 360s

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because it that was how you recognized

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it on the road. Down here though, you've

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got this extra venturi carbon fiber down

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here for extra arrow as well. But

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overall 360 is a beautifully well.

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Pinferina design obviously. Um I think

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it looks fantastic. And you got a proper

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boot up the front as well. So there you

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go. There's a quick run around the 360

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Channidali. Let's take it outside. Take

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it for a drive.

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Wow. Yeah. What a cabin this is when you

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get in. Um so stripped out and the metal

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and these welds you see everywhere and

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just these sort of rubber mats. You just

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see rivets sort of where the seat is

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sitting. It's like a sort of race seat.

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It is a road racer for the road. I'm

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quickly going to get the belts on. Some

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Chan dollies come with conventional

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belts. Some owners optioned a fourpoint

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harness as in this one, but um it is a

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Ferrari quite like it's got the Ferrari

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crest on there and things. And I'm going

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to fire the car up, turn the key,

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immobilizer,

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and then press start down here in this

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unique sort of center console. Take the

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handbrake off cuz it's an awkward thing.

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And I think the most recognizable thing

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when you get in is just in when you open

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the door and just see that door car the

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of carbon and it's light the door when

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you open it you know it's a road racer

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and I love distinctive sort of titanium

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finish and the door handle and although

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it's got electric windows they're here

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the switches are here and met by yellow

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taco there and this sort of heavy sort

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of suede

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non-reflective dashtop and then there's

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all sorts of colors and things being

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bespoke Ferrari. This one as you can see

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in red. The slightly peculiar thing was

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I was trying to work out this car has

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air conditioning cuz there's no air

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conditioning off. So when I initially

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got in I thought oh it can't have air

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conditioning but it was blowing cold air

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at me on a warmest day. And yes they

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came as standard with air conditioning

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which you wouldn't expect with all this

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lightness going on. They just said

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usability was important. And then behind

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me, another option on this car, it's got

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the roll cage in it. Um, which is an

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unusual fitment, but it's beautifully

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done. And it's got a radio. And that

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means you've got little tweeter sort of

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speakers under the dash and then a big

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couple of speakers in the middle there

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cuz you can't have any in the door

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because you got that carbon door card.

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So, there's no door speakers in this

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car. and Alcantara finished seats. And

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because they're fantastic. They're

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really usable.

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Down here, what else have I got? I've

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got mirrors start. I've got LC is a

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launch control, ASR off, race, which is

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sort of a sport button, but being a

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tanali is race. Um, door lock and

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hazards and reverse. So normally you had

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that the funny little tea bar in this

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age of Ferrari. But on the Stanis Sedali

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you get an R to press. What else? Yeah,

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just world championship. There they all

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are. 99 2000 2001 2002 2003 plaque on

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the dash. Right, let's crack on.

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The other interesting thing with this

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car, no auto button. It's manual. Well,

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it's it's automated manual from the

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start, but there's no auto setting,

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which is quite right, too. an old

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challenge to Darling. And you can

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probably hear the engine, which we'll

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discuss later when we head out onto some

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better roads.

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and a gear change speed is from a bygone

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age. This is sort of the first of the

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automated manuals. Although this was an

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iteration above it was a quicker change

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than the regular 360. But um it's

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something you notice when you get in.

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It's a quite a relaxed change.

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It's I think they're around 300

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milliseconds change, but if I press

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race, it does harvest speed. Goes down

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to 150. But I'll come on to that in a

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moment. But generally on the first time

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you get into it, you're expecting this

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really hardcore, this really noisy car,

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um, really stiff riding. And a number of

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those things are not present. And uh

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it's just odd that you know 20 years on

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the ride it's it's all right actually.

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It's perfectly livable with I don't feel

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like a GT3 RS 996 or something like

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that. It rides fine. I can't you know

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it's like a normal Yeah. 360. The spring

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rate is actually up 20% looking at the

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spec of it. And but the really neat

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thing is the springs in this are made of

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titanium. All part of the lightness

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trick.

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Then the other surprise is measured the

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sound on my noisy bit of road. 79

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dibels. Again, much lower than you

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expect with all the sound deadling gone.

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temperature, water temperature, oil

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pressure. And then in the taco, I've got

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the gear indicator. So in third, and

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then a speedo. There's no digital

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speedo. and a fuel gauge and a few

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instruments down there. This is the era

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Ferrari before the Manitina arrived on

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the F430. So, I have a clean wheel, but

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you know, airbagged. Okay. But the one

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thing you got to watch on this wheel is

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the horn push. It's just where your

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thumb rests. It's the same as on the

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Enzo. And yeah, it was one of those

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things every now and then. Oh, sorry. I

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didn't mean to blow the horn when you're

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on road test with this car. But anyway,

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let's just select a race. And I'm going

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to go into second down here and then

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hoof up the hill.

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Suddenly you have this car energized and

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uh yeah, gear chains get that much

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quicker. It actually changes the damper

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setting as well. um just stiffens those

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up and just loosens off the ASR, the

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traction control, but it's very drivable

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once it's in race. I'd almost say in

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today's world, you always press race and

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yeah, it makes it even more vocal on the

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outside. The weird thing about the

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exhaust sound on this car is again it's

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it's not intrusive inside the cabin. If

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you are standing outside or following

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this car, you think, "What the hell?

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How's that thing legal? It's properly

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loud on the outside, but weirdly quieter

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on the inside than you would think it

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should be. And visibility out terrific.

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I just love the view. I think after F40,

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was this the first Ferrari that really

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showed off its engine? What a statement

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360 was under that the great big pane of

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well perspects in this car. And you see

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the red crack on top of the cam covers.

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All beautifully laid out with the air

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cleaners either side. Both the engine

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and little water cooler and the alloy

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screw tops for water and oil and things.

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Dry sumped engine. So it dropped right

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down.

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Yeah. Performance on this car 4.2 2

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seconds to 60 cuz it's not a huge jump

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in horsepower over the regular 360, but

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they did drop the weight. I weighed this

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car and it went 1360 kilos, which will

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be slightly more just because of that

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roll cage. And actually having the radio

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and electric windows was quite a heavy

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add-on. They reckon around 30 kilos just

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because of those two.

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It might take a second round here.

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Oh yes. And a little bit of gravel as

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well. Yeah. It's all sorts of sounds

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just breaking into the air. You hear the

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scrub of the brakes. If I break now, you

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could It's like a rough pad onto the

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carbon discs. They were new technology

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back then. But again, I use this road

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because it's rubbish and it has a

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terrible surface and it's quite bumpy

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and it's dealing with them way better

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than you'd expect this car to. One thing

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it does do is a little bit of following

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the camber, but being, you know, track

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refugee, they're very stiff suspension

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joints on it. That's sort of with the

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territory. It's not too bad. It's not

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grabbing it from my hand, but it's Yeah,

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I have got a lot of information coming

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through on the wheel. Three turns lock

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to lock. The steering isn't it's sort of

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star turn, but compared to today's cars,

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it's it's bit terrific. Blips on the

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wheel gain as I'm in race. You can hear

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it just does the blip for you.

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That was all exciting stuff back in

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2003.

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as was that.

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And really, you've got to rev this car

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to get the most out of it. And it's

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actually quite short geared. Top speed

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on the 360

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was 186 mph cuz it runs out of revs.

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Yes, it's in that day and age where it

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will absolutely hit the red line in top.

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It's top speed. It's going to let the

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revs fall down in second. So, 35 mph,

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4,000 RPM.

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How does it cope with this compression?

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Okay.

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Love those blips. Now,

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there's those valves that open in the

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exhaust as soon as it gets to about 4

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and a half, five. Just depends on the

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throttle opening.

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Wow.

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Yeah. Very exciting.

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Right. Times was on likes and dislikes.

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I suppose the main dislike is just the

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speed of gear change. My goodness, we

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moved on. Time you got to 430 scooter

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air, that was changing gear in 60

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milliseconds. The fastest this can do is

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150 milliseconds, which is all right,

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but you really notice it if you don't

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have it in race. Two, they have got

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expensive recently. Um, I'll discuss

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that in a conclusion because there is a

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reason for it. And this car is actually

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for sale. My son has got it in Metav

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Cars. I saw it coming. I said, please

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can have a go in that. He also has a

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really trick Lancia just come in. Lancia

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hyenas. I'll be testing that as well.

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Anyway, I digress. What else? Um, yeah,

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noisy. It's It's properly noisy on the

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outside. Slightly embarrassing, so you

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have to be aware of it if you're driving

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it in builtup areas or where noise might

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be an issue. But the likes proper proper

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road racer. Um, it it I just love this

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stripped out. You can tell Ferrari's put

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a lot of effort into getting this car

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right. And it's fested with bespokeness

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everywhere I look. And I think it looks

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terrific on the outside and all the

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improvements, all the everything we want

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as a driver's car, they put on it. The

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the steering, I've seen criticism of the

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steering. This is on new fresh rubber

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boots. Uh Michelins, I don't find it an

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issue actually. I really quite like it

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and I quite love the performance and

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that oh gear change is fantastic as

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well. And

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bottom corner. There's quite a lot

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there. Goodbye to the front. Wow.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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Go.

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Lots of sounds in this car. Love the

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stripped out nature. how you can hear

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the brakes when you break it and the

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grab on the road. All that sort of thing

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just gives it that unique sense that

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you're in something very special.

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I'm just just changing gear for the fun

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of it.

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Wow. Yeah. So, what do I think of

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Transari? Well, it's been wonderful to

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revisit this car and get to know it

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again. I've always thought Scooter is

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ahead, but there's something pretty

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special with this talent sedan because

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it was the first of the breed. And I

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love how hard Ferrari worked on it to

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get it this good, this bespoke. You know

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you're in a chance. Special mention to

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the seats and the usability has come as

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a complete shock on this car. It's up

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against I think why it's got so

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expensive today is because the limited

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run Ferraris, you know, 288, F40, Enzo,

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etc. have just gone off into the

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stratosphere. What's the next super

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driver focused Ferrari limited run cars?

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Well, it's Channister Dari and then it's

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scooter rear and then it's special and

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things. That is why there's so much

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interest in these cars. I believe they

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were just about affordable a year ago

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and then everybody has clamored to get

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them. They're all actually scooter and

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chastis around the same price and then

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special is a leap up from this. And you

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got to remember China is the rarest of

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them all. I mean it's um 1,288

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of these and then there's near enough

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2,000. Scooter is 1,800 2,000

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speciali you have 3,000 odd and pista is

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4,000 odd. So that is why the values of

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Chinese are higher. And personally just

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driving it the the scooter here is

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quicker. It's 4 point, you know, 700cc,

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bigger engine, more torque, more

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asparag, nearly 100 horsepower more. But

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it's the bespokeness of this and the

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fact that I can drive it sort of flat

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out. I can get closer to its limits is

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what I really like. This scooter here is

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a properly quick car while this is sort

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of manageable. 4.2 to 60 is very

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manageable on today's roads. And yeah,

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it's a very special car. So there you

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go. I'm going to enjoy a bit more of

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this cracking bit of road. It suits

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actually suits this car really well.

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Whoa.

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Yeah. Been loaded. You can hear it rev

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out like that.

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So there you go. Whoa.

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Quickly take it around here.

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Yeah, it's quite loose that.

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There you go. Had to do that. Sorry if I

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